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Title: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on November 07, 2005, 08:06:55 PM
well here you are.

today my new, and most beautiful bike ever was born after months of saving money and planning the setup:

(http://stunts.mine.nu/albums/zaq_20051107/dscf0007.jpg)

some more pics here: http://stunts.mine.nu/albums/zaq_20051107

for me bike season doesnt stop with winter, so we are looking forward some great adventures :)[/img]
Title: Bike topic
Post by: CTG on November 12, 2005, 11:26:58 PM
I want to try Tatran and some other good beers from Slovakia and Czech Republic. Beer is my bread. :D

Oooops, off-topic? Revans? :D
Title: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on November 28, 2005, 10:46:34 PM
this is a bike part for AKOSS POO!

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/real-man.html

;)
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 29, 2005, 12:15:31 AM
Well, well... I would rather say that there are no unisex bikes. It's sad that the girls also started to ride the bike with male frame. Only to act like men. I would recommend to THEM (to the maleish bitches) this granite saddle. :P
Title: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on November 29, 2005, 12:42:17 AM
They started to ride male frames because there were no frames for girls.

My girlfriend rides a frame specificly designed for women, so dont worry ;)
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 29, 2005, 12:46:18 AM
It's fashion now to ride male frames for women. Maybe that's the reason why the bike producers don't really tend to construct bikes with a female frame. But for a really feminine girl, who likes to ride a bike, it's still available to search for a bike designed for women.

One BIG red point to your girlfriend! ;)
Title: Re: Bike topic
Post by: Shoegazing Leo on November 29, 2005, 07:40:51 PM
Quote from: "zaqrack"well here you are.

today my new, and most beautiful bike ever was born after months of saving money and planning the setup:



some more pics here: http://stunts.mine.nu/albums/zaq_20051107

for me bike season doesnt stop with winter, so we are looking forward some great adventures :)[/img]

This remember a music: eu tinha uma bike verde. Hoje ela nao existe mais. Se ela estivesse aqui, eu n?o queimaria meus p?s. Para para para Bauea, onde o vento vai!...
Title: Re: Bike topic
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 06, 2006, 06:41:06 PM
Quote from: "zaqrack"
Picture disappeared... :?

Why attachement feature is disabled ? I can't attach pictures of my bike... :?
Title: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on January 06, 2006, 07:22:38 PM
it should be enabled! what cant you attach?
Title: Bike topic
Post by: al il professore on January 07, 2006, 10:13:22 PM
i cannot see the pictures of zak
Title: Bike topic
Post by: JTK on January 08, 2006, 01:08:47 PM
Neither me, your link is not free to go to.
Title: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on January 08, 2006, 01:27:55 PM
i see!
thats because I reinstalled my gallery software
http://stunts.mine.nu/gallery

http://stunts.mine.nu/pics/v/bike/zaq_20051223/PICT0003.JPG.html

here is my bike :)
Title: Bike topic
Post by: JTK on January 08, 2006, 04:42:37 PM
Yes , now it works.

You still are the most maniac bike pornograph I know  :D
Title: Bike topic
Post by: al il professore on January 08, 2006, 06:20:54 PM
(http://perso.wanadoo.fr/pere.hendaye/velo.jpg) (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/pere.hendaye/velo1.jpg) the warproof city bike weights 12,9 kilos
Title: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on January 08, 2006, 08:21:20 PM
wow you have the same tires as my brother :)


and no, I'm nooot a bike porn addict at all ;)
Title: Bike topic
Post by: JTK on January 08, 2006, 08:32:42 PM
:P
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 09, 2006, 01:06:59 PM
Quote from: "zaqrack"it should be enabled! what cant you attach?
2 jpg files, around 1.5 Mb each (maybe there's a limit for size or weight of the attachements...)
Title: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on January 09, 2006, 05:11:41 PM
yes that is outside the limit, which is 512kb. please resize the pictures.
Title: Bike topic
Post by: al il professore on January 10, 2006, 01:02:14 AM
attaching lol pictures of this weight is surrealistic plant them on your personal webspace and link to them. (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/pere.hendaye/iwtb.jpg) i like this picture :)
Title: Bike topic
Post by: CTG on January 10, 2006, 02:04:44 AM
beer
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 10, 2006, 09:44:22 AM
Here is my offroad bike.
I also have a standard road bike, but I almost never use it since I got my offroad one.
Title: Bike topic
Post by: al il professore on January 18, 2006, 06:33:04 PM
http://cycling.tv

