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ZakStunts => Permanent Competition => Topic started by: CTG on October 21, 2002, 09:48:19 AM

Title: Default
Post by: CTG on October 21, 2002, 09:48:19 AM
Hey guys, can you tell me how to put Indy into 6th gear on Default?!?
Title: Default
Post by: Mingva on October 21, 2002, 11:52:57 AM
NO :twisted:

P.S. Visit old forum, category "Stunts". :arrow:
Title: No shortcuts
Post by: CTG on October 25, 2002, 12:51:08 AM
What's your record on Default without cheats?
Title: Default
Post by: pArAnO on October 25, 2002, 03:57:56 AM
manual, corkscrew, and you can get de 6th speed (I never tried it on default)
Title: Default
Post by: BonzaiJoe on October 25, 2002, 03:32:35 PM
I have 1.02.70 Default Man/NORH/no shortcuts.
Title: No so bad... :)
Post by: CTG on October 27, 2002, 05:18:12 PM
Nice time! I have only 1:05.15 (no cheats, auto trm., with replay handling), and 1:06.00 without RH...    :)
Title: Default
Post by: alanrotoi on October 29, 2002, 04:27:54 PM
I just did a 38.60 with INDY/rabid RH/Yellow. And a 58.xx with the Porsche 962.
 
Cheers! (http://leaderphil.8m.com/meganium/cheers.gif)
Title: Different competitions
Post by: Bonzai Joe on October 30, 2002, 08:36:07 AM
Why don't we make different competitions? One for humans, and one for people from the planet "Stuntsia" (Alan, Roy, CAP, Nailwood)
Title: atchoo!
Post by: alanrotoi on October 30, 2002, 05:42:32 PM
Don't forget Inavoeg, Fdzierva and yourself ;)
Title: Inavoeg
Post by: Akoss Poo on October 30, 2002, 08:18:18 PM
I think I can beat Inavoeg! I raced against him in 2000 once in the Swedish Championship, I had mentioned this before. He beat me - I was 3rd Usrin was 4th check out on Meganium home page - but because he used BB 1.1 I used BB 1.0. After race Usrin drove a time which was only 0.25 sec slower than Inavoeg's winner. And only with MS 1.1! And I was clearly a better pilot than Usrin in 2000! Let's call him back if you don't believe!
So Inavoeg can be missed in Stuntsia. The others... no question, they are great drivers. :D
Title: Stuntsia
Post by: BonzaiJoe on October 30, 2002, 08:31:32 PM
Fdzierva was not as good as any of the four drivers I mentioned, I am not as good as Fdzierva, and Inavoeg was not as good as me. He won a lot in 1999, but the competition wasn't nearly half as strong back then as it is in 2002 and was in Kalpen 2001.
Title: Default
Post by: al il professore on October 31, 2002, 05:56:03 PM
rem...

little rem...

just to tell everybody that...

He cant judge.

this one thinks he is better than his ass.

Compare some real stunts driver, that won several times in a row (Roy, Rotoi can give lessons, the mythologic ones watches us from the stunts valhalla) and the immature mutant hero slug.

How can he tell who is the best. Words dont tell who is the best. You can only calculate who is the best. The best is nailwood. The second is Rotoi. Bonzai joe isnt as good as that. If I would like to hear somebody speak of the others talents, (and i think its not necessary, only proofs can prove the truth) I would like it was the best. Oops i rotoied again. And not some ass speaking donkey. haaan hiii haaan hiihaaaan. Soon, parano and bonzai joe will make the law in stunts if we dont care.

truth is elsewhere.
Title: Default
Post by: pArAnO on October 31, 2002, 10:57:56 PM
I see why you have something against me.. but why bonzai? (curiosity again!)
Title: Skoda
Post by: alanrotoi on February 07, 2003, 04:41:04 AM
I just did a 0.23.20 with the Skoda :), a yellow skoda ;)
Title: Def
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 09, 2003, 01:17:36 AM
23.05 in a RED Skoda :D
Title: AHAHAH!
Post by: Lamer on February 09, 2003, 04:24:56 PM
I made 20.60 with a Citroen CV4 LMAO.Good job driving good times with cheat cars you losers.
Title: Who
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 09, 2003, 05:57:04 PM
So, is that Alain or a typical forum geek? Or is there a difference? :D
Title: Default
Post by: alanrotoi on August 15, 2003, 09:56:19 PM
LOL :lol:
Title: Default
Post by: al il professore on August 16, 2003, 07:24:14 AM
i love this sentence: "alain made three victories in a row at zakstunts, he was born for playing that game in competition and no one is better than him in the present time"
Title: Default
Post by: al il professore on September 01, 2003, 12:50:56 AM
who is the best driver on default track? i will become that. I lead default closed and am on the way to beat default indy car alanrotoi's time... see you on the permanent times scoreboard. tomorrow. :)
Title: Default
Post by: al il professore on September 01, 2003, 12:52:40 AM
answer to the question who is the best on default is... alain, of course. third on default and first on default closed. noone did that.
Title: Default
Post by: al il professore on September 02, 2003, 11:16:06 AM
i beat my time on default!

