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Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: zaqrack on October 08, 2004, 08:06:29 PM
new track is done, you'll get it sunday possibly
(monday could happen), I like it ;)
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: alanrotoi on October 10, 2004, 05:29:57 PM
Yes, it's a very nice track. Thanks zak!
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on October 10, 2004, 05:53:33 PM
Looking forward to doing a fantastic time tonight! :)
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: Mingva on October 10, 2004, 09:45:32 PM
Well, track is nice :) But there's one important place which I don't like - the beginning of the track. The one with best start will win the whole race  :!:
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: DieselJoe on October 11, 2004, 12:22:59 AM
If you look to the right, shortly before the end of the divided highway which leads from Denmark to Germany, you can see a windmill of a village near the one I live in! :mrgreen:
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: alanrotoi on October 12, 2004, 03:00:44 PM
Mingva wrote in zakstunts: "wow, BonzaiJoe is furious :)) "

To be 1,5 faster than a 15 mins. try is not to be very furious :D
Shame on pipsqueaks who will end over 1:20  :lol:
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on October 12, 2004, 04:24:31 PM
Yes it is easy to go under 1:20, it demanded about 25 minutes for me, but hard to improve by seconds, the track is too easy, too easy banked 6th gear corners everywhere. There's 2 real places where we should try to max out our replays: of course the beginning, and the sharp corner on the hill.

Again this track is about maxing out the rpl, and not about Indy skills. That's why Alain has a very good chance to win.
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: BonzaiJoe on October 12, 2004, 05:47:53 PM
I would have liked to see a slightly more difficult track also (like ZCT20 :D), but I think I will enjoy this race very much anyway.
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: Mingva on October 16, 2004, 09:23:25 AM
Shit! If our stupid chairwoman won't turn heating this month in our house, I won't be able to send better time for z44. Because it's impossible to handle indy with gloves.
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: Ezekiel Kemboi on October 22, 2004, 04:16:33 PM
B??????????????????????FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.

There's only 1 Indy track per a year. And this one track in 2004 is this shit... War of milliseconds, easy banked corners, track of "maximum replay handling pseudo pipsqueaks" (copyright by Pershing II). When will we drive again a real Indy track at ZakStunts like in 2002?

I am winner of many Indy tracks in other competitions, beating famous drivers there... somebody always makes it impossible to do it at ZakStunts by creating crappy Indy tracks...
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: Ezekiel Kemboi on October 22, 2004, 04:30:20 PM
And another question: why are the tracks with shit cars so difficult, demanding the full driving skills of the given car, and tracks with good cars are shit, easy, full with banked corners, no shortcuts? I last felt driving a good car and a track back on ZCT 36. Track was done by Argammon.

And before that? On ZCT 28. And at other competitions? They're full of good cars and tracks!
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: zaqrack on October 23, 2004, 11:32:33 AM
go drive elsewhere
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: Mingva on October 23, 2004, 07:25:57 PM
Quote from: "zaqrack"go drive elsewhere
Great suggestion  :lol:
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: Ezekiel Kemboi on October 24, 2004, 03:00:26 PM
But this is the only competition I can drive against the world elite. It's a pity on such weak tracks.
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: Ezekiel Kemboi on October 29, 2004, 04:13:43 PM
Hmm I just realized that it's good that the medium class drivers could get close to the top on this track. I think it is good 1-2 times a year... but not with the Indy, because the Indy victory has the biggest value, and because of this, we need a hard track with big time gaps. I hope second Indy track will be harder (but maybe with less water). Maybe Bonzai Joe or Alan Rotoi should design it.
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: zaqrack on October 29, 2004, 10:28:37 PM
ok but this is a competition for all the cars, the indy track has exactly the same value (or at least supposed rto be so)  as the others
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: BonzaiJoe on October 30, 2004, 02:02:25 PM
I refuse to design a track - I'm a pipsqueak, and besides I'm not half as good at it as Zak. I suggest letting JTK design tracks though. He's a track-designer, and it's a pity we can only very rarely race on his tracks.
Title: Kalpen Bros competition
Post by: Krys TOFF on October 31, 2004, 12:12:18 AM
Quote from: "BonzaiJoe"I refuse to design a track - I'm a pipsqueak, and besides I'm not half as good at it as Zak. I suggest letting JTK design tracks though. He's a track-designer, and it's a pity we can only very rarely race on his tracks.
Don't worry BJ, Kalpen 2004 is supposed to begin in november. Isn't it JTK ?
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: Ezekiel Kemboi on October 31, 2004, 02:51:43 PM
Quote from: "zaqrack"ok but this is a competition for all the cars, the indy track has exactly the same value (or at least supposed rto be so)  as the others

In the past years with the Indy we always had very hard battles in the top, unlike sometimes when car and track were both shit. Maybe you give as many points for the Indy track as for the others, but in real, it's always the biggest thing to win with the Indy, even if it's not expressed in points.

