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Hello, drivers.

I will be away on business for two weeks. Bye, guys.  :lol:

Now you're back, aren't you ? As I am. Let's race then. 8)

In other words you are back so you can race, don't you? don't it Mingva? :)

Yes, sure, he was away for 14 days, wasn't he ? He was.
You know, something around 2 weeks, isn't that right ?
But now he's back and he will post it on every topic, won't you DC ?
And so Mingva will be angry about that, won't you Mingva ?
This is getting boring, isn't it ? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

He's back in Santos...

Wait, let me understand it: He is back in santos after 14 days so he is able to race in these days, isn't it?

Wow, how clever you are.
You understood that ?!
Tell me, did you do surgery to triple your I.Q. ? ( :arrow: see Stunts 'r Us June news link to "Flowers for skid Vicious to understand, those who don't read the Stunts newspaper :P )

Hohoho

Thanks, guys, for further explanation...  :roll:

Yes, sometimes it happens we discuss endlessly for nothing in the forum, especially when noone is in the chatroom...

I've heard rumours again...








:mrgreen: :lol:  :wink:

Yes, I heard them too. :lol:
It seems DC will be away again for, let's say, 2 weeks. That is around 14 days I think, isn't it? (http://www.trackmania-lejeu.com/forum/images/smiles/alzheimer.gif)(http://www.trackmania-lejeu.com/forum/images/smiles/alzheimer.gif)(http://www.trackmania-lejeu.com/forum/images/smiles/alzheimer.gif)

No no no, he clearly said he would be away from September 13th to September 27th. So I guess he will be back then...

Please don't go so fast... lemme think... Dark Chaser is away again from september 13th to september 27th. It means in my honest opinion that he will be out of the stunts track for 14 days again. So he won't be able to race because as we said before he wil be..................................................


:lol:

14 days, two weeks - ehat does it mean? Nearly half a month? :mrgreen:

1/24 Year!    1/240 Decade!    1/1240 Century! :shock: :mrgreen:

Just to make it clear: he's away for 14 whole days, and will NOT race at all during that time. So his re-entry on the scoreboard will come in 14 days, at the earliest. Until then, he will be away for two weeks. So we will have to wait those 14 days.

Aah, things become clearer now. But I don't understand, BonzaiJoe, when you write "whole 14 days", does it mean 14 days times 24 hours which means 336 hours all in all?  :?

Yes JTK. I'm not sure, but I think what Dark Chaser meant was that he will be away for 14 days and 14 nights. If you read a little deeper into his message, you can see that he will be away from the 13th of September until the 27th. If you subtract 13 from 27, you get 14. One day has 24 hours, so I guess those 14 days make 336 hours in all. So don't expect to see him before that time has passed.

Dark Chaser is journalist. He is from Santos and gone to Barretos cover an event. Barretos is something about 400 kilometers away from Santos (Santos is 80km away from São Paulo, the São Paulo State's Capital City)...

The Map (Look what Barretos is in the extreme north of São Paulo State and Curitiba appears on the Parana's State...[down side])

(http://www.solnacuca.com.br/sp/sp_estado.jpg)

Nice map from Zaire AKA Congo AKA Belgish Congo AKA Weekend terrain of the belgish crown!  :roll:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

If this is Zaire, you are on Namibia...

Well, If that's Zaire I would be in the East cost like Mozambique :D

@BJ: Thanks, I guess now I understood. Although I guess the matter "2 weeks" or "14 days" and what it means to return home afterwards is far too complicated for someone like me to really comprehend in all it's depth and complexity...

:D  :lol:  8)

Also, the nature of the word "away" is actually very complicated. From my point of view, Dark Chaser is always "away", as he lives in Brazil. Whether he is in one part of Brazil or another part, doesn't really change the fact that he is away. In these two weeks, he is away from his home, but why should that bother us? He could still play Stunts wherever he is and send replays with laptop and wireless connection. So I think the main issue is actually not physical. The point is not, as Leo pointed out, that he has gone to Barretos, but that he is away from the Zakstunts competition. But Zakstunts is not a physical entity, so we are not talking about a measurable distance. The fact that he is away from his home and that he is away from Zakstunts somehow fall together, but only the last part is relevant to this forum, so I suppose that's what he was aiming to let us know.