i am the fastest man on default in the entire UNIVERSE!!!

thirty six seconds and forty!!! 36:40! two seconds better than alanrotoi!

i also was the first man to go under the minute in default closed!!!!!!!!!!

fifty nine seconds!!!!! yeaaaaaaaah one second better than Bonzai Joe!

these times go to mingva's 25th. congratulations mingva! expect a fourth victory in a row in zakstunts for your birthday!!!
Title: Default
Post by: Mingva on September 02, 2003, 11:28:46 AM
Quote
these times go to mingva's 25th. congratulations mingva! expect a fourth victory in a row in zakstunts for your birthday!!!

Yeah :D Thank you very much, Alain :)
Title: Default
Post by: al il professore on September 02, 2003, 11:58:45 AM
:D
Title: Default
Post by: satanziege on September 02, 2003, 06:09:54 PM
May i proudly announce that after understanding power gear on Kalpen B i am now able to create times worth mentioning ;) only sixth place so far, but it was only the third try yet...
Title: Default
Post by: satanziege on September 02, 2003, 06:36:23 PM
i couldn't stop trying... 6th place was ... inconvenient.
Title: Default
Post by: al il professore on September 02, 2003, 08:34:12 PM
your time on default is very good. keep improving, because its the same time i had on default :) you are talented
Title: Default
Post by: alanrotoi on September 02, 2003, 08:42:52 PM
but mingva's birthday is tomorrow  :D
Title: Default
Post by: al il professore on November 01, 2003, 09:16:26 PM
BJ beat my permanent time two months ago... why didnt i see that?
Title: Default
Post by: Akoss Poo on July 02, 2004, 08:01:07 PM
New personal (and 99% that Hungarian) record on Default, 30th June 2004

1:02.70

without replay handling and shortcuts

:)
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Akoss Poo on July 02, 2004, 08:04:20 PM
Quote from: "BonzaiJoe"
I have 1.02.70 Default Man/NORH/no shortcuts.


LOL I just saw that I am equal now with Bonzai Joe's record. :)
Title: Default
Post by: al il professore on July 03, 2004, 05:13:31 PM
i earn the ALL TIME french best time on default!! i want my name in the guinness!!
Title: Default
Post by: alanrotoi on January 05, 2005, 07:23:36 AM
Congratulations to Satanziege! He is 4th!!
Title: Default
Post by: Argammon on January 07, 2005, 12:51:51 AM
When I drove in my live race killer time round 1 year ago I managed to do it in like 1.00.50 w/o RH
now I need like 1.08? way to go........
Title: Default
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 07, 2005, 11:56:00 AM
What are you talking about Argammon? Of course I can do 55 seconds following the road, apart from that, I did 1.01.70 (and that's for sure, cause the other drivers saw me do it) without replay handling and following the road. You claim that you did 1.00.50, being 1 second better than my record and 2 seconds better than basically everyone else's records? Now that would be impressive!
By the way, my 35.85 should be improvable by about 0.05, and if someone (Gutix) does an insane amount of magic carpet jumps right at the beginning, something like 33 seconds should be possible. But then there's no going lower.
Title: Default
Post by: alanrotoi on January 07, 2005, 02:45:22 PM
We are not pipsqueaks. We are bug chasers.
Title: Default
Post by: Argammon on January 07, 2005, 06:33:15 PM
BJ,Well just before live racing died I had some pretty strong results (check the achieve) and during that time I tried the default track myself and drove that time... not to say I did not know about your record,could have been 58 seconds or 1.04 ? how would I know?

Anyways,If the others have been watching you racing THAT time I find it to be a lot more impressive.I know it's a lot easier to play a game alone in front of your computer than with dozens of maniacs around watching ;)
That's does not count only for stunts but for a lot of other things :)

Nowadays I don't seem to be in a very well shape,and I am far away from any of those times.I figure I would have to improve alot if I want to go anywhere in this month competition.
Title: Default
Post by: Shoegazing Leo on January 09, 2005, 03:32:40 AM
Quote from: "alanrotoi"
We are not pipsqueaks. We are bug chasers.


And one of us is a Dark Chaser...
Title: Default
Post by: Renato Biker on February 08, 2006, 08:10:42 AM
well, i did 56:15 on Default no shortcuts, no tricks, no touch the grass and completing the obstacles. :D  What do you think about?
Title: Default
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 08, 2006, 10:28:47 AM
"First seeing, then believing" - Roy Wiegerinck
Title: Default
Post by: Renato Biker on February 08, 2006, 08:13:29 PM
Quote from: "Renato Biker"
well, i did 56:15 on Default no shortcuts, no tricks, no touch the grass and completing the obstacles.