I think Bonzai Joe is a much better track designer than Zak. He is my 2nd favourite. :) First is Krys and third is CTG. :)
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: BonzaiJoe on October 31, 2004, 04:54:11 PM
I have only published three tracks in my lifetime, one competition track, one TDC track and one which was both (Debrecen, Bordeaux, Beijing). They all sucked. And the races? Debrecen was boring in my opinion. Beijing was yet another clear win for Alan Rotoi. Zak, on the other hand, has designed about 40 tracks. While I must say some of them weren't very good, most of them were, and it's harder to be consistent when designing so many tracks. I think Zak's design style should go more in the direction of ZCTs 3, 5, 11, 14, 18, 19, 20, 22, 28, 30, 31, 33, 36, 39, 42. And not be so much like ZCTs 6, 10, 13, 21, 24, 26, 35, 40, 43, 44....
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: Ezekiel Kemboi on October 31, 2004, 05:24:12 PM
Quote from: "BonzaiJoe"I have only published three tracks in my lifetime, one competition track, one TDC track and one which was both (Debrecen, Bordeaux, Beijing). They all sucked. And the races? Debrecen was boring in my opinion. Beijing was yet another clear win for Alan Rotoi. Zak, on the other hand, has designed about 40 tracks. While I must say some of them weren't very good, most of them were, and it's harder to be consistent when designing so many tracks. I think Zak's design style should go more in the direction of ZCTs 3, 5, 11, 14, 18, 19, 20, 22, 28, 30, 31, 33, 36, 39, 42. And not be so much like ZCTs 6, 10, 13, 21, 24, 26, 35, 40, 43, 44....

I liked your Beijing very much, it was one of my top5 favourite IRC/ISA tracks (Kinshasa was clearly the best).
Debrecen was something like what a Ferrari track should be. Wasn't too much paved corners, rather little shortcuts everywhere. I tried to copy that track somehow when I designed ACT 11, but I think I wasn't succeeded... Debrecen was a great track!
Bordeaux was a nice little track, without anything special.

About Zak's tracks: First ZCT 33 was Rotoi's track, ZCT 36 was Argammon's track.

I agree tracks like ZCT 13, 21, 24, and especially 40 and 44 should be completely dismissed. They are too easy, full of banked corners.
For me tracks like ZCT 33, 35, 42 and 43 were very much the same cathegory, all the track is about spinning the car, a lot of spins placed in the track. I must say this despite I had very good results on ZCT 33 and 43 with my worst cars.
Zak also had very much bad dual way tracks like ZCT 11, 12, 23 (this track, LOOOL) and 34. After ZCT 23 he said no more dual way tracks... and we saw this in this January... :(
But on ZCT 43 we had the most interesting dual way part at Stunts history! It was a very slight difference only between the two ways, well done. ZCT 29 was good I think at this aspect, too.
I saw some good Zak tracks as well. Since I have joined, I liked ZCT 15, 16, 17 (oooh what a good track it was! still my favourite Zak track), 20, 22, 26, 28 (again a fantastic track!). ZCT 30 wasn't bad either. ZCT 38 was very interesting and good, but it was unexplainably short. He should continue this trend, although he seems like losing it.

I rarely can understand why most of the people consider Zak to be a good track designer overall.
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: JTK on November 01, 2004, 11:59:30 AM
@Kryss Toff and BJ: *sigh* I wanted to. But first of all (!!!!) I need a new job! And almost all my online time is spent for that search, sorry!

But plans are made and almost ready but I do not have any time at the moment  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :evil:  :x  :?  :x  :(  :(  :(

...writes a very, very sad JTK...

:(
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: alanrotoi on November 02, 2004, 04:20:49 AM
I just smile watching how many tracks in zakstunts were since I'm here and I only remember a few.

