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ZakStunts - the Competition => Competition Archive => Competition 2004 => Topic started by: Argammon on February 17, 2004, 02:15:04 PM

Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: Argammon on February 17, 2004, 02:15:04 PM
1)Krys
2)Bonzai Joe
3)Akoss
4)Zak
5)Argammon
6)Alain
7)Mingva
8)CTG
9)Alanrotoi
10)JTK
11..........

We have not made this a poll because we would like to hear some reasons and not just a vote for one person.Other than that we respect any 'vote'.
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: zaqrack on February 17, 2004, 02:16:07 PM
I'm not in the position to vote in this question so lets just assume I voted for Neil McRae :)
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: Mingva on February 17, 2004, 02:45:54 PM
no no no, Neil is controlling one board, I don't want to see him as moderator here :lol: Besides, he don't like critics. I like current status of forum: every competition manager has his own sub-forum where he can moderate it.

Maybe Argammon could create a fair forum rules? Then, for breaking rules would be given warning. 3 warnings - ban for two weeks from forum and chat. Such situation is on major lithuanian sites with commentary abilities.
E.g., http://www.f-1.lt/.
Title: oi
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 17, 2004, 05:03:21 PM
1 Argammon: has experiences of moderating, quite neutral, has ideas, wants peace, and he is suited to do this
2 Krys Toff: relatively old, wise, had very few arguments, the most neutral man on the board I think, lack of experience pushes him into 2nd place only
3 JTK: relatively old, wise, had very fre arguments here, has experience, and maybe he learned from his mistakes
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9999999. Zak
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: Argammon on February 17, 2004, 05:19:39 PM
For those who are sceptical against a 'mod'

First of all Zak should still 'control' the mod.That does not mean that zak makes all the decision under the mods name but that he just looks that the mod does not get powermad and bans people for nothing.

And second of all [I know that expression does not exist :X] I hope that once a mod is here there is no need for 'modding' at all because the mere presence will make this a much more friendly place.
Title: Re: oi
Post by: zaqrack on February 17, 2004, 05:46:08 PM
Quote9999999. Zak

whoever the moderator is I still must be an admin, unless someone else hosts the site+forum on his server.
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: al il professore on February 17, 2004, 08:44:25 PM
why i cant be a mod on this board? Look: i am on it all day and night for two years, and if i become a mod, i will change into a super clean person :) after all, dont they say that the best thiefs make the best cops!

I think anyone can be a moderator here, we just need one person to do it... I dont understand why some of you consider that some persons would not do a good mod. Even Neil is available.
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: Argammon on February 17, 2004, 11:13:12 PM
I think Krys would be a good choice if he has the time.
He seems to be sensible and grown up.
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: CTG on February 17, 2004, 11:40:53 PM
I vote for Usrin The Slovak!  :)
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: al il professore on February 18, 2004, 08:42:42 AM
zak is a good proposal, as he did his job perfectly until now
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: Mingva on February 18, 2004, 08:54:45 AM
My vote:

1) Zak McKracken;
2) zaqrack;
3) ZakKrack.

:D
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: alanrotoi on February 18, 2004, 09:11:36 AM
If I am the moderator and I see this "poll" I would feel insulted. So go for Zak and let's race!
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: Arg on February 18, 2004, 10:37:12 AM
LoL sorry sorry sorry that is....... ok nothing :)

Just that I created this poll just after having talking with Zak so it was kinda made under Zaks name also.And I have nothing against Zak moderating the board.(If he wants to do that)

I think alanrotoi and co don't know what moderating means.Moderatin does not mean to own the board but to stop flamewars ;) And until now nothing like that has happened (no offense Zak ;)
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: al il professore on February 18, 2004, 12:22:22 PM
ok. period.

now we got: alain and mingva and alanrotoi and argammon plus bonzai joe speaking each other with lot of energy, still facing each other, but not fighting, that is the perfect board i dream of: tensions, discussions.

only now there is a lasting crisis with akoss and... you know who, that will end soon, when they realize it must go on with this tension, discussion mood, without taking it too hard. OK we can fight on this board, its allowed and healthy, just with this experience of... what is that, holyshit! just a crisis in an healthy relationship, we didnt go too far yet, we just are placing are pawns and never gave up the match.

Now, in solving this crisis, that can take one month more (when akoss will get a girlfriend and penetrate her by all holes) we will get stronger!

I mean, noone quit (time used for 'quit'=the perfect) the community yet, and this can still go on together a long time. Only, akoss must get more confidence on the track, and aim only to be on the podium, and not more, for now, because the competition level is stallin HIGH in 2004. And i truly think that aiming the podium is for now my humble goal too...
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: alanrotoi on February 18, 2004, 01:32:12 PM
I know what moderating means I am moderator of some forums. I didn't want to insult you Argammon if I did my apologizes. Could you stop watching me as your enemy?

