Who are the best pipsqueaks of the world in the present time? For me, at the moment, the 20 best ones are:
STUNTS TOP 20
1-Gutix
2-Ayrton
3-Renato Biker
4-Alain
5-Alan Rotoi
6-Argammon
7-Akoss Poo
8-Bonzai Joe
9-Tsino (he exists?)
10-Chulk
11-CTG
12-Mingva
13-Krys Toff
14-Dark Chaser
15-Zak McCraken
16-Vamologocomisso
17-Mislav
18-Dottore
19-Jules
20-Aburaf
I forgot somebody?
Quote from: "Dark Chaser"Who are the best pipsqueaks of the world in the present time? For me, at the moment, the 20 best ones are:
STUNTS TOP 20
1-Gutix
2-Ayrton
3-Renato Biker
4-Alain
5-Alan Rotoi
6-Argammon
7-Akoss Poo
8-Bonzai Joe
9-Tsino (he exists?)
10-Chulk
11-CTG
12-Mingva
13-Krys Toff
14-Dark Chaser
15-Zak McCraken
16-Vamologocomisso
17-Mislav
18-Dottore
19-Jules
20-Aburaf
I forgot somebody?
Mark L Rivers should be in your list. he runs hard without team support
Quote from: "Dark Chaser"Who are the best pipsqueaks of the world in the present time? For me, at the moment, the 20 best ones are:
STUNTS TOP 20
1-Gutix
2-Ayrton
3-Renato Biker
4-Alain
5-Alan Rotoi
6-Argammon
7-Akoss Poo
8-Bonzai Joe
9-Tsino (he exists?)
10-Chulk
11-CTG
12-Mingva
13-Krys Toff
14-Dark Chaser
15-Zak McCraken
16-Vamologocomisso
17-Mislav
18-Dottore
19-Jules
20-Aburaf
I forgot somebody?
11??? LOL. Maybe 6 or 7. On the active pipsqueaks list.
And me? :roll:
Quote from: "JTK"And me? :roll:
Not in top20, sorry :-D
But in TOP3 competition managers (JTK, Zak, Pershing II). :)
Quote from: "CTG"But in TOP3 competition managers (JTK, Zak, Pershing II). :)
Thanks :D But number 1 should be Zak, definitely!
I don't really understand your list Darkie :shock:
Renato Biker on 3 already????
He is pretty new and so far he has been behind me both month we raced against each other!I agree he has the POTENTIAL to reach top 3 level but he has not done so yet!
8)BJ
Um far to low
11)CTG
also far to low
5)Alanrotoi
Hellooo? he didn't drive since ages!
I think your list is really biased towards the south americans!
I think there should be 3 europeans in the top 5 and not only 1!
Quote from: "Argammon"Renato Biker on 3 already????
this depends of what you consider "present time". In 2006 I am between the top 3 drivers, or not? but this doesn't explain about Gutix, Rotoi, etc because they didn't race well this year...
but it is Darkie's opinion, if he loves me I can't do nothing :P :P :P :P
I think this year it is:
1)Ayrton
2)Argammon
3-5)Renato,Alain,CTG
6)Gutix
7)BJ
Bj could be higher if he would drive more seriously,and Argammon could be first if he would drive more frequently and seriously
:lol:
I won't rank gutix since he didn't drive yet,same with akoss poo and alanrotoi.Who doesn't show anything can't be ranked.
But you just did rank Gutix :-) Did you mean Chulk?
Yeah ooops,Chulk of course!
Tsino's name is a joke on such a list.
Best 10 pipsqueaks to me are:
1-5: Ayrton, Alain, Bonzai Joe, Argammon, Gutix. Any of them can be the best!
6-10:CTG, Renato Biker, Chulk, Mislav, Zak. Could be better or worse but between this group.
PS: POST N? 200!!! CONGRATULATIONS TO ME!!! :D :D :D
Quote from: "Chulk"Best 10 pipsqueaks to me are:
1-5: Ayrton, Alain, Bonzai Joe, Argammon, Gutix. Any of them can be the best!
6-10:CTG, Renato Biker, Chulk, Mislav, Zak. Could be better or worse but between this group.
PS: POST N? 200!!! CONGRATULATIONS TO ME!!! :D :D :D
Mislav? Zak???
Open your eyes kid.
Quote from: "CTG"
Mislav? Zak???