I guess I raced in 23 tracks. 10 of them I raced to win (14, 15, 16, 17 , 18 , 19, 20, 21, 22 and 23). And the last 10 I raced for the team points.
I think I missed 6 or 7 tracks.
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: BonzaiJoe on November 02, 2004, 04:28:51 PM
I can understand you JTK... I wrote a report about the german economical problems, and it seems you are not the only one who is having a hard time getting a job down there. I hope you are a member of a labor union or something, and that you will soon get a new job!
Title: Thanks
Post by: Krys TOFF on November 02, 2004, 09:12:34 PM
Quote from: "Ezekiel Kemboi"I think Bonzai Joe is a much better track designer than Zak. He is my 2nd favourite. :) First is Krys and third is CTG. :)
Me ? First ? Thanks a lot. :D
Which one did you prefer ?


Quote from: "JTK"@Kryss Toff and BJ: *sigh* I wanted to. But first of all (!!!!) I need a new job! And almost all my online time is spent for that search, sorry!
Well, I think everyone can understand this reason. We will wait, no problem. And... Good luck finding a job.
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 05, 2004, 02:24:03 AM
Krys: I really liked the first two tracks of IMSA Cup 2!! Everglades were very good, too, and check my votes on your track at TDC, I think I always gave good votes on your tracks.

Btw how do you like the gay party on the ZCT 44 current podium?
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: Stunts Oracle on November 05, 2004, 03:01:32 AM
Stop talking and race weak humans. I rule this world and you will never win.
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: Krys TOFF on November 05, 2004, 08:26:54 AM
Quote from: "Akoss Poo"Krys: I really liked the first two tracks of IMSA Cup 2!! Everglades were very good, too, and check my votes on your track at TDC, I think I always gave good votes on your tracks.

Btw how do you like the gay party on the ZCT 44 current podium?

Then I hope to see you at IMSA Cup 4 in 2005. :wink:

About Z44, I had no time to race recently, but don't worry I will race again, and improve of course. :wink: Beware Damage Inc. power. 8)
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: JTK on November 05, 2004, 09:42:01 AM
<off topic>

@BJ: No I'm not! I once was member in a union, but know what? I needed my union three times but then they never did anything for me. On the other hand they sometimes are even worse than any other public instance: Huge, grey, too old fashioned, depending on what once was, not trying new things to raise labour politics... The main boss of the union Ver.Di (Bsirske), where I was member once, tells things in such an old, old fashioned socialistic way, I cannot listen to him without getting ear ache. Each anti-fashist parole has more conten than what that dick headed, very well earning guy. Those were reasons for me to leave the union last year.

</off topic>
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 05, 2004, 06:56:35 PM
When will be the final update? Tomorrow night? Sunday? Monday? I'm very excited this time. Zak! What can we expect?
Title: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: zaqrack on November 05, 2004, 08:55:20 PM
tomorrow night around 9pm like planned
if not (low possibility) , I'll try to inform you.
Title: Re: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: CTG on January 30, 2012, 06:00:35 PM
Typical one man show from the smallest poo. Sucker!!! ;D :P
Title: Re: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 30, 2012, 08:31:25 PM
What?
Title: Re: ZCT44 - Euro Zone
Post by: CTG on August 05, 2013, 08:46:53 AM
Quote from: Ezekiel Kemboi on October 22, 2004, 04:16:33 PM
B??????????????????????FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.

There's only 1 Indy track per a year. And this one track in 2004 is this shit... War of milliseconds, easy banked corners, track of "maximum replay handling pseudo pipsqueaks" (copyright by Pershing II). When will we drive again a real Indy track at ZakStunts like in 2002?

I am winner of many Indy tracks in other competitions, beating famous drivers there... somebody always makes it impossible to do it at ZakStunts by creating crappy Indy tracks...

Quote from: Ezekiel Kemboi on October 22, 2004, 04:30:20 PM
And another question: why are the tracks with shit cars so difficult, demanding the full driving skills of the given car, and tracks with good cars are shit, easy, full with banked corners, no shortcuts? I last felt driving a good car and a track back on ZCT 36. Track was done by Argammon.

And before that? On ZCT 28. And at other competitions? They're full of good cars and tracks!

Crymachine with huge mouth and ego. Muhahahaha!

(This time I'll kick your ass, again.)