Zak, how is the name of this rules? could you put it in scoreboard with this rule name?
Title: Re: Default
Post by: BonzaiJoe on October 14, 2007, 11:11:09 AM
Maybe get power gear in the corkscrew, then skid (I actually mean skid here) to the right and continue in power gear along the boulevard? I don't believe it's possible though.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on October 15, 2007, 02:13:18 PM
Why not? But not touching the grass part is a bit weird. Anyway Renato Biker is not existing anymore.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: BonzaiJoe on October 15, 2007, 04:56:43 PM
I mean without touching the grass, of course...
Default is a really good track, actually...
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on October 15, 2007, 05:18:54 PM
Argammon's 1:00.50 without RH... well. Sometimes I feel I'm not the only liar here. ;)
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Argammon on October 15, 2007, 07:44:52 PM
Your inferiority complexes against me must be really serious since you often feel the need to insult me out of nowhere. Somehow reminds me of Alain.

That you are a liar is common knowledge. What's even worse is that you are proud to be one.

Title: Re: Default
Post by: BonzaiJoe on October 15, 2007, 08:26:07 PM
1.00.50 without RH is not impossible if you can touch the grass. Still an incredible time, but not like with ISA rules (with which 1.00.50 is really good even with replay handling)
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Duplode on October 17, 2007, 06:25:30 AM
I had a couple tries on pseudo-ISA+NoRH mode (touching grass allowed, but no cuts), just for the sake of it. Best times around low 1:06...
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Duplode on January 01, 2008, 06:29:51 PM
If nobody contests it, I claim the overall record on Default: 20.90 with Lada Niva Comeback  8)
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on January 01, 2008, 07:01:00 PM
20.90? I had better few years ago. 20.70? 20.75? Dunno exactly.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Renato Biker on February 24, 2010, 05:43:16 PM
... Anyway Renato Biker is not existing anymore.

I can guarantee that I still exist.  :P
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Renato Biker on February 24, 2010, 05:46:46 PM
i am the fastest man on default in the entire UNIVERSE!!!

Not only exist, but now it's my position, Alain. (Default and Default Closed)  ;)

Title: Re: Default
Post by: Mingva on February 24, 2010, 09:03:39 PM
Congrats, Renato  :D
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on February 24, 2010, 09:17:46 PM
l i c k
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Renato Biker on February 25, 2010, 06:09:17 AM
l i c k

 ::)
Title: Re: Default
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 25, 2010, 11:01:01 AM
The second best Stunts pipsqueak ever has returned.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on February 25, 2010, 07:54:44 PM
The second best Stunts pipsqueak ever has returned.

Alain. With RH. ;D
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on August 20, 2010, 04:53:31 PM
I hate Default track.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on July 09, 2012, 03:09:00 PM
Instructions for tonight:

Open Stunts.
Select Default track.
Pick the Indy.
Give five serious tries to it, like at WSM.
Don't publish your results, if you don't want to. But please tell how many of your laps finished with a crash.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on July 09, 2012, 07:28:22 PM
Tried it. It would be better not to know, how slow I am...

First try: full of self-confidence, quite a good first half lap, leaving the road in the corner right after the boulevard, lucky power gear on the bridge, good corners, except the last one, leaving the road again, losing too much time... 1:06.20

Second try: hahaha, I will take care, won't have mistakes. The first corner gave me a huge slap: almost sliding off, RPM is extremely down. Is there a way to come back? Nope. The next two corners are damned weak again, but the second part is excellent. Too bad, I was already 1.5 seconds behind my last lap before the bridge. At the end: 1:05.70

Third try: hmmm, I should be even more careful. Small "magic carpet" after landing from the hill. Not the right moment for that, I have to brake a bit more than usually. Not so bad anyway. Cork? Survived. Wow, damned good cornering! But at the boulevard... my phone started to ring, next to the computer. Few milliseconds of deconcentration was enough to crash. skid off! This one was not a real try. DNF

Third (B) try: clean your mind, focus on the first half of the track! It will be a good one for sure. Of course not: the car flies too flat, crashing into the concrete block on the hill. Annoying. DNF

Fourth try: I will run out of possibilities. I need a safety lap. It's too safe, braking too early everywhere. No mistakes, but generally it's slow. The clock stops at 1:05.85

Fifth try: be brave and go under 1:04! Or 1:03! Or... suck again? Seems to be typical psycho lap with nervous steering, late braking and low RPM coming out of the corners. Lucky jump at the boulevard, winning some speed - losing the same in the next corner. Bridge is okay, corner #last but two is okay, #last but one is a bit slow and the laaaaaast... survived with a minor off-road part. Please, at least under 1:05... Done. It's 1:04.70, I'm not satisfied. Few years ago I could complete 80% of my laps under 1:05. Okay, not only few years - SEVERAL years.

Disappointing.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: BonzaiJoe on July 10, 2012, 07:51:30 PM
1: crash
2: 1.04.75
3: crash
4: crash
5: crash
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Duplode on July 11, 2012, 03:16:27 AM
Have I ever mentioned that I would, in all likelihood, flop at a WSM? My ability to "clear my mind" for a single, do-or-die attempt is, to put it mildly, very unreliable.

