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Title: Sports
Post by: CTG on October 10, 2005, 01:00:24 AM
This topic is for your comments about sports instead of football. If it deserves a separate topic then I think we must start another for the others. Cycling? Basketball? Athletics? This is the place for them!
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on October 10, 2005, 01:11:00 AM
Forever:

- Vegy?sz RC Kazincbarcika (Volleyball)
- Pick-Szeged (Handball)
- Alba Vol?n (Ice Hockey)
- Jan Ullrich (Cycling)
- Ezekiel Kemboi (Athletics)

skid Off:

- Kom?ta-Kaposv?r (Volleyball)
- MKB Veszpr?m (Handball)
- Veszpr?mi Sasok (Badminton, Laura planned to join this team, but I don't think that she would restart playing badminton)
- Lance Armstrong (Cycling)
- Williams sisters (Tennis)

More to cum...
Title: Sports
Post by: CTG on October 13, 2005, 12:33:28 AM
Forever:

- Gy?ri Graboplast ETO, especially G?rbicz (women handball)
- MKB Veszpr?m, Tento ETO (men handball)
- Shaq, the monster (NBA)
- Philadelphia Flyers (NHL)
- Fazekas R?bert (banned discus thrower, the real winner of Athens 2004)
- Talm?csi G?bor (Moto GP, 125 ccm)
- Domino BHSE, Vasas, Eger (water polo)

Dirty:

- Cornexi Alcoa, Viborg (women handball)
- Lance Armstrong, Bodrogi L?szl? (cycling)
- Jao Ming (NBA)
- Detroit Pistons (NBA)
- Alekna, the lucky ass (discus thrower)
- KTM (Moto GP)
- Lindsay Davenport, Williams sisters (tennis)
- Serbian waterpolo team
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on October 13, 2005, 11:04:56 AM
CTG: I'm not supporting Bodrogi since he betrayed his native country.

Btw, forever:

- Pittsburgh Penguins, Mario Lemieux, Swedish team (ice hockey)
- HUNGARIAN ICE HOCKEY TEAM
- old Chicago Bulls, especially Scottie Pippen
- Talm?csi G?bor (Moto GP)
- Michael Schumacher (F1)
- Alexander Popov (swimming)

skid off:

- Serbian water polo team of course ;)
- Detroit Red Wings
- all Australian and American swimmers, especially the women
- Raikk?nen, Hakkinen, McLaren, Ron Dennis etc.

Still more to cum.
Title: Sports
Post by: CTG on October 13, 2005, 11:11:00 AM
Forever:

- Cseh Laci (swimming)

Dirty:

- Michael Phelps
Title: Sports
Post by: Chulk on October 13, 2005, 08:49:55 PM
Forever:

Mika Hakkinen/McLaren-Mercedes 2 times champions ('98;'99)
LA Lakers (Fisher-Kobe-Fox-Horry-Shaq) several times champions
K. Raikkonen in McLaren


Totally hate

M. Schumacher and his Ferrari
Serbian Basketball team champions (The referee fucked us hard in the World Championship final game in Indiana)
K. Raikkonen goes to Ferrari? :twisted:  :twisted:
Title: Sports
Post by: Dinmor on October 17, 2005, 06:38:55 PM
Forever

Aarhus GF (handball, men)
Bakken Bears (Basketball)
Green Bay Packers (NFL)
Ivan Basso (cycling)
Sergiy Bubka (Athletics) retired
Halie Gebrselassie (Athletics) retired
Justine Henin-Hardenne (Tennis)
Patrick Rafter (Tennis) retired
Michael Stich (Tennis) retired
Thomas Enqvist (Tennis)
Tim Henman (Tennis)
Greg Rusedski (Tennis)
Marc Philippoussis (Tennis)

Dirty

Kolding (handball, men)
Thw Kiel (Handball, men (sorry JTK))
Lance Armstrong (Cycling)
The Williams Sisters (tennis)
Mary Pierce (Tennis)
Natalie Mauresmo (Tennis)
Leyton Hewitt (Tennis)
Title: Sports
Post by: Usrin on October 17, 2005, 09:16:52 PM
Quote from: "Chulk"K. Raikkonen goes to Ferrari? :twisted:  :twisted:
It's a bit like 1994 when Senna went to Williams. :? Whatever Akoss and CTG say, Ferrari and M. Schumacher are dirty, and they have the most "fashion" fans (see IRL Racing topic). Forever McLaren and Finnish pipsqueaks!
Title: Sports
Post by: Usrin on October 17, 2005, 09:19:51 PM
CTG, you've missed somebody.

Forever:

- J?nos Szabolcsi (chess, Keleti pu.) :D
Title: Sports
Post by: CTG on October 17, 2005, 09:40:21 PM
Forever:

- Colin McRae (WRC) - retired
- Anna Kournikova (tennis) - retired
- Klitschko brothers (boxing)
- Zsolt Erdei (boxing)
- Bob Sapp (K1)
- Remy Bonjanski (K1)
- Therese Alshammar (swimming)
- Alexander Popov (swimming) - retired
- Daniel Gyurta (swimming)
- Peter Besenyei (Red Bull Air Race)

Dirty:

- Pete Sampras (tennis) - retired
- all finnish technical sport pipsqueaks
- McLaren Mercedes
- Hugo Hernan Garay (boxing)
- Julio Pablo Chacon (boxing)
- Stefan Leko (K1)
- Alexandra B?res (fitness)
- all chinese swimmers
- Kitajima (swimming)
- Kirby Chambliss, Mike Mangold (Red Bull Air Race)
- Alain Per? (cycling) :P
Title: Sports
Post by: al il professore on October 17, 2005, 10:03:34 PM
Earl Anthony
Born: Apr. 27, 1938
Bowler
6-time PBA Bowler of Year; 41 career titles; first to earn $100,000 in 1 season (1975); first to earn $1 million in career; came out of retirement in '96; ranked 11th on list of PBA career money leaders through 2001-02 season.
Died: Aug. 14, 2001
Title: Sports
Post by: Chulk on October 18, 2005, 12:37:30 AM
Someone else to hate
FERNANDO ALONSO

and someone I don't know but who really deserves my hate:

The guy in charge of McLaren/Mercedes motors in 2005 season, they cost Kimi the championship and McLaren the constructor's cup
Title: Sports
Post by: CTG on October 18, 2005, 07:56:27 AM
Quote from: "Chulk"Someone else to hate
FERNANDO ALONSO

and someone I don't know but who really deserves my hate:

The guy in charge of McLaren/Mercedes motors in 2005 season, they cost Kimi the championship and McLaren the constructor's cup

CTG slaps Chulk around a bit with a large trout. :D
Title: Sports
Post by: Chulk on October 24, 2005, 08:14:35 PM
Quote from: "CTG"

CTG slaps Chulk around a bit with a large trout. :D

What does "Trout" mean???
Title: Sports
Post by: zaqrack on October 24, 2005, 08:25:41 PM
a fish, commonly called as salmon.
Title: Sports
Post by: alanrotoi on October 25, 2005, 11:50:40 AM
aah pense q era lengua  :?
Title: Sports
Post by: Usrin on November 15, 2005, 03:29:51 PM
Quote from: "CTG"Forever: MKB Veszpr?m (men handball)
Quote from: "Akoss Poo"skid Off: MKB Veszpr?m (Handball)
Quote from: "Dinmor"Forever: Aarhus GF (handball, men)
LOL! MKB Veszpr?m will play against Aarhus GF in the 1/8 finals of Champions League! Dinmor (and Bonzai Joe): aren't you going to cheer for Aarhus in Veszpr?m? I'm sure there is a guest sector, and Akoss Poo would also be there! :D (While CTG would probably try to pick up some MOOish bitches in the home sector...)
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 15, 2005, 09:45:36 PM
Forever Pick-Szeged! skid off EHF! I guess they were cheating when they gave Ciudad Real as opponent for Szeged!

Go Aarhus! B?FF! :D
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 16, 2005, 03:52:26 PM
For those who don't know: Veszpr?m is the hometown of the biggest Helen, my ex-girlfriend, Laura. B?FF!

Btw, in Hungarian sports newspaper it is written that the coach of Aarhus handball team considered the strongest team finished in runner-up spot during the group phase, and they would have really liked to avoid playing Veszpr?m. B?FF #2!
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on December 04, 2005, 04:50:18 PM
Quote from: "Usrin"LOL! MKB Veszpr?m will play against Aarhus GF in the 1/8 finals of Champions League! Dinmor (and Bonzai Joe): aren't you going to cheer for Aarhus in Veszpr?m? I'm sure there is a guest sector, and Akoss Poo would also be there! :D (While CTG would probably try to pick up some MOOish bitches in the home sector...)

There's inactivity by Bonzai Joe and Dinmor. Then I have to tell you the result of the first match:

MKB Veszpr?m KC - Aarhus GF 30-21 (11-12)

Should I smile or cry? A good result for Hungarian handball, but it's annoying if I think about my ex-girlfriend and her hometown. So B?FF!
Title: Sports
Post by: Shoegazing Leo on December 05, 2005, 08:47:52 PM
Unifill Londrina Brazilian Male Handball Champion for the 1st time!!!!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on December 10, 2005, 06:03:33 PM
Aarhus handball team sucked again.

Aarhus GF - MKB Veszpr?m KC 28-31 (12-15)
Veszpr?m got into the quarter finals (60-49, double victory)

skid OFF VESZPR?M, DIE LAURA!!!
Title: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 12, 2005, 04:55:11 PM
French teams in men handball :
- with a marvelous second half, Montpellier also got qualified for quarter-final of men, handball.
- in the meantime, JTK's Kiel team "punished" Paris team : 44-28.
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on December 12, 2005, 06:58:08 PM
Hungary also had an other team in the last 16, but Szeged had to face the strongest and richest opponent (let alone the cheating referees):

Pick-Szeged - Ciudad Real 31-32
Ciudad Real - Pick-Szeged 36-27
Title: Sports
Post by: Usrin on December 17, 2005, 08:09:48 PM
I think Akoss Poo is very contented with this result: Pick-Szeged - MKB-Veszpr?m KC 27-24 (12-13), and with the fact that Szeged has taken the lead in the Hungarian championship. :)
Title: Sports
Post by: Chulk on December 25, 2005, 12:09:58 AM
Fernando Alonso goes to McLaren in 2007  :-D  :-D  :-D
Juan Pablo Montoya leaves the team?  :-D  :-D  :-D
Kimi Raikk?nen leaves the team?  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:
Title: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 29, 2005, 10:15:53 PM
Quote from: "Chulk"Fernando Alonso goes to McLaren in 2007  :-D  :-D  :-D
Juan Pablo Montoya leaves the team?  :-D  :-D  :-D
Kimi Raikk?nen leaves the team?  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:
2007 Formula 1 prediction game is opened.

My guesses :
Mc Laren : Alonso-Montoya
Ferrari : Ra?konnen-Rossi (yes, yes, Valentino Rossi)
Renault : stops F1 after 2006.

2007 F1 winner : V. Rossi. Best driver in the real world, whatever the bike or the car.
Title: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 25, 2006, 06:14:58 AM
Valentino Rossi?

Maybe Renato Biker, Ayrton or Alain could get a contract too then? I think they would win, whatever the track or medium :-)
Title: Sports
Post by: Mingva on January 28, 2006, 03:38:21 AM
woohoo, it's probably the first time I'm writing in forum so late. The main reason for it: watching live basketball game, Indiana vs. Cleveland :)

...and Cavs won it.
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 30, 2006, 08:38:55 AM
nowadays Pittsburgh often has a bad day... :?
Title: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on February 07, 2006, 03:12:24 PM
I'm suprised that nobody mentionned that FRANCE is the new men handball European Champion, after beeing World Champion twice (1995 and 2001).
I must say it, I know BJ and JTK will be pleased. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 07, 2006, 03:36:44 PM
Congratulations France :-)

I don't care much about handball, but I must say I am very pleased that Denmark won the bronze medals.
Title: Sports
Post by: JTK on February 21, 2006, 05:23:20 PM
Quote from: "Krys TOFF"
I must say it, I know BJ and JTK will be pleased.

Congrats, of course. All in all I'm satisfied with the German results, they were better in the end than I have thought of. By the way - where does Nikola Karabatic play? Right, THW Kiel!  :-D

Title: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 21, 2006, 11:31:30 PM
Torino 2006, ice hockey tournament predictions:

Quarterfinals:

Finland - United States 2-3 (lucky asshole americans)
Switzerland - Sweden 1-5
Russia - Canada 2-1
Slovakia - Czech Republic 4-2

Semifinals:

United States - Russia 1-3
Sweden - Slovakia 1-2

Bronze match:

United States - Sweden 3-2

Final:

Russia - Slovakia 3-4

Do you like my tips, Usrin? :)
Title: Sports
Post by: Usrin on February 22, 2006, 08:47:54 AM
Quote from: "CTG"Do you like my tips, Usrin? :)
Yes, I agree with them, but I'm afraid you've underestimated the gaps of our victories. :D
Title: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 22, 2006, 12:24:08 PM
The usual big fishes are crap now, CZE and CAN is weak.
Title: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on February 22, 2006, 12:24:31 PM
Quote from: "CTG"Torino 2006, ice hockey tournament predictions
I disagree : Finland will beat USA and final match will be Sweden (victory) vs Finland. 3rd team will be Russia.
Swedish badly played during groups qualifications but they will react.
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 22, 2006, 01:29:31 PM
The Finnish and the Slovakians played too good hockey, it's impossible to do it throughout a whole tournament. It's about the same for the Swiss, the dream will be over against Sweden. USA is not good enough to advance to the semi finals. I guess the tournament would really start for the Czechs and for the Swedish now. Watch out for them! But in my opinion, the Russians are the best team in this tournament. With their combinativite, effective and nice hockey, they are my hot favourites of the Olympic Games.

My predictions:

Finland - United States 3-1
Switzerland - Sweden 2-4
Russia - Canada 4-1
Slovakia - Czech Republic 2-3

Semi finals:

Finland - Russia 1-2
Sweden - Czech Republic 3-2 after extra time

Bronze match:

Finland - Czech Republic 2-3

Final:

Russia - Sweden 2-0
Title: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 23, 2006, 12:13:00 AM
Quote from: "Akoss Poo"My predictions:

Finland - United States 3-1
Switzerland - Sweden 2-4
Russia - Canada 4-1
Slovakia - Czech Republic 2-3

Well-done, all your "winners" are in semi-final.
Title: Sports
Post by: Usrin on February 23, 2006, 12:26:01 AM
DAMN IT!!! :twisted: In the good old communism, we could have been olympic champions together, with an unbeatable Czechoslovak team! Forever communism, forever Czechoslovakia!
Title: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on February 23, 2006, 03:15:57 PM
Quote from: "CTG"
Quote from: "Akoss Poo"My predictions:

Finland - United States 3-1
Switzerland - Sweden 2-4
Russia - Canada 4-1
Slovakia - Czech Republic 2-3

Well-done, all your "winners" are in semi-final.

Quote from: "Krys TOFF"Finland will beat USA and final match will be Sweden (victory) vs Finland. 3rd team will be Russia.
Swedish badly played during groups qualifications but they will react.
My predictions are correct too so far : Finland, Russia and Sweden are still there.
USA (silver in 2002) and Canada (gold in 2002) were not good enough to expect to preserve their Olympic title.
Czech rep. or Slovakia as the 4th semi-finalist won't change anything : top 3 will be Sweden, Finland and Russia.
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 23, 2006, 03:22:56 PM
Yes, Krys has 3 correct tips out of 3. But I have 4 out of 4. :D I'm looking forward to the semi finals!!!
Title: Sports
Post by: vamologocomisso on February 23, 2006, 06:46:56 PM
I tough canada was the best team in ice hockey, like brasil in football (allways fighting to become the champion), but in all your predictions canada is out the podium  :?

brasil REALLY sucks in winter games (whys that ???  :lol: )
the best result in all times was the girl who finish in the 9th place. 9th!!!! WOOOOWWW!!! We kicked some ass!!! :-D  :-D  :-D
the real bad part was that she finish in 9th because the other 3 crashed in the couse, AHUAHUAHUUHAUHAhuahahuahahuuhahuaeuhaehu
Title: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 23, 2006, 06:49:02 PM
Canada played without soul on this tournament. They deserved the loss.
Title: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on February 24, 2006, 01:16:06 PM
Quote from: "vamologocomisso"I tough canada was the best team in ice hockey
They used to be. They may be again in the future. But the way they played since the beginning of the olympic tournament obviously showed that they are not as good as they were in 2002.
Title: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 24, 2006, 07:57:59 PM
Sweden is already in the final with amazing performance. They know the right timing...  :)
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 25, 2006, 12:12:21 PM
I saw the Sweden-Czech Republic match, and I almost ejaculated on it! FOREVER SWEDISH HOCKEY TEAM!

I was drinking heavily while Russia sucked against Finland, but the result surprised me very much.

Now in the final: Finland would deserve the victory, because Sweden was unfair when they gave up the Slovak match in order to match with Switzerland in the quarter finals. The Finns only give a very nasty bodycheck to Jaromir J?gr, and this is less unfair I think in ice hockey.
But Finland won't get that gold medal, because the Swedish Golden Team will make them suck in the final!!! :D:D:D
Title: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on February 25, 2006, 11:59:47 PM
Quote from: "Krys TOFF"Finland will beat USA and final match will be Sweden (victory) vs Finland. 3rd team will be Russia.
Well, my tips for semi-finals were correct, but Czech made me wrong about 3rd place : they beat Russia 3 to 0. :shock:
Now, let's see the Swedish victory I tipped one week ago. :-D
Title: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on February 27, 2006, 05:47:12 PM
Quote from: "Krys TOFF, 22nd of February"(...) final match will be Sweden (victory) vs Finland. (...) Swedish badly played during groups qualifications but they will react.
And final result is : Sweden 3 -2 Finland.
Who's the best ice hockey tipper ? :-D
I told you Sweden would be back on top.
Peter Forsberg was ill at the beginning of the tournament, that's why Sweden had a bad start. And in the end of qualifications they planned to lose one match to be sure to play against Switzerland on quarter-finals. :wink:
Congrats to Finland also, they did a great tournament.
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 27, 2006, 05:49:16 PM
Quote from: "Akoss Poo"But Finland won't get that gold medal, because the Swedish Golden Team will make them suck in the final!!! :D:D:D

Oh, yeah! B?FF! :D:D:D
Forever Swedish hockey team! :D:D:D

By the way I also made good predictions. The only problem was that I overestimated Team Russia's skills.
Title: Sports
Post by: JTK on February 27, 2006, 06:43:47 PM
And which country's team won the most medals?

:-D
Title: Sports
Post by: Argammon on February 27, 2006, 08:22:53 PM
For some of the couch potatoes:

Doing sport instead of just watching it on TV is better for your health  :twisted:



No I don't mean YOU  8)
Title: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 27, 2006, 08:56:39 PM
Are we also supposed to drive real racing cars instead of playing Stunts? I don't think that would be good for our health...

Who cares about health anyway? Live strong, die young :-)

"My candle burns in both ends /
It will not last the night /
But all my friends and all my foes /
It gives a lovely light"
Title: Sports
Post by: Argammon on February 27, 2006, 11:13:41 PM
QuoteWho cares about health anyway? Live strong, die young

1) I

2)Hard without 1

3)NC
Title: Sports
Post by: Argammon on February 27, 2006, 11:15:32 PM
QuoteLife over 70 years just sucks.  

Heavy meals, alcohol, drugs, sex, sex, sex, sex...


Heard of biological age? Some 70 year olds can be as fit as other people with 50.




But then again we will most likely get rolled over a car,nailed,nuked or whatever anyways so what the heck am I talking about?
Title: Sports
Post by: Mislav on February 27, 2006, 11:22:17 PM
Sweden, Austria, USA, Russia, blablabla...

GERMANY IS THE WINNER OF THE OLYMPIC GAMES 2006!!!

:)
Title: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 28, 2006, 12:17:21 AM
Quote from: "Argammon"
QuoteWho cares about health anyway? Live strong, die young

1) I

2)Hard without 1

3)NC

Okay, I understand "1) I", but what's the rest supposed to mean?
Title: Sports
Post by: lised on February 28, 2006, 09:43:32 AM
Quote from: "BonzaiJoe"Are we also supposed to drive real racing cars instead of playing Stunts? I don't think that would be good for our health...

Who cares about health anyway? Live strong, die young :-)

"My candle burns in both ends /
It will not last the night /
But all my friends and all my foes /
It gives a lovely light"


Agree! Well spoken  =D>
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 28, 2006, 10:13:15 AM
For the Germans: you should count your medals in ice hockey, alpine skiing and maybe in figure skating before you're speaking. These are the 3 only sports which count. Other sports - in which the Germans won medals - are not well-known sports, only few countries care of it. Don't overappreciate your mediocre performance, I think. The Swedish ice hockey gold value much more than the 11 German gold medals.
Title: Sports
Post by: Argammon on February 28, 2006, 11:17:05 AM
Akoss,who are you to say which sports count?


BJ,yes CTG was right.
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 28, 2006, 11:40:25 AM
I know which are the popular sports which are acknowledged well over the world, and which are only done in a few countries - that shouldn't count as greatly as the winner of the ice hockey tournament, or of the men's alpine downhill, or the ice dancing champion.
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 28, 2006, 11:43:26 AM
It's like when somebody said to me when I talked about the world champion Hungarian water polo team that 'and who cares about water polo?' I guess your biathlonists and luge 'drivers' are even less known than our water polo world stars, the great champions. Maybe not in Germany - but in Europe.
Title: Sports
Post by: Mislav on February 28, 2006, 12:23:29 PM
Two words:

JANICA KOSTELI?

:)
Title: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 28, 2006, 12:37:36 PM
Water polo classes in my eyes:

Superb world class teams:

Hungary
Serbia and Montenegro

World class teams:

Italy
Croatia
Spain
Russia

Strong teams:

Greece
USA

Middle class teams:

Australia
Germany
Netherlands
Romania
Slovakia

Listfillers:

any other teams :)
Title: Sports
Post by: Mislav on February 28, 2006, 12:40:14 PM
Akoss, it's true that some sports are more known, but I wouldn't say that some medaills count more or less. The olympic spirit is always the same.

About the most popular and spread winter sport - we all agree it's alpine skiing. That's why it's the hardest competition, not only in Olympic games. There are millions of proffesionals in that sport around the world. It means it's very hard to be champion in this. Very hard :) And if you want to see who is the best in alpine sking, you could watch in Torino the Alpine ski COMBINED - men, women. Combination, because it shows skills in downhill and slalom, and thats the best category to see the overall skills of the worlds best pipsqueaks in Torino:

Men - Ivica Kosteli?  - SILVER
Women - Janica Kosteli? - GOLD

And Croatia doesn't even have mountains with ski tracks over 1400m! What could be if we had snow? :)
Title: Sports
Post by: Argammon on February 28, 2006, 12:48:32 PM
Of course biathlon is a bigger sport than water polo.

IMO water polo is close to curling  :lol:


Another point is that who is well known is something that's hard to check or even to prove.
The only important indicator would be how much money is being earned with a certain sport.And yes the icehockey team players earn a lot :D


'or the ice dancing champion.'

I don't know,for me that's not important at all.To much about taste and less about real performance.
Title: Sports
Post by: Argammon on February 28, 2006, 02:17:07 PM
And some people only like certain sports because they are good at it :)

The whole discussion makes no sense.

I don't know why akoss needs to diss other countries just because JTK was a bit proud about the medals.

And the discussion which sport is more important is about as fruitless as discussing what's the best track in stunts.It's a matter of taste....
Title: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 28, 2006, 04:39:47 PM
Denmark has only won one Winter Olympics medal ever - it was the Silver medal for Women's Curling in Salt Lake City 2002 :D

I think the most important competitions are: downhill, ski jump, slalom, giant slalom, super g, ice hockey

But that's just my opinion, I am not an absolutist on the area...
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 28, 2006, 09:16:24 PM
Water polo is a relatively well-known and popular sport, and not only in Europe. I think not Arg should offend me with considering the sport (water polo) in which HUN are good superior to others, rather the opposite: biathlon is a sport only known among biathlon fanatic ppl apart from the countries which are really good at it (Germany, maybe Norway). It's always the best to be in the most important sports: football, handball, athletics, swimming etc.; and of the winter sports: ice hockey, alpine skiing and figure skating (which is not a sport IMO, but winners are well-known all around the world). Arg, I just attacked A BIT the Germans because when I was proud of our water polo victory, somebody hurt me A BIT when he said who did care about it. I need respect to our water polo team!
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 28, 2006, 09:19:04 PM
Quote from: "Mislav"Men - Ivica Kosteli?  - SILVER
Women - Janica Kosteli? - GOLD

Congrats to the Kostelic family, I really admire them! I follow the skiing competitions on Eurosport (my favourite skiing event is alpine skiing), so I really know them well, I saw them many times. By the way, I have a Slovenian favourite, the beautiful GS specialist Tina Maze. ;)
Title: Sports
Post by: Mislav on February 28, 2006, 09:28:09 PM
Ou yes... Tina Maze is very good looking, specially in normal clothes (without ski mask etc...) :)
Title: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on February 28, 2006, 10:49:46 PM
Quote from: "CTG"Water polo is quite popular in Europe
Except in Belgium : all their horses got drowned. :-D
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on March 04, 2006, 07:15:41 PM
Honv?d - Mladost Zagreb 12:10

Honv?d went through, and now we are waiting for a dirty Serbian team or a squad of Italian actors in the quarter finals. And: B?FF! Forever Hungarian water polo! Again B?FF!

To JTK: MKB Veszpr?m KC is in the semi finals in the handball Champions League. And what happened to THW Kiel???!!!  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
Title: Sports
Post by: Argammon on March 05, 2006, 10:34:41 AM
Akoss,
you have kept insulting other nations in the last couple of weeks(month?) and I don't get why.
You will find enough examples in this thread or the football thread :),btw laughing about other nations crappy results isn't nice either ;P

Anyways I don't really care to much as I'm -unlike you- not very nationalistic.

But imagine someone else posted stuff about hungary like you do about other nations?

For example want to call your 'Water polo team' dirty actors?
Laugh about the results of the hungarion football team?
Laugh about the fact hungary is nonexistant in winter olympics and nearly nonexistant in summer olympics?


Bottom line:
Don't do to others what you don't want to happen to yourself.
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on March 05, 2006, 11:20:01 AM
Nearly unexistant on the summer olympics? We won 8 gold 6 silver 3 (or 4?) bronze last time, finished 13th on the medal table, and we are the 8th most successful nation ever on the games. In Sydney we also had 8 golds, in Atlanta 7, in Barcelona and Seoul 10 (or 11?). So...

Hungarian football? Well, we have 3 olympic golds and 2 world cup silver, from earlier times. Now we are not so strong, but we will rise again!!!

And we are only a small and poor country. But sports mean the power of a nation!!!

Argammon, I don't know why you are taking it up as an insult, I'm just saying that our nation is better in a certain sport than an other. It certainly didn't wanted to be an insult.