Open your eyes kid.
I don't deserve those 3 question marks.
I was only once out of the top 10 in the past 4 years.
Zak did a killer time to Kalpen competition :wink:
Quote from: "Renato Biker"Zak did a killer time to Kalpen competition :wink:
Yep! :-) And noone beat him so far. So he's in the very Top Ten! 8)
Quote from: "zaqrack"I don't deserve those 3 question marks.
I was only once out of the top 10 in the past 4 years.
Okay then I try to tell it in a more polite way.
Mislav is "?", because he's very talented but still far from the real top pipsqueak level. Maybe he'll reach it soon, but not yet.
Zak, you are another topic. Your level seems to be similar to Mislav (or you are still a bit better) but you won't improve as much as him. You know: top drivers... gap... Zak... gap... middle class.
BUT!
I think this "who are the best drivers" thing is just a useless crap. Let's go, race and decide it on the tracks and not in the forum.
Quote from: "CTG"I think this "who are the best drivers" thing is just a useless crap. Let's go, race and decide it on the tracks and not in the forum.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah - one of the most sensitive things you wrote lately! Yes!
*R*A*C*E* !!!
...at my contest, of course!
MAybe next time, JTK - this track is too shocking for me. And on the other hand I'm not enough patient to use RH in BB 1.0 :)
Quote from: "CTG"I think this "who are the best drivers" thing is just a useless crap. Let's go, race and decide it on the tracks and not in the forum.
whowww! :shock:
Is he growing up ? :-D
Quote from: "CTG"Let's go, race and decide it on the tracks and not in the forum.
yeah, but you must consider other competitions, not only ZSC... remember: I am leading Kalpen, UCS and SDR :D
Quote from: "CTG"MAybe next time, JTK - this track is too shocking for me. And on the other hand I'm not enough patient to use RH in BB 1.0
you just said, "let's go, race and decide it", idiot :twisted:
...kidding
BB 1.0 is for patient and calm people. I'm not that. :D
Quote from: "CTG"BB 1.0 is for patient and calm people. I'm not that. :D
Yes. We had it all figured out :wink:
I think the retired pipsqueaks are as good pipsqueaks as they was in their times (they are only not racing, talent is forever!), so I would rather like to create an all-time stunts gods' list.
I'm only listing the pipsqueaks I raced against, and I'm only putting them into groups (and the pipsqueaks' name in the groups are not in strength order)
Group Highest Level
Bonzai Joe
Argammon
Alan Rotoi
Group Level 1A
Gutix
Alain
Ayrton
Group Level 1B
pArAnO
Roy Wiegerinck
Akoss Poo
CTG
Tsino
Chulk
Group Level 2A
Mingva
Bismarck
Ben Snel
Zak McKracken
Dark Chaser
Dottore
Group Level 2B
Pershing II
Vamologocomisso
Mislav
XDude NL
Diesel Joe
Usrin
Inavoeg
Fdzierva
:) i?m here to race just like yall and then I?d like to learn bout the competition. ////////////////so, I?ll try to follow this season, and maybe follow yall for a long period..
Hola to yall, see ya later on tracks! peoplessss
Silveira
Welcome aboard Silveira 311. :wink:
Another Senna again... :)
Quote from: "CTG"MAybe next time, JTK - this track is too shocking for me.
LOOOL I cannot believe this! :lol:
Okay then I'm unable to under 1:00. Is it a better excuse? :)
Send in your time, anyway!
Quote from: "JTK"Send in your time, anyway!
If I do 59, I will. :)
chicken :)
you can't lose :lol:
Quote from: "zaqrack"chicken :)
you can't lose :lol:
I promised to myself: I won't ever lose a match against you. :) Be proud, you are the ethalone.
Quote from: "CTG"ethalone.
sounds like a chemistry thing :)
but not sending in a replay doesn't count! :)
Ethalone is a thing for comparison, like the meter rod in Paris.
ETHANOL is the well known alcohol - C2H5OH.
Not sending in a replay will decrease your season ranking! And this time I guess, Zak will win. Well, maybe Bonsai Joe puts out his two hands... :)
Quote from: "Akoss Poo"
Group Highest Level
Bonzai Joe
Argammon
Alan Rotoi
Group Level 1A
Gutix
Alain
Ayrton
Group Level 1B
pArAnO
Roy Wiegerinck
Akoss Poo
CTG
Tsino
Chulk
i beat atagaton when i want and i scrap bonzai joe on my glorious pole every time i race. i only respect alanrotoi gutix and ayrton as better drivers than me... roy is far better than parano who is far better than you and CTG but the rest is history.
and i dont believe in live racing...