1. 1:14.85
2. DNF (spun at first corner)
3. 1:10.75
4. 1:06.45
5. 1:08.75

Nice exercise. Maybe I will try it again next month...
Title: Re: Default
Post by: zaqrack on July 11, 2012, 05:16:07 AM
See the screenshot. Best time on try 4, 1:05.75
Gradual improvements (in the first lap I had to memorize the track again, long time since I played Default)
Crashed in the cork on try 3.
Try 5 started really well, candidate for sub 1:05, but then I made a mistake in the corner before the hill and no PG, so my time was doomed.

This was fun, we should do it more often.
 
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on January 10, 2013, 10:06:23 AM
Have you ever tried Default in reverse direction? It fits me a lot better: relatively slow right corners at the beginning, fast lefts in the second half.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Friker on January 10, 2013, 10:36:21 AM
Have you ever tried Default in reverse direction? It fits me a lot better: relatively slow right corners at the beginning, fast lefts in the second half.
CTG's got the point? :D
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Chulk on January 10, 2013, 04:26:49 PM
I don't remember doing this!! Laps are NoRH + No shortcuts, right?
Title: Re: Default
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 10, 2013, 04:39:19 PM
Yes, but not strictly ISA rules.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Chulk on January 11, 2013, 03:08:45 AM
Lap 1 - 1:11.75: Too cautious
Lap 2 -    DNF   : Stupid rookie mistake, hitting the red wall on the corkscrew
Lap 3 - 1:08.40: A little sliding on last corner cost me a few secs
Lap 4 - 1:05.55: Good clean lap
Lap 5 -    DNF   : All or nothing lap, crashing into the boulevard trying to get PG there
Title: Re: Default
Post by: dreadnaut on January 26, 2013, 02:06:55 AM
Lap 1 - 1:15.80 - slow slow slow, too slow in those corner!
Lap 2 - DNF - jumped out of the bridge...
Lap 3 - 1:13.05
Lap 4 - 1:13.70 - uhm uhm uhm :|
Lap 5 - 1:10.70 - that's better!

Still, I tried to hit the boulevard twice and missed both times.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: RacerBG on February 09, 2013, 09:46:05 AM
My little big achievements. ;D

(http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/DB/C9/95e46e742af0dbc9.jpg)
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Duplode on February 12, 2013, 12:45:12 AM
Time for a second shot at this. Engine started... and done!

#1: Missed completely the braking point at turn one, used the rest of the lap as a warm-up. 1:13.95
#2: Better, but still not good - dropping too low into 4th gear, then a scare after the bridge and running wide at the last corner into the dual-way rejoin... 1:07.50
#3: Rubbish; horribly slow second corner, lost focus after that. 1:11.75
#4: Unlucky short jump at the hill, slammed into the slalom block  :-X DNF
#5: This doesn't look good, I do not race well under pressure... but hey! a tense but clean lap, finally. 1:03.40
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Chulk on February 12, 2013, 01:06:05 AM
I should give it a second shot too, now that I'm not that rusty. Tonight, after dinner.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: dreadnaut on February 12, 2013, 02:02:02 AM
1:13.05  forgot to slow down after the boulevard
DNF - flying out of the cork
1:11.15  meh before the cork
DNF - missing the bridge
1:09.95  under 1:10!
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Chulk on February 12, 2013, 03:35:07 AM
#1: Breaking too late in corner 1, almost sliding and touching the grass. Rest of the lap used to measure track elements' speed limits. 1:09.45
#2: Clean lap until the bridge, breaking too early at the end of it. 1:06.00
#3: Crappy corner before boulevard, crappy corner before bridge, no PG, lap ruined. 1:11.70
#4: Good lap all round, breaking too much in last left corner. 1:05.85
#5: Copy & Paste from previous one, breaking less at the end. 1:05.05 (see video)

PS: I didn't count as laps those where I hit the slalom blocks or when magic carpeting before first corner except lap #1 (3/4 laps not counted)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4XUPy9Lnt4&feature=youtu.be

Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on February 12, 2013, 09:09:16 AM
Lap 1 - 1:11.75: Too cautious
Lap 2 -    DNF   : Stupid rookie mistake, hitting the red wall on the corkscrew
Lap 3 - 1:08.40: A little sliding on last corner cost me a few secs
Lap 4 - 1:05.55: Good clean lap
Lap 5 -    DNF   : All or nothing lap, crashing into the boulevard trying to get PG there

#1: Breaking too late in corner 1, almost sliding and touching the grass. Rest of the lap used to measure track elements' speed limits. 1:09.45
#2: Clean lap until the bridge, breaking too early at the end of it. 1:06.00
#3: Crappy corner before boulevard, crappy corner before bridge, no PG, lap ruined. 1:11.70
#4: Good lap all round, breaking too much in last left corner. 1:05.85
#5: Copy & Paste from previous one, breaking less at the end. 1:05.05 (see video)

PS: I didn't count as laps those where I hit the slalom blocks or when magic carpeting before first corner except lap #1 (3/4 laps not counted)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4XUPy9Lnt4&feature=youtu.be



I should repeat it, too...
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on February 22, 2013, 11:46:12 PM
So, the new try:

Lap 1: safety solutions in the first part, average cornering before the finish straight - then screwing up with a bad last corner... a left one... shame on me... 1:06.10

Lap 2: still safe driving, missing powergear on the ramp, fine left corners; result is a "solid" 1:07.20 (bah...)