a TV on the web, very interesting live races and documentaries. road, mountain bike, bmx, everything.
Title: Bike topic
Post by: al il professore on February 07, 2006, 08:50:18 PM
up! adding this link: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/pere.hendaye/sanse2.avi

clasica sansebastian 2004, bettini won. I filmed it.
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Renato Biker on February 08, 2006, 10:43:54 PM
here is my bike :)
Title: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on February 09, 2006, 09:42:21 AM
woosh, nice and must be also fast!

you might haven't seen my custom designed messenger bag I roam the streets with. :)

(http://stunts.mine.nu/misc/tatyo/DSCF0001.JPG)
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Renato Biker on February 09, 2006, 05:45:17 PM
wow, good idea, i am sure this is very useful  :)

Look my Polar  :wink:
Title: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on February 22, 2006, 10:53:44 PM
(http://img.tar.hu/kukukuku/size2/19889460.jpg)
Title: Bike topic
Post by: JTK on February 23, 2006, 08:28:29 PM
:lol:
Title: Bike topic
Post by: CTG on February 23, 2006, 08:34:26 PM
Zachary Biker
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Renato Biker on February 23, 2006, 09:55:55 PM
hey CTG, are you a biker or baker?  :lol:
Title: Bike topic
Post by: CTG on February 23, 2006, 10:15:05 PM
none of these

I'm Schumacher. Really. Try to translate my name. :)
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Renato Biker on March 12, 2006, 04:29:34 AM
I have a very bad news to the biker fans: today one cyclist was victim of a accident, he died training on highway of Curitiba, he was my friend...  :cry:  more one victim of a negligence driver.
Title: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on March 12, 2006, 09:24:25 AM
:(

we are protesting and having bit cyclist strikes in the city protesting for more bike roads and safer biking. You should perhaps do something like that to prevent such horrible accidents :(
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Renato Biker on March 12, 2006, 08:49:58 PM
I will see what we can do, I know we can improve the biking safe.

Some months ago, here was happening several assaults to cyclists in Curitiba, then we organized a protest. We congregated more than 400 cyclists and closed the highway. We called the TV periodical. After that never had assaults again. I think we can do something like that again, protesting for safer biking.
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Renato Biker on April 11, 2006, 06:56:19 AM
how fast was you reach on your bike?

I reached 104km/h  ;-)  :D
Title: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on April 11, 2006, 09:15:28 AM
88.6 km/h is my best yet. Offroad it's 72 km/h
Title: Bike topic
Post by: al il professore on April 11, 2006, 11:49:01 AM
my fastest is in a race, but i never logged it.

one stupid thing is to watch carefully the odometer reaching the peak speed... this is stupid, it will make somebody die someday... i watched carefully my odometer reach 72 this year :)

but now I stopped bike season and started american football training. first match in the end of april!!! I'll post a pic of me in a complete football equipment soon.

The next of the one hundred things i have to do before I die is to buy a recumbent bike and tour.

we don't need protests against cars, they already won. the road is a jungle with no policemen and no laws, the top of the feeding chain is the truck and the bottom is the cyclist. and everybody will tell you that: surprisingly, to survive, the cyclist must live like the early mammals: at night with lights. cars at night are soooooo much nice with cyclists! they always slow down and respect the famous one meter and half to overtake you!!!

I dont have any lessons to car drivers, or to cyclists, my own experience was to apply permanent survival rules directed in preventing: hitting a pedestrian (in the feeding chain, our only prey with dogs and flies) and sustain a car hit. here is a r?sum?:

1. trust nothing else than YOUR TWO HANDS ON THE BRAKE LEVERS. speed is life.

2. trust no car lights choose the worst scenario. cemetaries are full of good guys choosing the most optimistic scenario.