The duration "14 days" is of course also relative, as the length of it depends on the speed with which one moves, compared to the speed of light. So those 14 days will actually be longer for Dark Chaser, because he will travel several hundred kilometers, while the rest of us just sit by our computers. With Leos map we could figure out exactly what the relative time difference between Dark Chaser's 14 days and our 14 days is. Then we could calculate exactly when he should return home (and also metaphorically returning to Zakstunts).

Wow, Bonzai Joe drunk some champignons!!!

*JTK bows his head in humility and great admiration having read the wise words of the Master Of The Rain, The BonzaiJoe and feels unworthy.*

Don't forget the uncertainty principle of Heisenberg when calculating non-relevant times. I'm very impressed you could prove, that absence and existence can occur at the same time while time is not nessecary at all.

Also you proofed, that Stunts Racing is existing beyond time and space.

Thanks for that!  8)

Quote from: "BonzaiJoe"No no no, he clearly said he would be away from September 13th to September 27th. So I guess he will be back then...

Isn't that even 15days? That would be an uttlery new point in this discussion!

That depends on our assumptions. Actually the message wasn't clear at all. If he leaves and returns at the same time of the day on the 13th and 27th, then he will be away for 14 days, but if he is away for ALL of the days, including the 13th and the 27th, then that is 15 days. So we must live in uncertainty until his return. The only thing we can know for sure is what he said: "I will be away from the 13th to the 27th".

Well, after all being sure of this we are sure of but nothing....  :(

Quote from: "Dark Chaser in ZakStunts News"(Portuguese/English) Ol?, pessoal! / Hi, guys! ; Eu estarei viajando a trabalho nas pr?ximas duas semanas (entre 14 e 27 de setembro). / I will be away on business for next two weeks (between 14 and 27 of september). ; Sem novos replays nos pr?ximos dias. / No new replays in the next days. ; Abra?os, / Hugs, ; Dark Chaser

14th! :shock:

14 :?:

Oh no, everything is lost now...  :(
That means something like - 13 days, I presume...  :?

Yes, maybe we are discussing this in the wrong thread. But as satanziege pointed out, it could be 14 days if he is away 14th-27th INCLUSIVE. But he didn't say if he was... maybe it's a kind of riddle, and he wants us to figure it out. Let's make a deeper analysis of his message, so we can find out what it really means. I think it hides something interesting...

Well, Dark Chaser should be back now, so we can ask him from when to when exactly he left and so we could calculate the exact time ha was away from his home.
But, has he didn't left just after turning off his computer from ZakStunts and as he didn't turned on his computer just when he came back, we can say that he was away from ZakStunts forum. Whatever the word away means.
Now, we can also ask him about time that passed during these days while he was away from anywhere. Did he felt that time had passed faster or slower than when he is at home playing Stunts ?
Btw, what kind of time are we all talking about ? Time measured by a clock ? Or time we feel (it's always a shorter time when we like what we do than when we hate what we do) ?
All this and what BJ said gave me a headache... I need time to rest. Time ? Which time ? Damn, my headache is growing again...

Dark Chaser? Are you back? We never really found out what you meant... could you explain us?

Oh yes, please, Dark Chaser, give us the solution to get out of this... What did you mean with 14 days? And being away? And... :shock:

I think next time DC will be away (whatever that means), he won't tell it. (http://www.trackmania-lejeu.com/forum/images/smiles/alzheimer.gif)

Quote from: "Krys TOFF"I think next time DC will be away (whatever that means), he won't tell it.

It can't be a problem. We will notice it if we can't hear anything for him. :)

Uy hermano...

Please Dark Chaser stop sending me your replays. I'm not your team-mate and I don't want your weak spamming replays...