Lap 3: everything goes well... still everything... even the boulevard jump... even the bridge... corner: excellent... corner: flawless... OH MY GOD, PROBABLY MY FASTEST DEFAULT LAP EVER (staring the clock instead of the road)... last corner: too tight, touching the grass, losing a lot of speed. "AKURVAANYÁDBAZDMEG!!!", the usual overconfidence based mistake... or the world famous weak nerves of CTG? The clock stops at 1:03.95 - however, I did not press the UP arrow in the last one second of it...

3 minutes for pee & calming down

Lap 4: first half seems to be strong mediorce, no boulevard jump, the second part is nice. 1:04.95, not so bad.

Lap 5 (new tactics, hiding the clock part with a small piece of sticky note): strong, well-balanced replay, although not a brilliant one. The final 1:04.05 surprised me a bit, I expected about 1.5 s worse.

++ Surviving all runs
+< 1:04 lap after a long time
+ developing a different, relaxed, less risky keypress technique for the right corners (yes, we can learn new things even after 20 years)
-- Losing my best Default result ever by a stupid, very CTGish mistake... that's live racing - the "perfect" first 90% means nothing if you are a loser in sharp situations...
--- Losing self-control because of a game
Title: Re: Default
Post by: alanrotoi on February 23, 2013, 12:00:22 AM
I'm happy with my current time (rpl lost :() and I think won't race in that track again. :D

Title: Re: Default
Post by: Friker on February 23, 2013, 01:05:45 AM
What rules do you use?
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Chulk on February 23, 2013, 01:13:26 AM
Instructions for tonight:

Open Stunts.
Select Default track.
Pick the Indy.
Give five serious tries to it, like at WSM.
Don't publish your results, if you don't want to. But please tell how many of your laps finished with a crash.
I would add: Classic line, NoRH, no shortcuts.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: alanrotoi on February 23, 2013, 01:15:34 AM
Basing of the times I think it's norh.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Chulk on February 23, 2013, 01:42:42 AM
That's why I added it to CTG's quoted rules
Title: Re: Default
Post by: alanrotoi on February 23, 2013, 02:40:54 AM
Yes, I left open the "post reply" window and when I was about to post it, yours appeared. I sent it anyway xD
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Duplode on February 23, 2013, 03:42:02 AM
I would add: Classic line, NoRH, no shortcuts.

In addition, I assume that in this context no shortcuts doesn't mean strict IRC rules, so the old-school cork cut is allowed, and getting momentarily on fast grass at the chicane is no problem either.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Friker on February 23, 2013, 01:19:59 PM
Fisrt five tries: DNF

Second run:
1. 1:14.10
2. 1:18.80
3. 1:16.15
4. 1:11.45
5. 1:11.35

Third run:
1. DNF
2. 1:13.55
3. 1:08.80
4. DNF
5. DNF

Probably my longest session with INDY ever :)
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on February 23, 2013, 01:31:30 PM
Fisrt five tries: DNF

Second run:
1. 1:14.10
2. 1:18.80
3. 1:16.15
4. 1:11.45
5. 1:11.35

Third run:
1. DNF
2. 1:13.55
3. 1:08.80
4. DNF
5. DNF

Probably my longest session with INDY ever :)

Not an insult, but these are quite weak laps. I guess you make something wrong, because your Le Stunts skills seem to be a lot stronger than that. Do you reach powergear on the bridge?
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on February 23, 2013, 09:36:44 PM
whooohoooo, 5 successful (semi-)drunk tries:

1:11.30; 1:13.50 ;D; 1:08.10; 1:06.60; 1:05.95!
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Friker on February 23, 2013, 10:45:12 PM
...
Probably my longest session with INDY ever :)

Not an insult, but these are quite weak laps. I guess you make something wrong, because your Le Stunts skills seem to be a lot stronger than that. Do you reach powergear on the bridge?

Did I mention that I hate INDY, I never raced with INDY etc.? I reached PG only once in DNFs (in the first pack) and that 1:08 time. In general, I do not like fast cars because they require some skill which I do not have because I do not have a talent and I don't (and didn't) play Stunts so much.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: alanrotoi on February 23, 2013, 11:17:19 PM
A new meme: He wins a track on zakstunts... he says is not talented.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on February 24, 2013, 01:10:08 AM
Alain sucked in noRH and still - he's one of the legendary champions.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on August 07, 2013, 08:46:15 AM
I just realized that my Default RH record is pathetic... ::)
Title: Re: Default
Post by: BonzaiJoe on August 16, 2013, 05:20:19 PM
Do you mean with or without shortcuts?
I think Alain did 59 seconds. Renato Biker could probably do it faster. I'd be quite interested in his time.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on August 16, 2013, 09:27:22 PM
RH: with
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Akoss Poo on November 08, 2013, 05:44:49 PM
Well, yesterday and today I did some training laps on Default, Indy, manual, without replay handling and shortcuts.