3. MAKE EYE CONTACT or turn your head to the car CROSSING your path. because cars crossing your path NEVER SEE YOU because of this STUPID and well known dead angle... brakes if the guy is looking elsewhere, brakes if he is on the phone AND looking at you, brakes, brakes, brakes on every intersection. brakes!

4. think about it: You'll never know from which direction came the hit that killed you... your neck muscles are enough to turn your skull but too weak to resist a brutal deceleration, your head banging on the road IS ALWAYS the fatal wound. WEAR AN HELMET. its not hot, its not heavy its not expensive and you penetrate the air better with an helmet than without.

5. SHOUT ON ALL DANGEROUSLY WANDERING PEDESTRIANS SHORT AND LOUD from a distance (I personally love the international agressive OH!). Prefer to tell them jokes in the ambulance?

6. When you suit up, think you can DIE today if you don't THINK SECURITY OVERALL.

7. be responsible for 'em: they are not responsible on the road, they are  kids playing a car game. you are dying if you dont take the responsability for them, for the security of everybody.

8. situational awareness and speed control is the key to cross the red lights. slow down, refresh your situational awareness with sounds, visual and seventh sense signals... check for policemen, CROSS IT! you can if they dont catch you. you are a biker. an hells angel.

9. you are the bottom of the feeding chain: think DEFENCE. never think agression. think agression with a car, or a truck. or a m62 abrahams TANK...

10. the only menace left is the dangerous and ephemere transitional state between a car driver and a pedestrian: the CAR DOOR OPENER. it can hurt. dont listen the car horns following you riding in the middle of the road aside a lane of stationed cars. respect a one meter range between the stationed cars and your right shoulder. if you dont, that car door opening will be so fast that 30% time you will hit the floor. ten car horns is not that disturbing. hitting the floor can kill you.

P.S. if the shit gets thick, remember that "ces connards de mal bais?s en voiture" don't they argue a lot with a bike rider smiling at them.
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 11, 2006, 10:59:52 PM
I'm not a big biker, although I really like to ride my bike. My speed record is 73.0 km/h not too far from Kazincbarcika on a slope.

Btw Usrin and me we did a 88km long hilly bike trip to Zabar (the coldest valley in Hungary), with an average of 19.2 km/h (including a 2-3 km long offroad trip next to Saj?n?meti, when we had to face with very muddy conditions). The pictures will be uploaded onto my site in a few days.

It's a pity that all my friends abandoned riding their bike, so I have to go alone in almost all of the cases. I'm really glad if Usrin comes and rarely we can do a bike trip. :) I don't really like and I don't really dare to go alone, because there are some ferocious dogs in the surrounding villages. The furthest destination I can go to (I dare to go to) is Miskolc, via Lyuk?b?nya. Despite these I'm about to do around 1 500 bike kilometres this year.
Title: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on April 11, 2006, 11:48:13 PM
Quote from: "Akoss Poo"Despite these I'm about to do around 1 500 bike kilometres this year.

I'l remind you to keep it :)
I already had 1500 this year I intend to do at least 8000, though I cant perfectly trace it as my commuter bike doesnt have a speedometer
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Usrin on April 11, 2006, 11:56:47 PM
Quote from: "Akoss Poo"Btw Usrin and me we did a 88km long hilly bike trip to Zabar (the coldest valley in Hungary), with an average of 19.2 km/h (including a 2-3 km long offroad trip next to Saj?n?meti, when we had to face with very muddy conditions).
Btw on the day before I did a 103 km long trip from Paszto to Kazincbarcika with an average of 18.6 km/h by a bit overweighted bike (because of the beers I carried :)). Fortunately I didn't meet any dogs...

I think my speed record (62 km/h) is by far the weakest here... Well, there are absolutely no hills around my hometown, so I haven't get used to these high speeds, and perhaps I'm too careful when sometimes I bike in the mountains. But I'm afraid that Alain's words are even more true in Hungary...
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 12, 2006, 12:42:47 AM
Okay Zak, please remind me! :) So far I have around 250-260, all of these are from the last 30 days. I'll have time for it (to do the 1 500) in the exam period and in the summer :)

My yearly record is 2 036 kms, back in 2000.
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Renato Biker on April 12, 2006, 04:54:22 AM
I did 15000km last year.