About Italian water polo players (and about Spanish): if you have ever watched water polo, you maybe recognized that there's always big fight with legs, body etc. under the water. These mediterranean nations often act that somebody faulted against them. And because these nations have good sport diplomacy, the referres always eat this. Serbians play too hard, they slaughter in the pool, so besides the Hungarian team, I like the Croatian and the Russian teams or national team.
Title: Sports
Post by: Argammon on March 05, 2006, 11:38:48 AM
Akoss I did not want to argue about how well Hungary is doing in sports.
To be honest I didn't even look up the last medal tables before I made my comment.

I just said that to show you it's not nice if someone disses your country.
And as I know that you are quite proud of your country I think you should be one of the first to realize insulting other countries may hurt other people....


That's all I wanted to say :)
Title: Sports
Post by: CTG on March 06, 2006, 09:13:00 PM
I agree with Akoss, Italian water polo is based on acting, but they have still a world class team. Serbians are very (usually too) agressive in the pool - that's what I miss from the Hungarian team. Hungarian water polo is attractive and effective in the same time (sometimes I think our players are artists, they do the tricks with the ball on very high level) - we are the Brasils of this game. I think our creative gameplay, the Serbian aggression and good defense would result an unbeatable team.
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 23, 2006, 10:15:54 PM
Division I ice hockey WCH starts tomorrow (group A) in Amiens, France! I'm a very enthusiastic fan of the Hungarian team! A strong group B team under the Hungarian circumstances (only 3 strong teams, only 4-5 normal ice rinks)... it sounds really impossible, they did much more than a sound minded person would have thought...

This time we are in the faaaar strongest group. Oppontents are: Germany (1st seed), France (2nd seed, host nation), Hungary (3rd), Great Britain (4th), Japan (5th), Israel (6th).

The Japanese came with a much stronger team than last year, i'm really afraid of them. Israel is full of ethnic Russian players. Great Britain is weaker than us, but they are a 'mumus' of us (we hate to play against them... remember last year's match... :?). France is far worse than the other 2nd seed (Poland) would have been, but I would say the same about Germany (Austria), Great Britain (Estonia) and Japan (Lithuania) too... skid off IIHF btw!

But I hope for a bronze!

My (maybe a bit pessimistic) prediction:

1 Germany
2 France
3 Japan
4 Hungary
5 Great Britain
6 Japan
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 23, 2006, 10:21:32 PM
Tips for the first day:

Israel - Germany 1:9

Great Britain - Hungary 3:4

Japan - France 2:3
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 26, 2006, 10:35:36 AM
Results:

Israel - Germany 2:11
Great Britain - Hungary 3:4 !!! :D:D:D
Japan - France 1:4

Germany - Japan 4:0
France - Great Britain 1:0
Hungary - Israel postponed due to holocaust day  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:


My predictions to today's and tomorrow's matches:

Hungary - Israel 7:1

Israel - Japan 1:8
Germany - Great Britain 7:2
France - Hungary 2:2 let's hope  :roll:
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 26, 2006, 06:28:39 PM
After 55:04 (4:56 left) it's 7:0 to Hungary!  :lol:
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 26, 2006, 06:42:14 PM
Hungary  - Israel  
 
8 - 0
( 3 - 0 ,  3 - 0 ,  2 - 0 )  
Period 3 Ended

Shots: 37-7
Saves: 7-29
Penalty Minutes: 16-22

Third Period  
60.00 GK out Hungary  1. BUDAI, Krisztian  
60.00 GK out Israel  1. AMROMIN, Boris  
55.39 8 - 0 PP1 Hungary  13. GROSCHL, Tamas  
(19. OCSKAY, Gabor)  
(24. PALKOVICS, Krisztian)  
55.04 2 min  Israel  2. SPIVAK, Daniel Tripping
52.33 7 - 0 EQ Hungary  24. PALKOVICS, Krisztian  
(5. SZELIG, Viktor)  
48.18 2 min  Israel  19. OOSTERHOUSE, Ely Interference
46.20 2 min  Israel  18. SOREANU, Ron Interference
44.01 2 min  Israel  16. GELLER, Avishai Holding
41.43 2 min  Hungary  3. SVASZNEK, Bence Highsticking
40.28 2 min  Hungary  13. GROSCHL, Tamas Tripping
40.00 GK in Israel  1. AMROMIN, Boris  
Second Period  
40.00 GK out Israel  20. GUSIN, Jevgeny  
37.26 2 min  Israel  10. FRENKEL, Sergey Roughing
34.54 6 - 0 PP1 Hungary  5. SZELIG, Viktor  
(19. OCSKAY, Gabor)  
33.15 2 min  Israel  10. FRENKEL, Sergey Charging
31.43 2 min  Hungary  3. SVASZNEK, Bence Interference
29.23 2 min  Israel  18. SOREANU, Ron Highsticking
27.35 5 - 0 PP1 Hungary  28. PETERDI, Imre  
(4. HORVATH, Andras)  
25.50 2 min  Israel  10. FRENKEL, Sergey Highsticking
25.11 4 - 0 SH1 Hungary  10. VAS, Marton  
(28. PETERDI, Imre)  
24.03 2 min  Hungary  2. KOVACS, Csaba Interference
First Period  
17.41 2 min  Hungary  2. KOVACS, Csaba Slashing
16.20 2 min  Hungary  12. LENCSES, Tamas Interference
13.43 3 - 0 EQ Hungary  10. VAS, Marton  
(6. TOKAJI, Viktor)  
(11. LADANYI, Balazs)  
13.05 2 min  Israel  33. REVNIAGA, Edouard Interference
12.07 2 min  Hungary  24. PALKOVICS, Krisztian Holding the stick
8.59 2 min  Israel  2. SPIVAK, Daniel Interference
6.40 2 - 0 EQ Hungary  2. KOVACS, Csaba  
(15. MAJOROSS, Gergely)  
5.12 1 - 0 PP1 Hungary  10. VAS, Marton Game Winning Goal
(28. PETERDI, Imre)  
4.30 2 min  Israel  2. SPIVAK, Daniel Interference
0.32 2 min  Hungary  28. PETERDI, Imre Hooking
00.00 GK in Hungary  1. BUDAI, Krisztian  
00.00 GK in Israel  20. GUSIN, Jevgeny
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 27, 2006, 08:53:11 PM
What a match!

France-Hungary 2-2 after 23 minutes!

Other scores today:

Japan - Israel 7-1
Germany - Great Britain 8-0!!!  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 27, 2006, 09:18:50 PM
after 2 periods the score is 3-2 to the hosts  :?  :(

only one powerplay goal is the difference to the french (hungary had no power play so far)

the 2nd french goal was very lucky

shots on goal: 18-13 to france, penalties: 4 minutes for the hungarian side, 0 for france

let's hope we can equalize that damned game

unfortunately i have to leave the computer room within 10 minutes  :twisted:
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 29, 2006, 03:02:46 AM
FRANCE 3-3 HUNGARY!!!
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 30, 2006, 05:10:18 PM
Yesterday:

Japan - Great Britain 4:2

France - Israel 9:0

Hungary - Germany 2:6 (we were leading till the 36th minute, it was 2:2 till the 46th minute)

Today:

Great Britain - Israel 12:0

Standings before last 2 matches:

Rank Team GP W T L GF:GA GDF PTS
1 GER  4 4 0 0 29 : 4 25 8
2 FRA  4 3 1 0 17 : 4 13 7
3 HUN  4 2 1 1 17 : 12 5 5
4 JPN  4 2 0 2 12 : 11 1 4
5 GBR  5 1 0 4 17 : 17 0 2
6 ISR  5 0 0 5 3 : 47 -44 0

After 1 period:

Hungary - Japan 1:1

Final battle later in the evening:

Germany - France
Title: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on May 15, 2006, 01:34:15 PM
No she's not. She has the face of a man...
Title: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on May 15, 2006, 03:08:51 PM
Obviously, the picture CTG published have been modified with a computer to hide all her body imperfections, especially her face.
Take a look at this other picture of her and you'll see :
(http://www.origo.hu/i/0405/20040525gorbicz33.jpg)

Some other pics of her... Not very female attitude ! :P
(http://www.origo.hu/i/0405/20040525gorbicz332.jpg)
(http://www.nemzetisport.hu/db/0F/0A/i00016F0A67de6ddc5609.jpg)
(http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/TV2/archive/00222/Anita_G_rbicz__Unga_222458s.jpg)
(http://kisalfold.netrix.hu/cikk/16/152291/2.jpg)

But she is not so bad when photos are computer-improved... If you like small breasts :lol: :
(http://dithyramb.blogs.com/my_weblog/images/anita_gorbicz.JPG)
Title: Sports
Post by: Chulk on May 15, 2006, 10:34:49 PM
Quote from: "BonzaiJoe"No she's not. She has the face of a man...
I agree with this, but she's not that bad either. I give her a 5 or 6 of 10 possible.
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on May 16, 2006, 01:01:00 AM
I think she's feminine enough; and I really like in her that she's a fantastic player without being a muscle pile.

Overall rating: 7.5/10 for her!
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on May 16, 2006, 01:51:39 AM
Hey, French! Can you tell me what he Mr. Pat Cortina is saying in an interview? I'm not asking to translate the whole, please only shortly sum it up for me - I'm very very curious. Thanks!

http://www.hockeyarchives.info/interviews/cortina.htm
Title: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on May 16, 2006, 12:08:22 PM
I'm too lazy to make a summary, and I'm not sure to keep only the informations that YOU want Akoss.
So, here is a full translation (mostly automatic, I corrected some French words that were not translated) :
QuoteInterview of Stalemate Cortina


After being replaced of the station of selector of Italy because the federation had a new project at the head (camp of drive in Canada with players of Italian extraction, entrusted to Mickey Goulet), Pat Cortina became trainer of the national team of Hungary at the same time as of the club of Alba Vol?n. With the championship of the world of division I of Amiens, it finished in fourth position of the group.


- This championship of the world gave the results awaited for Hungary... except this last match against Japan.

Yes, it is that. We were tired, and that compromised our last result. Our objective here was a medal, and we arrived from there rather near.

I believe however, like underlined it the Japanese coach, which it is necessary to give of the importance for the fact that one played the day before against Germany and that one tried to gain the match. The fact of having even been in string for gold is a compliment with my players. I am disappointed that they set out again the empty hands.

But it was shown that one was there. The matches as that against Germany are important for Hungary. It is very proud people, and when the national teams have success, that helps much this sport.


- the carryforward of the Hungary-Israel match lent to polemic in the Hungarian press. Did it really disturb you ?

Yes, we are all the same the only team to have had to play four matches in five days - with of course Israel. Even if this match could appear easier, the following were not it at all, and to connect with France, Germany and Japan, it were really not easy.

Hardest, it was the fact of having to change. Questions were put : "why now", "why only us ?"... It was necessary to work to try to bring back the concentration.


- will Hungary be able to aim at the accession in elite soon?

For a few years still, our objective will have to be to play five goods matches. The executives of our team are growing old. From the athletic point of view, we are not same level as Japan or France. It is a problem of working conditions : the players should not be good athletes to have success, they can have bad habits and rest during all the summer. Like there is not much competition, the players can have a place in the team even with an unacceptable physical condition.


- This message is it listened ?

Not. The conditions around the team do not force the players to work. Admittedly I also make pass this message with my club Alba Vol?n, but I could not really change the things.


- is there a changing in Hungary ? Does the relegation of less than 18 years in residence mark a brake application ?

The situation of less than eighteen years unfortunately was not very well managed, because it was not the priority of the federation. It is sure that it is not in division II that they will be able to develop, but their place is in division I world.

There are some young people, like Hegyi, who made the preparation with us and who will be integrated the next year. The problem is that they were not put to the test, because the championships juniors in Hungary are not competitive. In the world of the men, one is tested tous.les.jours. But as the championship is too easy, the players develop bad habits and take pleasure in old ways of making.

The next year, we will have also the reinforcement of three naturalized : Roger Holeczy, a Am?ricano-Hungarian, Omar Henafati, a Canadian of Moroccan father and Hungarian mother, and Rastislav Ondrejcik, Slovak. It is Alba Vol?n which had recruited them, because that interests the clubs to have young people with the Hungarian roots.

Their presence will enable us to save time. One will be able to thus work with young people and nevertheless to remain in the group B.


- You had very hierarchical lines here, it is a principle ?

Usually, I rather disperse my best players on various lines. I had tried to make it front, and it appeared that it was not the best thing for our team. It was thus the most logical way to make to face this championship of the world. When we have a good center with Holeczy, plus Janos Vas which was retained in AHL this season, we will have what to make better lines.


- Gabor Ocskay was stopped a few months for cardiac problems the last season. Was its return important for you ?

Yes Gabor, it is a complete player, who works extremely and is a good athlete. It is a "good guy", like you say in France. He passed through his problems. Its heart is very very large, from the metaphorical point of view too.


- There are promising indices for Hungarian hockey. One speaks much about Budapest Stars (club assembled by parents of players who assembled oneself starting from the small categories).

Yes, all the initiatives are positive. Since five years and half which I am in Hungary, five skating rinks opened. That, it is really a very important step.


- What brought the trainer ?rp?d Kercs? to Budapest Stars ? One announces his replacement by Robert Spisak for the next season.

Ah ? I did not know. Kercs?, it is a Su?do-Hungarian, who comes from Djurg?rdens IF where it was at good school. Its assets are in the organization and technical work.

What Budapest Stars did, it is to attach more importance to the development and less to the results. If not, when one makes play the best, those who do not have the level drop. They do not have fun, therefore they release hockey. Perhaps that will make it possible to have more players in Hungarian hockey.


- do the clubs seniors of Budapest (UTE and CTF) start to become more competitive ?

Only one of them is competitive, ?jpest. But on another side, one is likely to lose Duna?jv?ros because of his financial problems. To have a team in the capital helps with publicity, but from a technical point of view, it is similar. To have Alba Vol?n plus another club, that is not enough, it is necessary some more. But in any event would, where seek the players ? One will need ten to fifteen years before there is more, with the development of the new skating rinks.


- the Slovenien club of Jesenice required to integrate the Austrian championship. Which will be the repercussions for Interliga and thus for Hungary ?

In my opinion, if Jesenice plays in the Austrian championship, there is no more International League. It adversaries should be found elsewhere, to perhaps turn to Poland. To remain right with the Hungarian championship, it is not possible, it does not have there what.


- Which was the contribution of the players of NHL which evolved/moved in Hungary the last season ?

That brought a little publicity. If one knows a little Budapest, one knows that these players did not come to play hockey, but to have fun. But good, it was important for the Hungarian hockeyeurs of c?toyer this kind of players.


- You knew a federation of the sports of ice in Italy and a federation of hockey in Hungary. What brings independence ?

It is more practical to decide, even if it is perhaps less strong, with less weight. The decision-making process is less long. If there are the means, in Hungary, one does what there is to do. In Italy, the means exist, but before putting them in?uvre, one needed the support of the majority of the politicians.


- do you Follow the topicality of Italian hockey ?

Not, not much. I still live in Italy, with the Valley di Fassa, but to tell the truth, I am especially football and Milan...


- It seems that Alvise di Canossa (president of Milan) and Nilo Riva (president of Alleghe), formerly symbols of poles to the opposed ideas, worked together on a project of league. There do you see a positive sign ?

If that is born, it is very positive. But I in arrived in 1988, and there is a thing which I never saw, it is all the Italian hockey which works for the good of Italian hockey. That made twenty years that there are always the same problems.


- did the club frioulan of Pontebba gain the A2 series and should assemble in A. Interesting to develop Italian hockey ?

It would be well for Italian hockey to see a new area represented, but it is not sure that they can play in A. Pontebba had already had to fight so that its team is allowed in the second division, because the other clubs were not interested to go to play over there and make displacement.


- Italy has skating rinks of which it does not do anything. What makes Hungary like effort of development ?

The federation is very active in this field, in particular the secretary-general Zolt?n Kov?cs, who works very extremely in all these projects of new skating rinks.

There is full with things which it is possible to make and whose Italy could be inspired. In Hungary, one sends the national team to patinate with the young people, one helps with the organization and one implies oneself in the development of hockey.


- will you continue your mission for Hungary until this development carries its fruits ?

I spent two years and half formidable in Hungary, I discovered a simple and practical world. People give all that they have, it is easy to work. I will continue to think of Hungarian hockey.

But it acts of my livelihood. The national team, that accounts for three to four weeks per annum, and me and my small daughter let us not live of that.


- Alba Vol?, is it finished ?

Yes I worked hard every day. We gained three championships, it does not have there juniors in the team, we reach the end of a cycle. Under these conditions, to start a new cycle, there are two solutions : either one changes ten or twelve players, or one changes trainer. With the means of the club, the first assumption is excluded, because it is not at its competitors that it will be able to find players, it does not have as much of it there. Therefore, it is the wisest decision which the organization made.


- For this tournament, you reinforced your staff with Diego Scandella, trainer of the juniors of Lugano.

Yes, it is a colleague and a buddy. It is not because one seeks to bring his friends in the entourage, but one tries to find somebody who is quasi-voluntary. Because one of the problems in Hungary, it is that one does not have qualified trainers.


- What misses with the trainers who worked there up to now ?

Technically, the Czechs and Slovak made good job. On the other hand, tactiquement, in the team game and the physical condition, there are gaps.


- Towards which nationalities would it be necessary to be turned in your opinion ?

I am enough amateur of the Scandinavian nations. I think that it is necessary to look towards the Finns. It is enough to take as example what Slovenia [ note did : who had a Finnish trainer these two last years ], which appears a realistic objective for Hungary. In the means and the level, it is comparable, one is there, and they make good job.


- Since you in the search of a club, could you are return to Italy ?

I worked in Italy and there I could have remained, after all my family is there and I miss my small daughter. But it is necessary to try to find a club competitive, which plays the title, because there is too much in Italy which are satisfied of a fifth or a sixth place. I am 42 years old, I still have too much fire in me, I cannot be satisfied with a semi-classification, except if there is a medium-term project to become competitive to four or five years.


- And which is your opinion on French hockey ?

There are good players, a good technique. It is a play enough exciting. One will see this evening if it is also effective


[ interview carried out before France - Germany] (Krys TOFF addition : Germany 5 - 0 France :shock:  :lol: )

Remarks collected on April 30, 2006 per Branchy Marc
Title: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on May 16, 2006, 07:11:45 PM
Stalemate Cortina  :lol:
Title: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on May 17, 2006, 11:25:36 AM
Quote from: "BonzaiJoe"Stalemate Cortina  :lol:
LOL ! I didn't notice that "Pat" was translated this way. :lol:
Title: Sports
Post by: CTG on May 17, 2006, 06:55:16 PM
Women handball:

Graboplast ETO KC - Ferencv?ros in action. Last round of the championship, ETO is leading by one point in overall against Ferencv?ros. Equation is easy: the winner will be the champion. BUT! Both teams played in international cup finals' first match last weekend and the re-match will be soon. So it's a bit more difficult: which one is more important? To play with reserve team, losing the championship and having more chance with fit top players in Cup Winner's Cup (ETO)/EHF Cup (Ferencv?ros)? Or will they focus on the championship's prestige. We will see soon.

Go, G?rbicz, go!
Title: Sports
Post by: CTG on May 17, 2006, 06:59:05 PM
CELEBRATION BEGINS!!!  :)

Graboplast ETO KC - Ferencv?ros 26-25 (14-13)
Gy?r, 2200 n?z?
v.: Dobrovits, T?jok

ETO: M?rtel 7, G?rbicz 6, B?di 4, V?rten 4, Lazer 2, Bradeanu 2, Juh?sz 1.

Ferencv?ros: Kirsner 5, Kamper 5, Szamor?nszky 3, T?th T. 3, Uhrakova 3, Laluska 2, Szucs?nszki 2, Valovic 1, Horv?th 1
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on May 17, 2006, 08:10:33 PM
Btw I forgot to mention:

In the Hungarian volleyball championship final (men):

Vegy?sz RC Kazincbarcika - Kom?ta-Kaposv?r 3-2 :D:D:D

Kazincbarcika-Kaposv?r 3:0
Kaposv?r-Kazincbarcika 3:2
Kazincbarcika-Kaposv?r 3:0
Kaposv?r-Kazincbarcika 3:2
Kazincbarcika-Kaposv?r 3:0

In the Hungarian Cup Final:

Kazincbarcika-Kaposv?r 2:3 :( :twisted:
Title: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on May 21, 2006, 05:42:18 PM
skid off MKB Veszpr?m KC!!! Forever Pick-Szeged!!!

Ice hockey WCH, my tip for the final (played tonight):

Sweden - Czech Republic 4-2
Title: Sports
Post by: CTG on May 22, 2006, 02:18:46 PM
Smelly-dirty Podgorica!!!

Gy?ri Graboplast ETO KC-Buducnost Podgorica (SCG) 23-26 (10-14)
Winner: Podgorica, 51-48

Poor G?rbicz, she scored 11 times but nobody else could play wellin this final.

ETO reached international cup finals 5 times (twice against Viborg, once against Ikast, Cornexi and Podgorica) in the last 10 years - we have 5 silver medals. Mental problems? Refrees are dirty? Dunno but it's annoying.

Smelly-dirty Jorge Barrios!!! He won with a super lucky punch and with a super insultive pre-history of the match. Nagy couldn't do the warm-up training before the match because the organizers disturbed him with ignoring/accepting/ignoring his hand bandage. Barrios is a better fighter but 1st round KO is too early. As a realistic boxing fan I say that this knockout would be normal in the 9th-10th round (if he can do the warmup) or with a minimal luck Nagy could survive all the 12 rounds and lose by 116-112 or 117-111.

"In the co-feature bout, Jorge Rodrigo Barrios successfully defended his WBO Junior Lightweight title with a one punch knockout over previously-unbeaten Janos Nagy. The southpaw Nagy was content to use lateral movement as he circled Barrios. Barrios would work behind a jab in attempt to land to the body. Waiting for the right moment, Barrios landed a left hook to the body of Nagy. After a few seconds, Nagy took a knee and winced in pain. Before the count of 10, Nagy stood up in pain, prompting referee Raul Caiz, Jr. to stop the fight at 49 seconds of the round.

After the fight, Barrios was not surprised with the knockout. "I knew I landed a good punch on him," said Barrios, who won the title over Mike Anchondo last year. "If I was going to knock him out, I thought it was going to be a right hand to the head." Asked about future plans, Barrios responded, "I would like to fight the winner of Barrera versus Juarez." Nagy was diplomatic in defeat. "I feel very bad about the way the fight ended. It was a legal punch. I have never been hit like that before." Barrios, from Tigre, Buenos Aires, Argentina, improves to 46-2-1, 33 KO's. Nagy, from Budapest, Hungary, drops to 24-1, 13 KO's."
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: DieselJoe on August 02, 2006, 03:43:19 PM
Quote from: CTG on August 02, 2006, 01:41:20 PM
Germans! Did anybody watch Universum Box Promotion's event on ZDF last weekend?
No! BoooooOOOOOoooOOOooOOOoring!  :P
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on November 05, 2006, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: CTGFrench guys: do you know anything about Fabrice Tiozzo's career? Will he really retire? I hope not. Zsolt Erdei must kick his ass once.
Yes, he decided to stop because he was tired of waiting the fight versus a real oponent. He didn't consider the Argentinan Hugo Hernan Guara? (fight was planned 19th of november) as a real opponent for him. He was waiting the 100% Frecnh fight versus Jean-Marc Mormeck for almost 2 years (that would mean for Tiozzo to change his weight category) and it has always been delayed...

It was the 19th of October that he announced his decision to retire, but 5 days later he told that he will keep his training "just in case". So, maybe a 2nd come-back is possible for him if the fight versus Mormeck is finally planned.

For information, Fabrice Tiozzo had 48 victories and only 2 defeats, both versus the American Virgil Hill (1993 and 2000).
Title: Handball World Cup in Germany
Post by: JTK on November 06, 2006, 09:48:45 AM
Handball World Cup 2007 in Germany - YES, I've got tickets for the 22nd of January in Kiel (!):
That will be a nice day...  8)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on November 06, 2006, 10:35:06 AM
Quote from: CTG on November 06, 2006, 10:28:33 AM
We will kick their negro ass. ;D
For me it would be enough if Hungary simply wins by lplaying Handball...  ::)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on November 06, 2006, 01:25:40 PM
Well - if Hungary does not win, that will be a real shame! (Also for the Danish!)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on December 12, 2006, 03:19:15 PM
Quote from: JTK on February 21, 2006, 05:23:20 PM
Quote from: Krys TOFF
I must say it, I know BJ and JTK will be pleased.

Congrats, of course. All in all I'm satisfied with the German results, they were better in the end than I have thought of. By the way - where does Nikola Karabatic play? Right, THW Kiel!  :-D



Well, THW Kiel will have to face a very difficult opponent in the 1/4 finals of the Champions' League: MKB Veszpr?m KC (HUN). :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on December 12, 2006, 03:27:15 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on December 12, 2006, 03:19:15 PM
Well, THW Kiel will have to face a very difficult opponent in the 1/4 finals of the Champions' League: MKB Veszpr?m KC (HUN). :)

*yawn* No way. We'll beat them easily.  ;D

BTW: In January I've got tickets for handball world championship in Kiel (!): Denmark - Angola and Hungary - Norway. Yeehaw! :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on December 12, 2006, 03:37:45 PM
Quote from: JTK on December 12, 2006, 03:27:15 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on December 12, 2006, 03:19:15 PM
Well, THW Kiel will have to face a very difficult opponent in the 1/4 finals of the Champions' League: MKB Veszpr?m KC (HUN). :)

*yawn* No way. We'll beat them easily.  ;D

BTW: In January I've got tickets for handball world championship in Kiel (!): Denmark - Angola and Hungary - Norway. Yeehaw! :)

It won't be that easy!!!
And what do you think about tonight's HUNGARY-GERMANY women's handball ECH match?
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on December 12, 2006, 10:52:53 PM
We are silent about a handball match played today...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on December 12, 2006, 11:12:01 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 12, 2006, 10:24:54 PM
MKB will knock out Kiel without any great efforts.