I was surprised to see that 5 minutes ago I did 1:03.10!!! It's my best time in the past several years!

(My record: I find there 1:02.70, but if I remember well, I could improve it to .40 or .10, I don't know.)
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Akoss Poo on November 08, 2013, 05:52:07 PM
Well, yesterday and today I did some training laps on Default, Indy, manual, without replay handling and shortcuts.

I was surprised to see that 5 minutes ago I did 1:03.10!!! It's my best time in the past several years!

(My record: I find there 1:02.70, but if I remember well, I could improve it to .40 or .10, I don't know.)

And it's 1:03.05 now!!!
Title: ZCT 149 is an awful track!
Post by: CTG on December 06, 2013, 01:23:19 PM
addict
Title: Re: Default
Post by: alanrotoi on December 07, 2013, 01:30:24 AM
I'll give 1 try now :D
Title: Re: Default
Post by: alanrotoi on December 07, 2013, 01:33:11 AM
1:11.30 :(
I didn't crash at least...

edit 1: I went 2 times out of the road. 1st the right corner after the cork left/right and 2nd after the long bridge (I didn't remember if the corner was just after the bridge or after a couple of squares.)

No shortcuts btw.

edit 2: wow only 3 minutes opening dos box, loading the game, choosing the car, a test lap and posting the result here :D

edit 3: test lap: 1:11.30
opening dos box, loading the game, choosing the car, saving record in highscore and posting the result here: 1:36.00
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on January 09, 2015, 04:24:05 PM
It's time to complete the annual Default test. Probably tonight, with video capturing.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Shoegazing Leo on January 09, 2015, 08:17:34 PM
Earning a position
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on January 10, 2015, 09:10:36 AM
It's time to complete the annual Default test. Probably tonight, with video capturing.

Since the circumstances were not really optimal for racing, I did not follow the WSM live race method.

From 20 starts, I could complete only 11 laps (4 crashes on the cork, 3 at the boulevard, 2 game bugs when landing on the bridge). The fastest one was a low risk lap with almost perfect left corners, all the other runs contained a few minor or major mistakes.

Lap results:
1:03.75 (could have been a bit better with taking the risk of boulevard jump)
1:04.10 (one little mistake after the bridge, losing ~10-15 mph)
1:04.95 (safety lap)
1:04.95 (safety lap)
1:05.10 (major mistake in the last corner, leaving the road - with average cornering it could have been ~1:03.80-1:04.00)
1:05.55 (safety lap)
1:05.90 (no powergear)
1:07.20 (no powergear, extreme low risk lap)
1:07.75 (no powergear, one major mistake)
1:09.30 (no powergear, two major mistakes)
1:11.20 (absolute shitty lap with 4 short offroad parts, no powergear ::) )

At least I could improve my noRH right corners again - for me, it requires a totally different line compared to lefts. Earlier braking, starting the corner from the inside of the track instead.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: dreadnaut on January 10, 2015, 01:27:51 PM
Five NoRH attempts

1 - crash at boulevar
2 - 1.11.15
3 - 1.25.80 - went out at the last corner
4 - 1.11.75 - PG, but flew to far after the bridge
5 - 1.12.45 - missed the PG :|

Problem is, I leave the road in at least one corner every lap :P
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Shoegazing Leo on January 11, 2015, 12:55:01 AM
I made this with 1'00''25, but I do better with z999 test  :P
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Shoegazing Leo on January 11, 2015, 01:01:38 AM
59,30 without replay handling, but slower that the z999 replay... BÖFF
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Akoss Poo on January 14, 2015, 10:36:50 AM
I did 10 laps without replay handling and the dual-way change trick. The best of them was 1:03.85. That's a nice result since it was a long ago when I tried Default last time.

In this lap - as sometimes nowadays - when I reached power gear, I jumped off the ramp and I drove on the grass, close to the ramp, on the right side of it, to have an easier left turn after the ramp. It is a 'longcut' instead of a shortcut, since I drive a longer way than originally, but I think it is worthy. Have you ever tried this way?
Title: Re: Default
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 14, 2015, 12:47:54 PM
Nope. It's a strange middle way (if you're in PG anyway and can drive on the grass, why don't you just do a PG slide corner instead of braking?)
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Akoss Poo on January 14, 2015, 12:56:32 PM
Nope. It's a strange middle way (if you're in PG anyway and can drive on the grass, why don't you just do a PG slide corner instead of braking?)

For me, it's the most effective middle way.