my daily distance record is 245km, with on average of 29km/h. One trip between Curitiba - Guaratuba and came back. It was a hard return because Curitiba's altitude is approximately 950m, and Guaratuba is 0m (a beach). More than 8 hours biking  ;-)
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 12, 2006, 12:05:39 PM
Hmm daily records... it is 123 kilometres, back in 2004 (it was done with Usrin, too).
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Renato Biker on April 14, 2006, 09:15:40 AM
hey Akoss, let's motivate CTG to bike with you, he is fat  :-D  see his comparative picture with a old photo ;)
Title: Bike topic
Post by: CTG on April 14, 2006, 09:29:39 AM
Oh LOL, did I send it to you too?  :oops:  :-D
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Usrin on April 14, 2006, 02:53:22 PM
I think this area is ideal for a bicycle tour. :)
Title: Bike topic
Post by: CTG on April 14, 2006, 03:28:17 PM
And Mecs?r too. :)

Our region is too flat, I suggest another direction: Sokor?.
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Renato Biker on April 15, 2006, 05:58:48 AM
watch it :D:D:D:D  BIKE CHEATER, like a Argentinian bike competition :P:P sorry for the bad joke, but the video is very very funny ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTg1PrfRNYE&search=bike
Title: Bike topic
Post by: CTG on April 15, 2006, 09:10:42 AM
Quote from: "Renato Biker"watch it :D:D:D:D  BIKE CHEATER, like a Argentinian bike competition :P:P sorry for the bad joke, but the video is very very funny ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTg1PrfRNYE&search=bike

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Title: Bike topic
Post by: Renato Biker on April 17, 2006, 03:44:11 AM
??? shit, here the link is working :!:
Title: Bike topic
Post by: JTK on April 17, 2006, 12:53:56 PM
loooooool! Skid Viciously!  :D  :D  :D
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Renato Biker on April 21, 2006, 07:28:54 AM
oh my god, look this fuckin' video  :shock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxeysvL1DJc&search=fall
Title: Bike topic
Post by: CTG on April 21, 2006, 08:56:57 AM
Renato, this video hurts. :)

I also like cycling but I'm not a professional of course. :) I have an old Schwinn Csepel racing bike. Nowadays I'm less active but still ride it.

Records

Top speed (flat) - 60.5 kmh
Top speed (down) - 79.4 kmh
Kilometers/year - 1773 kms
Longest trip (per day) - 95 kms

And tomorrow I'm heading for Critical Mass... :)
Title: Bike topic
Post by: JTK on April 21, 2006, 10:47:15 AM
Quote from: "Renato Biker"oh my god, look this fuckin' video  :shock:

Ouuuuuch!!!  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :?
Title: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on April 21, 2006, 11:27:56 AM
Quote from: "CTG"
And tomorrow I'm heading for Critical Mass... :)

Meet you in the crowd! :)
Look for a bunch (10-20) of bikers in light green-light blue cycling shirt, I will be there :)
Title: Bike topic
Post by: CTG on April 21, 2006, 07:02:23 PM
If the weather is warm I'll be in orange T-shirt. If not - we will see. :)
Title: Bike topic
Post by: BonzaiJoe on April 22, 2006, 10:45:26 AM
60 km/h on a flat road is really good :-)

I can't find my bike-key! I want so much to ride again, because the weather is finally becoming acceptable.
Title: Bike topic
Post by: CTG on April 22, 2006, 10:52:28 AM
I used to have a Puch bike without speedometer but I doubt that I ever reached 50 kmh...  :-D
Title: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on April 22, 2006, 08:17:46 PM
my rec's:

max speed on flat 55km/h
max speed downhill 88 km/h (around)
max speed downhill offroad 72 km/h
longest day-trip: 160km (around Fert? lake)
most altitude gain on a day trip: 3200m (in 80km, BEAC Maxi)
most distance/year: ~12000
most tourmates: 30000 bikers, today on the Critical Mass :)
:)
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Usrin on April 22, 2006, 10:22:04 PM
Quote from: "zaqrack"most tourmates: 30000 bikers, today on the Critical Mass :)
I wanted to be there, I'm sad that it was on the same day with M?trab?rc hike... But I made some personal records there (on foot, so it's offtopic, sorry): 55,6 km of distance and 2930 m of altitude gain within 11 hours and 17 minutes (including about 1 hour of pauses for eating, drinking, etc.).
Title: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on April 22, 2006, 11:48:29 PM
thats a very nice altitude gain for such a distance! You really did something there!
may I recommend you BEAC Maxi as the next step to outperform your records? :)
Title: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on April 29, 2006, 09:11:47 PM
we are just back from great bike tour in Slovakia. It was organized as a part of "Kom?rom days", started from Kom?rno and visited several small Slovakian villages in the region. The area was very beautiful, and altough there were no mountains to climb on, the rain and the sand made the path quite tricky - but fun :)
If you are intrested just check out some pictures:

http://stunts.mine.nu/pics/v/bike/zaq_20060429/

(hungariabn review soon on my bikeblog :))
Title: Bike topic
Post by: BonzaiJoe on April 29, 2006, 11:57:24 PM
Slovakia looks just like Denmark!

I've gotten my bike rolling again, so now it's time for a lot of km's when the weather is good! I only need a computer to measure them...
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Usrin on April 30, 2006, 09:25:52 AM
Quote from: "BonzaiJoe"Slovakia looks just like Denmark!
I don't know which part of Denmark looks like this. :D

Title: Bike topic
Post by: JTK on April 30, 2006, 11:22:20 AM
Quote from: "zaqrack"we are just back from great bike tour
You're not! I cannot see you on any picture. :P
Title: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on June 06, 2006, 09:14:06 PM
we had a nice tour this weekend :)

Check out this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRcE3lfMYwM

I'm starring from 0:15 :)

some teaser:

(http://azso.cjb.hu/20060604/photos/photo50.jpg)
Title: Bike topic
Post by: BonzaiJoe on June 06, 2006, 09:49:05 PM
Looks like you had fun! Also a very nice place...
Title: Bike topic
Post by: CTG on June 06, 2006, 10:18:01 PM
Quote from: "Usrin"
Quote from: "BonzaiJoe"Slovakia looks just like Denmark!
I don't know which part of Denmark looks like this. :D


This one is Hungary. Like everything in the so called "Slovakia". Slovakia does not exist.  :-D
Title: Bike topic
Post by: Usrin on June 06, 2006, 11:44:00 PM
Quote from: "CTG"This one is Hungary. Like everything in the so called "Slovakia". Slovakia does not exist.  :-D
Go and try to say that THERE. Be aware, the truth can be painful... :P
Title: Bike topic
Post by: JTK on June 07, 2006, 08:08:48 AM
Quote from: "zaqrack"we had a nice tour this weekend :)
Nice action!  :-)
Title: Bike topic
Post by: CTG on June 07, 2006, 11:29:39 AM
Quote from: "Usrin"
Quote from: "CTG"This one is Hungary. Like everything in the so called "Slovakia". Slovakia does not exist.  :-D
Go and try to say that THERE. Be aware, the truth can be painful... :P

Because Slovak minority in Felvid?k is very aggressive.  :-D
Title: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on June 08, 2006, 10:42:14 AM
Quote from: "JTK"
Nice action!  :-)

Sure, but shit happens, if your front wheel is stuck in the mud :twisted:

Title: Bike topic
Post by: JTK on June 08, 2006, 04:43:45 PM
Nice!  :lol:  Hopefully nothing happened to you and your bike... You should try this with the twin bike again!  :D
Title: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on June 08, 2006, 05:42:55 PM
no problems at all except getting soaking wet :)

we plan waterjumping in the summer into a lake with a "disposable" bike :)

but if I'd have done that with ym girlfriend - she would kill me if I'd survive :D
Title: Töffcycle
Post by: CTG on May 08, 2008, 11:33:34 PM
Krys Toff's bike ;D

(http://files.mommo.hu/pictures/000/094/94344_142a1e0681_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Töffcycle
Post by: Krys TOFF on May 09, 2008, 08:34:35 AM
Quote from: CTG on May 08, 2008, 11:33:34 PM
Krys Toff's bike ;D