*LOL* CTG, what about a bet? A crate of Dithmarscher Urtyp against 4 sixpacks of Borsodi at the next WSM? MKB will definitely NOT win!  8)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on December 13, 2006, 09:50:12 AM
Hahaa - you dont dare to bet. But seriously: Even if the THW should be beaten in Hungary, the back game is in Kiel and there is no single chance for Veszprem. And I'd really like to have some Borsodi at the WSM 2007 - whoi will bet against me? Akoss? Usrin?  8)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on December 13, 2006, 05:04:00 PM
Well the chance of Akoss Poo showing up on WSM 2007 is about 70% at the moment. It's possible that I would travel by plane, on the plane, there's weight limit, mostly 20 kgs. That much of beer would weigh dearly, so if I'm ready to bet, only in a smaller amount of Borsodi/Dithmarscher. And I said only that won't be an easy job against Veszpr?m: I guess the aggregate difference won't be more than 3 goals to THW Kiel if THW Kiel goes through the semi finals. The chance for Veszpr?m is 35% to knock out Kiel in my opinion.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on December 13, 2006, 06:28:39 PM
If the Hungarians start to admit that they might lose, that should mean they are going to be totally wiped off the field :)

Anyway, I'm with THW Kiel because Veszprem knocked out Kolding IF in the 1/8 finals :(

(I don't really care about handball, but I can pretend...)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on December 14, 2006, 11:32:13 AM
OK, Akoss, then we'll bet like this: 1 crate of Dithmarscher against 2 sixpacks of Borsodi and a handfull of those great, small, hot Salamis!  :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on December 14, 2006, 12:43:46 PM
JTK, JTK, I'd also travel back home... :) :) :) So how would I carry home that heavy crate of Dithmarcher on plane? :P :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on December 14, 2006, 12:47:19 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on December 14, 2006, 12:43:46 PM
JTK, JTK, I'd also travel back home... :) :) :) So how would I carry home that heavy crate of Dithmarcher on plane? :P :)

Well Akoss - you have to drink it all there at the meeting. And if you cannot I will kindly help you!  ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 18, 2006, 10:45:20 AM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on December 12, 2006, 10:52:53 PM
We are silent about a handball match played today...
Female handball European Nations championship : France 29 - 25 Germany.
France has bronze medal, Germany has JTK. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on December 18, 2006, 02:49:38 PM
I'm very pleased with what the gals achieved! Such a pity that there's always a problem with the French... ;)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on December 19, 2006, 06:27:34 PM
And an alternative performance by the danish team. It's strange to think they were olympic champions two years ago.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on January 09, 2007, 11:16:29 AM
Gy?ri Audi ETO KC strikes back in women handball! After the lost European Cup Winner's final they beat the former dirty opponent in Champions League.

ZRK Buducnost T-Mobile Podgorica - Gy?ri Audi ETO KC 25 - 31 (12 - 16)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on January 09, 2007, 01:47:53 PM
Did the Hungarian handball team win over the German one the weekend before last weekend although it had two chances to? No it did not! :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on January 09, 2007, 01:48:52 PM
Because we will beat Germany at the World Cup!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on January 09, 2007, 03:32:20 PM
Maybe - now three more players from Germany got hurt.  >:(
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 09, 2007, 03:41:33 PM
Quote from: JTK on January 09, 2007, 03:32:20 PM
Maybe - now three more players from Germany got hurt.  >:(

Only 2 in the Hungarian team (Laluska and Buday), but former Serbian international Puljezevic got the Hungarian passport and he can play in the Hungarian team.

I still think the problem is bigger for the Hungarians, Germany has quality players even on the bench, too.

We will have to beat the Norwegian team to qualify for the main round, chance: 55%.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on January 09, 2007, 08:41:54 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on January 09, 2007, 03:41:33 PM
We will have to beat the Norwegian team to qualify for the main round, chance: 55%.
And I will watch this game live - it is in Kiel in one week! :) I guess, Hungary will win against Norway.
Title: Welcome Hungary
Post by: JTK on January 18, 2007, 10:30:57 AM
Aaaah, great - tomorrow my World Championship starts. And it's so great that six handball games are in Kiel :)

And now - welcome Hungary to our beautiful Schleswig-Holstein! :) Yesterday the Hungarian handball team arrived and will play a test game against HSG Flensburg-Handewitt. And where do they stay? Of course in Kiel in the Maritim Hotel. Im looking forward seeing them win against Norway on Monday!

Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 18, 2007, 12:39:54 PM
I'm looking forward to see France win the Handball World Cup. ;D

Official tests matchs of France before the WC :
France 29-21 Norway (yesterday)
Denmark-France 23-30 (11th of January)
Denmark 28-25 France (10th of January, the only match lost)
France 35-26 Tunisia (7th January)
France 38-25 Czech Republic (5th January)
France 32-28 Qatar (4th January)
France 37-25 Russia (28th October 2006)
France 31-28 Russia (25th October 2006)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on January 18, 2007, 03:32:34 PM
France, I also guess, will win, they have got best chances. Too many of the good Germna players are injured. >:( But let's see...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 18, 2007, 08:57:14 PM
Last matches of the Hungarian team:

Hungary-Iceland 39-31
Hungary-Iceland 32-28
Hungary-Slovakia 29-24 (in Poland)
Hungary-Czech Republic 37-36 (in Poland)
Poland-Hungary 18-29
Hungary-Germany 20-23
Hungary-Germany 23-23
Hungary-Slovenia 30-24
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 19, 2007, 09:34:11 AM
Quote from: JTK on January 18, 2007, 03:32:34 PM
France, I also guess, will win, they have got best chances. Too many of the good Germna players are injured. >:( But let's see...
Don't forget that almost all best French players play in Germany. German players made French players get better. In case France wins, it will be a little bit due to Germany. So you could consider that German handball had almost won too. :D :D :D
Anyway, maybe Hungary will win the World Cup, so... ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on January 19, 2007, 11:11:20 AM
No, Hungary won't.They'll become 6th, I suppose.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on January 19, 2007, 02:57:08 PM
Muhahahahahhaa, Akoss!!! As I predicted:

Boston Bruins - Pittsburgh Penguins 5-4  :P
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 19, 2007, 02:58:54 PM
We need to be in the top7 to qualify for the Olympic qualification tourmanent. That can happen in my opinion. The key match will be against the Norwegians, as I mentioned earlier. If we win, we are in the top12 (main round). I think we can win some matches there, and can reach something about 6th-10th place.

Prediction: 1 Spain 2 France 3 Germany... 7 Hungary :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 19, 2007, 03:10:06 PM
Quote from: CTG on January 19, 2007, 02:57:08 PM
Muhahahahahhaa, Akoss!!! As I predicted:

Boston Bruins - Pittsburgh Penguins 5-4  :P

After shootout, so the Pens also get a point, while Boston gets 2.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on January 19, 2007, 03:44:33 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on January 19, 2007, 02:58:54 PM
Prediction: 1 Spain 2 France 3 Germany... 7 Hungary :)

Well, I'm optimistic: 1. France, 2. Germany, 3. Spain, ..., 6. Hungary. Denmark? 11. - 15.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 19, 2007, 03:48:24 PM
Quote from: JTK on January 19, 2007, 03:44:33 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on January 19, 2007, 02:58:54 PM
Prediction: 1 Spain 2 France 3 Germany... 7 Hungary :)
Well, I'm optimistic: 1. France, 2. Germany, 3. Spain, ..., 6. Hungary. Denmark? 11. - 15.
I prefer JTK's prediction. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 19, 2007, 05:45:59 PM
Nah, I think Denmark will probably win the tournament. We are coming with a strong, underrated team without serious injuries. Besides, Denmark will be playing in Kiel, which is only 60 km from the danish border (and many of the players play in the german league for a living). Almost home advantage.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on January 19, 2007, 08:23:59 PM
Jacky, I am really sorry - Danish players may be strong but not playing together in their national team. No way. :P

Well the first game was hard - hectcs and lot of whatever made us win against the Brazilians. Good. Not a nice game but a happy ending. :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 21, 2007, 01:58:04 AM
It sucked.... I turned on the television for 1 minute and it was 22-18 for Denmark. I thought "oh good, we're going to win", and then it turns out we lost...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Usrin on January 21, 2007, 09:29:06 AM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on January 21, 2007, 01:58:04 AM
It sucked.... I turned on the television for 1 minute and it was 22-18 for Denmark. I thought "oh good, we're going to win", and then it turns out we lost...

You bet wrong. :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 21, 2007, 10:13:16 AM
B group :

Yesterday :
Iceland 45-20 Australia :o
France 32-21 Ukraine ;)

Today :
Australia - France
Ukraine - Iceland

I can't believe France could loose today after the atonishing result of Australia versus Iceland. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on January 21, 2007, 11:02:36 AM
Quote from: CTG on January 21, 2007, 03:08:44 AM
Don't cry Jacky, you will probably beat Angola! :P
:D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 21, 2007, 05:19:36 PM
57 minutes, 46-10 for France versus Australia. This is even worse for Australian guys than versus Iceland. :D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 21, 2007, 07:19:18 PM
Maybe 12 teams would be enough for the world cup...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 21, 2007, 07:22:23 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoeMaybe 12 teams would be enough for the world cup...
I'm not so sure : if small teams never have the oportunity to play versus good teams, how will they progress ? ::)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on January 21, 2007, 08:43:22 PM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on January 21, 2007, 07:22:23 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoeMaybe 12 teams would be enough for the world cup...
I'm not so sure : if small teams never have the oportunity to play versus good teams, how will they progress ? ::)

So do I think - it's a great opportunity for not-so-famous-handball-nations to be seen.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 21, 2007, 10:45:16 PM
B group :
Iceland 45-20 Australia :)
France 32-21 Ukraine ;)
Australia 10-47 France ;D
Ukraine 32-29 Iceland :o Surprise of the day !

France is already qualified for next step.
But Iceland, theorically the 2nd of the group before the handball WC started, will probably be eliminated now... Except if they beat France (which will not happen). 8)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 21, 2007, 11:12:58 PM
Denmark - Hungary 29:30
Hungary - Norway 25:22

Hungary won the group, despite they was only the "third strongest" team when the draw had been made.

Advanced to the next round, we have to face the next opponents (probably): Russia, Croatia, Czech Republic and Spain. Damn, that will be a tough one... I guess we can beat the Czechs, and maybe the Russians, the other two matches will be tricky... The other group is way easier, Slovenia, Poland, Tunisia, Ukraine for the 3rd place... ridiculous... how could they done this?
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on January 22, 2007, 09:04:45 AM
Ah - Christian Schwarzer will nbe back in the German team today, that means half final at least!

I am very happy to see Denmark agains Norway today, because they need to win to get into the main round. In Kiel half of the Ostsee Hall is filled with Danish spectators, great. I wonder if I can recognize some of the "Borsodis" today...  ;)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 22, 2007, 10:17:03 AM
Have a nice match JTK. It will be a sharp one like Hungary-Denmark was. Both teams can win.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on January 22, 2007, 10:39:36 AM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on January 22, 2007, 10:17:03 AM
Have a nice match JTK. It will be a sharp one like Hungary-Denmark was. Both teams can win.
Thanks. But will Hungary - Angola also be that hard...?  ;)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 22, 2007, 10:57:04 AM
Predictions for today's matches:

Group E:
Hungary-Angola 38:24
Denmark-Norway 30:23

Group A:
Kuwait-Greenland 28:25
Tunisia-Slovenia 26:30

Group B:
Ukraine-Australia 39:17
France-Iceland 29:24

Group C:
Germany-Poland 31:20
Brazil-Argentina 22:23

Group D:
Egypt-Qatar 35:19
Spain-Czech Republic 31:24

Group F:
Morocco-Republic of Korea 27:27
Croatia-Russia 30:28
Title: Handball World Cup 2007
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 22, 2007, 12:30:21 PM
Why France can win the men handball World Cup ?
- France is Europe champion, :)
- France is World champion each 6 years (1995, 2001 => 2007 ;D),
- World Cup is in Germany and numerous French players play in Germany, so it's almost like playing at home stadiums for France. :P

Why France can't win the men handball World Cup ?
- Spain want a revenge of European championship, ::)
- Germany plays at home, 8)
- Denmark plays almost at home, ;)
- Russia, Croatia and Hungary are always difficult to beat, :-X
- German beer will make French players drunk. :D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 22, 2007, 07:15:19 PM
Germany - Poland 25:27 OOOOOPS!!! What a surprise!

Hungary leads 26:23 that's also far from impressive, against Angola...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 22, 2007, 07:27:53 PM
31:29 WHAT THE skid???!!!  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 22, 2007, 07:46:42 PM
It's no surprise that Hungary is taking it very easy in this match, to save strength for the next round.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 22, 2007, 08:18:51 PM
34:31 in the end. 4 of our key players sat on the bench throughout the whole match. Yes, power had to be remained for the oncoming matches, so we took it a bit (too) easy.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 22, 2007, 08:43:50 PM
France-Iceland 8:18!!!  ::)
Title: Handball World Cup
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 22, 2007, 08:53:36 PM
Quote from: Akoss PooPredictions for today's matches:
Group B:
Ukraine-Australia 39:17
Nice tip : Ukraine 37-18 Australia ;)

Quote from: Akoss PooFrance-Iceland 8:18!!!  ::)
Yes, this is half-time. We still have time to take back the lead...
I can't believe it...
but of course this is also because France is already qualified and that Iceland need a victory to be qualified as Ukraine won versus Australia.


Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 22, 2007, 08:57:51 PM
But with losing against Iceland, France won't carry any points into the main round... So they have to do something really special to avoid this...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 22, 2007, 09:33:17 PM
Too late, 24-32 for Iceland....

Denmark - Norway 18-19 :-S not looking good...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 22, 2007, 09:39:17 PM
23-22... exciting!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 22, 2007, 09:49:09 PM
aaaand Denmark wins :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 22, 2007, 10:32:21 PM
We're going to the same one?
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 22, 2007, 11:04:55 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoeToo late, 24-32 for Iceland....
Yep, there was a reaction at the beginning of 2nd half but then Abati got a red card. With one less player, France lost versus an opponent that had no other choice than winning to be qualified. Iceland players' motivation was underestimated by French team.
Hopefully, our group is not as strong ad the other one, it should help France to reach semi-finals anyway (or so I hope).
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 23, 2007, 07:45:52 AM
Group standings

Group ABC:
Slovenia, Iceland and Poland: 2 pts
Germany, France and Tunisia: 0 pts

Group DEF:
Hungary, Croatia and Spain: 2 pts
Denmark, Russia and Czech Republic: 0 pts

My tips for final main round group standings:

1 France 8 pts
2 Germany 6pts
3 Slovenia 6 pts
4 Iceland 6 pts
5 Poland 3 pts
6 Tunisia 1 pts

1 Spain 10 pts
2 Croatia 8 pts
3 Denmark 4 pts
4 Hungary 4 pts
5 Russia 4 pts
6 Czech Republic 0 pts
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 23, 2007, 02:09:48 PM
Are there quarter finals or only directly semi finals?
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 23, 2007, 04:43:02 PM
If I remember it well, it's direct to semi-finals for best 2 of each group and classification match for eliminated ones.
Teams already eliminated after 1st round will play the President Cup.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 23, 2007, 05:23:01 PM
Wow, then it will really be hard to qualify for the semi finals... Denmark should have considered winning against Hungary to get those extra 2 points for the next round.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 23, 2007, 07:44:34 PM
No, you are wrong. Only top4 is needed in the main round groups; there will be quarter finals.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 24, 2007, 12:29:46 AM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on January 23, 2007, 07:44:34 PM
No, you are wrong. Only top4 is needed in the main round groups; there will be quarter finals.
Oh, ok, sorry for the mistake. :-X
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 24, 2007, 05:46:20 PM
4 out of 4 for Hungary: Hungary - Czech Republic 28-25

we led by 10 goals during the match, but in the end, the lead was reduced to 3... no problem, 2 points are in the pocket... croatia is next!!!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 24, 2007, 09:25:01 PM
Spain remain favorite of group 2. Another victory for them, versus Russia this time.

About group 1, I was a little bit afraid that French players had still in mind the defeat versus Iceland (12-11 for Poland at half-time). But the real French team was seen on 2nd half and that's a victory 31-22 for France. I feel better now.

Iceland remains surprising, beating Tunisia and therefore taking the lead of group 1 so far. Maybe that's the proof that Tunisia's performance on last World Cup was mainly due to referee's favors... ::)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 24, 2007, 11:34:11 PM
Denmark - Croatia 26 - 28

0 points are in the pocket  :'(
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 25, 2007, 10:00:16 AM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on January 24, 2007, 11:34:11 PM
Denmark - Croatia 26 - 28

0 points are in the pocket  :'(
And you will have problem to earn any more point today versus Spain...
Only hope for Denmark : beat Russia and Czech Republic in the last 2 days of the 2nd round and then get the 4th place.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 25, 2007, 11:41:47 AM
A single point can ensure Hungary's spot in the quarter finals on the following 3 matches, against Croatia, Spain and Russia. I hope it will be today, against Croatia, and we can play on the last 2 main round matches without any burden.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 25, 2007, 11:58:09 AM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on January 25, 2007, 11:41:47 AM
A single point can ensure Hungary's spot in the quarter finals on the following 3 matches, against Croatia, Spain and Russia. I hope it will be today, against Croatia, and we can play on the last 2 main round matches without any burden.
I fear for you that the only possible Hungarian win is versus Russia on the last day of this round...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on January 25, 2007, 12:47:36 PM
Sorry, I was ill... :( Now I'm a little bit late. Wasn't it a GREAT game yesterday, Germany against Slovakia? Oh my God! 8)

But last monday was great, too. The Hungarians played very easy, trying to waste no power, just to win (what they did). The team then presented a bis sign saying "Thank you, Kiel". You were ever so welcome! :)

Then came the Danish.Norwegian game - it was so loud, unbelievable! I sat within a big bunch of drunken, shouting Danish people togethger with a friend. We came to our seats shouting "Norway, Norway", but the Danish fans simply laugehd at us as thes saw our grinnings. ;) The game was so hot! In the second half we sazt there like "Denmark is the main round." "Now Norway." "No, Denmark."Norway." "Denmark." ...

It was a great party, and here are some pics from my mobile phone:
1. Here is the Hungarian team (left) and the Angolan, listening to the anthems.
2. Hungarian attack on poor Angolans.
3. Here come the Scandinavians (Denmark left).
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on January 25, 2007, 12:49:32 PM
4. - 6.: Danish party (I like the last picture)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 25, 2007, 11:15:18 PM
Quote from: CTG on January 25, 2007, 11:09:37 PM
First loss against Croatia: we expected that but it still hurts. Let's hope a better performance against Spain and Russia.
Denmark showed you the way to beat Spain. But Danish team had no other choice but winning to hope to be in quarter-finals.

Nice fight in group 1 too and a good victory for France versus Slovenia, with a good goal-average (33-19) that makes France now leader of group 1. :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 25, 2007, 11:34:06 PM
We beat Spain?? WOOHOO  ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 25, 2007, 11:49:04 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on January 25, 2007, 11:34:06 PM
We beat Spain?? WOOHOO  ;D
Yes : Denmark 27 - 23 spain ;)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 26, 2007, 01:15:33 AM
Miserable offensive play by Team Hungary today, and a lot of technical errors. I saw the match, we were very anxious, and we just couldn't believe that we could beat Croatia. We had the chances, Croatia also made a lot of mistakes, and our defensive play was fair enough. Denmark beat Spain, that's bad news for us, there's big confusion, we will have to beat Russia on the final day (or Spain, tomorrow)...

Hungary-Croatia 18-25
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on January 26, 2007, 10:17:14 AM
O.K., Tunesia was beaten with  not much effort - but tomorrow the first real heavy challenge is there Germany - France. Always a heavy match. :) I do not dare to predict...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 26, 2007, 12:18:34 PM
Quote from: JTKtomorrow the first real heavy challenge is there Germany - France. Always a heavy match. :) I do not dare to predict...
Lemme do it for you : Germany 24-28 France ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on January 26, 2007, 12:36:25 PM
Nope. Maybe 30-30.  ::)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 26, 2007, 12:51:30 PM
Quote from: JTK on January 26, 2007, 12:36:25 PM
Nope. Maybe 30-30.  ::)
Well, maybe because Germany plays at home... But I hope not. :P
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 26, 2007, 06:46:22 PM
Germany will win that match. 29-26.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 28, 2007, 01:10:14 AM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on January 26, 2007, 06:46:22 PM
Germany will win that match. 29-26.
Marvelous tip from Jacky. :o
France is qualified anyway as Poland won versus Tunisia. :)
Tunisia is already eliminated, therefore quarter-finals will look as European championship and not World Championship !!! ;D No team ouside Europe remain in top 8.
Sadly for France, even if we beat Tunisia (how France can lose versus Tunisia ?), France will have to face Spain or Croatia in quarter-finals. It will be hard !!! :-\

In the 2nd group, winner of Russia-Hungary will be in quarter-finals for sure. Small advantage to Hungary for the moment as a draw could be sufficient to eliminate Russia.

One question : if Russia win and if Denmark loose versus Czech (who are already eliminated), who will be qualified ? In this case it would mean that Hungary beat Denmark (this is already known, it happened during 1st round), Denmark beat Russia (26-24 the 27th of January) and Russia beat Hungary. what can make the difference ? Goal-average or results versus other teams will count ? ::)
Of course, the best would be to see Hungary and Denmark win. ;)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 28, 2007, 01:42:33 PM
The medias say we have qualified for the Quarter Finals, but I haven't really considered that option...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 28, 2007, 01:44:09 PM
Whoa, I actually tipped the result of Germany - France exactly right?

Hmm, I should have placed a bet then...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 28, 2007, 07:50:06 PM
BASSZA MEG A KURVA ISTEN FASZA!!!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 28, 2007, 08:30:00 PM
Hungary lost?  :'(
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 28, 2007, 08:45:47 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on January 28, 2007, 08:30:00 PM
Hungary lost?  :'(
Russia 26-25 Hungary.
Both teams have 4 points and a goal-average of -6. But as in direct confrontation Russia won, then only a big defeat of Denmark tonight could make Hungary qualified.
So far, Denmark has 4 points but +3 of goal-average.
If Denmark loose tonight versus Czech Republic then I think Denmark is eliminated because Hungary beat Denmark in direct confrontation. Else, Denmark and Russia are qualified I think.

Group 1 : France will be 4th of the group, even with a victory as direct fight versus Iceland (the only other team with 6 points) was a defeat for France.
Therefore, It will be France-Croatia next tuesday... I'm afraid France will be eliminated in quarter-finals : Croatia seems invicible since the beginning of this World Championship. :-\
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 28, 2007, 08:50:48 PM
Naaaah Krys. Now Russia have 4 pts, Hungary also 4, Denmark have 4 without the Czech match. If Denmark loses against the Czechs, this situation will stay. Matches against each other count:

DEN-RUS 26-24
RUS-HUN 26-25
DEN-HUN 29-30

So: Denmark +1, Hungary 0, Russia -1 --->>> 2. Spain 3. Denmark 4. Hungary 5. Russia

If Denmark steals a point, they'll have 5, so 2. Spain 3. Denmark 4. Russia 5. Hungary

If Denmark wins, they'll have 6, like the Spainsh, and because Denmark beat Spain: 2. Denmark 3. Spain 4. Russia 5. Hungary
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 28, 2007, 11:38:08 PM
Maybe we would, but we won't. Probably we would have kicked.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 29, 2007, 12:24:38 AM
You listed Denmark as winner over Hungary, which is not true.

HUN > DEN
RUS > HUN
DEN > RUS

It would become a question of goal difference. So, let me check if Denmark won :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 29, 2007, 12:25:28 AM
We did. Sorry Hungary :(

But this means we take 2nd place in the group, and don't have to play Germany or France in the quarter! That's great. Iceland will also be hard, but not impossible.

Poor Croatia winning the group and getting France...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 29, 2007, 12:40:12 AM
I corrected the DEN-HUN result, but the sentences I wrote about the evaluation of the situation was totally right. Denmark won and took 2nd place, yes. I guess at least 3 out of 4 teams in our group will reach the semi finals, that was much much stronger a group. I wonder what would the Group I winner Poland do against Hungary (in december we beat them 28-17 in Poland)... or Iceland... there are 2 weaker teams than Hungary which are in the quarter finals, and Hungary can only play for 9th place on Tuesday, against Slovenia...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 29, 2007, 01:24:09 AM
Quote from: BonzaiJoePoor Croatia winning the group and getting France...
Yes, they should have been 2nd of their group. :D

Quarter-finals will be :
Spain - Germany (that will be hard, this match could be a final match)
Poland - Russia (Russia should qualify)
Croatia - France (almost a final too, it will be very hard for France)
Iceland - Denmark (If Danish continue to play seriously, they should win without problems)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 29, 2007, 01:29:36 AM
And who will play who in the semi-finals?
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on January 29, 2007, 10:28:43 AM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on January 29, 2007, 01:29:36 AM
And who will play who in the semi-finals?

Germany - Denmark then...  ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 29, 2007, 11:03:33 AM
Naaaah. Semi finals: GER/ESP vs. CRO/FRA and ISL/DEN vs. POL/RUS
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 29, 2007, 12:09:14 PM
Quote from: Akoss PooNaaaah. Semi finals: GER/ESP vs. CRO/FRA and ISL/DEN vs. POL/RUS
This will mean that France will have to beat Croatia, then Spain ( :P JTK) and finally Denmark to be World Champion. ;D This is a dirty job but someone's got to do it. :D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Mislav on January 29, 2007, 08:32:59 PM
Naaah... thanks for your offer Krys, but France doesn't have to do that dirty job. Croatia will do it :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 29, 2007, 10:21:13 PM
It's too bad for Croatia that all the three other favourites have played crappily... They will just have to keep winning, that always works.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 30, 2007, 04:24:20 PM
Other sports info : Jan Ullrich career is finished. He asked his lawyers to request that blood bags taken in "Puerto  affair" are not compared to his own blood.
It's like officially admitting that he was doped.
Another cheater. One more, and not the last.

Pffff, only cross-cycling is interesting and fair, road cycling is full of junkies.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 30, 2007, 05:45:07 PM
Quote from: CTG on January 30, 2007, 03:36:10 PM
Oh my God, even Slovenia will beat us... Half-time: Hungary - Slovenia 16 - 16
It was hard for Hungary, but they managed to win :
Hungary 34-33 Slovenia
;)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 30, 2007, 05:49:27 PM
Too bad, I liked Jan Ullrich :(

But they are all cheaters anyway, and consequently they are all not cheaters, somehow...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 30, 2007, 05:52:49 PM
Why is Sweden not participating in the World Cup? Aren't they usually one of the best teams?
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 30, 2007, 06:12:07 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on January 30, 2007, 05:52:49 PM
Why is Sweden not participating in the World Cup? Aren't they usually one of the best teams?
They used to be top of the top, yes.
But their new generation of player seems really worst than the previous one as they did nothing good in the last years.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 30, 2007, 06:19:43 PM
Handball WC 1/4 finals, half-time results :
Spain 12 - 15 Germany
Poland 16 - 14 Russia

Who said that teams of 1st group (Poland and Germany in this case) were worst than those of 2nd group ? ::) :P
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 30, 2007, 07:20:54 PM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on January 30, 2007, 06:19:43 PM
Handball WC 1/4 finals, half-time results :
Spain 12 - 15 Germany
Poland 16 - 14 Russia

Who said that teams of 1st group (Poland and Germany in this case) were worst than those of 2nd group ? ::) :P
This is confirmed : group 1 has never been weaker than group 2.
Spain 25 - 27 Germany
Poland 28 - 27 Russia

Any comment Akoss...? ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 30, 2007, 07:32:12 PM
Well, it was #1 and #2 from Group A playing #3 and #4 from Group B...

I'm happy about the results though. Then I want Denmark to beat Iceland and.... I won't tell my hopes for Croatia vs France because at least one person would get mad at me in any case :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Mislav on January 30, 2007, 08:10:58 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on January 30, 2007, 07:32:12 PM
Well, it was #1 and #2 from Group A playing #3 and #4 from Group B...