PG slide: would result in much less finished laps, not worthy
driving on the ramp: difficult to brake (for me) before the bridge in time
driving left from the ramp: the paved left corner would be sharper, chance to finish with penalty unwantedly
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on January 14, 2015, 01:15:00 PM
It is a 'longcut' instead of a shortcut, since I drive a longer way than originally, but I think it is worthy. Have you ever tried this way?

The last time I used that way was in late 2001, when I tested the cheat cars (Lada Niva, Knight Rider). However, I think Default noRH racing has an unwritten rule: you have to make a close-to-OWOOT lap (you can leave the road only in chicanes or accidentally).
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Akoss Poo on January 14, 2015, 01:22:41 PM
It is a 'longcut' instead of a shortcut, since I drive a longer way than originally, but I think it is worthy. Have you ever tried this way?

The last time I used that way was in late 2001, when I tested the cheat cars (Lada Niva, Knight Rider). However, I think Default noRH racing has an unwritten rule: you have to make a close-to-OWOOT lap (you can leave the road only in chicanes or accidentally).

It's the first time I used this was in early 2014. In my opinion if I can leave the road in chicanes (and cut the corkscrew instead of driving around), I can drive close to the ramp as well, this is the same extent of help for me. I think the unwritten rule is only the prohibition of dual-way change. I consider these 'longcut' laps as 100% legal default no-RH laps, available to reach records with it, though my record was done without this little trick.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 14, 2015, 01:37:42 PM
In any case, I guess it would be faster to jump left of the ramp and cut the curve in PG.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 14, 2015, 01:42:10 PM
The unwritten rule of this way of driving on Default is that you cannot save time by leaving the road. The chicane is an exception to this for the simple reason that it would be very difficult to navigate the chicane in noRH. And in any case, all the chicane squares are a road. It only looks like a chicane. It's only graphics. You're not actually driving on grass.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Akoss Poo on January 14, 2015, 01:42:54 PM
In any case, I guess it would be faster to jump left of the ramp and cut the curve in PG.

But then you would be slower in the last two corners (from PG, I think, you should turn to third gear), I don't think that would be worthy. But you can try, in my eyes, only a dual-way-cut replay is an unreal Default record.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on January 14, 2015, 01:58:33 PM
Let's vote about that. :D

Btw the only thing I like in Poo's way is lowering the risk of bug crashes when you land on the bridge.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 14, 2015, 02:02:52 PM
In any case, I guess it would be faster to jump left of the ramp and cut the curve in PG.

But then you would be slower in the last two corners (from PG, I think, you should turn to third gear), I don't think that would be worthy. But you can try, in my eyes, only a dual-way-cut replay is an unreal Default record.

That makes a little more sense. But of course, it means that inevitably, a noRH record attempt will have to do corkscrew-PG-spin and keep PG until the curve after the ramp. This is difficult, but clearly possible to do in noRH, and replays with this trick will be at least 5 seconds faster than those without it.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Akoss Poo on January 14, 2015, 02:28:40 PM
I've just driven 1:02.50. This is a lower value than my old home computer record (which is probably not my record, since I think I had 1:02.10/40 on the university CPU).
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on January 14, 2015, 02:38:59 PM
I've just driven 1:02.50. This is a lower value than my old home computer record (which is probably not my record, since I think I had 1:02.10/40 on the university CPU).

It seems I have to try this way... ::)

But still, I suggest to keep the old records with driving on the bridge. If you do 1:01.90 with this way, it will be a weaker replay IN GENERAL than your 1:02.10/40 was.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Akoss Poo on January 14, 2015, 07:53:01 PM
Well, first finished lap this evening: 1:03.45 with STAYING ON THE RAMP.

It seems I'm in good shape, probably in the best since 2005. The constant no-replay handing driving on USC and ZSC tracks brought its result. Well, the goal is the WSM 2004 form (and a sub-1:02 Default lap, no matter how) - maybe there will be a WSM this year again (and maybe the small keyboard won't hinder my results like in 2008... only alcohol is an okay reason to be lame in a Stunts race).
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Akoss Poo on January 14, 2015, 08:23:51 PM
Well, it's 1:02.10 now, but with not staying on the ramp. Now it is sure that this is my no RH no dual-way change Default record all time.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Akoss Poo on January 14, 2015, 08:49:27 PM
Well, I did 1:03.10 with STAYING ON THE RAMP.

I think for me, the leaving of the ramp in powergear means around 0.7-0.8 seconds.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: CTG on January 14, 2015, 09:14:59 PM
Well, I did 1:03.10 with STAYING ON THE RAMP.

I think for me, the leaving of the ramp in powergear means around 0.7-0.8 seconds.

I guess it's more than 1 second for me, because I almost never take the risk with late braking.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Duplode on January 14, 2015, 11:44:47 PM
However, I think Default noRH racing has an unwritten rule: you have to make a close-to-OWOOT lap (you can leave the road only in chicanes or accidentally).

FWIW that is my interpretation as well.

Well, I did 1:03.10 with STAYING ON THE RAMP.