Lmao the same bullshit for years.
Stop yelling kid!
Yeah you bet me when we fought hard with the LM002 ,yeah right.
And your GTO lap -> CRAP we know it was defeated by several seconds (I don't mean last month)
With the countach,I never saw you ->crap
With the audi,where are you?
With the indy... hellllo?
I don't see a single car you excel at,you only won some tracks very long ago since the other stars weren't driving as seriously as you stupid french fry.
It's pretty known I don't respect you as a person. And let me add I don't respect your crappy results either.
but most importantly you are to stupid to recognize RESULTS.I mean someone could beat you 100 times in a row and you could still say the opposite.HELLLLO?????? earth to alain??????
I bet you way more often than you bet me.Anyone can take a look at the results and add them together.
The case is clear and this topic is also closed for me.
BYE
Argammon vs Alain in Zakstunts:
20 comparative races
11 Argammon
8 Alain
1 draw
Well he beats me 24-19... I guess I could have been better off not sending some noRH times and 5-minute RH times to the scoreboard in 2005, but Alain has probably had similar races.
And if we count liveracing... :twisted:
But let's just leave it at that :-) Alain and Argammon are both good pipsqueaks, Argammon with better head-to-head results, but Alain with more races and an overall victory in 2003. I have to quote someone else from this thread: "let's stop talking, and go and decide on the tracks!". The competition is for competing, the forum is for talking.
Of course we will decide on the track(s).
It's just stupid to disregard facts we DID decide on tracks and just saying the opposite......
Incredible: there are flamewars without me! :-D
Quote from: "CTG"Incredible: there are flamewars without me! :-D
Alain and Argy never needed you to do flamewars : they just had to be teammates almost 3 years ago and then... :roll:
Quote from: "Argammon"
It's pretty known I don't respect you as a person.
BYE
come out and play real men sports
you look very scary :)
Scary? LOL. I eat two Alains per breakfast.
I think it should be more like this, but it definetely changes from race to race..
1- Ayrton
2- Renato Biker
2- Gutix
3- Argammon
4- CTG
5- Alain
6- Bonzai Joe
7- Zak McKracken
8- Chulk
9- Dark Chaser
10- Mislav
11- Dottore
12- CTG
13- Usrin
14- Mark L. Rivers
15- Vamologocomisso
16- Aburaf70
17- Krys Toff
18- SergioBaro
19- SuperBrian
20- Tsino and the rest........ :o
Quote from: "SuperBrian"I think it should be more like this, but it definetely changes from race to race..
4- CTG
6- Bonzai Joe
:smt013
Quote from: "BonzaiJoe":smt013
HAHAHAHAHA!!! :) :P :twisted:
1 - Bonzai Joe
Quote from: "SuperBrian"20- Tsino and the rest........ :o
Tsino ? 20th ? No way. When he was there, he was always on top.
But, as all ghosts, he finally got evaporated.
Who's ghost was he ? Or was he real ? Dunno. But sure he won't be so 20th in scoreboard if he may race.
Tsino was strong sure, but he's become very overestimated. He was superior at 4DSL but with due respect, the other pipsqueaks there weren't very good. Gutix became very strong, but he wasn't in the beginning. Apart from that, what did he do? Raced well in some ISA tracks, but was always beaten by Alan Rotoi.
I don't think one can easily estimate the strength of someone who refuses to race in Zakstunts.
...aaand he was no ghost!
Quote from: "Anonymous"...aaand he was no ghost!
He was Alan Rotoi's ghost. :P
Or mine... :lol:
Quote from: "Krys TOFF"Quote from: "Anonymous"...aaand he was no ghost!
He was Alan Rotoi's ghost. :P
It wouldn't make any sense to have such a good ghost in your own competition. It would only demotivate the pipsqueaks!
Quote from: "Chulk"Quote from: "Krys TOFF"Quote from: "Anonymous"...aaand he was no ghost!
He was Alan Rotoi's ghost. :P
It wouldn't make any sense to have such a good ghost in your own competition. It would only demotivate the pipsqueaks!