I'm happy about the results though. Then I want Denmark to beat Iceland and.... I won't tell my hopes for Croatia vs France because at least one person would get mad at me in any case :)

hahaha, don't be afraid BJ, it's a positive madness! "At least 1 person" means minimum one person...Croatia has maximum one person here on the forum (that's me :) , so I guess you don't want Krys or maybe Alain to get mad...

but first, it's time now for me and Krys to be very mad to each other, the match France:Croatia starts right now....AAARRRGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! :)

P.S. Krys, don't forget to send the replay BEFORE the deadline ;)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Mislav on January 30, 2007, 09:35:38 PM
AAAAAAAAAaaAAaaaaaarrrghhhHHhHHHHhhH!!!! !  ??? !!!!   !!!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 30, 2007, 09:38:10 PM
Poor Croatia :(

Denmark - Iceland 34 - 34 :-S

I'm glad I don't have a TV.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 30, 2007, 10:57:56 PM
Aaaaah. finally French players made a match according to their European champion title.

Sorry Mislav. Mmmm, well, to be honest I'm not sorry. ;D :P

So, results are :
Croatia 18 - 21 France (it never happened that Croatia scored only 18 goals. Thierry Omeyer (French goalkeeper) did a marvelous match)
Iceland 41 - 42 Denmark after extended time.
Only Denmark remains from the so-called-super-strong group 2. :P

Next to come :
France - Germany (the revenge from group 1 match. It will be as hard as Spain-Germany or Croatia-France. The winner of this match will have 90% chance to be champion)
Poland-Denmark (the weaker semi-finals)
I'd like to see France beat Denmark in the final. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 31, 2007, 09:03:33 AM
Quote from: CTGOther sports
Mmmm, tell me : why do you stop talking about handball while WC isn't finished ? ;D :P
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on January 31, 2007, 12:28:49 PM
No, GER - DAN  :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 31, 2007, 01:04:26 PM
No, FRA - DAN or FRA - POL. Whatever as long as France wins. :P
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 31, 2007, 01:11:34 PM
Among the cheaters of cycling sport, Jan Ullrich was my favourite, it's sad to hear that his career is ended.

I said Hungary can reach 6th-10th place in the World Cup, we managed to get 9th place, it's not a bad result, but after seeing the matches of the WC, it's also not a good one.

I think teams of Group II were very tired after almost all of the matches they played had been very close and tiring - qualified teams of Group I were lucky not only by playing against weaker teams, but with this, also playing less tiring games, as it seems. This is a strange WC, the best team, Spain is already out, with Croatia is also out.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 31, 2007, 01:26:53 PM
Some Spanish comments regharding referees after their defeat versus Germany :

Quote from: David Barrufet (Spanish goalkeeper)This is the biggest robbery I ever seen (...) Victory was decided by referees
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 01, 2007, 03:50:48 PM
Handball is not my favorite sport but this time I watched the games and hoped we can send home Russia. As far as I see this one is/was the most popular handball event ever for Hungary.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 01, 2007, 05:16:30 PM
Female handball - again.
Damn it - again.

Gy?ri Audi ETO sucked against Dunaferr by 3 goals. G?rbicz was the only good player from our team. Without her we would be just listfillers.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 01, 2007, 07:23:55 PM
Go Germany, go!!!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 01, 2007, 07:40:59 PM
VICTORY!!! ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 01, 2007, 08:20:40 PM
Congratulations to Germany!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on February 01, 2007, 08:21:28 PM
JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!  ;) :) :D ;D 8)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 01, 2007, 08:22:36 PM
French team took a french leave. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 01, 2007, 08:47:41 PM
Poland 15 - 14 Denmark, at half time.

Looks like another nail-biter...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 01, 2007, 09:10:16 PM
My best hope:


1 Germany
2 Poland
3 Denmark
4 France
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 01, 2007, 09:36:16 PM
I'm missing some smileys here...

Well, another extra-time, 26-26... The matches are really close at this world-cup.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 01, 2007, 10:15:19 PM
And...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 01, 2007, 10:23:10 PM
Poland wins  :'(
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 01, 2007, 10:54:49 PM
Yeah, the expected final. ;D

Average Hungarian likes Germany. And on the other hand Hungarian-Polish friendship is quite strong.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Mislav on February 01, 2007, 11:24:41 PM
Croatia has beaten the actual world champion Spain...for the second time this week! And we can go highest on place Nr5. With 9 wins and 1 lost match :(

Poor Denmark....and au revoir Krys ;)

but.... DEUTSCHLAND DEUTSCHLAND!!!!

JTK should be given the "Best-Stunts-Handballer" award! :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on February 02, 2007, 12:29:27 AM
As I told before, Sweden used to be the best in handball. Now it's over, including their referees.

Why in Hell last goal of Guigou is refused and the ball given back to France ? There was not enough time to score and it was obviously the best way to let Germany win.
Let me explain : if Guigou made a fault, the goal is refused and the ball is given to Germany. Logical. esle, Guigou made no fault, so goal is valid and the 2 teams go to penalty session.
So, why the gaol is refused and the ball given back to France ?

It was not the only mistakes of the Swedish referees : numerous faults were missed, for both sides. Hens has been excluded very severely at the beginning of the match for Germany for example, and some penalties has been forgotten by the referees in my opinion.

One last problem with the referees : the "hands up" management (I don't know the english name for this rule). Let me explain it then for those who don't know it : when the team with the ball is too long before shooting, the referees put the arms up to let this team know they have only a few seconds remaining before shooting or else they loose the ball.
This rule has been applied for France strictly (no problem, it's the rule) but it seems to me that 3 or 4 times the referees forgot to apply it to Germany...

Anyway it was a great match, a real final. Both teams played hard, both Kiel goalkeepers were excellent.

Germany had more occasion to score but they missed the goal a lot. On the other hand, France was more efficient to score when they could shoot but German efficient defence made us hard to shoot.

Now, Poland will loose in final, that's sure. The match between Germany and France was the real final after Croatia and Spain elimination.

That's the 3rd time in a row that France loose in semi-finals in the handball WC after 2003 and 2005. Too bad but after such a match there's no regret to have, both teams played their best.
Now, let's beat Denmark to get the bronze medal !
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 02, 2007, 11:14:50 AM
On the forum of the Hungarian sports newspaper, all comments are against the referees (who were with Germany in the Spain match, too) and against Germany: in their opinion France was better and played better handball yesterday. They say words on the referees like: disgusting, dirty, cheater, "interesting"; on the German players: selfish, gypsy. Average Hungarian likes Germany and doesn't like the French, but a guy on this forum said, for the very first time in his life, he was cheering for France against the cheater Germans (after the Spainsh match).

Well, it's not my opinion, and I won't say anything, because I missed both matches (GER-ESP, GER-FRA) - but I saw DEN-POL - I just quoted some opinions from an unbiased (non-German, non-French) forum.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 02, 2007, 11:20:19 AM
Btw I'm always saying in this WCH "that will be the match when the not-so-good Polish team will collapse and discontinue causing surprises", but no, never... they're winning the matches... so now I'm not saying anything before the final. Polish are the biggest friends of Hungary, so I hope Poland will win the gold medal.

Btw I just want to remind you, one month ago, in Poland, in the final of the ordinary (played each year) Christmas Cup (HUN-POL-CZE-SVK):

Poland-Hungary 18-29...

Hungary won the Cup with this, Poland finished 2nd.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on February 02, 2007, 01:14:30 PM
Quote from: Akoss PooOn the forum of the Hungarian sports newspaper, all comments are against the referees (who were with Germany in the Spain match, too) and against Germany: in their opinion France was better and played better handball yesterday. They say words on the referees like: disgusting, dirty, cheater, "interesting"; on the German players: selfish, gypsy. Average Hungarian likes Germany and doesn't like the French, but a guy on this forum said, for the very first time in his life, he was cheering for France against the cheater Germans (after the Spainsh match).
I also missed Germany-Spain but I saw Germany-France and the referees did numerous mistakes. Not only at Germany's advantage, but their worst mistake is the finish when the French goal is refused and the ball given back to France. This is illogical. On the TV I saw no fault, but if the referees saw a fault (I always consider that the referees should be considered as the law on every sport, it's a question of respect and fair-play) then the ball should have been given to Germany, not to France. The referees' decision is therefore a real problem that should be discussed in order to avoid that kind of problems in the future.
As a French I'm disappointed with the decision but I won't consider German players as cheaters. Even them were disappointed by the last decision of the referees : France shouted because a valid goal was refused and Germany shouted because if goal is refused then the ball should have been given to them and not to France.


Quote from: Akoss Pooin their opinion France was better and played better handball yesterday
Difficult to say.
France was more efficient when shooting than Germany and had more creativity I think, but German had a better defence that gave problems to let France shoot. Germany made also more faults than France but France lost stupidly half a dozen of balls in the midfield. This is not acceptable at this level of competition.

When Germany lost the ball it was because of French pressure (like on the last goal refused by the referees) or because they missed a shot. German players made no mistakes when passing the ball between them, France did.

So, I won't say that a team was better than another, both teams played a high-level handball but they both made mistakes that made the score so sharp (France lost too much balls and Germany did numerous shoots outside the goal).
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 02, 2007, 02:40:34 PM
"Selfish", "Gypsy" ?   :D

I love the very reasonable Hungarian press  :D


Seriously, if a paper wrote something like that in Denmark, there would be a major uproar and they would be publicly disgraced and lose buyers.

About "the last goal" in France - Germany: I didn't watch the match, but couldn't the case have been this:

1. A german player makes a foul
2. Referee blows the whistle and the game is stopped
3. Guigou scores

In this case, he scored when the game was not being played (in theory, the german players could have stopped defending - this probably didn't happen because it all went very fast, but that is a quantitative problem). So the goal didn't happen, and the game was resumed giving France the ball.
But I really wouldn't know...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 02, 2007, 02:51:38 PM
It wasn't the press! There's a web page of the newspaper, and there everybody can write comments on the articles, or in the forum. Some Hungarian people, not the Hungarian press wrote "selfish" and "gypsy", the journalists wrote only that Germany needed some help from the referees during the end of the match (which referred mostly to that disallowed goal).

Even in Hungary there would be a big scandal if the press had wrote something like the handball fans wrote in the forum.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on February 02, 2007, 03:16:08 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoeAbout "the last goal" in France - Germany: I didn't watch the match, but couldn't the case have been this:

1. A german player makes a foul
2. Referee blows the whistle and the game is stopped
3. Guigou scores

In this case, he scored when the game was not being played (in theory, the german players could have stopped defending - this probably didn't happen because it all went very fast, but that is a quantitative problem). So the goal didn't happen, and the game was resumed giving France the ball.
No, it didn't happened like that. Referees let Guigou play and only after the goal was scored they decide to annulate it. I still don't know why.
Whatever, same kind of referee problem happened to France versus Germany in 2003. WC semi-final as yesterday : France led by 3 goals when Jackson Richardson got 2 minutes penalty for unknown and purely imaginative reason, 2 minutes and a half before deadline. This was enough for Germany to come back in the match and finally win by one point with one more player compared to France.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 02, 2007, 06:14:09 PM
Very strange indeed...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 02, 2007, 06:16:17 PM
By the way, in Denmark - Poland it also happened that Lars Christiansen was suspended 2 minutes for a foul committed by Joachim Boldsen. But Denmark just played along with this, because Boldsen (which interestingly means "son of a ball") is a more important player
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 04, 2007, 05:42:09 PM
23-21 for Germany... my expected order of TOP4 seems to be correct. :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 04, 2007, 05:43:01 PM
24-22 at 49:50...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 04, 2007, 05:46:43 PM
Still 24-22 at 52:53...  :o
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 04, 2007, 05:48:26 PM
Now I understand why Kalpen.de hasn't been updated yet :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 04, 2007, 05:50:00 PM
28-23 at 56:17, I think Germany is the world champion for sure.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 04, 2007, 05:52:06 PM
Poland gave it up at the end...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 04, 2007, 05:56:21 PM
Quote from: CTG on February 01, 2007, 09:10:16 PM
My best hope:


1 Germany
2 Poland
3 Denmark
4 France

Done! ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 04, 2007, 06:08:47 PM
Congratulations to Germany for winning the world championship!

((now let's have the Kalpen results ;)(small chance, as JTK will be drinking huge amounts of Dittmarscher Urtyp with his friends :)))
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 04, 2007, 06:27:21 PM
Team Germany didn't deserve this victory. They were the better team in the final, but in the semi final and the quarter final... I only read comments like "cheater Germans" and "sports is business and not a game", "the team won which had to win the WC", "abroad Germany would have finished even out of top4"... and nowhere "the best team won the WC"...

Croatia or France should have won the WC.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 04, 2007, 07:08:15 PM
France, on the other hand, had a very dubious performance, and actually only played two good matches, as far as I can see (vs Croatia and vs Germany). They finished 4th in the group and sucked in the bronze match. I don't think they deserve the medals. I can agree about Croatia though, as they only flunked against France, and were supreme in the rest of the tournament.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on February 04, 2007, 07:23:53 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoeFrance, on the other hand, had a very dubious performance, and actually only played two good matches, as far as I can see (vs Croatia and vs Germany). They finished 4th in the group and sucked in the bronze match. I don't think they deserve the medals. I can agree about Croatia though, as they only flunked against France, and were supreme in the rest of the tournament.
France played the best when needed. Why winning all the games and loose in quarter-finals ? :P
Anyway, Franch players were obviously still disappointed by referees' judgement on last goal by Guigou that they completely missed the match versus Denmark. Especially the defence.
On the other hand, Denmark players were able to bypass their elimination in semi-finals and find back motivation than French players. So, the result of the match for 3rd place is logical.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 04, 2007, 07:28:23 PM
So:

1 Germany(&referees)
2 Poland
3 Denmark
4 France
5 Croatia
...
9 Hungary

Quite good WCH for Stuntsers - or for stuntsers who are interested in handball and attends forum.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Mislav on February 04, 2007, 09:29:22 PM
Congratulations Germany! JTK - stop partying and drinking and show us the ctr2006e results :P

...And Ivano Balic is the best player. He already was awarded as the best player in 2 last European Championships, Olympic games and now 2 Worldchampionships!!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 04, 2007, 11:24:41 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on February 04, 2007, 07:28:23 PM
So:

1 Germany(&referees)
2 Poland
3 Denmark
4 France
5 Croatia
...
9 Hungary

Quite good WCH for Stuntsers - or for stuntsers who are interested in handball and attends forum.

You forgot :)

13-24 Argentina
13-24 Brazil

I wish it was like this in Stunts  :D

And Krys: I agree France played well, I only don't see any kind of reason to assume they were generally better than Germany, as Akoss said.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 04, 2007, 11:37:09 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on February 04, 2007, 11:24:41 PM
You forgot :)

13-24 Argentina
13-24 Brazil

No, no, no. Argentina is 16th, Brasil is 19th. Check http://www.ihf.info ! :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on February 05, 2007, 02:07:01 PM
- nowords -
8)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on February 05, 2007, 02:09:13 PM
 oh-it-was-ever-so-great-and-still-is! The German TV is full of handball parties all around! :) Unluckliy I got really ill on Sturday but I was able to watch the game yesterday shaken by fever but enjoying it anyway. Today I'm a little bit better so I quicly updated kalpen.de. ;) And in my mind I drank really much of my belover Dithmarscher Urtyp!  ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on February 06, 2007, 12:10:06 PM
Today the German newspaper are writing about the French team - the trainer, saying that Germany just won because of the "German Mafia" and an attack of the French delegation agfainst a referee (because they thought, he was one of the Swedish referees in the GER-FRA game)... :(
(I couldn't find English articles of that, sorry!)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on February 06, 2007, 12:26:09 PM
Quote from: JTK on February 06, 2007, 12:10:06 PM
Today the German newspaper are writing about the French team - the trainer, saying that Germany just won because of the "German Mafia" and an attack of the French delegation agfainst a referee (because they thought, he was one of the Swedish referees in the GER-FRA game)... :(

  • http://www.spiegel.de/sport/sonst/0,1518,464389,00.html
  • http://www.spiegel.de/sport/sonst/0,1518,463904,00.html
(I couldn't find English articles of that, sorry!)
I also heard about that. "German mafia" is way too insultive in my opinion.
Referees did numerous mistakes, that's true, but I think both team would have deserved the draw. I really would have liked to see penalty sessions with the best 2 goalkeepers of the world, both playing at Kiel.

IMO, best team of the WC was Croatia. Regular, efficient, and no motivation loss after their defeat versus France. Not like unmotivated France versus Denmark at the 3rd place match. >:(
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 06, 2007, 03:29:37 PM
I don't know why does France make a problem from this? It's so natural that home team has advantage. Just remember football World Cup 1998 :P or 2002  >:( ...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on February 06, 2007, 05:32:08 PM
Quote from: CTGI don't know why does France make a problem from this? It's so natural that home team has advantage. Just remember football World Cup 1998 :P or 2002  >:( ...
Advantage for South Korea at WC 2002, yes : in quarter-finals. Else, not.

Advantage for France at Football WC 1998 ? Which match ? I don't remember any advantage except the public and motivation of course, but no referees' advantage.
France won this WC in 1998 because our defence, our midfield and our goalkeeper were at their best. And also with some luck : remember the match versus Italy and the penalty session. Goalkeeper Fabien Barthez made France qualified, else we would have been eliminated by Italy.
Our attack during WC 1998 sucked : numerous easy goals missed, mainly by Stephane Guivar'ch who was probably the worst forward of this WC and also because Christophe Dugarry was injured after the 1st match. Thierry Henry almost didn't play during this WC.
It was really a defence/midfield victory :
- who scored versus Denmark ? Youry Djorkaeff and Emmanuel Petit, 2 midfields.
- who scored the golden goal versus Paraguay ? Laurent Blanc, a defender.
- who scored to qualify us versus Croatia in semi-finals ? Lillian Thuram (twice), another defender.
- nobody scored versus Italy, the second best defence of this WC.
- who scored in final versus Brasil ? Zinedie Zidane and Emmanuel Petit, 2 midfields.
Our forwards managed to score only versus Saudi Arabia (Bixente Lizarazu, a defender, also scored during this match) and South Africa. Pathetic.
Overall, 14 goals (penalty session versus Italy doesn't count as real goals) : 5 from forwards (only versus the weakest teams), 5 from midfields, 4 from defenders (and 1 goal against his own team by a South African player that I don't count). 9 of 14 goals not scored by the forwards... Same thing in WC 2006 : 9 goals for France, only 3 from forwards and 6 from midfields but none from defenders.

On the other hand, referees' advantage for France happened in 2006 versus Portugal when they granted the penalty for France in semi-finals.

About handball WC, Spain also made complaints about referees for their match versus Germany in quarter-finals.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 06, 2007, 06:32:44 PM
Football WC 98: I also can't remember any referee help to France. They were just lucky. Against Paraguay, against Italy, and against Croatia. In the semi finals, Brazil and France won, the 2 luckier teams... Both the Netherlands and Croatia played better there. 2 good shoots from Thuram - where else did he stroke like that?

WC 2002: Obvious cheating against Italy and Spain for Team South Korea. No more explanation is needed, it's very sad that it could happen.

WC 2006: France got an undeserved penalty in the final, but I doubt that it was cheating, I guess it was only a mistake by the referee. Fortunately, it wasn't enough to beat Italy who became World Champions. But there was a big cheating - and yes, it was the host place, Germany. The WCH should have been organized in South Africa. But on the voting it was 13-12 to Germany. Later it turned out that one of the voters sold his vote to Germany. Without this, South Africa would have been the winner. Germany could keep the previously won right to organize the WC (it's ridiculous... but it's all about business)... but FIFA promised that WC 2010 will surely be somewhere in Africa.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 09, 2007, 08:42:21 AM
Dirty-smelly Pittsburgh Penguins!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 09, 2007, 01:10:40 PM
American Football...

[misses sleeping smiley]
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 09, 2007, 04:44:06 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on February 09, 2007, 01:10:40 PM
American Football...

[misses sleeping smiley]

LOL you really hate the big American leagues. Pittsburgh Penguins is an NHL team. Ice hockey. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 09, 2007, 09:06:30 PM
Oh well :) That just shows how much I care
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 13, 2007, 12:40:29 PM
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!

Philadelphia Flyers - Detroit Red Wings 6-1!!!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 13, 2007, 12:44:26 PM
Yep, we kicked ass. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 24, 2007, 06:53:17 PM
MKB Veszpr?m KC - THW Kiel 39-36

Well... this big rush caused a match with a lot of goals but with a close result, teams couldn't build up an advantage, it was a draw or 1-2 goals of lead for both teams in the majority of the match. In the second half of the second half, Veszpr?m improved on their defensive play, and took control of the match. This didn't mean that Veszpr?m took the lead by a few goals, but not because Kiel was good, rather because the stallin fucked dirty smelly cheater Danish referees (maybe they wanted to take revenge on Kolding's farewell to the Cup) punished the Hungarians undeservedly with a lot of penalties and there was also a lot of 7 meter shots against them... Despite this, Veszpr?m collected a 4 goal lead by the end, but in the end, Kiel scored again (what a surprise, in a man advantage situation). 3 goal is the advantage, but a lot of goals against (almost like a 2 goal advantage)... enough or not, it will turn out soon. I hold on to my opinion, 35% is the chance in this quarter final for Veszpr?m. It is more or less that I expected, but it would have been a victory with a bigger gap if the referees hadn't respected the Western European team (in the Hungarian sports forums, the usual topic is the production of the referees)...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: zaqrack on February 24, 2007, 07:29:28 PM
was there ever a match in any sport where Hungarians were satisfied with the referees?  :P :P :P



Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 24, 2007, 08:21:51 PM
Not really, we have bad sport diplomacy, which is very necessary in this business-based sports world of present.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on February 25, 2007, 12:51:34 PM
Grmpf - just you wait for Thursday...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 25, 2007, 06:41:07 PM
Quote from: zaqrack on February 24, 2007, 07:29:28 PM
was there ever a match in any sport where Hungarians were satisfied with the referees?  :P :P :P

Soooooooooooooooo expected comment...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 25, 2007, 09:32:48 PM
Female handball: Gy?ri Audi ETO qualified to Champions League quarterfinals!

Group's result:

1. HC "Lada Togliatti" 6 5 0 1 192 : 178 (14) 10
2. Gy?ri Audi ETO KC 6 4 0 2 189 : 161 (28) 8
3. Byasen HB Elite Trondheim 6 3 0 3 177 : 186 (-9) 6
4. ZRK Buducnost T-Mobile 6 0 0 6 141 : 174 (-33) 0
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 26, 2007, 11:50:10 AM
Forever Tampa Bay Lightning! :P

Tampa Bay Lightning - Pittsburgh Penguins 5-1 ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 26, 2007, 12:10:35 PM
Jan Ullrich retired!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on February 26, 2007, 04:44:32 PM
Quote from: CTGJan Ullrich retired!
After he asked for the blood analysis to be canceled, it was logical for him to stop. As long as these analysis were not done, he was suspected of doping, and so he would have been refused at all races.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on March 01, 2007, 05:35:27 PM
THW Kiel - MKB Veszpr?m tonight! I predict german victory by 4 goals and dirty refrees again. As long as Kiel can keep up with Veszpr?m, the refrees will help them to win.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on March 01, 2007, 10:51:29 PM
Damn, 7 goals... :(
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on March 02, 2007, 11:33:51 AM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on December 13, 2006, 05:04:00 PM
And I said only that won't be an easy job against Veszpr?m: I guess the aggregate difference won't be more than 3 goals to THW Kiel if THW Kiel goes through the semi finals. The chance for Veszpr?m is 35% to knock out Kiel in my opinion.

Well I think I was more or less right. I was mistaken only by a single goal - 4 goals to Kiel in aggregate. Veszpr?m had the chance by the way, but played with many annoying mistakes.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on March 02, 2007, 03:08:34 PM
 ;D
;D
;D
;D
;D
;D
;D
;D
;D
;D

8)

Well, the referees from Russia were really dirty but could not help Vesprem. It was a very nice game, the audience was so loud (we had to - the Hungarians were extremely loud just being 300 Persons). Aaah, that was very good beer yesterday evening! Campions league cup - we're coming!  ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on March 02, 2007, 08:21:31 PM
There was no problem with the refs, despite the more 7m shots to Kiel with more or less the same 2min exclusions. I can't understand JTK's bad words on the referees. I think the 4 goal difference more or less reflects the difference between the 2 teams - Kiel was better by 4 goals. I can wish to Kiel team now to win the trophy of the Champions' League! :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on March 05, 2007, 08:55:32 AM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on March 02, 2007, 08:21:31 PM
There was no problem with the refs, despite the more 7m shots to Kiel with more or less the same 2min exclusions. I can't understand JTK's bad words on the referees.
Did you watch the game? The referees didn't really see the Hungarian hidden actions, didn't see steps and so on on the Hungarian site. They were better in the second half, though.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on March 15, 2007, 12:31:23 PM
The best sports news I've read recently:

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?articleid=290484&page=NewsPage&service=page

And Pittsburgh played matches against the top 2 teams of Eastern Conference:

Pittsburgh-Buffalo 5-4, after shootout
New Jersey-Pittsburgh 0-3

Pittsburgh is lying in 4th place in the Conference, now I almost believe that they'll reach the playoff for the first time since 2000-01.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on March 22, 2007, 02:36:01 AM
Swimming and water polo world championship is in progress!

First match of our male water polo team against the sucker New Zealand:

Hungary - New Zealand 21-5 (5-1, 6-0, 3-2, 7-2)

Next one is Canada. Another "training" match I guess. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on March 22, 2007, 02:39:29 AM
Addition: the whole tournament is useless, we will see Hungary vs Serbia in the final with dirty refrees, one goal serbian victory and bloody fight in the pool.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on March 22, 2007, 01:38:54 PM
Oh my God, we killed Canada, we bastards! ;D

Hungary ? Canada 19-3 (4-1, 5-1, 4-0, 6-1)

Next step: dirty gipsyland (Romania) is coming, I predict 5 goals victory.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on March 22, 2007, 06:51:46 PM
Talking about water-polo, did you know that Lajos KISS, an Hungarian player who played in Senlis (France), died last saturday at 24 years old only ?
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on March 22, 2007, 08:35:36 PM
Nope and never heard about that guy. R.I.P.!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on March 28, 2007, 10:50:11 AM
Still water polo, world cup, quarter-final:

Hungary - Germany 13-6 (4-2, 1-0, 4-2, 4-2)

Beware Serbia, we are coming!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on March 28, 2007, 10:54:25 AM
Semi-finals:

Hungary - Spain (hard match, but our chance is about 70%)
Serbia - Croatia (easier one for the dirty serbian team, their chance is about 80%)

Final:

Hungary - Serbia 56%
Serbia - Spain 24%
Hungary - Croatia 14%
Croatia - Spain 6%
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on March 29, 2007, 09:29:59 PM
Michael Phelps eats steroids.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Usrin on March 29, 2007, 10:07:30 PM
Ice hockey, friendly match:

Hungary-Sweden 2-1, in overtime. :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on March 29, 2007, 11:04:28 PM
Quote from: CTGMichael Phelps eats steroids.
Creatine is legal in USA or UK, not in France. This may help Phelps, but Laure Manaudo do good results anyway (2 gold, 1 silver and one bronze medal so far) without beeing doped.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on March 29, 2007, 11:27:29 PM
Laure is a fuckable whore.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on March 30, 2007, 12:36:10 AM
Yes, yes, Laure Manaudou should twist on my dick, she is a chick with a huge penis enlarging ability! :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on March 30, 2007, 03:47:20 PM
Yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiihaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Serbia is out! Serbia is out!!! SERBIA IS OUT!!!