Pretty good. (I should try it again BTW.)
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Akoss Poo on January 15, 2015, 09:48:08 AM
Well, my point of view is that in 1996-97, when I didn't know any of you, I was having the fiercest battles in Stunts racing with my old opponent and classmate, Rözse Söndör. We used all the tricks we knew and invented. I'm sure that if we had known this 'longcut' trick on Default, we would have used it. ('LOME kerítéstaktika' was known by this time, though didn't have this name.) CTG's and Duplode's 'unwritten' rules (now written rule-like suggestments) are nothing for me on this classic track, related to our old racing attitude with Rözse Söndör. That's (one, but most impoartant reason) why I consider these laps as real Default no RH record laps.

(If you are too wide with this trick, the program automatically punishes you with penalty, like it sometimes happens.)
Title: Re: Default
Post by: BonzaiJoe on November 10, 2015, 11:59:50 PM
I just did this lap on Default (to my own surprise!). Until the end of the bridge, this is the perfect noRH lap for me, hitting 43.00 at the beginning of the transparent middle of the bridge.
Then, owing to a mistimed slowdown before the next corner and a somewhat imperfect final corner, I missed my personal record by 0.20, clocking in at 1.01.35. Still, this is the second best lap I've ever done on Default old style, following the road and noRH.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Duplode on November 11, 2015, 04:14:13 AM
Great! It is nice to have such a strong lap on the books.
Title: Re: Default
Post by: alanrotoi on November 11, 2015, 06:58:00 PM
Nice way of celebrating the 25th anniversary :)
Title: Re: Default
Post by: dreadnaut on June 04, 2018, 11:27:52 PM
I have done all the dishes, the sun has set, I have a cup of tea and a couple of candles on the table. Time for the five DEFAULT laps (http://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?topic=18.msg50237#msg50237)!

First try: uhm, what does DEFAULT look like again? Oh, yes, of course I remember. I still slow down too early before the first corner, but a combo boulevard jump + magic carpet + powergear at the bridge gets me toward the end of the track quite fast. Except I fly too far getting off the bridge, and waste forever getting back on the track. 1.17.50

Second try: argh, same mistake again! That powergear might be more a problem than anything else. 1.17.10

Third try: for some reason a touch the left key on the first slope, and land straight in front of a concrete slalom block. DNF :(

Fourth try: the car jumps nicely entering the cork, but I land diagonally and travel on some grass before the following corner. Still, I drive nice and clean between the boulevard and the bridge, and this time I exit powergear at the right moment. 1.09.95

Fifth try: all well until the second to last corner, where I leave the road and travel a couple of tiles on grass. 1.11.85

Have I mentioned I'm bad at this? ;D
Title: Re: Default
Post by: dreadnaut on March 01, 2019, 10:39:45 PM
I noticed this in the forum index, so I had go for a ride on Default! And what a ride!

First try: A good start! I seem to remember all the important mistakes, and I actually avoid most of them... except jump off the bridge with the wrong angle. But 1:08.25 is a really, really good time for me.

Second try: woooo, I'm on a roll! I go a bit long in the corner after the boulevard, but the fast grass of the chicane saves me; I also go a bit out at the last corner, but I end up on the other half of the junction! And still I close the lap at 1:07.55, which might be my personal record! I'm saving this replay :)

Third try: wrong angle out of the cork, and I roll out on the grass — 1:13.10.

Fourth try: a bit of mess with the gears before the bridge means I miss powergear, but I still close in 1:08.00

Fifth try: this is it, I'm ready, I'm tense! A really nice first corner, I do OK at the corner-chicane before the bridge, and reach powergear on the ramp; a good landing, a couple of decent corners... and it's 1:06.00 —woooooo! :o

Ah, it's the first time that I get decent numbers out of the Five Laps! Maybe it was a good idea to try this after racing on Race4Kicks (http://dimioca.com/r4k), which just happens to have an Indy track :P
Title: Re: Default
Post by: Seeker1982 on April 19, 2019, 08:24:25 PM
Since the Default-Track used to be the only track I drove in stunts for a very long time - for many years I tested out how fast each car can be with my own rules, which are very similar to the owoot-rules, I had to have a go at competing.

My personal record in the Porsche Indy is a 1:03,55 (no RH, lane switching etc, only cutting the corkscrew, and allowed speedup via the divided highway). With RH but still no bug-using, lane switching etc I just drove a 1:02,60.

Edit 25.4.2019: in the last days i spend quite a while on Default in the Porsche Indy, and just pulled a "magic" lap WITHOUT RH: a 1:02,40 which is even faster than my old PR on Default in the McLaren Honda MP4; with RH I improved this lap by 0,1sek, so it's a 1:02,30 - I attached this lap

Edit 29.4.2019: in the last 5days I did try my luck with the McLaren Honda MP4 and was able to pull a 1:00,80 without RH, and a 1:00,00 (no typo etc!) with RH (however still no dual-laneing or bug-using etc). I also attach this RH-Lap