I think this is not the solution, we are only few people and everybody can moderate hisself. If a moderator is needed is because the people here are not real friends or chatfriends and the respect is foreign.

The existence of a moderator here shows the decadence of the community. (There are moderators in every sub-forum but we know it's for a different reason).

Nobody wants to slow down and everyday is a harder fight. It is a general whim and seems nobody knows it is destroying everything we built.

Think: What would you say about this community if you join right now? ..... Yes me too: "What a shit!"

PD:Victims: All.
    Winner: Nobody.
Title: Moderators ?! :'-(
Post by: Krys TOFF on February 18, 2004, 11:49:48 PM
Well, this is crazyness. :evil:  :x  :shock:  :!:

Zak does his best :
- to improve his site (replay sending form, auto updates for LTB fair war, ...),
- to give us all this forum on HIS server,
- to make smaller competitions have more pipsqueaks (Stunts portal),
- and so on...
How can anyone doubt of his motivation ?

I'm glad to hear some think I could be a good moderator, but I don't want to be it.
If I had been, MANY posts would have been deleted. :x
Zak prefers to let people explain their opinions, it's democracy. I like this freedom of speech. But some people abuse of this freedom.
I really think I would not tolerate it if I had been at his place. :x  You know, I'm not as neutral as some may think. :roll:
It's just that I don't argue and try to calm people down. Because I think flamewars are useless.
I like Metallica a lot, but I don't want to "Fight fire with fire". :wink:

Zak is tolerant, as impartial as possible (that's my opinion, too bad some could ever think the opposite), and is the one keeping this community alive.

This forum doesn't need moderator. This forum needs pipsqueaks.
This forum doesn't need flamewars. This forum needs pipsqueaks.
This forum doesn't need any insult. This forum needs pipsqueaks.

It's funny to annoy the others to motivate them to race faster than you, but where's the fun of insulting just for the pleasure of it ?

Should I remember you all it's just a game ?


P.S. :
Quote from: "Akoss Poo"Krys Toff: relatively old
What does this mean ! Respect the Elders little child ! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

P.P.S. : this topic should be moved to "chat - Zakstunts" main topic, or into "Protest and praise" one.
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2004, 01:54:38 AM
Krys,Zak asked for someone else to manage the site.I think you missed the announcement.A weaker version of that would be a moderator.
And how often do I have to say that Zak was ok with this thread?

A)Since noone wants a mod stallin stop flaming and insulting,and it's not only Akoss and CTG.That is in your dreams.

B)In the future I would wish that most of us here would read get to know what happened.How can someone be ANGRY who asked for someone else to manage the competition because he was annoyed of all this trouble if there is a post asking who would be good for a mod.
This applies to both the reactions of Alanrotoi and KrysToff:Sorry you don't make sense at all in this post:

I will repeat again:
Zak made an announce that......... manager........... wanted.........
............. moderator ....... less ............. impact............. than ............ manager............. Zak .............not .............. angry..........
You better............. read........... before........ you ..............write

PFFFFFFFFFFFT
Title: Zak
Post by: Krys TOFF on February 19, 2004, 08:37:28 AM
Argy, I understood Zak request for new manager as a fed up with flamewars and the accusations of partiality. Without remarks as I saw on some topics, I'm sure Zak would not want to let anybody else manage the site.

I don't want Zak to leave his site to anyone.
It's ZakStunts, what would mean ZakStunts without Zak ? Will it be AkossStunts ? ArgammonStunts ? No.
If others want to manage competition, let them do their own. I made 2 with, I hope, rules that could bring originality and interest. And, yes, I made all tracks in my competitions. Because it's my competition.

And I understood well your proposal to "just" have a new moderator, but then again I don't think it necessary.

All this is due to some insults going more and more stupid.
Stop insults, non-sense flamewars, and stop to say somebody else is cheating, hex-editing and so on. Then I'm sure Zak would stop wanting to let someone else manage his site.

Akoss wants someone else but Zak to design tracks, then make a proposal to Zak. Alan made a track recently, why not Akoss ?
And also I'm sure Zak design tracks as he likes to do them, not in order to penalize anyone. If you prefer tracks with less tricks, try another contest.
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: CTG on February 19, 2004, 08:51:41 AM
First of all: I think there's only one person in the community who wants to see the change of the head of ZSC seriously. I still believe in Zak, so my vote is to keep him the moderator and manager of the main Stunts championship.

I liked the idea of Akoss about the one united champioship system, but:

Keep ZakStunts, because it's hard and have a prestige (and I don't think Zak is cheater or anything else - he has really only a few mistakes, less then most of us).