Croatia - Serbia 10-7 (3-1, 3-1, 2-1, 2-4)

And of course: WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! WE ARE IN THE FINAL TOO!!! Spain was a great opponent, although they got maximal help from the refrees.

Hungary - Spain 12-11 (3-2, 2-4, 4-1, 1-3, 2-1, 0-0)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on March 30, 2007, 05:27:17 PM
Quote from: CTGHungary - Spain 12-11 (3-2, 2-4, 4-1, 1-3, 2-1, 1-0)
Mmmm, it should be 13-11 and not 12-11 according to your score details. Or 1st extended time was 1-1, not 2-1 for Hungary.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on March 30, 2007, 06:05:16 PM
What the hell are you talking about? ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Chulk on March 30, 2007, 07:19:29 PM
Guillermo Ca?as def. Roger Federer for the 2nd time in few days. He defeated Robredo (6th on the ATP ranking) yesterday. Now Ljubicic comes. Go Willy!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on March 30, 2007, 08:04:57 PM
Quote from: CTG on March 30, 2007, 06:05:16 PM
What the hell are you talking about? ;D

Krys was right, last overtime period's result is 0-0.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on March 30, 2007, 09:11:17 PM
Check my message... :P
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on March 30, 2007, 10:11:36 PM
Yeaz - final in Champions League for THW! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on March 30, 2007, 11:05:48 PM
Quote from: CTGCheck my message... :P
Oh damn ! CTG edited a message instead of posting another in order to increase his spam level ! I can't believe it ! :o ;D :D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on March 31, 2007, 12:17:34 AM
Yep. :D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on March 31, 2007, 12:46:41 PM
Dirty doped american swimmers (Phelps & Co.), poor Laure Manaudou! Slap to Katie Ziegler!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on March 31, 2007, 03:44:46 PM
Quote from: CTGpoor Laure Manaudou!
Poor ? Not so poor : 2 individual gold medals, 2 individual silver medals, 1 team bronze medal. Quite a good world championship for her. Congrats to Laure. :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on March 31, 2007, 04:57:58 PM
Laure would deserve the golden medal of 800 meters freestyle too...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on April 01, 2007, 10:26:35 AM
Damn it's extra time, Croatia is going to win... :(
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on April 01, 2007, 10:42:35 AM
GIANT SLAP TO MISLAV!!!

Croatia won after extra time:

Hungary - Croatia 8-9 (2-1, 1-3, 3-1, 1-2, 1-1, 1-0)

I think we took the croatians too easy, that's why we sucked. Little fun of this tournament: I'm gloating upon the 4th place of Serbian team. :P
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on April 01, 2007, 11:42:47 AM
Dirty list after male 400 m individual medley:

Michael Phelps
Ryan Lochte
Luca Marin
Oussama Melluli
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on April 01, 2007, 12:03:54 PM
I can't be angry on L?szl? Cseh for finishing only 5th. It can be really demotivating to see sterophelps and other doped american assholes cheating for world records. Just imagine Mingva winning 7 ZSC races in a row with big gap against Argammon, Rotoi, Bonzai Joe, Gutix, Akoss Poo and me. Everybody would know the fact Mingva is cheating but you cannot prove it...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 01, 2007, 02:31:13 PM
I also hate the ultra doped Americans, Australians; but I think 4:15 for Cseh in the most important race of 2 years... it is deeply crap... I can be really angry at him, even Gyurta give more on this WCH. Cseh could be easily 2nd if everything goes right. I'm waiting for his "explanations"...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on April 02, 2007, 09:28:16 AM
Aaaah - where is the home of the two world best handball teams? Right: Schleswig-Holstein. THW Kiel and SG Flensburg-Handewitt will fight eagerly to get the Champions League Cup at the end of April! And I'm there! ;D 8)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 08, 2007, 01:24:09 AM
The Buffalo Sabres wins NHL Regular Season standings - now the playoff starts soon for the Stanley Cup. My favourite team, Pittsburgh Penguins will have to face the Ottawa Senators in the Conference Quarter Finals.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on April 09, 2007, 04:26:41 PM
Oh yes! Gy?ri Audi ETO KC (female handball) has won the Hungarian Cup by knocking out Ferencv?ros. We are the cup winners since 2005 and I hope we can continue winning the championships third time in a row.

Gy?ri Audi ETO KC - Budapest Bank FTC 35-28 (14-14)

Another thing: my favorite player, Anita G?rbicz scored 11 goals. Beautiful and talented. ;)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on April 09, 2007, 11:43:30 PM
Handball results - Paris (Bercy) tournament :

6th April:
Poland 36-32 Iceland
France 30-29 Tunisia (difficult match for France that still had in mind the defeat versus Germany in the World Cup)

7th April:
Poland 30-27 Tunisia (difficult match for Poland too versus Tunisia)
France 35-27 Iceland (nice revenge of the WC, French team progressively comes back to its best)

8th April :
Iceland 30-30 Tunisia (funny, these 2 teams managed not to win any match during this tournament)
France 26-20 Poland (very good match from France that finally got rid of the remembrance of the WC and a nice victory versus vice-World Champions of Poland)

I can't wait to see Olympic Games in China next year and a French victory in final versus Germany. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on April 13, 2007, 01:16:22 PM
Nobody talked of Judo European championship, so I will.
France was the winner, with 9 medals overall : 5 gold, 1 silver, 3 bronze. Cool. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 13, 2007, 02:37:51 PM
Division I ice hockey world championships will start on Sunday. In Hungary's group, the opponents will be: Slovenia, Lithuania (dirty Mingva!), Japan, Great Britain and Romania (dirty Romania!). My prediction for the final standings:

1 Slovenia
2 Japan
3 Hungary
4 Lithuania
5 Great Britain
6 Romania

Tips for the first day (15/4):

Hungary-Lithuania 4-3
Japan-Great Britain 3-1
Slovenia-Romania 8-0
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on April 13, 2007, 05:34:32 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo
Division I ice hockey world championships will start on Sunday. In Hungary's group, the opponents will be: Slovenia, Lithuania (dirty Mingva!), Japan, Great Britain and Romania (dirty Romania!). My prediction for the final standings:

1 Slovenia
2 Japan
3 Hungary
4 Lithuania
5 Great Britain
6 Romania
In the other division 1 group, there is France, Kazakhstan, Poland, Netherlands, Estonia and China.
Best of each group will qualify for elite world championship in Russia (27th April-13th May).

Sadly, Cristobal Huet (French goalkeeper who plays in Montreal, Canada) is still injured. It will be hard for France to be 1st in this group. Poland or Kazakhstan will be hard to beat. Let's hope it won't be like last year when France missed to come back to the elite after our defeat versus Germany...

Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 15, 2007, 01:26:37 PM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on April 13, 2007, 05:34:32 PMIn the other division 1 group, there is France, Kazakhstan, Poland, Netherlands, Estonia and China. Best of each group will qualify for elite world championship in Russia (27th April-13th May).

You are wrong: best of each group will qualify for elite world championship of NEXT YEAR.

In France's group, Kazakhstan is big favourite, my bet is on them.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 15, 2007, 01:42:15 PM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS!!! Estonia-France 4-3 after shootout!!!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 15, 2007, 05:02:38 PM
Lad?nyi, Kov?cs ---> 2-0 to Hungary after first period. skid you Mingva!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 15, 2007, 05:48:09 PM
Kov?cs, 23rd min., 3-0
Lad?nyi, 28th min., 4-0
Vaiciukevicius, 34th min., 4-1
Ocskay, 39th min., 5-1

Why was I afraid of this match? :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 15, 2007, 06:33:38 PM
Horv?th, 42nd min. (powerplay), 6-1

Easy victory:

Hungary - Lithuania 6-1 (2-0, 3-1, 1-0)

Surprise in the match in the afternoon:

Great Britain - Japan 4-3 (2-0, 2-1, 0-2)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 15, 2007, 07:50:53 PM
Anita G?rbicz's hair is getting longer and longer. Her penis erecting ability and beauty is rising with this fact.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 16, 2007, 10:40:59 AM
Yesterday:

Slovenia-Romania 10-1

My prediction for today:

Great Britain-Lithuania 3-4
Japan-Romania 6-2
Slovenia-Hungary 6-3
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on April 16, 2007, 05:25:00 PM
China 0-12 Kazakhstan :o
Estonia 3-3 France (3-1 penalty session, sad because France was leader 3-1 during the match...) :-\
Netherlands 3-4 Poland (after extended time)

Today :
Kazakhstan 2-1 Estonia
France 4-2 Netherlands
Poland ?-? China (not played yet it seems)

If France beat Poland and Poland beat Kazakhstan, then France will still have a chance. Else, it's already over for France.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 17, 2007, 12:21:56 AM
I think in Group A Estonia have a fair chance to finish second after beating France in a shootout (2 points for Estonia, 1 for France), and playing a relatively even game against hot favourites Kazakhstan.
I don't think the Polish have the power to beat Kazakhstan, but it will be a tough game for them against Estonia, too...

Today in our group:

Great Britain-Lithuania 2-3
Japan-Romania 6-5 (overtime)
Slovenia-Hungary 4-1

Predictions for Wednesday's game in our group:

Lithuania-Japan 2-4
Romania-Hungary 3-4 (always very very hard against them, though there's some difference between the teams in favour of Hungary)
Slovenia-Great Britain 7-1
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 18, 2007, 07:02:36 PM
Today's games:

Lithuania-Japan 2-6
Romania-Hungary 3-5
Slovenia-Great Britain 20:00 CET
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 18, 2007, 10:44:58 PM
Today:

Slovenia-Great Britain 4-0

Standings:

1 Slovenia 9 pts
2 Hungary 6 pts
3 Japan 5 pts
4 Lithuania 3 pts
5 Great Britain 3 pts
6 Romania 1 pt

Tips for tomorrow:

Lithuania-Romania 3-4 (extra time)
Hungary-Great Britain 1-2 (let me be wrong...)
Japan-Slovenia 2-4
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 19, 2007, 09:58:53 PM
My worst tipping performance so far, but I'm not sad about that:

Lithuania-Romania 6-2
Hungary-Great Britain 4-2
Japan-Slovenia 1-6 (9 minutes remaining in the match)

With this, Hungary ensured their 2nd place in the final group standings, independetly from Saturday's game against Japan.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 20, 2007, 11:29:17 AM
Slovenia-Japan 7-1

Hungary secured its 2nd position in the final group standings, now they can play without any burden on them on Saturday against Japan, and I think it will mean a Hungarian victory against the surprisingly weakly performing Asians.

Tips for the last day:

Great Britain-Romania 6-2
Japan-Hungary 2-4
Slovenia-Lithuania 7-0
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on April 20, 2007, 06:07:44 PM
Forever Ottawa Senators!!! ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on April 21, 2007, 04:43:48 PM
Quote from: Krys TOFFIf France beat Poland and Poland beat Kazakhstan, then France will still have a chance.
That's exactly what happened ! Yeepee ! France managed to win its group ! Welcome back to the elite for France. ;D
Too bad for Hungary, only 2nd of their group... :P
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on April 21, 2007, 05:51:40 PM
Because French players were too smelly... the opponent couldn't close to them. :P
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 22, 2007, 05:31:39 PM
Division-1 ice hockey WCH in Ljubljana:

Great Britain-Romania 6-1
Japan-Hungary 3-4 (shootout) - Hungary terribly outshoot the Japanese, but couldn't manage to win in regular time
Slovenia-Lithuania 4-2

Final Standings

1 Slovenia 15 (29-5) - promoted
2 Hungary 11 (20-13)
3 Japan 6 (19-22)
4 Great Britain 6 (14-15)
5 Lithuania 6 (13-20)
6 Romania 1 (12-32) - relegated

If on www.centerice.hu the fans are correct, in 2008, the teams will play in the following groups:

Group A:
15th place team in WCH 2007
Poland
Kazakhstan
Japan
Great Britain
Republic of Korea

Group B:
16th place team in WCH 2007
HUNGARY
Estonia
Lithuania
Netherlands
Croatia

Well, our group seems to be fairly easier. :)
There's another version I saw on www.nemzetisport.hu, again a fan wrote the following:

Group A:
15th place team in WCH 2007
Poland
Kazakhstan
Great Britain
Netherlands
Republic of Korea

Group B:
16th place team in WCH 2007
HUNGARY
Japan
Estonia
Lithuania
Croatia

Well, Japan or the Netherlands, I don't think that it would count a lot... so we will probably find ourselves in the easier group (we managed to avoid playing against Kazakhstan, surprisingly finishing only 3rd this year in their group).

About the relegated teams this year, I think Italy has a fair chance to fall back into division-1, and Denmark, Austria can also be in danger. It would be surprise but not unimaginable to see Belarus, Ukraine and Norway to be relegated.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on April 30, 2007, 09:20:43 AM
...the best Handball in the world is played in the capital of Schleswig-Holstein:
(http://www.thw-provinzial.de/thw/homethw.gif)
THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE CUP IS OURS!

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAW!!! And I was there! Today hands still hurt from clapping, my voice is scarcely audible, my head is dim (maybe because of some, only few beers ;))

THW KIEL!

(http://www.thw-provinzial.de/thw/07042951.jpg)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on May 23, 2007, 09:13:09 AM
Stanley Cup Final is coming! Let's predict for the final result: Ottawa Senators - Anaheim Ducks 4-1
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on May 23, 2007, 01:47:56 PM
Congratulations Kiel!

About Ice Hockey, I'm sure Denmark will not be relegated. We are actually getting better and better, and we're quite close to reaching the quarter finals this year (okay then we would have had some trouble with Canada...). I predict that we reach the quarter finals next year. Good luck to Hungary in reaching the A group!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on May 23, 2007, 02:45:42 PM
Thanks... erm... we'll have to face a slight problem in the next few years, the team is getting a bit old, and the 18-21 yr old generation is not strong enough to replace them. If we earn the promotion to Group A next year, we'll fall back as Lad?nyi, Palkovics and Ocskay retires. We'll spend some years in Group B I think, but when the young players of new team Budapest Stars will reach the optimal age (they are about 15 yrs old now... some of them already sold to teams from abroad, e.g. Ill?s Gall? is the scoring leader in the Russian junior league), we can earn that damned promotion.

I think the 7 top teams are untouchable for the other teams, well, there are 8 teams in the QFs. In recent years, it was usually Switzerland who clinched the last quarter final spot. But for Denmark, teams like Germany, Belarus, Latvia are also to be beaten to reach the QFs. Denmark will be in pot 3 next year (12th seed), and they will have to beat a team from pot 2 (5th-8th seed) to be in an optimal position to reach the QFs... well...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on May 23, 2007, 04:08:50 PM
It will not be easy... But remember Denmark has beaten USA and drawn with Canada. And this year, we had a 2-0 lead vs Sweden, but dropped it and lost 2-4.

It's funny how Canada, Sweden, Russia, Finland, USA, Czech Republic and Slovakia are simply so much better than everyone else... But I believe Denmark has worked the way almost up to the next group: Belarus, Switzerland, Germany, Latvia, (Denmark)... Then countries like Norway, Italy, Ukraine and hopefully soon Hungary.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on May 23, 2007, 05:27:06 PM
And what about France ? We managed to be promoted in group A. ;)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on May 25, 2007, 01:51:15 PM
I'm surprised Akoss didn't mention the final of the men handball championship. After 11 years Pick Szeged won the championship against Veszpr?m (3-1):

MKB Veszpr?m KC - Pick-Szeged 30-31 (with penalties)
Pick-Szeged MKB - Veszpr?m KC 25-22
MKB Veszpr?m KC - Pick-Szeged 39-26
Pick-Szeged - MKB Veszpr?m KC 25-23

Last round of the women's championship will be this weekend, Gy?r can be the champion third time in a row, if they beat the second place Ferencv?ros.

Standings of the playoff:


1   Gy?ri Audi ETO KC159-126   10
2   Budapest Bank FTC     160-142   10
3   Dunaferr NK130-148   5
4   Cornexi-Alcoa140-153   5
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on May 29, 2007, 07:02:04 PM
Oh poor Laure Manaudou, her leg is broken. :(
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on May 29, 2007, 09:17:57 PM
Female handball:

Dirty Ferencv?ros, dirty refrees! ETO lost the final by a single goal and a lot of cheat from the refrees. Shame on them, shame on asshole capital team! My cute favorite, G?rbicz Anita scored 13 goals (best player of the match as in 80% of the cases), the lost match wasn't her fault...

(http://www.nemzetisport.hu/db/09/16/i0001F916686beb4be458.jpg)

Budapest Bank FTC - Gy?ri Audi ETO KC 37-36 (17-18)

These two teams can start in Champion's League but EHF was dirty too: ETO is only in the second hat after CL semi-finals while the romanian Valcea and the slovenian Ptuj is in the first... Scandal!!!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Chulk on June 05, 2007, 05:53:39 AM
Roland Garros 1/8 results:

R. Federer(1) def. M. Youzhny(13): 7-6 (7-3) 6-4 6-4

T. Robredo(9) def. F. Volandri(29): 6-2 7-5 6-1


N. Davydenko(4) def. D. Nalbandian(15): 6-3 7-6 (7-1) 3-6 7-6 (7-2)

G. Ca?as(19) def. J M?naco: 6-0 6-4 6-2


N.Djokovic(6) def. F. Verdasco: 6-3 6-3 7-6 (7-1)

I. Andreev def. M. Baghdatis(16): 2-6 6-1 6-3 6-4


C. Moya(23) def. J. Bjorkman: 7-6 (7-5) 6-2 7-5

R. Nadal(2) def. L. Hewitt(14): 6-3 6-1 7-6 (7-5)


Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on June 05, 2007, 09:43:26 AM
Tennis is not my sport, unless I have to watch Hingis and Kournikova together. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on June 05, 2007, 12:33:10 PM
Here we go, the best handball team in the world: THW Kiel!
There's nothing more to get! :)

Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Chulk on June 06, 2007, 05:04:20 AM
Roland Garros 1/4 final results:

R. Federer(1) def. T. Robredo(9) 7-5 1-6 6-1 6-2

N. Davydenko(4)
def. G. Ca?as(19) 7-5 6-4 6-4

Tomorrow:

N. Djokovic(6) Vs. I. Andreev

C. Moy?(23) Vs. R. Nadal(2)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on September 01, 2007, 10:20:58 PM
US Open 3rd round results (to reach last 16):

Agnieszka Radwanska (POL, 30) - Marija Sharapova (RUS, 2) 6/4 1/6 6/2

?gnes Sz?vay (HUN) - Nadia Petrova (RUS, 7) 6/4 6/4

Forever these results! Venger-pol?k dv? br?t?nki! Two Eastern Central European teen beat the Russians! Sharapova is a disgusting b*tch! B?FF! Forever Sz?vay, forever Radwanska!!! :D



BTW, ice hockey: Alba Vol?n FeVita - HK Kosice (SVK Extraliga 5th) 4-2!!! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on September 03, 2007, 07:05:39 PM
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSS!!! Sz?vay kicked Vakulenko's ass (6:4, 7:6) and she's already in the best 8 of US Open. Possible opponent is Kuznecova, she's still beatable. Go Sz?vay!!!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on September 04, 2007, 10:25:04 AM
General infos for basketball Euro 2007 :
Group A : Greece, Serbia, Russia, Israel
Group B : Spain, Croatia, Latvia, Portugal
Group C : Lituania, Germany, Turkey, Czech Republic
Group D : France, Italy, Slovenia, Poland
Best 3 of each group are qualified for 2nd turn. Best 3 of groups A and B => group E and best 3 of groups C and D => group F.
Then there will be the duels between teams from different group of 1st turn. All results will count (except those versus the teams eliminated in 1st round) and best 4 of groups E and F will play quarter-finals.
Best 2 of the Euro (that is the finalists) will be qualified for Olympic Games in Beijing except in case Spain is in final because then winner of match for 3rd place will be qualified too.
In my opinion, Greece, Spain and Lituania are potential winners while France, Germany, Italy, Slovenia and Serbia are potential semi-finalists.

Group D results of yesterday evening :
Poland 66-74 France
Italy 68-69 Slovenia
Logical victory for France, hard fight between Italy and Slovenia that may be important for quarter-final qualification if they are both qualified for 2nd turn (which should happen, it would be a miracle for Polish team if Poland is not eliminated in this group).
Today : Italy-France and Poland-Slovenia.
This group is not so easy for France. We all remember that Italy won versus France for 3rd place match and got bronze medal in Euro 2003. And for the next match versus Slovenia, it won't be an easy one too : even if France got bronze medal in Euro 2005, we lost versus Slovenia in our group during the first turn. Slovenia even beat future winner of 2005 (Greece) during 1st turn, so they are dangerous. Answers tonight and tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on September 04, 2007, 02:46:22 PM
Basketball... I never liked it, maybe only NBA (and only a long-long time ago). The only thing I hope that Lithuania will suck. ;D

DIRTY MINGVA! MINGVA LE VAN FINGVA!!!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on September 05, 2007, 09:43:44 AM
Euro basket 2007 : with 2 victories in 2 matches, Russia, Greece, Spain, Lituania, Germany, Slovenia and France are already qualified for 2nd round.

Tennis : Raphael Nadal eliminated, Justine Henin impressive versus Serena williams. It seems that Roger Federer and Justine Henin are ready for another victory in US Open .
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on September 05, 2007, 10:33:26 AM
Rugby World Cup 2007 starting this friday with France vs Argentina :

Group A : England, South Africa, USA, Tonga Islands, Samoa
Group B : Australia, Wales, Japan, Canada, Fidji
Group C : New Zealand, Scotland, Italy, Portugal, Romania
Group D : France, Ireland, Argentina, Namibia, Georgia

Best 2 of each group are qualified for quarter-finals.
New Zealand is obviously the most favorite for champion title.
Wales and Scotland just have to play seriously if they want to be sure to be qualified.
England, South Africa, New Zealand and Australia can't be eliminated (expect a miracle happen suddenly).
Most interesting group is D, where Argentina may create surprise that could eliminate Ireland or maybe even France in case Ireland beat France too ! I fear this group, French players seem over-confident and should not forget that Argentina beated France more than once recently and that Ireland will want to compensate their defeat at home versus France during "6 nations" tournament this year...
My tip is France and Ireland qualified anyway, but Argentina is getting better year after year (half of their players play in France clubs and they perfectly know European rugby now) and should not be considered as a sparing partner.
Answer friday evening : France -Argentina.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on September 05, 2007, 01:16:13 PM
Oh LOL rugby? Another crappy sport. :D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on September 05, 2007, 02:41:17 PM
Crappy ? No way. Water-polo is crappy, rugby is not ! :P
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Chulk on September 05, 2007, 03:50:53 PM
I agree with you Krys but I think France is favourite to win the tittle, specially playing at home. New Zealand always sucks at World Cups, they never play at their best.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on September 06, 2007, 09:55:40 AM
Basket Euro 2007 in Spain :
Lucky Slovenia that got another victory by one point after Italy : France 66-67 Slovenia.
Too bad, France was leading by 15 points when Nesterovic injured Turriaf, breaking the French rythm and allowing Slovenia to do a good 19-3 period.
Tony Parker was not as good as versus Italy and he lost a penalty shoot at the very end of the match that could have given us the victory.
Anyway, France is qualified for 2nd round.

Another surprise : Spain (world champion and playing at home) lost versus Croatia by one point too. Croatia lost their 1st match in this Euro versus Latvia and Latvia is the team eliminated. Strange results from Croatia...
And last surprise : Russia beated Greece (61-53) yesterday too.

Teams eliminated : Serbia, Latvia, Czech republic, Poland.

2nd round groups :
Group E : Russia (4 points), Croatia (4), Spain (3), Greece (3), Israel (2), Portugal (2)
Group F : Lituania (4), Slovenia (4), Germany (3), France (3), Italy (2), Turkey (2).

Remember that points are 2 for victory and 1 for defeat, not draw allowed (extended time if needed) and points earned versus teams eliminated doesn't count (lucky Croatia for that).
Now 3 matches remaining for each group and best 4 of each group will reach quarter-finals (1st of group E vs 4th of group F, 2nd of group E vs 3rd of group F, ...)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on September 06, 2007, 10:06:55 AM
Sz?vay is out in women singles...  F U C K OFF dirty lucky Kuznecova!!!!

Sz?vay - Kuznecova 1:6, 4:6
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on September 06, 2007, 10:33:40 AM
Volley-ball euro 2007 in Russia (start this afternoon).

After a good preparation, French team aim for a final. We beated last week Poland (vice-world champion) and Bulgaria during a tournament in Paris, which is promising and a confirmation of French potential after a final (lost versus Brazil) in last World League.

Goal for us at this Euro is to reach final and then be qualified for World cup (in Japan in November). Then according to World Cup results we can hope to be qualified for Olympic Games 2008 (best 3 of WC will be directly qualified for Olympic Games).

Volleyball Euro system is almost the same as for basketball Euro : 4 groups of 4, best 3 qualified for 2nd turn (2 groups of 6). Then the difference with basketball euro is that only best 2 of these 2 groups of 6 trams will play directly semi-finals.

Group A : Netherlands, Serbia, Germany, Greece.
Group B : Russia, Belgium, Poland, Turkey.
Group C : Spain (most dangerous opponent for France in our group I think), France, Slovenia (let's hope volleyball players will do better versus them than baskeball players) and Slovakia.
Group D : Croatia, Bulgaria, Finland, Italy.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on September 06, 2007, 10:40:14 AM
The strange thing is that nobody talked about athletics world championship (Osaka).
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on September 06, 2007, 11:03:53 AM
Quote from: CTGThe strange thing is that nobody talked about athletics world championship (Osaka).
Because our own countries had shitty results probably. Only 2 silver medals for France for example. :-\
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on September 06, 2007, 11:29:11 AM
Two 5th places for Hungary... ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Argammon on September 06, 2007, 07:45:40 PM
Sports in TV is all good and interesting to watch. And we are all proud about the results of our native nations.

But my question is,

How sportive are YOU in real life? Can you tell us any decent results in real life? Or did you slowly degenerate after school sport was over?   8)

BTW, you = anyone here  ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: zaqrack on September 06, 2007, 08:37:28 PM
this weekend: 110km with 4400m altitude gain endurance tour, all on roughh terrain
next weekend: 24 hour long endurance MTB race in a 6 biker team.
+daily avr. 20km commuting on bike, weekly 20-200 offroad biking.


Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on September 06, 2007, 09:10:16 PM
My best results were:

Against the clock or whatever

12.74 in 100m (2nd best in the class)
2:22.0 in 800m (2nd best in the class)
around 5 minutes in 1500m
21'02" in a Margharet Island circle (5350m)
around 5 metres in long jump
12'26" on the H?rmashat?r Mountain ascent (individual mountain bike uphill time trial between Stunts drivers, somewhere around two and a half kilometres, average gradient of ascent around 7-8%) - 2004
123 kms with bike in one day (Kazincbarcika-Eger-Kazincbarcika, hilly terrain)

Competitive

5th in cross country running in Budapest fifth district championship (for 10th class students) - 1999
1st in cross country running in my school (for 10th class students) - 1999
6th in 800 metres running in my secondary school championship (all of the classes in the school) (twice) - 2000, 2001
7th in Kegyeleti relay running in Budapest (in my school's first team) - 2000
4th in long jumping in my secondary school championship (all of the classes in the school, but only a few competitors) - 2001
3rd in a Challenge Day football tournament for primary school students, with my primary school class team (I was a substitute :)) - 1997
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: zaqrack on September 06, 2007, 09:46:32 PM
oh former results in running :)

I did 0.59 on 400m
and
3300m on the Cooper test

can't recall more, and I switched to biking anyway :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: zaqrack on September 06, 2007, 09:48:28 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on September 06, 2007, 09:10:16 PM

12'26" on the H?rmashat?r Mountain ascent (individual mountain bike uphill time trial between Stunts drivers, somewhere around two and a half kilometres, average gradient of ascent around 7-8%) - 2004

actually its a 2,4km long asphalt track, with 170m elevation, average steepness is 7,0%
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on September 06, 2007, 10:13:10 PM
Quote from: zaqrack on September 06, 2007, 09:46:32 PM3300m on the Cooper test
/me around the same :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on September 06, 2007, 11:19:47 PM
I was good in short length running, jumping and sports where power is the most important (weight-lifting, wrestling).
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on September 07, 2007, 11:03:31 AM
Running : I never was good in short speedy distances nor too long runs. 1500m was really the best for me. My best result in 1500m was when I was in the army, we always runned this distance. But to be honest I don't remember my best time ever. Something between 4'30 to 5' or so. But I didn't practice since... way too long time (I was in the army in 1994) ! ::) And I'm 10 kg bigger now. So my time at 1500m run would probably be the double now, or even worse ! :D To be honest, I don't want to do the test to verify ! ;D
Quote from: Argammondid you slowly degenerate after school sport was over?   8)
Seems to be :D, but for me it was after army period was over... ;)

Jumps : my less worse was triple jump, but I was always crappy in all kind of jumps, especially high jump shitty Fosbury technique.

Throws : javelot was my best, easily, and I was quite good there regarding my schoolmates. Not because of my strength, but because I understood the technique of javelot throw better than most of my schoolmates. I was shitty in other kind of throws, especially because of turns needed to gain speed. I often threw the item (disc, ...) outside the limits to the left or to the right. I never liked turning around, I prefer straigth throw like javelot by far.

Team sports : I suck in rugby (I don't have the physical look of Chabal at all !) and football (I suck in technique of football, I just shoot :D).
Basketball : I never was good at basketball, and I'm way too short to be a good one. I was only good at 3 points shoots, because I never was able to score close to the basket : all other players were always much taller than me. Only chance for me to score was to shoot from far. I played a very few in middle school (French name is college, but college means high school in english, so I use middle-school name to describe it, I was 11-15 years-old then) years but prefered handball play by far.
Handball : first I was left forward in middle school team, and then I was goalkeeper in high school (16-18 years old) because there was too much forwards already in the team and because I was not too bad in goalkeeping, but got tired of beeing goalkeeper after one year so I stopped and played volleyball for the last 2 years of high school before university.
Volleyball : as I'm not tall (1m75 tall "only") I was regular back player/defender and specialized in passes as a forward. The 2nd year I remember we finished 3rd in regional high school competition. Then I went to university and stopped team sports to have more free time for girlfriend(s).

I was just doing some runs and a few bicycle sport during university. Other free time was for concert and girls. ;D But going to listen a concert was a sport for me, I remember I lost 2 to 3 kg per concert. Ok, it was almost heavy-metal only, that's why. I was doing pogo during all the concert. :D

I don't remember any high score or so to be honest, it was quite a long time ago and the only regular sport I do now is bicycle with my children, so level is poor compared to Alain's or Zak's bicycle levels. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on September 07, 2007, 11:10:43 AM
Back to volleyball Euro 2007 :
Group A : Serbia 3-0 Netherlands (Germany-Greece will be played tomorrow only)
Group B : Russia 3-0 Belgium (Poland-Turkey tomorrow too)
Group C : Spain 3-1 Slovenia and France 3-1 Slovakia. Logical results and a surprisingly good Slovak team in the last 2 sets)
Group D : Bulgaria 3-2 Croatia (shitty start of Bulgaria that lost the first 2 sets) and Italy 3-2 Finland. That's a surprise to see Italy in such a trouble, they should have won 3-0, and Bulgaria too. Good for France if some teams are tired and not as good as they are used to be. ;)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on September 07, 2007, 01:55:04 PM
Many sports you tried Mr T?ff!

About ball games: my 3D eyesight is too bad, my skills are just crappy in them. Usually I played goalkeeper because that was the only position where I was one of the bests maybe because of reflex and no fear of forwards (am I right Mr Poo? ;D).

My personal records:

60 m - 8.2
100 m - 13.04
200 m - ~29.0
800 m - 2:50
1250 m (primary school lap, street running) - 4:53

High jump - 160 cm

Laying weight-lifting - 97.5 kg (my weight was about 70 kg)

Pulling together legs in a thigh muscle trainer machine - 170 kg

Press-ups - ~80
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Argammon on September 07, 2007, 03:46:59 PM
I am generally better at short distances... some older records:

100m: 11,9
200m: ~24
400m: ~53
800m: don't remember but it was *bad*
>800m: *bad*

long jump: 5,94 at school competition... High: ~1.80 but not fosbory but strattle...

Javelin: Never learned the tequnique thus *bad*
Never used a disc or hammer!

Football:

Very good goalkeeper due to good reflexes. Decent attacker... bad on any other position  ;D

Swimming:
Quite good on any distance. I prefer between 100m-200m though.
I think it's smart not to give you times here, ;D, some people know why...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Argammon on September 07, 2007, 03:48:13 PM
I forgot that there are different styles in swimming. Yikes!

Crawl: Best
Butterfly,Back: decent
Breast: bad

Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on September 07, 2007, 04:24:51 PM
Oh, right, I forgot swimming.
Well, easy to say : I'm slow whatever the kind of swimming. :D My less worse is backstroke swimming.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on September 07, 2007, 05:11:15 PM
Even better: I can't swim :D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on September 07, 2007, 05:34:28 PM
Quote from: CTGEven better: I can't swim :D
?! Can't ?
If you told "I don't know how to swim", I could understand but saying that you "can't" swim... I don't understand why.
Or maybe you're too heavy to be able to float. :D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on September 07, 2007, 05:57:21 PM
/me slaps T?ff around a bit with a large trout.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Argammon on September 07, 2007, 09:41:48 PM
Actually I have problems not to drown while trying to float as well  :o
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on September 07, 2007, 11:44:22 PM
Aaaaaargh !
France 12-17 Argentina !! (Rugby WC result)
I was right to be afraid of the Argentinian team, they know French rugby too muchj as numerous of their players play in French clubs. Result is that they managed to always block French rugby that is mainly based on movements and passes. It can't remember how many passes they intercepted !
French players were over-confident as I feared and Argentinians did well according to they strategy.
Ireland rugby is not like French one and Ireland is supposed theorically to win versus Argentina. That's why now France have no other choice than winning versus Ireland, which won't be easy at all too.
Damn ! that's the first time since rugby WC exists that France loose a 1st round match. Let's hope it won't be also the first time that France gets eliminated since the first round... ::)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Chulk on September 08, 2007, 06:03:55 PM
YES! Great victory for Argentina (We defeated France 5 out of 6 last matches). We played amazingly well an made 127 tackles! Great defense! We managed to get a good advantage (due to many pass interceptions) at the beggining and then defended the result with heart and claws (that's why we're known as Los Pumas -which means Cougars-). I'm not so sure Ireland is suppose to beat us, remember IRB World Cp '99 when we kicked their ass. And we defeated them many times in the last few years. Anyway. next match is Georgia and should be quite easy, getting bonus there would have been great for Argentina's chances to advance to 1/4 finals. Let's see how everything goes.

Another results:

NZL def ITA: 76-14
AUS def JPN: 91-03

Now playing: USA-ENG are tied 0-0
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Argammon on September 08, 2007, 07:56:11 PM
Hungary - Bosnia/H... 1-0 in european championship qualification.

Very good result for struggeling hungary. Unfortunatly, despite of this, they have no real chance to qualify anymore.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on September 09, 2007, 12:09:36 AM
Football Euro 2008 qualifications, Group B.
Georgia 1-1 Ukraine (this draw will make it hard for Ukraine to hope a qualification)
Scotland 3-1 Lituania (Scotland still dangerous)
Italy 0-0 France (quite good for France, not a good result for Italy)

Classification of the group so far :
Team       Pts played won    draw lost + - Diff
France      19    8      6    1    1    15    2    13
Scotland    18    8      6    0    2    16    7    9
Italy         17     8    5     2    1    13    6    7
Ukraine     13     7      4    1    2    9    7    2
Georgia     7      9      2    1    6    14    15    -1
Lituania       7     8      2    1    5    5    10    -5
Feroe Islands 0    8      0    0    8    2    27    -25
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on September 09, 2007, 12:14:18 AM
Basketball Euro, group F
France 78-66 Germany
Italy 74-79 Lituania
Turkey 51-66 Slovenia

Classification so far in this group :
Slovenia and Lituania : 6 points
France : 4
Germany : 2
Italy and Turkey : 0
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on September 09, 2007, 06:04:44 PM
1-0 but we played well - quite unusual from our team. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on September 10, 2007, 10:47:04 AM
Female handball:

Champion's League semi-finalist Gy?r faced one of the most dangerous opponents in Hungarian championship and won. G?rbicz scored 8 goals again. :) What a surprise, we are leading the championship.

Gy?ri Audi ETO KC -  Dunaferr NK 33-28 (18-12)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on September 10, 2007, 08:36:51 PM
Sports for me:

SWIMMING - I can swim, but not too fast. I am not a bad breaststroke swimmer, and I can swim more than 1 kilometres in that style of swimming. I am faster in crawl, but it is a faster kind of swimming, and I think relatively I am a bit worse in this style than in breaststroke. I get tired easily in crawl. I don't prefer the backstroke too much (but I can swim in this style, too), and my arms and my technique is not good enough for the butterfly (so I can't swim in butterfly).

HANDBALL - It was really only once when I tried this sport, and I didn't know the rules. We were playing against the girls, who played handball in almost each of their P.E. classes. I guess we beat them (although we never played handball before), but I wasn't among the best in my team. I guess handball wouldn't have been my sport.

BASKETBALL - Probably my worst team sport. I am a bad thrower, and I'm not able to take the ball away from the others. I compensate this with enthusiasm, running, ball stealing, passing... but it is usually not enough. I also don't like in this sport that there are too much annoying rules...

VOLLEYBALL - I only played a few times in primary school in class, and a few times on the playground (and once in a friend of mine's garden at the closed entrance, the fence was the net :)). I felt that I would be a decent player in this kind of sport (well, maybe because I was born in one of the most volleyballish town in the country), although I never had the possibility to prove this.

FLOORBALL - We played floorball on P.E. classes, and they said that I was a decent player. I always scored goals, my reflex shots often surprised the goalies.

HIGH JUMP - I didn't have the technique for this athletic event, and I also wasn't able to jump off the ground to a great height.

COMBAT SPORTS, SPORTS WHICH NEED PHYSICAL POWER - I was never interested in that kind of sports, so I am quite weak in them. I had a wrestler P.E. teacher in primary school, so everybody in our class had to compete in the wrestling championship in my town. Well, related my skills and obsession for this sport, I wasn't performed badly, I finished in the middle of the crew.

TABLE TENNIS - well, I have a good serve game, though I can't really add a spin to the ball. It always flies just over the net quickly, and it is quite accurate, too. I am also not bad at giving balls back to the opponent (though a spinny ball can cause problems). Generally, I think I am above average in this sport. I also tried tennis 1-2 times, and I felt I would be able to do around the same results there.

FOOTBALL - without a doubt, I am an offensive player on the football pitch. I always liked to play a wing or a forward. Advantages of me: shooting power, shooting accuracy, scoring, passing, agility, enthusiasm; earlier stamina and running also belonged to that group. I am also a very reliable penalty shoot taker, I beat many great players (much better than me, playing in regional first division) in this discipline. Mediocre: sprints, heading (on a bad day, it is weak), positioning. Weak: ball in the air, tackling, goalkeeping (on a good day, it's mediocre).
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on September 10, 2007, 10:45:28 PM
About combat sports: I was always interested in the but never tried because I fear of injuries.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Chulk on September 11, 2007, 06:18:29 AM
About Athletic sports: Never tried any of them but long jump (around 5 metres was my best, average was 4.6)
HANDBALL: I played in school for about 6 years (from 6 years old to 11 years old). I was always left wing as I was very fast and I'm right handed (I lost some speed when I grew older)

FOOTBALL: I'm a very good defender, as I have a good view of the attacking team and usually anticipate the forward's moves. My best position in the field is Classic 8 (Right Mid-Fielder) due to my defensive skills, my view of the game both when attacking and defending and my speed. I can also shoot quite accurately and with good power. My worst position is GK, as my reflexs are not that good and my arms and hands are quite weak.

VOLLEYBALL: Definitely my best sport (from 13 Y.O. to 18 Y.O.) I was Outside Hitter mainly, less often I was Opposite Hitter. I'm not very tall for this sport (only 1.80 m.) but I compensated with a great (and very heavily trained during 6 years) vertical jump. My defense skills where good not because of my reflexes, but due to the fact that I was shorter than most of the players and had good positioning fast.

SWIMMING: I don't like to swim, so I can only do crawl if needed, but that's it. Besides I can't stand the Chlorine that is used to keep pools clean.

TENNIS: I really suck.

BTW: What is floorball?
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on September 11, 2007, 09:31:40 AM
Floorball is something like ice hockey but without ice and with a little ball. :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on September 21, 2007, 01:33:08 PM
?gnes Sz?vay is already semi-finalist in Beijing! She's going to meet Mauresmo or Peng next time. The other semi-final: Jankovic vs Davenport.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on September 24, 2007, 09:37:46 AM
Perfect sports weekend! In football (off-topic) Gy?ri ETO FC beated Feh?rv?r (4-1), Ferencv?ros couldn't win in second class and they are only 9th.  ;D

?gnes Sz?vay won the tournament in Beijing after an incredible match: she was to lose, Jankovic (3rd on WTA ranklist) had match ball at 6:7 (7-9), 1:5. But Sz?vay didn't give up, turned to 7:5 and won the next round too: 6:2. Amazing performance!  :o

MotoGP, 125 ccm: G?bor Talm?csi increased his lead in the championship versus Hector Faubel with a nice, tactical drive in Japan. Talm?csi finished 2nd behind Pasini and overtook his spanish rival by 20 seconds.  :D

Female handball: biggest game in Hungarian championship so far, Gy?ri Audi ETO KC's guest was the last year's (undeserved) champion, Ferencv?ros. Real difference came out this time: ETO knocked out the champion. Anita G?rbicz scored 16 goals.  :o  :P

Gy?ri Audi ETO KC - Budapest Bank FTC 32-24 (16-14)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on September 24, 2007, 10:27:12 AM
DAMN IT, SZAVAY BEATED MY SERBIAN FAVORITE!!!

Big slap.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on September 24, 2007, 11:37:45 AM
New page... :(

See my previous post about perfect sports weekend.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on September 25, 2007, 08:25:37 PM
I would have won the bronze medal in the 1896 Olympic Games 800m final!!! (3rd place time: 2:28.0 - some years ago, it was impossible to run slower than this for me.)

And have you heard that Momcsill? Tapavicza is the only tennis player who got a medal for Hungary in the Olympics?
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Chulk on October 08, 2007, 07:51:03 PM
RWC 1/4 finals update:

Aus 10 - 12 ENG
Nzl  18 - 20 FRA

RSA 37 - 20 Fji
ARG 19 - 13 Sco

1/2 finals:

Eng - Fra: 13-Oct, 21 hs. (France time GMT +1)
Arg - Sco: 14-Oct, 21 hs. (France time GMT +1)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on October 08, 2007, 11:36:51 PM
Quote from: Chulk
Nzl  18 - 20 FRA
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!!!!!!!! 8)

Quote from: ChulkArg - Sco: 14-Oct, 21 hs. (France time GMT +1)
It will be Argentina-South Africa, not Argentina Scotland. :D

Now, I hope to see a final France - Argentina, as a revenge of opening match of the world cop. And I tip for a French victory of course.
But before, 2 hard matches are expected for semi-finals.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Chulk on October 09, 2007, 01:57:48 AM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on October 08, 2007, 11:36:51 PM
Quote from: ChulkArg - Sco: 14-Oct, 21 hs. (France time GMT +1)
It will be Argentina-South Africa, not Argentina Scotland. :D
You're right!

Quote from: Krys TOFF on October 08, 2007, 11:36:51 PM
Now, I hope to see a final France - Argentina, as a revenge of opening match of the world cop. And I tip for a French victory of course.
But before, 2 hard matches are expected for semi-finals.
I don't. France is much stronger than England so I hope to see a Argentina - England Final match. Besides, we have already beat you, so now you know how to play against us, but England is not that versatile and they can't change their way of playing as France can to exploit Argentina weaknesses.
But of course first we have to beat RSA, which I don't think we'll do. Argentina players are very tired and RSA is very strong physically. But hopefully we can give another surprise...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on October 09, 2007, 01:40:12 PM
Refrees help FRA when they organize a bigger sport event (football and handball World Cup, rugby...).
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on October 10, 2007, 09:21:40 AM
Quote from: CTG
Refrees help FRA when they organize a bigger sport event (football and handball World Cup, rugby...).
Help ? Did you saw any special attitude from referees during this world cup ? IMO, it was one of the best regarding referees' attitude, even in matches where strong countries (like Australia or New Zealand) were versus small ones (Portugal, ...). During previous world cups, when a situation was sharp and referres' decision important, referees always decided against small countries, which didn't happen during this world cup as far as I know.

To be honest, I remind much more a strange attitude from a referee in favor of Germany during handball world cup semi-final France vs Germany in Germany during last moments of 2nd extended time.
Check there (http://stunts.mine.nu/forum/index.php?topic=1459.285), the strange decision regarding Guigou :
Quote from: meWhy in Hell last goal of Guigou is refused and the ball given back to France ? There was not enough time to score and it was obviously the best way to let Germany win.
Let me explain : if Guigou made a fault, the goal is refused and the ball is given to Germany. Logical. Esle, Guigou made no fault, so goal is valid and the 2 teams go to penalty session.
So, why the goal is refused and the ball given back to France ?
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on October 10, 2007, 01:10:23 PM
"The referee helped a full-European semi final to be played" - says the Hungarian Rugby Federation's web page. I read the same on some international pages, too; and the experts on the Hungarian Sports TV also said the same - if there hadn't been for the referee, New Zealand would have got through the semi finals.

The Hungarian rugby page mentions that the New Zealand team possessed the ball 60% in the first half, 70% in the second half, but didn't got ANY penalty shots, which was very interesting, because French players often run to offside at scrums (in the 78th minute they cleared the ball from an offside position, which would have been a try to New Zealand). On the other hand, the referee did everything to give a penalty to the French. What's more, the winning French try also occured at a strange situation: there was a forward pass in the attack. This page says that it's sad that such phenomenons (strong referee help) appeared even in this clear and beautiful sport.

I think it's very important to listen to read the independent, neutral opinions after a match where you support a team very heavily (for instance because it's your national team). People always tend to be biased against their supported team. There's nothing wrong with it, everybody is like that; but a neutral eye can see the match in a different aspect, which is much closer to the real.

The page also says that England beat Australia without any help from the referee. They also said that Argentina was killing time and killing play in the end of the game against Scotland, and they almost paid for it. They praise the Fiji team who played their best against the very strong South Africa team.


Handball: yes, that WC was in Germany, and Germany didn't deserve the gold medal, the referees were as disgusting there to help them (the home team, too) as now on the rugby world cup.

I guess when CTG mentioned the football World Cup, he didn't think about the French team in 1998 (I think they were just lucky, especially against Italy in the QFs); rather about the South Korean team in 2002. It is another great example that the referees help the home team disgustingly on World Cup events in some sports.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on October 10, 2007, 03:06:43 PM
Quote from: Akoss PooNew Zealand team possessed the ball 60% in the first half, 70% in the second half, but didn't got ANY penalty shots, which was very interesting, because French players often run to offside at scrums (in the 78th minute they cleared the ball from an offside position, which would have been a try to New Zealand). On the other hand, the referee did everything to give a penalty to the French.
NZ rugby style is not to search for penalties, this is the English style. NZ always wants to score a try, playing with speed and movements and hand game mainly.
Of course, ball possession was mainly NZ one, this was the goal. The French strategy clearly was to force NZ to play, but to always block any attack (look at the stops made by French player almost 180 !!! Only around 40 stops for NZ) and keep the ball as much in NZ part of the field.
This way, even if NZ gets a penalty (and they got some, don't tell that they got none), they would have been too far from French side to be able to score easily. This happened on the last penalty for NZ at the end of the match : the NZ shot was too short.
Then, following this strategy, the goal was to use any opportunity opened by NZ due to their attacks blocked by French players. And it worked perfectly : France did only 2 real attacks, and scored a try on each one.

Quote from: Akoss Poothe winning French try also occured at a strange situation: there was a forward pass in the attack.
This is right, but the referee at this moment was behind the players and couldn't see it. It's a failure of his 2 assitant-referees that should have signaled it. But it seems they also were "late" and so they were behind the action. I don't think it's a deliberate mistake, it's just a bad placement of the referee regarding the action.
And, in rugby, if the main referee doesn't ask the video confirmation, the video referee doesn't have the right to signal anything, which is quite strange but it's the rule in rugby...
To be honest, I didn't saw this forward pass when action was played, it was too fast. I saw it with the replays published on TV after France scored. French commentators also saw it only with the replays. Let's say that it's our "hand of God". ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Chulk on October 10, 2007, 08:15:01 PM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on October 10, 2007, 03:06:43 PM
Let's say that it's our "hand of God". ;D
No, no, no!!! The "hand of God" is only Argentinian, and it's used only in football and regarding that match. ;)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on October 11, 2007, 07:16:15 AM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on October 10, 2007, 01:10:23 PM
Handball: yes, that WC was in Germany, and Germany didn't deserve the gold medal

...says the loser, quite clear! ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Chulk on October 17, 2007, 05:48:32 PM
Well... France - Argentina for bronze medal, South Africa (go Springbocks!) - England for the title.
My tips are: Sprinbocks' ass kicking victory over England (Like in 1st round) and France beating Argentina (sadly :'() in a very close match.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on October 18, 2007, 09:38:10 AM
Quote from: Chulk on October 17, 2007, 05:48:32 PM
Well... France - Argentina for bronze medal, South Africa (go Springbocks!) - England for the title.
My tips are: Sprinbocks' ass kicking victory over England (Like in 1st round) and France beating Argentina (sadly :'() in a very close match.
France need a revenge versus Argentina and South Africa proved that they were able to play both "handy and movements" rugby like New Zealand or France do the best (why in Hell France decided to play like England versus England ? It was a good idea versus New Zealand, but not versus England) and also the "high defense and footy rugby" like England do best. So, my tips are :
FRA 23-6 ARG (high pressure from France, and Argentinian players are now really tired as seen versus South Africa)
SA 30-9 ENG (England will be able to score this time, but won't be able to avoid SA scoring 3 tries).
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on October 18, 2007, 12:02:41 PM
After an ultra crappy season Philadelphia Flyers made a great start in NHL, leading the Atlantic Division after 5 matches. I hope they will be able to reach playoff at the end.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on October 18, 2007, 01:01:45 PM
I saw yesterday's match between Pittsburgh and New Jersey. It is quite rare in ice hockey, but the referees supported New Jersey very wildly, the Penguins crows was very often whistling, screaming, shouting at them (6 NJ penalties in a row, some of them was harsh, on Penguins powerplay a 4 minute double-minor for Malone for nothing, disallowed Penguins goal, undisallowed NJ goal which shouldn't have been a goal etc.). Result: New Jersey @ Pittsburgh 5 4.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on October 20, 2007, 03:24:43 AM
OH YEAH!!!

Gutix kicked Alain's ass!

Argentina - France 34-10

From now: GO SPRINGBOKS!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on October 20, 2007, 02:21:44 PM
France dominated during first 30 minutes, with scoring only 3 points. A pity, we did the same mistakes as versus England, loosing too many balls and with a clear impossibility to change our strategy or rythm.
On the other hand, once France diminished its pressure, Argentina managed perfectly to play what was before the French style rugby : hand actions with movements, innovative actions, a few faults, only a few foot play, and rapidity.
Logically, Argentina won a well-deserved 3rd place, well done and congrats.

After this match, I was so disappointed that I forgot that yesterday was WSC deadline. Too bad. :(
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Duplode on October 21, 2007, 06:05:13 AM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on October 20, 2007, 02:21:44 PM
After this match, I was so disappointed that I forgot that yesterday was WSC deadline. Too bad. :(

<offtopic> Well, my sudden realization of having a second try just before midnight was rewarded, how damn lucky I am... </offtopic>
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on October 21, 2007, 04:51:44 PM
Some results of the final part of Women handball World Cup in Denmark :
France 25-23 Denmark
Russia 30-27 Norway

Denmark is current Olympic champion, but yet not qualified for forthcoming World Championship in december in France. Russia is current world champion, it will be very hard for France in final. During preliminary roubnd, the only match lost by France was versus Norway. Logically, if Russia beat Norway, they will win the World Cup.

Next events :
- Paris tournament in November : France, Tunisia, Poland and Brazil (22-25 november 2007)
- World championship in France (2-16 december 2007)
After beeing world champion 4 years ago, France ended only 12th (but with almost only new players) 2 years ago when Russia won back the world championship versus Romania. So, the final of the World cup versus Russia will be a very good preparation for the forthcoming World Championship.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Chulk on October 21, 2007, 09:36:19 PM
Quote from: CTG on October 20, 2007, 03:24:43 AM
OH YEAH!!!

Gutix kicked Alain's ass!