Not so sure : look at the speed Gutix improved trying to beat Tsino. And he finally did at the 6th (and last) race of 1st 4DSL season.
Without Tsino, Gutix would have started to really improve only when joining ZakStunts, and then he may have not been 2004 ZakStunts champion due to many points lost in the first races of 2004. Who knows...
Well, his e-mail adress was completely different from others - he was no ghost.
Quote from: "JTK"Well, his e-mail adress was completely different from others - he was no ghost.
Ok then. But he was even more silent than Ayrton, which makes him really ghost-looking.
Haha Bonzai Joe, i would have changed Alain and CTG, but it doesn't help your situation very much. Hahaha, Well, I don't know who is the best, some pipsqueaks gets worse and some pipsqueaks gets better. It changes and if you are in form, you can make a better race. Like me I was Tsino. 8)
Well, I guessed Tsino was a ghost too. His first try in 4dsl was very good, and the second time was far better and so on... But there is a reallity. I looked his IP address with a IP locator. It showed his emails came from Colombia. So it cleared my bad feelings against him.
Could somebody send him an email?, invite him to the competitions.
Quote from: "alanrotoi"Well, I guessed Tsino was a ghost too. His first try in 4dsl was very good, and the second time was far better and so on... But there is a reallity. I looked his IP address with a IP locator. It showed his emails came from Colombia. So it cleared my bad feelings against him.
So he was Juank23 racing with RH. :-D :lol:
I only raced against him once and he did a superb replay. I can't say anything else about him except that I thought he was a ghost from some talented European pipsqueak.
Forget Tsino... another ghost is in action at the top. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: "alanrotoi"Could somebody send him an email?, invite him to the competitions.
That was his address:
alejo@myrealbox.com
Quote from: "JTK"Quote from: "alanrotoi"Could somebody send him an email?, invite him to the competitions.
That was his address: alejo@myrealbox.com
it forwards the message to
al0404whatever@dunnowhat.fr :-D
I remembered that I once saw Tsino do a 1.13.70 on Dinky in 4DSL in the middle of the month. I think number 2 had 1.28 or something, and all in all it was a pretty amazing time. So I decided that I had to beat it, worked very hard and finally managed to do 1.13.40. Then I expect him to beat me on the last day, but nothing happens.
So I'd say he's a human being.
Curiously enough, those were also the times which Alain and I had on ZCT39. <insert ghost emoticon here>
I remember Tsino, and his awesome times (very few, in truth) when I started to race in Alan?s competition.
Me and DarkChaser thinked the same as everybody - "of couse he is a ghost". And we asked ourselfs "If he is a real person, why behave like that ???" :?
But we can ask the same think about Ayrton, and nowaday noone else still think he is a ghost... Its like some Stunts legend that will never be solved. :shock:
A little mystery is allways welcome, hahaha :lol: :lol: :lol:
- A little investigation of Alejo@myrealbox.com
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What is Alejo?
Alejo means: "I move away" in spanish, a typically name for a stunts driver OR a stunts ghost, so my investigation didn't prove anything.
Weeee........ :-D
Search Google for Juank23!
This is what it says in one of the seachresults:
I AM SELLING BECAUSE I AM MOVING.
Contact Info JUAN juank23.
- Alejo means: "I move away" is this a coincidence?
I think not!
Finally after a big research and many analysis...hmhm.... I came to a FORMULA for the success of the pipsqueaks. So let's see on which factors the quality of the pipsqueak depends on:
1. 75% - time to play
2. 10% - nervs to play (some have time, but no nervs/will after a while)
3. 8% - creativity
4. 5% - motivation (competition spirit, to proove against somebody)
5. 2% - I like to call it the "nothing else to do factor", it's connected with the factor nr.1.
So the only real quality factor is nr.3. It describes the creativity of a pipsqueak, finding altenative ways, shortcuts, have the feeling of how the car works, but on all of this he spends less time. So the key of driver's quality is "less time for better result". Unfortunately we can't prove how many time each of us spends for one looping, reaching PG, maxing the replay etc.
So the mistery of the best drivers will remain unknown for some time.
Quote from: "Mislav"1. 75% - time to play
That's why my performance is so bad nowadays. Just have a look at my stats (number of posts, replays; appearance on MSN - I have a lot fewer time than usually)! I fall back.