Quote from: "Stunts Oracle"Please Dark Chaser stop sending me your replays. I'm not your team-mate and I don't want your weak spamming replays...

Maybe DC would like to be your team-mate. :roll:  :wink:

Quote from: "Stunts Oracle"Please Dark Chaser stop sending me your replays. I'm not your team-mate and I don't want your weak spamming replays...

I'm laughing my ass out....  :D  :D  :D

She has a strong personality and I guess she hates humans...

Hey pipsqueaks! Dark Chaser is away again! This time only for 12 days! What does it mean exactly? What could have happened that Dark Chaser's business trip is only 12 days long now? Come on, discuss it here again, because I'm not really understanding the case, and I'm very curious.

I might know more ;)

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In English: I, Alexandre Ramos (some call me Dark Chaser), will be away on business for 12 days (from Oct. 7 and 18). I will be reporting a sport event in Ara?atuba, Brazil. Hugs.

Alexandre Ramos/Dark Chaser

Ara?atuba? where is it?

This time it's quite clear from Zaks post, because 7 - 18 including 7th and 18th is exactly 12 days, so he has to be away from 7th, 0:00h until 18th 23:59:59.

Unfortunately he wrote this in Zaks news:
Hi, guys! I will be away on business (again!) next 12 days (between 7 and 18 of October)...

As he wrote this on 7th he was obviuously still there (after 0:00h) and *between* 7th and 18th are only 10 days. This points in my opinion towards a classic Star-Trek like space-time anomaly.

Hmm, yes, I think this is to be understood as some kind of riddle. Maybe it should be read in conjunction with the other strange enigmatic sentences he has been saying in here lately. The divergency between the amount of days and the actual time between the dates announced is striking. Perhaps he is trying to hint us something that he can't tell us directly because somebody is watching this forum... let's think hard, guys, I think he's trying to say something important.

(http://www.guianet.com.br/sp/mapasp.gif)

This is another map of São Paulo's State: Ara?atuba is on the west....

aaah thank you, I guess I only know 10 cities from brazil  :oops:

Cities in Brazil that I knew of before I saw Leo's maps:

Rio de Janeiro
Sao Paolo
Brasilia
Belo Horizonte
Curitiba
Belem
Manaus
Porto Al?gre

But Brazil is such a huge country, and the whole middle part of South America has so few big cities! Does anyone ever go there/live there?

Nop!

Hey I guess I know less cities than you:

Brasilia, Manao, Porto Alegre, San Pablo, Santos, Bahia, Rio, Belo Horizonte, Recife, Uruguayana..... I read/listened about a lot more of course but I have them on mind :?

I can't remember the city on the other side of Iguazu.....

You are forgetting Camboriu  :shock:  :lol: (I went for holidays 5 years ago...)

Let me guess: You are from Argentina don't you?

:cry:

Congrats Gutix!! If Meganium wins this year we "nos vamos de putas!" jejeje

Hecho! (o si no vamos a festejar por ah? :) )

Translate: OK!  :P

A new very interesting conversation about Dark Chaser is away


[22:52] <Gutix> minas tirith is a track from 4dsL
[22:52] <akosspoo> LOL
[22:52] <Mingva> 4dsl? is it still active?
[22:53] <Mingva> :))
[22:53] <akosspoo> it's active again i think
[22:53] <akosspoo> dark chaser won a track here if i remember well
[22:53] <akosspoo> when he wasn't away for 14 days
[22:53] <Gutix> I help to alan to check replay, I cant join
[22:54] <Gutix> 14 days???
[22:55] <Gutix> 2 weeks, isnt it?
[22:55] <akosspoo> oooh interesting question
[22:55] <akosspoo> he always writes 14 days
[22:55] <akosspoo> but in real it's always 2 weeks
[22:55] <akosspoo> and i can't understand it :))))
[22:55] <akosspoo> what's more exciting
[22:55] <akosspoo> this time he is only away for 12 days
[22:55] <akosspoo> isn't it 1.71 weeks?
[22:56] <akosspoo> or a dozen of days?
[22:56] <Gutix> mmmmm, i think yes, but...
[22:56] <akosspoo> but?
[22:56] <Gutix> im not sure
[22:56] <akosspoo> 288 hours
[22:56] <Gutix> maybe, 1.7101 weeks
[22:56] <akosspoo> but it's strange
[22:56] <akosspoo> he said he will be away from 7th
[22:57] <akosspoo> and on 7th he was still there
[22:57] <akosspoo> so isn't it only 11 days?
[22:57] <akosspoo> or 1.57 weeks?
[22:57] <akosspoo> aaaah it's too complicated for me and i think i'm far from understanding the real meaning of the 'Dark Chaser is away' saga...
[22:57] <akosspoo> :)))))
[22:58] <Gutix> jajajja