Argentina - France 34-10

From now: GO SPRINGBOKS!!!  ;)
YES! Amazing victory for us! I really thought we were going to lose by a lot in first 25 minutes or so, but then 2 tries and 14 points difference put more pressure on France. There were 3 key moments in this match.
1- Argentina managed to keep France from scoring in the first 20 min and striked back twice in few minutes.
2- Argentina managed to keep France from scoring before half-time, demoralising the French player
3- Argentina had 1 player less (Leguizamon hit Chabal on the neck, I loved it as I hate Chabal) and France started to pressure harder and harder, but Argentina scored, definitely killing France spirit.

Yes, Springbocks won. That's what I wanted so Argentina was only beaten by the World Champion.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on October 27, 2007, 08:10:35 PM
Female handball, Champions League

Alealealealealeoooo, dicksucker Slagelse!!! We striked back for the lost semi-final of the last season - beating Europe's best female handball team. ;D Of course G?rbicz was the best player of my team again, scoring 6 goals.

Gy?ri Audi ETO KC - Slagelse 24-17 (12-11)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on October 28, 2007, 02:02:48 AM
It's okay, I don't like Slagelse much... Anja Andersen is a joke.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on November 05, 2007, 11:34:19 AM
Ah another great sports weekend! :D

Moto GP, 125 ccm

After a "close-to-heart attack" race and many unfair movements (fortunately without success) from Hector Faubel, G?bor Talm?csi (HUN, Aspar Aprilia) finished second in Valencia, so he became the WORLD CHAMPION in 125 ccm cathegory.

Female handball, Champion's League (in Valencia, it seems to be the lucky city of Hungarian sports this time)

After beating Slagelse, ETO got an easier exercise and solved it without problem (even 15 minutes of laziness was acceptable after 15-24 standings). Anita G?rbicz scored 12 goals. :D

Ribarroja Valencia - Gy?ri Audi ETO KC 28-31 (13-18)

Football (off-topic here, but it's necessary to show why it was a great weekend):

In professional league:

Gy?ri ETO - Ujpest 4-2 (1-1), ETO played with 10 players after the 41th minute and despite of this kicked a hungarian top team's ass.

In division 5 (muhahahahahaha):

T?lt?stava - B?csa FC 0-1
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on November 27, 2007, 01:30:34 AM
Female handball world cup is coming...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on November 27, 2007, 01:53:43 AM
Nothing about combat sports?  :-\
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on November 27, 2007, 01:56:04 AM
Boxing, light heavyweight, WBO title: Zsolt Erdei beated Tito Mendoza (117-111, 116-112, 111-117, last one is LOL).
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 27, 2007, 02:37:56 PM
Great start of the day: I checked the NHL results, and I found:

Pinadelpina Flyers - Boston Bruins 3-6!!!

F*CK OFF PINADELPINA FLYERS!!! :D :D :D

THE PENGUINS ARE RISING!!! Btw next time they meet the Stars on 30th.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on November 27, 2007, 02:46:13 PM
Go Stars!

Pens is just a little piece of crap. Like you.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 03, 2007, 02:54:21 PM
Some news of the female Handball World Championship that started yesterday (only countries represented in this forum listed below) :
- easy victories for France and Brazil :
France 37-12 Argentina (group A)
Brazil 36-9 Australia (group B)
- more difficult victories for Hungary and Germany :
Hungary 35-31 Japan (group E)
Germany 26-21 Ukraine (group F)

Reminder : 4 teams per group, 6 groups, best 2 of each group are qualified for main round.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on December 03, 2007, 09:29:41 PM
Hungary - Congo 33-20, but... after 21-10, we had a damned hard period when Congo scored 7 times in a row. We won't be a top team this time.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 03, 2007, 10:48:01 PM
France 31-20 Kazakhstan
1st place of group A will be between France and Croatia, who won versus Kazakhstan and Argentina too. France and Croatia are already qualified for main round, Argentina is already eliminated.

Macedonia 26-22 Brazil
Brazil will have to win the next match versus Russia (who won his 2 matches) to be qualified. Hard job for Brazil, while Macedonia can be qualified if they win versus Australia (which will happen, so Brazil is as good as eliminated IMO... ::)).

Group D : Poland and Romania won their 2 matches, they are both qualified. Winner of their duel will design 1st and 2nd of their group.

Group E : same for Spain and Hungary, both already qualified.

Group F : same also for Korea and Germany. easy victory for Germany :
Germany 45-12 Paraguay
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on December 04, 2007, 10:43:01 PM
Hungary - Spain 26-26... Too bad, only one point in the next phase.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 05, 2007, 08:19:05 PM
Nice resistance from Brasil : 26-26 versus Russia. But not enough to be qualified because they lost versus Macedonia. But it seems that Brazil is  one of the favorites to get 13th place.

Good result from France too : 28-26 versus Croatia. We have 2 points already, and all points will count as top 4 of each main group will be qualified. We will have to beat Angola (nice result for them to be qualified) and Macedonia (both of them have no points so far) to be almost sure to be qualified because after we will have to play versus Russia (current World Champion) and Norway (current Europe Champion), who also have 2 points already. And it will be really hard to beat these 2 teams...

On the 2nd group, Germany and Romania have 2 points, Spain and Hungary have 1 point. Poland and South Korea have no point.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on December 05, 2007, 09:25:42 PM
Ahhh, Romania. We have to knock out those gipsy bitches. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 06, 2007, 10:24:16 AM
Damn ! Stephanie Cano is out for 5-6 days and won't be there to play all matches of main round with French team. :(

Our opponent tonight : Angola, 5 times Africa champion, and 1st African team to be qualified for main round since World Championship is with 24 teams. Theorically, France should win.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Chulk on December 06, 2007, 03:16:54 PM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on December 06, 2007, 10:24:16 AM
Damn ! Stephanie Cano is out for 5-6 days and won't be there to play all matches of main round with French team. :(

Our opponent tonight : Angola, 5 times Africa champion, and 1st African team to be qualified for main round since World Championship is with 24 teams. Theorically, France should win.
Theorically, you should have beaten us in Rugby World Cup...  ;)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 06, 2007, 03:57:56 PM
Quote from: Chulk on December 06, 2007, 03:16:54 PM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on December 06, 2007, 10:24:16 AM
Damn ! Stephanie Cano is out for 5-6 days and won't be there to play all matches of main round with French team. :(

Our opponent tonight : Angola, 5 times Africa champion, and 1st African team to be qualified for main round since World Championship is with 24 teams. Theorically, France should win.
Theorically, you should have beaten us in Rugby World Cup...  ;)
It was quite similar : numerous Argentinian rugby players play in France, and some top players of Angola played in French handball teams too a few years ago. So France have to face an opponent that perfectly know us, which is an advantage for them. Let's hope the result will be in favor of France this time...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 06, 2007, 09:30:31 PM
Damn ! France was leading and then, for unknown reason, French players stopped playing properly and let Angola come back and take the lead. When they finally reacted, it was too late. Angola won 29-27. :-\
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Chulk on December 06, 2007, 10:37:35 PM
It's like French players are afraid to win when they are the favourites and have the pressure on their side... Too bad for France.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 07, 2007, 12:16:59 PM
Quote from: Chulk on December 06, 2007, 10:37:35 PM
It's like French players are afraid to win when they are the favourites and have the pressure on their side... Too bad for France.
Exactly, we were not considred favorite versus Croatia, and we finally won. We were logical favorite versus Angola, and lost stupidly a match that should be won. France was leading 16-11 at the half-time. We stupidly let Angola back into the match at the beginning of the 2nd half (Angola was also helped by referees who gave a lot of 2 minutes exclusion to French players), and then Angola played well and never let France come back.

Hungary came back into the business in group 2 with a victory 28-26.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 08, 2007, 08:33:12 PM
Angola won versus Croatia ! Angola seems really good this year. :o
France won 29-23 versus Macedonia. :)
France is now sure to be qualified, whatever the results of the last 2 days because Croatia and Macedonia has no point and they both lost versus France. So France is sure to be at least 4th of the group, even if we loose versus Norway and Russia (which will probably happen...) while Macedonia and Croatia win their last 2 matches.

Group 2 : another draw for Hungary : 30-30 versus Germany. It will be hard for Hungary versus Romania for the next match : Romania won 3 matches of 3 on the main round, and just won 32-19 versus Spain while Hungary got only a draw versus Spain some days ago...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on December 08, 2007, 11:04:50 PM
Anyway I'm looking forward to see the result of Floyd Mayweather vs Ricky Hatton.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on December 09, 2007, 07:13:01 PM
Mayweather...  :-\

HUNGARY - romania 34-31  ;D  :P
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 09, 2007, 07:24:23 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 09, 2007, 07:13:01 PM
HUNGARY - romania 34-31  ;D  :P
Are you drunk ? Result is Romania 34-31 Hungary. :D Romania remains without defeat, like Norway in group 1.

Group 1 : Croatia lost again. Versus Norway it's not a surprise but I didn't expected Croatia to be so weak.
Angola won versus Macedonia.
Remaining match to play is Russia-France. It will be hard for France, even if Russia is not unbeatable (they lost versus Norway 22-21 yesterday). So far it's 11-6 for Russia after 21 minutes... :-\
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on December 09, 2007, 08:02:15 PM
check it again t?ff

http://www.handball2007.fr/cm/spip.php?article547
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on December 09, 2007, 08:23:21 PM
Russia - France 31-20

That's a real result. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on December 09, 2007, 08:26:59 PM
Interesting results of today:

Russia-France 31-20
Hungary-Romania 34-31

It seems the sports (at least) took revenge on the history, when France stole huge areas of the Hungarian land in favour of Romania. :)

Let's hope the handball WCH will continue to produce very enjoyable results like these! :)

Forever HUNGARY!!! :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 09, 2007, 10:14:39 PM
Yep, it's Hungary 34-31 Romania

Damn, it was written the opposite when I checked before, and now they talk about a Hungarian victory ? What the hell are doing the French reporters ?!


Russia-France 31-20 :-X

Anyway, there's nothing else to say about our result versus Russia : it was expected, and the manager decided to change the team and let play the usual back-up players as France is already sure to be qualified. I hope it won't be such a big defeat versus Norway... ::)

In 2003, Hungary was favorite and let France came back into the match (just like France did versus Angola, letting Angola win finally). And France won the World Championship in the end.
Now it's different : numerous French players retired after 2003 and France is not back to the top teams. We are a good team, but not a top team as we were in 2003. Norway, Russia and Hungary are supposed to be the 3 top teams, even if Hungary hadn't proved it really before tonight compared to Russia and Norway. :P
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on December 10, 2007, 11:14:46 PM
We have to avoid a match with France. Reason is simple: it's easily predictable that refrees will help the home team. Even the stronger Russia sounds better for me... But of course Angola is the best choice. We just have to make a draw with South Korea... ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 10, 2007, 11:37:06 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 10, 2007, 11:14:46 PM
We have to avoid a match with France. Reason is simple: it's easily predictable that refrees will help the home team. Even the stronger Russia sounds better for me... But of course Angola is the best choice. We just have to make a draw with South Korea... ;D
France will loose versus Norway, so we will be 4th of our group. Therefore, you just have not to be 1st of your group to avoid playing versus France in quarter-finals. :D It will also depend of the result of Germany-Romania.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: zaqrack on December 11, 2007, 07:44:54 PM
as I heard we did the same against Korea  8)

btw. I would sell my daughter and half kingdom for fresh seafood supply ;)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 11, 2007, 08:05:59 PM
After a marvelous start (6-2 for France) versus Norway, then France had a bad period just like versus Angola. So, Norway took back the lead 8-6, and then 10-8. At this moment, Val?rie Nicols (French goalkeeper) did a great job and at the half-time France is leading 11-10. I wonder how will be the 2nd half...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on December 11, 2007, 08:09:58 PM
Norway - Spain/Korea
Germany - Angola
Hungary - Russia
France - romania

I predict the paper form: Norway vs Russia in the final...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on December 11, 2007, 08:10:44 PM
Quote from: zaqrack on December 11, 2007, 07:44:54 PM
as I heard we did the same against Korea  8)

Nope, Hungarian loss wasn't tactical - we just played very crappy.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 11, 2007, 08:13:41 PM
Even if France wins versus Norway, we will still be 4th of our group and Norway will still be 1st.

So far, sure QF are :
(G1 - G2, bold mean future winner from me)
Norway - South Korea or Spain
Russia - Hungary
Angola - Germany
France - Romania (yes, I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one :P)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 11, 2007, 08:15:09 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 11, 2007, 08:10:44 PM
Quote from: zaqrack on December 11, 2007, 07:44:54 PM
as I heard we did the same against Korea  8)

Nope, Hungarian loss wasn't tactical - we just played very crappy.
Korea was motivated : this victory would make them qualified 4th if Spain looses versus Poland. A draw would be sufficient for Spain to be qualified.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 11, 2007, 08:23:25 PM
France 19-17 Norway. That's tough ! 5 minutes remaining... A victory versus Norway would put up French motivation before fighting Romania.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 11, 2007, 08:26:32 PM
47' France 21-17 Norway
48' France 22-18 Norway
49' France 23-18 Norway
It seems we will win !
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 11, 2007, 08:31:57 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 11, 2007, 08:28:34 PM
(because of their language and their love to France)
That's right, Romanians love France. The opposite is far from true. :D
Regarding the language, Romania has a latin-like language, like Spain, Poprtugal, Italy and France.


Back to Handball : Brasil lost 21-24 versus Ukraine at the President's Cup. Ukraine is 13th of the World championship, Brasil only 14th. But yet it's better than Argentina. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 11, 2007, 08:35:26 PM
52' France 24-19 Norway :)
54' France 24-21 Norway :-\
56' France 24-22 Norway :-[
What happens ?
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 11, 2007, 08:37:47 PM
57' France 25-22 Norway :)
Aaaah, a good stop by Val?rie Nicolas and a goal for France following. We took back 3 goals in advance. I prefer that. ;)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 11, 2007, 08:40:58 PM
58' France 25-23 Norway :-\
59' France 26-23 Norway :)
60' France 26-24 Norway ;) France won ! ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: zaqrack on December 12, 2007, 12:59:37 AM
By the way we migrated through almost whole Russia, so it should be also part of Hungary  :P
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 12, 2007, 08:48:54 AM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on December 11, 2007, 08:15:09 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 11, 2007, 08:10:44 PM
Quote from: zaqrack on December 11, 2007, 07:44:54 PM
as I heard we did the same against Korea  8)

Nope, Hungarian loss wasn't tactical - we just played very crappy.
Korea was motivated : this victory would make them qualified 4th if Spain looses versus Poland. A draw would be sufficient for Spain to be qualified.
Back to the topic, Hungarian defeat versus Korea and Poland win versus Spain (by 1 point only : 30-29) means that South Korea is qualified to play (and loose) a QF versus Norway.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on December 12, 2007, 10:46:25 AM
Pittsburgh Penguins - Philadelphia Flyers 2-8 (2-2, 0-3, 0-3)

:P
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 13, 2007, 09:39:46 PM
Too bad for Hungary : they lead 34-31 and finally lost 36-35 versus Rusia in QF of female handball.
Germany won too but it was not easy for them too versus Angola.
Very easy victory from norway versus South Korea.

Right now it's the last match : Romania-France. At the half-time France lead 14-8 with a wonderfull defense.
But now Romania came back and match is really sharp now (17-17 at 45 minutes of the match) !!!

Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 13, 2007, 09:58:17 PM
End of regular time : 24-24 between France and Romania => extended time.

France lead 20-17, then Romania came back 20-20 and since that moment Romania always lead by 1 point and France always managed to get the draw each time from 20-20 to 24-24. Tought match !!!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 13, 2007, 10:11:11 PM
First 5 minutes of extended time : France lead 26-24 but romania came back 26-26. I'm going to get crazy !
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 13, 2007, 10:16:02 PM
27-27 after 2nd extended time of 5 minutes. There will be 2x5 minutes again. My heart is going to explode...!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 13, 2007, 10:26:37 PM
End of 3rd extended time period : 30-29for Romania. Romania lead twice by 1 point and France came back twice, but then France lost 2 easy goals and Romania didn't miss the penalty they got. :-[
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on December 13, 2007, 10:34:34 PM
oops its 34-30 to ROM and not too much to go...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 13, 2007, 10:37:26 PM
This is over, France missed too much passes during 2nd half and let Romania back. During extended time, France missed easy goals while Romania missed much less.
Final score : Romania 34-31 France :'(

So, SF are (bold = my tip for winners) :
Norway - Germany
Russia - Romania

classification matches will be :
South Korea - Angola
Hungary - France (according to the match played versus Russia, Hungary is now favorite for 5th place overall).
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on December 13, 2007, 10:41:42 PM
Damn it we have to face France... But at least we will beat Angola for the 7th place. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on December 13, 2007, 10:59:59 PM
I can't believe Denmark isn't even playing this tournament... We're olympic champions damnit...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on December 14, 2007, 12:41:04 PM
L?szl? Cseh broke the world record of short course 200 m individual medley swimming. Maybe he started to dope, his improvement is too visible in the last 8-10 months...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on December 14, 2007, 05:32:43 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 14, 2007, 12:41:04 PM
L?szl? Cseh broke the world record of short course 200 m individual medley swimming. Maybe he started to dope, his improvement is too visible in the last 8-10 months...

Another WR from him: he's the first human being in history under 4 minutes (3:59.33) in short course 400 m individual medley swimming.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 16, 2007, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: CTG on December 13, 2007, 10:41:42 PM
Damn it we have to face France... But at least we will beat Angola for the 7th place. ;D
1st part of this prediction was right, I hope for you that 2nd part will be too. ;D

Final will be (logically) Norway vs Russia
Match for 3rd place will be Germany vs Romania
Match for 5th place will be South Korea vs France
Match for 7th place will be Angola vs Hungary.
Bold means my favorite for each match.

Anyway, I'm still surprised to see that France beat hungary (32-27). After the match played by Hungary versus Russia, Hungary was my favorite for 5th place. France lost by 12 points versus Russia, and yesterday Romania (same level as France, look at the QF match between these 2 teams) lost by 10 points versus Russia. Hungary lost only by 1 point versus Russia, and they fall down by 5 points versus France. It seems really that Hungarian players are inconstants, able to be among the best (like versus Russia), or to be a middle-class team (like versus Spain, South Korea or France). Quite strange...

Also, we now know that Russia is qualified for Olympic Games in Beijing. Norway was already qualified as European champion. Winner of World championship will be qualified too. In case Norway is World champion, then the vice-champion of Europe will be qualified. Russia is vice-champion of Europe. So, whatever the result of the final match, Russia will be qualified for OG.

Nations qualified 3 to 7 will have the right to play qualificative tournaments for OG. Last chance for Hungary to play OG is to be 7th. 8th team in World championship won't be at OG, that's sure. Good luck Hungary. And go France, kick South Koreans' asses and take the 5th place. We beat Norway and Hungary and almost Romania, we deserve to be in top 5. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on December 16, 2007, 06:54:11 PM
Hungarian female handball players make this game without soul and real team unity while their nerves are weak. We deserved to suck versus Angola.

Shame on these b i t c h e s! (except G?rbicz)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on December 16, 2007, 07:27:19 PM
All Stars team of handball world cup:

Valerie Nicolas (FRA) -  Polina Vjakirjeva (RUS), Gro Hammerseng (NOR), Anita G?rbicz (HUN), Ionela Stanca-Gilca (ROM), Grit Jurack (GER), Jana Uszkova (RUS)

MVP: Katja Nyberg (NOR)
Top scorer: Grit Jurack (GER) 85 goals, 2nd: Anita G?rbicz (HUN) 80 goals
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on December 17, 2007, 09:09:51 AM
4 golden medals at short course swimming European championship (L?szl? Cseh 3, D?niel Gyurta 1)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on January 05, 2008, 06:28:58 PM
Female handball, European Champions League:

Slagelse-Gy?ri Audi ETO KC 20-24 (8-10)

G?rbicz wasn't in really good shape, she missed some penalties. Danish trainer, Anja Andrersen got a red card (what a surprise, guess for what ;D). ETO is the first in the group, independently from the last match of the group phase.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 05, 2008, 07:35:51 PM
Yep, she's the queen of red cards :)

Actually, I watched about 5 minutes of this match by chance. At one point, one of the hungarians suddenly scored a really kickass goal and I thought "ah, so this must be G?rbicz". And it was...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on January 06, 2008, 01:15:06 AM
In the women doubles final of Gold Coast tennis tournament:

Sz?vay ?gnes, Dinara Szafina (HUN, RUS, 3.) -  Zi Yan, Jie Zheng (both CHN, 2.) 6:1, 6:2
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 06, 2008, 01:36:17 AM
In the women double final of some other tournament:

Caroline Wozniacki and Venus Williams (DEN, USA) vs Elena Dementieva and Someone Else (RUS, N/A) 6-4 6-4
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on January 06, 2008, 02:32:31 AM
Dementieva is hot.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on January 13, 2008, 11:48:57 PM
Female handball, EHF Champions League:

Podravka Koprivnica - Gy?ri Audi ETO KC 33-40 (12-21)

G?rbicz was the best scorer of the team again with 9 goals. :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on January 15, 2008, 12:01:26 PM
Next group stage for the best 8 female handball teams in Europe:

Group 1

Gy?ri Audi ETO KC (HUN), Oltchim Valcea (ROM), Lada Toljatti (RUS), N?rnberg (GER)

Group 2

Hypo N? (AUT), Slagelse (DEN), Viborg (DEN), Zvezda Zvenigorod (RUS)

Valcea and Toljatti will be really hard opponents...

Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 17, 2008, 09:34:38 PM
Men handball Euro in norway, 1st day :

Group A :
Slovenia 34-32 Czech Rep.
Croatia - Poland is beeing played right now

Group B :
Russia 25-25 Montenegro
Denmark 26-27 Norway
Too bad for Denmark, but Norway had the advantage to play home. The draw of Russia may help Denmark

Group C :
Germany 36-24 Bielorussia
Hungary 35-28 Spain
Logical victory of Germany, good result for Hungary, Spain is never easy to play.

Group D :
France 32-31 Slovakia
Iceland - Sweden beeing played right now.
Logical but very difficult victory for France (current Euro champion) versus the weakest team of group D. I hope defence will get better for the next 2 matchs, else we will loose !
The last days for French team were crazy and preparation was not good : French team went to Budapest (2 matches won versus Hungary ;D) and then Spain (victory versus Argentina and Montenegro, defeat versus Spain), had numerous delay due to airplane late, they lost their equipement during the flights, ...
Last 10 days of preparation were just stupidly managed, we should have travelled only once, that means we should have played home versus Hungary (or another team) before going to spanish tournament. Now, French team arrives in the Euro competition beeing already tired. Stupid management IMO, I fear we won't stay Euro champion.

Anyway, winner of this tournament will be qualified for Olympic Games, except if Germany (already world champion and qualified for Olympic Games) is the winner. then I don't know if finalist of world championship (Poland) or finalist of this Euro will be qualified. Anyone knows ?
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on January 18, 2008, 01:54:08 PM
Very surprising victory versus Spain, our team showed something else when we prepared with playing versus Norway, Iceland and Portugal... Our goalkeeper showed world class performance!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on January 20, 2008, 01:35:36 PM
28:24!  ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 20, 2008, 03:46:50 PM
Quote from: JTK on January 20, 2008, 01:35:36 PM
28:24!  ;D
Yep, logical victory of Germany versus Hungary. Victory with the same score for France versus Sweden.
Last matches of 1st group today, with a world championship revenge for France versus Iceland.
Next week : France-Hungary, France-spain and France-Germany expected (except if Bielorussia beats Hungary tonight, which I don't think will happen), with French victory for all of them I hope. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 20, 2008, 09:37:57 PM
Results of teams concerned in the Stunts forum:

France-Iceland 30-21
Germany-Spain 22-30
Denmark-Russia 31-28
Hungary-Belarus 31-26

France qualified as group winners, carrying 4 pts to the main round.
Germany qualified by finishing 3rd in their group, carrying 2 pts to the main round.
Denmark qualified by finishing runner-up in their group, carrying 2 pts to the main round.
Hungary qualified as group winners, carrying 2 pts to the main round.

Main Round

Group I

Croatia 4, Norway 4, Denmark 2, Poland 2, Slovenia 0, Montenegro 0.

Group II

France 4, Hungary 2, Spain 2, Sweden 2, Germany 2, Iceland 0.

Olympic qualification:

The 2 best non-qualified teams (for the final olympic qualifying tournament) qualify for the final olympic qualifying tournament.

The winner of the ECH qualifies for the Olympics. If POL, DEN, FRA, CRO, RUS or ESP wins ECH or finishes 2nd behind Germany (this version is quite possible), ISL will automatically get qualified for the qualifying tournament.

Teams in competition for that 2 places: Norway (having 4 pts for the main round), Hungary (2), Sweden (2), Slovenia (0), Iceland (0 - but hopefully jumps out of competition because of things written above) and Montenegro (0). That means Hungary will probably have a key game for keeping olympic hopes alive against Sweden on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on January 21, 2008, 05:27:05 AM
Philadelphia Flyers - Ottawa Senators 6-1 !!!

Beware pens, we are coming!  ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on January 22, 2008, 09:38:57 PM
Typical Hungarian sports match in progress:

Hungary - Sweden 22-24

We can't win the important matches.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on January 22, 2008, 10:14:41 PM
27-27... Too bad!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 24, 2008, 10:59:25 AM
This tournament is becoming more fun that I had thought :) Our team is really stealing the headlines here now... Watch out Germany!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on January 24, 2008, 11:02:29 AM
f.u.c.k off iceland!!!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 24, 2008, 01:05:45 PM
Today is a great day.

Handball :
Group 1 : Germany is beaten by France, France is the only unbeaten team in this Euro and is sure to be in semi-finals while Spain (World champion in 2005) is already out. Germany (World champion 2007, thanks to the referee in semi-final versus France, no comment as we already talked about it) is also in great danger while Sweden seems to be back progressively to what it used the be (that is, the best team in the whole world during a decade).

I think that Sweden can beat Germany and be in semi-finals with France, they are better match after match while Germany know that they are already qualified for Olypic Games so they are less motivated.

Maybe Hungary can win versus France as France is now sure to be qualified and will give more rest to its best players during the match versus Hungary. But Hungary can't be in semi-finals anyway now, whatever the result of Sweden-Germany. The winner of Sweden-Germany will be in semi-finals, a draw between them will bring Sweden in semi-finals.

Group 1 : Denmark is not Olympic champion for nothing. They did it very well, getting better and better match after match, like Sweden. On the other hand, Croatia is still powerful but Norway is a real danger for Croatia, and today's match between them is a real quarter-final.

Denmark is almost already qualified, only a defeat of Denmark versus Slovenia and a draw between Croatia and Norway would put them out of the semi-finals (in this case Croatia and Norway would both be qualified).

Tennis : TSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !
Incredible victory versus Nadal in semi-final at Australian open : 6-2 6-3 6-2 !! Excellent. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 24, 2008, 04:44:38 PM
Some parts of your post are incorrect :)

Denmark is not olympic champion, only the female team. Croatia is the the male olympic champion. Besides, if Denmark loses against Slovenia and Croatia wins against Norway, Croatia and Slovenia will make the semis.

Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 24, 2008, 05:19:46 PM
Oh, right. Anyway, I hope to see France beating Denmark in final of this Euro. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 24, 2008, 08:20:46 PM
Results:

FRA-HUN 28-31
ESP-ISL 33-26

With that:

FRA 8
SWE 5 (+2) (4 matches only)
HUN 5 (-2)
ESP 4 (ESP is ahead, beat Germany)
GER 4 (4 matches only)
ISL 2

POL-MNE 39-23
SLO-DEN 23-28

With that:

DEN 8
CRO 6 (4 matches only)
POL 5 (+7)
NOR 5 (+2, 4 matches only)
SLO 4
MNE 0

In chase of olympic qualification: SWE, NOR, HUN

HUN is qualified for the OCT (Olympic Qualifying Tournament) if:
-Germany beats Sweden by 4 goals
-Sweden beats Germany, and Norway loses against Croatia

HUN will have a match for the place in OCT if:
-Norway loses against Croatia, and Germany doesn't beat Sweden by 4 goals (for the 7th place)
-Sweden beats Germany, and Norway plays a draw against Croatia (for the 5th place)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 24, 2008, 08:32:03 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on January 24, 2008, 08:20:46 PM
FRA-HUN 28-31
Thanks to French players turn-over (we were already qualified 1st of our group so it was logical to let the best have some rest), Hungary may have a chance to reach qualification tournament according to other results. Please, say thanks to France (I know you'll hate to do that ;D).
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 24, 2008, 08:35:07 PM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on January 24, 2008, 08:32:03 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on January 24, 2008, 08:20:46 PM
FRA-HUN 28-31
Thanks to French players turn-over (we were already qualified 1st of our group so it was logical to let the best have some rest), Hungary may have a chance to reach qualification tournament according to other results. Please, say thanks to France (I know you'll hate to do that ;D).

Thanks, France! ;)

And I want to say thanks to Germany and/or Croatia by the end of the night! :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: lised on January 24, 2008, 08:47:40 PM
Sports? Never heard of it  ???
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 24, 2008, 09:52:37 PM
Very bad results tonight...

SWE-GER 29:31 and CRO-NOR 23:23

Norway and Sweden clinched last qualification spots. Hungary finished in 8th place.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 25, 2008, 08:16:33 AM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on January 24, 2008, 08:35:07 PM
Thanks, France! ;)
It's good to see you were able to say it. Sadly, Germany and Croatia were not as friendly with hungary as France was. Too bad for you... :-\

edit : I forgot to mention that semi-finals will be Denmark-Germany and France-Croatia.
If Germany is in final, then France (or Croatia) will sure be qualified for Olympic Games as Germany is already qualified, even if Germany win the Euro title.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on January 25, 2008, 08:39:27 AM
Akoss:

Philadelphia Flyers - Pittsburgh Penguins 4-3 :P

;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on January 25, 2008, 01:40:06 PM
Djokovic white-washed Federer, wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! ;D

I hate Federer as much as I used to hate Sampras.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 25, 2008, 02:19:37 PM
Come on... Roger Federer is one of the hottest men in the world, along with Robert Smith, Dave Gahan and Simon Gallup
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on January 25, 2008, 03:16:00 PM
You must love Tyson Gay too... :P
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 27, 2008, 12:39:09 PM
Sharp semi-final results in handball, and finally it will be Denmark-Croatia for the final and not Germany-France. Damn it !
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on January 27, 2008, 03:35:54 PM
And even Tsonga lost, too bad for France... Serbian tennis is very strong now!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 27, 2008, 05:02:11 PM
(http://www.vtennis.co.uk/Images/Tennis/Roger-Federer/roger-federer-photo/roger-federer-photo.JPG)(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l226/mikaenkeli/RobertSmith1989_269.jpg)(http://english.people.com.cn/200706/26/images/xinsrc_53206042511473433105318.jpg)(http://images.quizilla.com/R/reddmrose/1122651852_Mdavegrand.jpg)(http://www.beatrix.pro.br/mofo/imagens/cure_simon.jpg)

Can you spot the odd one out?
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 27, 2008, 05:39:54 PM
Looks like we won :) Judging by the shouts in the room next door. I'm too emo to watch sports.
Eat that, everyone else! (except South Americans)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on January 27, 2008, 06:03:11 PM
Nuke on emos!!! ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: JTK on January 28, 2008, 09:35:03 AM
Congratulations Denmark!

I hope, that this was the last European Championship like that, too many games in too less time... in our newspaper Nikola Karabatic is very unhappy about the championship, like many players, and is not looking forward to the monday morning handball training today.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 28, 2008, 02:19:16 PM
Quote from: JTK
Congratulations Denmark!
Sure, nice match. I'm not sure France could have won in final versus a motivated Denmark like that. Sadly for France, Danish victory makes our Olympic qualify group harder : France will organize a tournament at home at the end of May versus Spain (ouch), Norway (in progress, still dangerous) and Tunisia (one of the best team of Africa continent) ! It will be hard...
A victory of Croatia would have made us fight an easier group (Russia, Algeria and future vice-champion of Asia). ::)

Quote from: JTKI hope, that this was the last European Championship like that, too many games in too less time... in our newspaper Nikola Karabatic is very unhappy about the championship, like many players, and is not looking forward to the monday morning handball training today.
Sure, it was difficult for all the players to perform so many matches in less than 2 weeks... Obviously Karabatic was one of the most tired as he played a lot because he is a key member of French team. He had some rest versus Hungary as France was already qualified for semi-finals, but versus Croatia he lost too many shoots that should have not been missed. This happens to him each time he is too tired. He played much better versus Germany for the 3rd place match (France 36-26 Germany).

Apart from that, Sweden proved to be back progressively to their glory with reaching 5th place versus Norway while Poland exploit during World championship (finalist versus Germany) seems far away.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 28, 2008, 10:41:54 PM
Thank you on behalf of my country :)

About the many games in little time, our coach listed it as part of the reason why we won: we had all 16 players in rotation, so everybody got a decent amount of rest from time to time. This has really been a big thing here, TV was on for 3 hours just broadcasting the homecoming of the team, being celebrated all the way from the airport to the "Town hall square" in Copenhagen, lots of people there... I suppose now that our football team is dropping in quality, people turn to handball instead. I'm a bit sad that Croatia won the semi final against France, because if Denmark had played France in the final, we would have had a chance to beat all the good teams in tournament and be a more true champion. Now France can still say: "maybe we would have won" (although I acknowledge that you didn't, Krys :))
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on January 30, 2008, 08:13:56 AM
It seems that sport topics are very popular in this forum. I suggest to open a separate subforum/childboard for it (moving all the sport topics there).
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 03, 2008, 09:03:38 PM
Alba Volán's first year in the very strong Austrian Erste Bank Ice Hockey League has finished at the moment.

Qualifying Round for the 7th-10th place (7th-8th joined the playoff):

7. ZM Olimpija Ljubljana (Slovenia) 12 pts (25:10)
8. TWK Innsbrucker Haie 10 pts (19:18)
--------------------------------------------------------
9. EC Graz 99ers 4 pts (9:19)
10. Alba Volán SC (Hungary) 4 pts (9:15)

(between 9th and 10th place, the results between the two teams decided: Alba-Graz 0-1, Graz-Alba 1-2 after penalty shootout)

Main Round for 1st-6th place:

1. EC Vienna Capitals 18 pts (40:23)
2. EC Klagenfurter AC 16 pts (45:30)
3. EHC Liwest Black Wings Linz 14 pts (36:35)
4. EC Red Bull Salzburg 13 pts (37:33)
5. EC Pasut Villacher SV 7 pts (29:44)
6. HK Acroni Jesenice (Slovenia) 6 pts (24:47)

Quarter finals:
Vienna-Innsbruck, KAC-Olimpija, Linz-Jesenice, Salzburg-VSV

The Regular Season standings were (which preceded the Main/Qualifying Round, and meant some bonus points for those)

1. EHC Liwest Black Wings Linz 53 pts (111:91)
2. EC Vienna Capitals 52 pts (122:86)
3. EC Red Bull Salzburg 48 pts (121:108)
4. HK Acroni Jesenice (Slovenia) 47 pts (100:94)
5. EC Klagenfurter AC 45 pts (119:102)
6. EC Pasut Villacher SV 42 pts (109:109)
-----------------------------------------------------
7. TWK Innsbrucker Haie 41 pts (124:116)
8. ZM Olimpija Ljubljana (Slovenia) 38 pts (108:107)
9. EC Graz 99ers 35 pts (99:132)
10. Alba Volán SC (Hungary) 14 pts (69:137)

Matches when we got at least a point:
Jesenice-Volán 2-1 a.e.t. (regular season)
Graz-Volán 4-3 a.e.t. (regular season)
Volán-Villach 3-2 (regular season)
Ljubljana-Volán 1-4 (regular season)
Volán-Innsbruck 1-2 a.p.s. (regular season)
Volán-Linz 3-0 (regular season)
Graz-Volán 4-3 a.e.t. (regular season)
Villach-Volán 3-6 (regular season)
Volán-Salzburg 4-1 (regular season)
Innsbruck-Volán 1-3 (qualifying round)
Graz-Volán 1-2 a.p.s. (qualifying round)

Biggest defeats:
Salzburg-Volán 7-0
Volán-Innsbruck 0-6

Very tough season for Alba Volán... now they can concentrate on the Hungarian Championship, where they are hot favourites. Our top players were really worthy for the Austrian League, they were dangerous for all of the teams: Palkovics scored 37 points in 42 matches (20 goals, 17 assists), they were among the league's really best, he was chosen for the All Stars game, too. Ocskay had 29 points (8+21), he was very good, too. Our team is very poor related to the Austrian teams, so we could not afford buying some great, NHL-level players like them. The Austrian teams were led by their foreign (American, Canadian) players, while Volán's best players were Hungarians - and the Palkovics line performed really very well. They were equal to the lines of the Austrian teams, which were "A" group level lines - but Hungary does not have more "A" group level players, and cannot afford buying international "A" group level players. In an "A" group level championship, it is not enough. I think a division-1 level hockey country's elite team did their best in a very strong "A" level championship. Let's hope they can join the league next year, too. I hope this was a great training for the division-1 WCH in April, played in Sapporo, Japan (against Ukraine, Japan, Estonia, Lithuania and Croatia).

Sorry if I was boring. :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 03, 2008, 11:57:48 PM
Would you skid in Klagenfurt? ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 04, 2008, 05:45:57 PM
Nice goal from Anita Görbicz. ;)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eBYbQ6AB-nc
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Chulk on February 04, 2008, 05:53:06 PM
Quote from: CTG on February 04, 2008, 05:45:57 PM
Nice goal from Anita Görbicz. ;)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eBYbQ6AB-nc
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 09, 2008, 10:48:00 PM
Nice results today in the NHL.

Philadelphia Flyers - New York Rangers 0-2
Pittsburgh Penguins - Los Angeles Kings 4-2

Well, Pens are quite good without injured Sidney Crosby, too! Great! And we are around halfway in Crosby's injury period (6-8 weeks)!

Division Standings (Atlantic)

1 Penguins 67 points/55 matches
2 Flyers 65/54
3 Devils 64/55
4 Rangers 62/58
5 Islanders 54/55

Conference Standings (Eastern, only those who'd make playoffs as of current standings, *: division leaders)

1 Ottawa Senators 70/55*
2 Pittsburgh Penguins 67/55*
3 Carolina Hurricanes 58/57*
4 Montréal Canadiens 67/55
5 Philadelphia Flyers 65/54
6 New Jersey Devils 64/55
7 New York Rangers 62/58
8 Boston Bruins 61/54

Forever Pittsburgh Penguins, go for the Stanley Cup! Dicksucker Philadelphia Cryers! :)


Euro Ice Hockey Challenge Results

Tilburg, Netherlands

Hungary came without their best players (Szuper, Vas J., Vas M., Szélig, Ladányi, Palkovics, Ocskay) in order to test the 3rd and 4th line, and some new young players. The results so far are not bad.

Ukraine-Hungary 6-2 (okay against an A group level team)
Netherlands-Croatia 1-0 (surprisingly narrow win)

Ukraine-Croatia 8-0 (easy as expected)
Netherlands-Hungary 0-3 (good away win for Hungary with this not-its-best squad)

BÖFF!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 09, 2008, 10:51:04 PM
Tennis, Tier II WTA Tournament in Paris (600 000 USD)

quarter final match:
Ágnes Szávay (HUN, 7.) - Daniela Hantuchova (SVK, 2.) 7:6 6:1

semi final match:
Ágnes Szávay (HUN, 7.) - Elena Dementieva (RUS, 4.) 6:3 1:6 7:5

final:
Ágnes Szávay (HUN, 7.) - Anna Chakvetadze (RUS, 1.) tomorrow, LIVE on Eurosport

GREEEEEEEAT

BÖFF!!!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 10, 2008, 06:49:22 PM
I hope Szávay will lose. :P

penguins can't fly - we can! :D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 10, 2008, 09:47:50 PM
Quote from: CTG on February 10, 2008, 06:49:22 PM
I hope Szávay will lose. :P

penguins can't fly - we can! :D

Today's match:

Pittsburgh Penguins - Philadelphia Flyers 4-3!!!   ;D ;D ;D

DICKSUCKER FLYERS!!!

MALKIN FOR PRESIDENT
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 10, 2008, 09:55:42 PM
But Szávay lost. ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Chulk on February 12, 2008, 10:16:01 PM
Crazy accident in NHL! Richard Zednick almost dies after a teammate cut his Carotid artery with his skate! Lucky for him, the stadium had a clinic within and doctors could save him. Look at how the ice ended...
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 12, 2008, 11:29:49 PM
What a shame it didn't happen to Malkin (PIT)... ;D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 16, 2008, 08:14:43 PM
A legendary record is broken: Krisztina Egerszegi (five times olympic, two times world, nine times European champion) made an incredible world record in women's 200 backstroke swimming with her unique beautiful swimming technique in 1991 (2:06.62). Now it's over after 17 years - one of the new era's dope b i t c h, Kirsty Coventry beated it (2:06.39). :(

Female handball, European Champions League:

Györi Audi ETO KC - Nürnberg 30-25 (17-11)

Görbicz scored 12 goals... ;)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on February 17, 2008, 03:08:11 AM
It's really sad... Egerszegi was far the best dope-free female swimmer, her record should have lasted forever... I cannot weave into words what I am feeling... doping beat beautiful and technique swimming now... Egerszegi is the best, no matter what the others say...

skid YOU AFRICAN Helen!!!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 17, 2008, 06:20:01 AM
Don't worry, if she's too doped, it will be found out at some point, and the record will be erased. Like Marion Jones' records.

Only big doper who's cover has never been blown is Lance Armstrong. And I'msure he will never admit anything.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 17, 2008, 10:20:44 PM
It has to be mentioned that:

1, rules changed since 1991, swimmers are allowed to make more movements under the water after turning ---> big advantage, at least a few tenth seconds/turn

2, there were no hyper-streamlined swimsuites in 1991 ---> 1-2 second avantage

3, Dopes, muscles vs swimming style. Egerszegi was world famous for her unique swimming technique (very harmonic moves, no struggling) and wasn't really muscular. Now check the current champions, making half of their training in a gym and not in the water...

Egerszegi used to win her races with a HUGE gap. I guess with the same rules and swimsuites she would make an easy 2:03.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 22, 2008, 07:04:03 PM
Tomorrow night we have a great match again in heavyweight professional boxing!

Wladimir Klitschko (world champion of IBF and IBO, won 49, lost 3 matches, 44 K.O.)
vs
Sultan Ibragimov (world champion of WBO, won 22, drawn 1 match, 17 K.O.)

Maybe the most exciting heavyweight event of the last few years! Don't miss it - somebody will do a really big knockout! ;)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Chulk on February 25, 2008, 09:38:15 PM
Taylor's Revenge! Awful injury for Croatian (Brazilian) Eduardo da Silva. He won't be at Euro 2008, and some pesimistic experts say he might not be able to play football again.

Here (http://www.periodistadigital.com/imgs/20080224/da_silva_lesion_250-01.jpg) you can see a pic of the injury.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 25, 2008, 09:44:08 PM
Still unbeatable... My team faced maybe the stongest European club in female handball. And we won! ;)

Female handball, European Champions League:

Györi ETO KC - Oltchim Valcea (ROM) 30-27 (16-13)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Chulk on February 25, 2008, 09:47:03 PM
Quote from: CTG on February 25, 2008, 09:44:08 PM
Still unbeatable... My team faced maybe the stongest European club in female handball. And we won! ;)

Female handball, European Champions League:

Györi ETO KC - Oltchim Valcea (ROM) 30-27 (16-13)
The maybe your team is the strongest European club in female handball...  ;)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Duplode on February 26, 2008, 12:40:24 AM
Quote from: Chulk on February 25, 2008, 09:38:15 PM
Taylor's Revenge! Awful injury for Croatian (Brazilian) Eduardo da Silva. He won't be at Euro 2008, and some pesimistic experts say he might not be able to play football again.

Here (http://www.periodistadigital.com/imgs/20080224/da_silva_lesion_250-01.jpg) you can see a pic of the injury.

Damn, that was very depressing  :( It's scary how it seems spetacular leg fractures became more common in world-class footbal in those last three or so years - Cissé twice, Alan Smith, to a lesser extent Totti and now Eduardo... If anything, at least those recent cases seem to indicate prognostics are not necessarily "fatal" with current medicine advances - and BTW, latest estimates from Arsenal about Eduardo are ~9 months time for full recovery.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 26, 2008, 08:12:50 AM
Quote from: Chulk on February 25, 2008, 09:47:03 PM
Quote from: CTG on February 25, 2008, 09:44:08 PM
Still unbeatable... My team faced maybe the stongest European club in female handball. And we won! ;)

Female handball, European Champions League:

Györi ETO KC - Oltchim Valcea (ROM) 30-27 (16-13)
The maybe your team is the strongest European club in female handball...  ;)

Definitely they aren't the best team. They won't win the final. 100 percent.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 26, 2008, 09:37:09 AM
The danish teams also appear to suck this year. It's a good thing I don't care. I only care about AGF, my local football team. A team of Stunts fame because we spent part of a memorable evening of WSM 2005 by their stadium.
After a problematic start of the season, we finally got things going at the end of the autumn with 7 points in the last 4 matches. The standings are as follows:

1 AaB                               18 11 3 4 36-27 36
2 FC København                 18 9 7 2 23-11 34
3 AC Horsens                     18 8 6 4 27-24 30
4 FC Midtjylland                  18 8 5 5 26-22 29
5 OB                                 18 6 10 2 27-15 28
6 Randers FC                      18 7 5 6 25-15 26
7 FC Nordsjælland                18 6 7 5 28-25 25
8 Esbjerg fB                        18 6 4 8 35-33 22
9 Brøndby IF                       18 5 6 7 23-26 21
10 AGF                              18 5 3 10 20-28 18
---------------------------------
11 Viborg                           18 4 2 12 15-36 14
12 Lyngby                          18 2 4 12 18-41 10


Things are looking interesting in the top, with Horsens a huge surprise at 3rd place, and Brøndby a big disappointment at 9th place.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on February 26, 2008, 10:22:49 AM
BJ: football is another topic... :D
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on March 01, 2008, 06:00:19 PM
Female handball, European Champions League:

Nürnberg - Györi Audi ETO KC 25-36 (13-18)

Anita Görbicz scored 12 goals. ;)

This results also means that ETO is already in semi-finals, independently from the last two matches. :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on March 16, 2008, 06:35:27 PM
It's a great game, Pittsburgh Penguins-Philadelphia Flyers 5-1 (in the 35th minute). Crosby is injured, not playing, we're doing this without the young gun! BÖFF!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on March 16, 2008, 07:47:24 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on March 16, 2008, 06:35:27 PM
It's a great game, Pittsburgh Penguins-Philadelphia Flyers 5-1 (in the 35th minute). Crosby is injured, not playing, we're doing this without the young gun! BÖFF!

Don't be so happy, you will be deleted from my MSN. :P
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on March 16, 2008, 08:09:54 PM
PITTSBURGH PENGUINS - PHILADELPHIA FLYERS 7-1

awesome victory against our eternal rival, giving a chance for Buffalo to knock them out of the playoff berths!!! böff! i'm very happy this evening! :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 05, 2008, 08:21:56 PM
Pittsburgh-Philadelphia 4-2
Pittsburgh ensured its Atlantic division title, and still in chase for Eastern conference title. Will start the playoffs from 1st or 2nd position.
Philadelphia ensured its playoff berth. Will start the playoffs from 6th, 7th or 8th position.

Remaining games from the season for these teams:
Philadelphia-Pittsburgh

Possible conference quarterfinal opponents for them:
Pittsburgh: Boston, Ottawa, Philadelphia
Philadelphia: Pittsburgh, Montréal, Washington, Carolina.

Division-1 Ice Hockey WCH will get its start soon. After a season in the Austrian league for Volán, after building some good young players in the team, after knowing that János Vas (Iowa Stars, AHL) can come this year, after our players playing in the French league (Márton Vas, Balázs Ladányi, Viktor Szélig) finished a great season, after knowing that the Palkovics-Ocskay star pairing is in great form, after knowing the Ukrainian team are not as strong as last year's Slovenian team was, we have a small chance to promote to level "A". Japan and Estonia could be a tough opponent, too. Japan, 3rd seed behind Ukraine and Hungary, will be playing on home ice. Lithuania and Croatia should not mean a serious threat to our national team.

First match, 13th April in Sapporo: HUN-EST
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: CTG on April 13, 2008, 10:10:15 PM
Very expensive victory for Györi ETO in female handball, Hungarian Cup final. Our team white-washed the opponent (ETO-Dunaferr 30-20), but we lost Görbicz for several weeks because of a very stupid injury (broken ribbon in her ankle). This is the worst nightmare before the EHF Champions League semi-finals... :(
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 14, 2008, 06:34:29 PM
Ice hockey, as always

NHL

Eastern Conference Quarterfinals
Montréal (1st seed)-Boston (8th) 4-1, 3-2, 1-2, MTL leads 2-1
Pittsburgh (2nd)-Ottawa (7th) 4-0, 5-3, PIT leads 2-0
Washington (3rd)-Philadelphia (6th) 5-4, 0-2, series tied at 1-1
New Jersey (4th)-NY Rangers (5th) 1-4, 1-2, 4-3, NYR leads 2-1

Western Conference Quarterfinals
Detroit (1st)-Nashville (8th) 3-1, 4-2, DET leads 2-0
San José (2nd)-Calgary (7th) 2-3, 2-0, 3-4, CGY leads 2-1
Minnesota (3rd)-Colorado (6th) 2-3, 3-2, series tied at 1-1
Anaheim (4th)-Dallas (5th) 0-4, 2-5, DAL leads 2-0

Division I WCH

Group A: Austria (1st seed, relegated from elite division, host), Poland (2nd), Kazakhstan (3rd), Great Britain (4th), Netherlands (5th), South Korea (6th, promoted from Division II)

Group B: Ukraine (1st seed, relegated from elite division), Hungary (2nd), Japan (3rd, host), Estonia (4th), Lithuania (5th), Croatia (6th, promoted from Division II)

3 points for victory, 2 points for victory in overtime/shootout, 1 point for loss in overtime/shootout, 0 point for a loss.

INNSBRUCK ARENA

NED-KAZ 3-6
GBR-POL 1-1, Poland wins in penalty shootout
KOR-AUT 0-8

POL-NED 6-4
KAZ-KOR 3-0 after 2 periods
AUT-GBR 20:30 CET

Day 3 (Wednesday): KOR-GBR, POL-KAZ, AUT-NED

SAPPORO ARENA

CRO-UKR 0-4
EST-HUN 3-5 (1-2, 2-1, 0-2, Hungarian goals by: Kovács 2, Ladányi, Vas M., Fekete)
LTU-JPN 0-5

UKR-EST 3-1
HUN-LTU 6-0 (2-0, 2-0, 2-0, Hungarian goals by: Ocskay 2, Vas M., Palkovics, Kovács, Ladányi)
JPN-CRO 3-0

Day 3 (Wednesday): CRO-EST, UKR-LTU, HUN-JPN (the winner will probably fight for promotion on Saturday against the Ukrainians; Hungary is the better team but it's always hard to play against the fast skating Japanese - and they are playing at home... I can't, I won't and I don't even dare to predict the outcome of that decisive match)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 18, 2008, 08:05:04 PM
Hungary-Japan 4-2 (lucky circumstances, but we won :) )
Hungary-Croatia 3-0

Standings:

1 Hungary 12/4
2 Ukraine 11/4
3 Japan 7/4
4 Lithuania 3/4
5 Croatia 2/4
6 Estonia 1/4

The situation is like in the 2002 Division I WCH, we will play the final and decisive battle for promotion. That year we lost 2-6 to Denmark. This year there was no dominant team in this group, I think we have more chance now. Hungarian ice hockey team have never played in Pool A since the early years of ice hockey (when there were only a few countries playing this great game).

NHL news:

Pittsburgh Penguins swept Ottawa Senators out of the Stanley Cup playoffs, 4-0 win of series.
Dirty Philadelphia leads series against Washington 3-1.
Pittsburgh will probably face the New York Rangers in the Conference Semifinals.

BÖFF!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on April 18, 2008, 09:52:54 PM
Who are you playing in the final?

Denmark will be playing the A-group championship in a few weeks! As usual, the group will have two impossible matches vs ice hockey giants, and one difficult match with an equal team, which makes all the difference :) I hope we can surprise!
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 18, 2008, 10:10:45 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on April 18, 2008, 09:52:54 PM
Who are you playing in the final?

Denmark will be playing the A-group championship in a few weeks! As usual, the group will have two impossible matches vs ice hockey giants, and one difficult match with an equal team, which makes all the difference :) I hope we can surprise!

Against Ukraine of course ;)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 19, 2008, 05:28:25 PM
We have done it! That's amazing! We were better than the Ukrainian team, and won against them 4-2! Hungary will travel for 2009 WCH in Switzerland! Let's hope we will meet Denmark and/or France and/or Germany there! :)
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on April 19, 2008, 05:51:19 PM
Congratulations!

I agree, you should meet Denmark there :P

If we're still in the A group by then, that is... Our only NHL player (Frans Nielsen) just dropped out of the WC squad too.
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 19, 2008, 07:46:04 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on April 19, 2008, 05:51:19 PM
Congratulations!

I agree, you should meet Denmark there :P

If we're still in the A group by then, that is... Our only NHL player (Frans Nielsen) just dropped out of the WC squad too.

Thanks!

For the Danish, the opponents are: Russia, Czech Republic, Italy in the WCH group this year. If you can beat Italy (I think you have a fair chance to do this), you avoid playing in the relegation playoff (where 2 out of 4 teams get relegated).

Btw I think this year France and Italy will get relegated. (Promoted: Hungary and probably Austria).

www.iihf.com
Title: Re: Sports
Post by: BonzaiJoe on April 20, 2008, 02:47:22 PM
Wow, great group for Denmark. We should be able to beat Italy, and while we will probably lose vs Russia and Czech Republic, it would have been worse to have Canada, Sweden, Finland or Slovakia.