Worst time to retire, I need at least a very good period before that. :D
Quote from: "BonzaiJoe"I remembered that I once saw Tsino do a 1.13.70 on Dinky in 4DSL in the middle of the month. I think number 2 had 1.28 or something, and all in all it was a pretty amazing time. So I decided that I had to beat it, worked very hard and finally managed to do 1.13.40. Then I expect him to beat me on the last day, but nothing happens.
So I'd say he's a human being.
Remember that South-Americans had a different scoreboard than non-South-Americans. So he didn't care about your time as it was in another scoreboard.
Quote from: "SuperBrian"Search Google for Juank23!
This is what it says in one of the seachresults:
I AM SELLING BECAUSE I AM MOVING.
Contact Info JUAN juank23.
- Alejo means: "I move away" is this a coincidence?
Juank23 had very good results racing without RH. So, it's logical to think he could be on top with RH.
About his nick : "23" was the number of his favorite NBA player. I remember we talked about it in chatroom a loooong time ago (2002 or 2003). He may have changed his nick when this player retired, and also to make it different than his no-RH nick.
Anyway, they were both from Colombia.
Quote from: "Mislav"1. 75% - time to play
2. 10% - nervs to play (some have time, but no nervs/will after a while)
3. 8% - creativity
4. 5% - motivation (competition spirit, to proove against somebody)
5. 2% - I like to call it the "nothing else to do factor", it's connected with the factor nr.1.
Point 1 is why CTG finally won a race at ZakStunts. :P :lol: :wink:
Point 3 apply only on competitions with shortcuts. Its proportion goes down to 0.5% for shortcuts-free competitions.
Point 4 can increase the point 1 a lot. It should be more than 5%.
Point 5 is Leo Ramone's favorite. Leo plays only when not talking/thinking/dreaming about football. Leo won't play a lot in the next 4 weeks (remember, FIFA World Cup is beginning today). :lol:
Quote from: "Krys TOFF"Point 1 is why CTG finally won a race at ZakStunts. :P :lol: :wink: :
F u c k you ! I did all my victories in Damage Inc, so don't insult me. On the other hand not all of them was about time spent on the track. :P
Point 1 is why Alain ever reached top10... :-D
Quote from: "CTG"Quote from: "Krys TOFF"Point 1 is why CTG finally won a race at ZakStunts. :P :lol: :wink: :
F u c k you ! I did all my victories in Damage Inc, so don't insult me. On the other hand not all of them was about time spent on the track. :P
Hey, calm down. Didn't you saw the smileys ? It was a joke. :P
Well Mislav, I think it's an exaggeration after all to say that driving skill has absolutely no importance at all. In that case, WSM live results should have absolutely no connection with Zakstunts scoreboard results. And they had... If you drive better, you need less time to drive.
But interesting stats anyway, and I'm sure time to play is extremely important... Therefore, demotivating one's opponents is also a very important strategic move.
yes, the WSM and live racing is absolutely the best chance to see who is who in the zoo :) Don't get me wrong BJ, with these 8% of skills and creativity, you can sometimes jump over the other 75% of the factor nr.1!
I love live racing. But I hate the sound of crashing :lol:
I also think that motivation should be increased much higher, about 20 - 30%! When I am motivated, I spend more energy in trying to acheive something (and the other way round, that's why noone really races the Kalpen contest. :) And that's why I race Zak's contest just for the fun of it).
Quote from: "Krys TOFF"Quote from: "CTG"Quote from: "Krys TOFF"Point 1 is why CTG finally won a race at ZakStunts. :P :lol: :wink: :
F u c k you ! I did all my victories in Damage Inc, so don't insult me. On the other hand not all of them was about time spent on the track. :P
Hey, calm down. Didn't you saw the smileys ? It was a joke. :P
I wasn't nervous.
Quote from: "Mislav"I love live racing. But I hate the sound of crashing :lol:
Try SDR noRH competition, or ZakStunts noRH too.
Motivation is why Jan Ullrich is still driving even though he ends up as nr. 2 in Tour de France...
I would say:
Motivation: 50%
Time to play: 30%
Creativity: 20%
Other factors rely on these three points.
In fact these three points are connected too, if you have time to play, you can be more creative, if you are very creative yo can be more motivated to beat other, if you are ver motivated you often make yourself time to play..