...and he came back, or he is still away?  :)

Quote from: "BonzaiJoe"Cities in Brazil that I knew of before I saw Leo's maps:

Rio de Janeiro
Sao Paolo
Brasilia
Belo Horizonte
Curitiba
Belem
Manaus
Porto Al?gre

But Brazil is such a huge country, and the whole middle part of South America has so few big cities! Does anyone ever go there/live there?

Brazilian Cities what I Know:

Curitiba
Colombo
Sao Jose dos Pinhais
Apiai
Itarare
Itapoa
Jacupiranga
Campo Largo
Campo Magro
Araucaria
Paranagua
Matinhos
Pontal do Parana
Sao Mateus do Sul
Agudos do Sul
Uniao da Vitoria
Porto Uniao
Palmas
Rio Negro
Mafra
Ponta Grossa
Palmeira
Almirante Tamandare
Pinhais
Piraquara
Tijucas do Sul
General Carneiro
Lapa
Ponta Grossa
Quitandinha
Mandirituba
Fazenda Rio Grande
Porto Vitoria
Itajai (neighbour of Balneario Camboriu)
and others of their regions...

Leo which is the city where are a lot of argentinians as tourists? It must be in the south.... Southern than San Pablo

LOL there's about 220 towns or cities in the small Hungary, and I know at least 75-80% of them. And I think Usrin knows them (almost) all.

There is more than 5300 cities in Brazil...

The city what Alan Rotoi asked may be Balneario Camboriu (in Santa Catarina), but here in Curitiba, there is many argentiniens studying or working...

I saw something very strange in news...
"02:58:37 Dark Chaser: Hello, guys! I will OUT until december 20. Reason: business again! Hugs."
I think that means DC goes away after sending this message, and we won't see him until 20th December. (I'm not sure about the meaning of this sentence... when will he get back? On 20th or on 21th?) But Dark Chaser got back 18 seconds later, and wrote another message, with the same text. Has his business route became much shorter than he expected and only took 18 seconds? And he couldn't be happy about that, because he had to start ANOTHER route, expecting it will take 10 or 11 days? And what happened after that? Because he wrote a third message at 03:03:08...
I think everybody wants to see that clearlier. Dark Chaser, there are very mysterious things about your trips for a long while...
:smt018

Dark Chaser is journalist and make a lot of travels because your job...

Does this mean he won't race until december the 20th? Does it mean he will race at December the 20th at exactly 00.00.00 o'clock? Otherwise he would not just be away UNTIL December the 20th, but also a part of that day... Dark Chaser must learn to make himself more clear...

Quote from: "Usrin"I saw something very strange in news...
"02:58:37 Dark Chaser: Hello, guys! I will OUT until december 20. Reason: business again! Hugs."

Yep, very strange... a big mistery  :?:  :)

This one is the longest 14 days period ever... ;D

What do you mean, writing "14 days period"?

When DC is away... :D

As things have developed, the concept of "2 weeks" or "14 days", whether or not they are the same, is impossible to define. We have to define "14 days" simply as "the time Dark Chaser is away". This means that even though these time periods are uneven in terms of other events like the decay of Caesium, they are actually even in terms of Dark Chaser's absence.