Keep USC, because I want to continue managing a championship and because I think it's an ideal place for newbies.

Keep Stunts LOL, because it has also nice future

Keep peace, I liked the last evening's chat without insults or charging others with cheat!

I'm working on something at the moment. Something which could save the community members from agressive attacks, charges and useless insults. I can't tell more at the moment and I ask Zak not to share the details with the others until i'm not ready (unfortunately i have time only at the weekend for it...  :? ). I hope I can solve the problem which was made partly by my stupid behaviour.

Happy racing!
Title: oi
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 19, 2004, 10:26:04 AM
Hey! Problems are not solved! Mimas Racing is still cheating! It won't be ok if we let them cheat! New competition manager wanted! It's not the solution if I can't write to #stunts! skid you Zak!
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: JTK on February 19, 2004, 10:27:51 AM
"Relatively old"? Thank you, son. "Learned from his mistakes"? Never made any.

I want Z A K., best moderator I ever met. The only one comparable to him is/was Widde. Both are/were mods and admins who allowed freedom of speech and topics. WE are responsible for what WE write here. Banning or advising or exhorting writers will lead to uniform and one sided contributions.

So, please ZAK, stay! This is your work and it needs you! It's too early to go for you! Otherwise I definitely support your proposal: Neil McRae  8)
Title: oi
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 19, 2004, 10:36:04 AM
Quote from: "CTG"First of all: I think there's only one person in the community who wants to see the change of the head of ZSC seriously. I still believe in Zak, so my vote is to keep him the moderator and manager of the main Stunts championship.

I liked the idea of Akoss about the one united champioship system, but:

Keep ZakStunts, because it's hard and have a prestige (and I don't think Zak is cheater or anything else - he has really only a few mistakes, less then most of us).

Keep USC, because I want to continue managing a championship and because I think it's an ideal place for newbies.

Keep Stunts LOL, because it has also nice future

Keep peace, I liked the last evening's chat without insults or charging others with cheat!

I'm working on something at the moment. Something which could save the community members from agressive attacks, charges and useless insults. I can't tell more at the moment and I ask Zak not to share the details with the others until i'm not ready (unfortunately i have time only at the weekend for it...  :? ). I hope I can solve the problem which was made partly by my stupid behaviour.

Happy racing!

CTG I am disappointed in you! You are with me in private chat but now you are licking Zak's ass! Where is the truth?
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: Mingva on February 19, 2004, 11:14:34 AM
Isn't it a time to kick off Akoss temporaryly  from forum/chat for such words?
Title: ..
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 19, 2004, 11:37:23 AM
Mingva you must have already been kicked off because of your words here, but Zak is veeeery biased and unfair, so you could stay. So I can recommend you one thing: shut up.
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2004, 11:57:59 AM
You are a funny pack.

I mean saying Zak is the best moderator is hilarious.Not because I have anything against Zak but because he is/wasn't a moderator at all.He did not moderate.

So please do us a favour and say the best moderator is not moderator.The best thing is anarchy.Because that is excactly what you are saying.And the way you are saying it is wrong.




Otherthanthat noone wants a mod (let me remind you:we don't have any at the moment *g*)

And what happens?People are asking for bans? LMAO you all make no sense sorry.


And since there is no mod let me say:

I think the quality of most of the posts on this board is exactly on the same level as the times on the board.Down the drain! :)
Title: oioioioioioioioi
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 19, 2004, 12:21:15 PM
I think it was Argammon, and I must agree with him 100%.
Title: Re: oi
Post by: CTG on February 19, 2004, 12:40:19 PM
Quote from: "Akoss Poo"
CTG I am disappointed in you! You are with me in private chat but now you are licking Zak's ass! Where is the truth?

The truth is out there...  :)
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: al il professore on February 19, 2004, 01:22:47 PM
my opinion is that it is never the time to kick or ban anybody. But my opinion is pro democracy... against the blood flows
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: JTK on February 19, 2004, 02:52:50 PM
O.K. I give up. I want to race.

CU!

:roll:
Title: Re: oi
Post by: zaqrack on February 19, 2004, 09:16:43 PM
Quote from: "Akoss Poo"Hey! Problems are not solved! Mimas Racing is still cheating! It won't be ok if we let them cheat! New competition manager wanted! It's not the solution if I can't write to #stunts! skid you Zak!

There could be any other name, it wouldnt matter.
This is your very last warning on the forum.
I'm not threatening. I'm just giving a very last chance, I possibly shouldnt have to give.
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: BonzaiJoe on March 07, 2004, 07:11:25 PM
Zak is a super moderator, I don't think I've seen any better moderator. And yes, it does completely make sense to say that. You don't have to act to be a good moderator. I'm happy Zak doesn't moderate. We know he would if it was really necessary, and that's good enough for me. Neil McRae was in the other extreme, and look how extremely annoying that was...