(http://files.mommo.hu/pictures/000/094/94344_142a1e0681_o.jpg)
LOL :D
Title: Re: Bike topic
Post by: Mislav on June 17, 2008, 09:39:20 AM
Zak, that's a nice video! You seem like a bike tour expert so I'd like to know how many bigger bike tours you made, and how big the distances were you solved in one day, the topographics of the terrain etc. If you could make a short list of your bike tours with main distances(etappes?) and tour lenght (km/days). I ask cause I'm going to travel with a friend from Zagreb to the Adriatic see, by bike! It's about 180 kilometres, there's a big mountain complex before arriving to the coast, so I think we'll need for the tour about 3 days. It's gonna be exausting, maybe we'll never arrive so if you have some expert suggestions, they are welcome!

P.S. Nice bike Krys Toff has!  :D
Title: Re: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on June 17, 2008, 06:11:11 PM
with a semi-skilled team (regularly biking, but not often) 80km/day on flat terrain is OK, so I guess 3 days for the 180km with mountains is just fine.

Sadly I only did only a few multi-day trips. On one day trips my records were 160km (mainly flat) and 120km (4400m uphill altitude gain), both on terrain, no paved roads.

On multi-day trips on paved road I usually headed for quite a hilly terrain and did 80-100km/day for 2-4 days.

It is important to bring some necessary tools, lots of spare food (even if you intend to eat in restaurants) and plan the accomodation always with a 'B plan' in advance. Try to avoid bags on yourself, put the weight to the bike. Hold many short breaks, and rise early, it is easier to ride in the morning and the late afternoon, the heat can be much more exhausting than the distance.


Title: Re: Bike topic
Post by: CTG on August 25, 2012, 10:46:43 PM
This bike is really small. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL7pUIhNSm4
Title: Re: Bike topic
Post by: alanrotoi on August 25, 2012, 11:05:11 PM
what a clown hahaha
Title: Re: Bike topic
Post by: Chulk on August 26, 2012, 01:53:44 AM
That must be really hard to do with such a tiny bike
Title: Re: Bike topic
Post by: CTG on September 28, 2012, 09:43:40 PM
The biggest respect to him! I wish to see the same after his 105th birthday!

http://bicycling.com/blogs/thehub/2012/02/17/100-year-old-sets-cycling-record/
Title: Re: Bike topic
Post by: zaqrack on October 22, 2012, 03:53:02 PM
Any comments on Armstrong? Anybody surprised?
Title: Re: Bike topic
Post by: BonzaiJoe on October 22, 2012, 04:39:07 PM
Slightly surprised that it's uncovered already. I thought they would hold it off for 5-10 more years.
Title: Re: Bike topic
Post by: CTG on October 23, 2012, 01:17:51 PM
Quote from: zaqrack on October 22, 2012, 03:53:02 PM
Any comments on Armstrong? Anybody surprised?

The only surprise: I thought it won't ever happen to an American "idol". But I'm happy to see I was wrong.
Title: Re: Bike topic
Post by: Chulk on October 23, 2012, 03:39:35 PM
Is there at least one top dog at cycling (or swimming, it's the same) that doesn't do these kind of things? They just do it in a way it can't be discovered today, but if they check today's guys' blood in 10 years they would find everyone was doping
Title: Re: Bike topic
Post by: Usrin on October 26, 2012, 12:33:32 AM
Of course I'm not surprised that he doped. But neither I thought that it would be uncovered - not only because he was an "American idol", but because this scandal can destroy the whole business around competitive cycling. Will anybody believe that the others, now "shocked" by the news about Armstrong, were clear? It is physically impossible to complete Tour de France without doping...
Title: Re: Bike topic
Post by: CTG on October 27, 2012, 10:37:28 PM
Quote from: Usrin on October 26, 2012, 12:33:32 AM
It is physically impossible to complete Tour de France without doping...

Like swimming 100 m in 47 seconds or throwing 82 m with a hammer. The whole professional sport is based on dopes.
Title: Re: Bike topic
Post by: BonzaiJoe on October 28, 2012, 10:15:44 AM
I don't think that's true about the Tour de France. Blood doping is just the extra 5-10% edge. It makes a huge difference to determine the winners, but it's far from impossible to finish the Tour de France without it.