But then the next problem comes: how do we define Dark Chaser's absence? This being an internet forum, most of us are actually absent most of the time. And even when we are here, are we really here? There is no physical place where the forum is. There may be a server somewhere which stores the posts as binary code, but none of us relates to that as the forum. We simply each look at our own screen, and there is nothing inbetween but cables. So being absent from this place is highly metaphorical and thus cannot be ground for a serious definition of time. We can set up a generic definition of absence like "not logging in", but even then we have to draw an arbitrary line somewhere. When I go to sleep, I am absent for 8 hours. There is no qualitative difference between that and Dark Chaser's longer absence. If we were to define his absence as "absence" and my absence as non-absence, we would run into a logical dead-end because defining a prolonged absence as absence requires us already to have a non-temporal concept of absence to build from, which is what we are seeking to abolish. So to conclude, there is no absence from the Stunts forum, and it is not even possible to talk about Dark Chaser being away in a different way than anyone who is not logged on right now is away. 

Quote from: BonzaiJoe on May 29, 2009, 11:17:25 PM
As things have developed, the concept of "2 weeks" or "14 days", whether or not they are the same, is impossible to define. We have to define "14 days" simply as "the time Dark Chaser is away". This means that even though these time periods are uneven in terms of other events like the decay of Caesium, they are actually even in terms of Dark Chaser's absence.

But then the next problem comes: how do we define Dark Chaser's absence? This being an internet forum, most of us are actually absent most of the time. And even when we are here, are we really here? There is no physical place where the forum is. There may be a server somewhere which stores the posts as binary code, but none of us relates to that as the forum. We simply each look at our own screen, and there is nothing inbetween but cables. So being absent from this place is highly metaphorical and thus cannot be ground for a serious definition of time. We can set up a generic definition of absence like "not logging in", but even then we have to draw an arbitrary line somewhere. When I go to sleep, I am absent for 8 hours. There is no qualitative difference between that and Dark Chaser's longer absence. If we were to define his absence as "absence" and my absence as non-absence, we would run into a logical dead-end because defining a prolonged absence as absence requires us already to have a non-temporal concept of absence to build from, which is what we are seeking to abolish. So to conclude, there is no absence from the Stunts forum, and it is not even possible to talk about Dark Chaser being away in a different way than anyone who is not logged on right now is away. 

Too nice message to stay without a reaction. So BÖFF! ;D

QuoteLatest news from the ZakStunts crew:

   2011-06-17
The poor site admin will need to go on a business trip to Beijing the end of this month, so site update will be delayed to July 3.

I think this topic is more actual than it ever was! My question to the experts: does the interval between 2011-06-17 and "the end of the month" fit the definition of "14 days"?

Definitely not really. First of all, it isn't specified which month we are talking about. However, if we assume that we are talking about the current month, the month of June, then we do have a fixed (although imaginary) end time, which is exactly midnight after June 30th. However, 2011-06-17 is not a fixed point in time, but an interval of 24 hours. What we can conclude is this: between the first point of that interval and the "end of the month" point, there is 13,99999999... days, which is practically, but not theoretically, 14 days. This is because he is away until "the end of the month" and not "the beginning of the next month". Between the last point of the interval and the "end of the month", there is exactly 13 days.  By now we have already ruled out the possibility that he will be away for 14 days. We can definitely say that he will be away for a shorter period than that.
Now, whether 14 days can be classified as two weeks, and whether Zak is Dark Chaser's ghost, are completely different questions.

I am curious about the result :)

Darkie is away for ~1400 days (last seen in 2008).

Quote from: ZakStunts messageboard
2013-07-16 22:39- Zak McKracken
WELCOME BACK!
I am off for a holiday in 5 hours and back only in 14 days ;) but hope you'll stick with us!!!!

We know how it ends...  ;D

still drinking? :)

Quote from: zaqrack on July 30, 2013, 10:20:35 PM
still drinking? :)

hopefully yes