To Akoss Poo: I really don't understand what's happened to you... you have made no sense at all for the last few months, and you must understand that no matter if Mingva has cheated or not, you have no way of proving that he did that, so you have no case. I hope you will return to your senses soon, so we can get more of your usual constructive and interesting contributions to this forum.
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: Argammon on March 07, 2004, 08:56:36 PM
Why do you dig it up?

'I'm happy Zak doesn't moderate. We know he would if it was really necessary, and that's good enough for me'

I respectfully disagree.If you add up all together what AL has said here over 2 years that's a lot more annoying than what Akoss Poo did.

And that's my honest opinion,saying I don't say that because I like Akoss over Alain but because in my opinion it's the case.
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: BonzaiJoe on March 08, 2004, 12:40:13 AM
I didn't realise how old this thread was, sorry, been away for quite a while. About Zak: I definitely agree Alain has sported much worse behaviour than Akoss Poo, and I do remember suggesting him to be banned several times, but I just generally disapprove of moderation unless it's really necessary. I have not been following the forum lately, so it would be pretentious of me to try to estimate whether it's fair to sanction against Akoss Poo.
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: JTK on March 08, 2004, 01:57:39 PM
Quote from: "BonzaiJoe"I didn't realise how old this thread was, sorry, been away for quite a while. About Zak: I definitely agree Alain has sported much worse behaviour than Akoss Poo, and I do remember suggesting him to be banned several times, but I just generally disapprove of moderation unless it's really necessary.

I absolutely agree with the last part of your sentence :!:  By the way: I must be the only one who liked some of Alains bad behavior... Maybe I should start a personal war with him to experience by myself, if he is really that bad. I could never believe it, reading between his lines...  : :shock: :  

I
Quote from: "BonzaiJoe"I have not been following the forum lately, so it would be pretentious of me to try to estimate whether it's fair to sanction against Akoss Poo.

Naah, too late and unnecessary now. Avoid creating martyrs.
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2004, 04:12:19 PM
The point is that Alain was annoying Bonzai Joe when he realized he had no chance against him on the road.
And when Alain realized he had no chance vs Argammon on the road he decided to annoy him.

And with you being a bad pipsqueak you won't ever get this special treatment.
Title: .
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on March 09, 2004, 01:38:39 AM
I guess it was Zak.
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: zaqrack on March 09, 2004, 03:57:34 PM
pD95FBB6F.dip.t-dialin.net

yes I've moved to Germany :)
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2004, 06:57:32 PM
How did you get the idea it was Zak?

And a hint to all 'guests':
next time use a proxy
Title: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: al il professore on March 23, 2004, 07:52:08 PM
funny
Title: Re: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: CTG on January 26, 2012, 04:08:57 PM
Quote from: al il professore on March 23, 2004, 07:52:08 PM
funny

yeah
Title: Re: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 26, 2012, 04:58:48 PM
Obviously the anonymous person was Aragmmon.
Title: Re: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: JTK on January 30, 2012, 01:19:54 PM
Quote from: Anonymous on March 08, 2004, 04:12:19 PM
And with you being a bad pipsqueak you won't ever get this special treatment.
:-X
Title: Re: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: CTG on January 30, 2012, 05:55:06 PM
the backgammon mystery
Title: Re: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: CTG on February 06, 2015, 09:55:10 AM
Quote from: CTG on February 19, 2004, 12:40:19 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo
CTG I am disappointed in you! You are with me in private chat but now you are licking Zak's ass! Where is the truth?

The truth is out there...  :)

I guess you know the correct answer... ;D
Title: Re: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: Shoegazing Leo on February 06, 2015, 04:33:15 PM
Quote from: CTG on February 06, 2015, 09:55:10 AM
Quote from: CTG on February 19, 2004, 12:40:19 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo
CTG I am disappointed in you! You are with me in private chat but now you are licking Zak's ass! Where is the truth?

The truth is out there...  :)

I guess you know the correct answer... ;D

Title: Re: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: alanrotoi on February 16, 2015, 07:46:18 PM
(http://sia1.subirimagenes.net/img/2015/02/16/150216074650750467.jpg)
Title: Re: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: CTG on February 16, 2015, 07:58:03 PM
Insulting from nothing? Take some pills, doggy!
Title: Re: Who would be a good and fair moderator for this board?
Post by: alanrotoi on February 17, 2015, 03:10:39 AM
Is that an insult? You are again acting like an attention whore. I'm getting tired of this charade.