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Title: SUMMER 2008
Post by: zaqrack on October 29, 2007, 05:04:58 PM
So, what are your plans?

We'll most likely repeat our train journey - but this time we'll buy The ScanRail pass, which lets us travel free in Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark.

My draft plan:
-Night train from Budapest to Berlin
-Train to Kiel, visit JTK and eat all of his Seafood.
-Train to Aarhus, enter Denmark, visit Bonzai Joe, and eat all of his Seafood.
-Train to Copenhagen, walk around
-Train to G?teborg, enter Sweden, visit my relatives, and eat all of their Seafood
-Train to Oslo, enter Norway, walk around
-Train to Trondheim, eat fresh Seafood
-Train to Bodo, see the midnight sun
-Train to Ostersund, back to Sweden and eat Lakefood :)
-Train to Tornio, enter Finland.
-Guess we can't skip Rovaniemi, if already up there north :)
-Train to Tampere, and sleep at some friends met last year in Estonia, eat all their Seafood
-Train to Helsinki
-Ferry to Tallinn, meet my Estonian friends, and guess what, eat Seafood :)
And from there either going home by bus/train stopping in the Baltic states (preferred version)
Or go home from Helsinki by plane.
   
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: Mislav on October 29, 2007, 09:25:17 PM
That's a lot of seafood.
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: zaqrack on October 29, 2007, 09:49:22 PM
you can never have enough seafood :)
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: CTG on October 30, 2007, 12:01:32 AM
Fish is not meat.
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: Chulk on October 30, 2007, 12:41:41 AM
Quote from: CTG on October 30, 2007, 12:01:32 AM
Fish is not meat.
I agree. And personally I find fish always leaves me starving, even if I eat a lot.
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: BonzaiJoe on October 30, 2007, 03:29:33 AM
Quote from: zaqrack on October 29, 2007, 05:04:58 PM
-Train to Aarhus, enter Denmark, visit Bonzai Joe, and eat all of his Seafood.


Yay!  : - D

I'll be sure to have lots of splaph ready for you.
And show you the beautiful weird places...

As for myself, I don't really have any plans yet, which is not unexpected.
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: JTK on October 30, 2007, 02:01:49 PM
Quote from: zaqrack on October 29, 2007, 05:04:58 PM
-Train to Kiel, visit JTK and eat all of his Seafood.

You're welcome anytime and then be prepared for mussels, crabs, fish of all kinds. :)
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: Krys TOFF on October 30, 2007, 08:00:21 PM
Nice trip once again. Lucky Zak. ;)
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: zaqrack on October 31, 2007, 05:05:55 PM
I'm trying to travel until I have time and possiblity (like a workplace where I can have unlimited days off work), and save all my money throughout the year to be able to do this :)

Most likely we'll do the trip in August. Exact schedule will be set in March-April. :)
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: JTK on November 01, 2007, 09:20:03 AM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on October 30, 2007, 03:29:33 AM
As for myself, I don't really have any plans yet, which is not unexpected.

:D 8)
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: Chulk on November 01, 2007, 03:15:56 PM
I can't believe you're planning 8 months in advance! I don't know what I'll do in summer 2008 and it's only 2 months away here!
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: CTG on November 04, 2007, 06:46:20 PM
Those who have too many freetime because of their lazy so called job can plan holidays... :P :D
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: zaqrack on November 05, 2007, 08:52:04 PM
your job is your choice. I could easily double my earnings with another job and have less free time. But free time is more important to me.

But I'll attend a job interview on Wednesday, I applied partly just for fun, and now they called me in. I'm curious what are they going to offer, if it's good enough for my needs and they also like me, I might accept it. Job location: Shenzhen, China.  8)
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: BonzaiJoe on November 05, 2007, 10:14:12 PM
Wow! Be sure to tell me how that goes...
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: Chulk on November 06, 2007, 05:28:28 AM
Quote from: zaqrack on November 05, 2007, 08:52:04 PM
Job location: Shenzhen, China.  8)
Will you change your name to Zak-san? (Yes, I know it's Japanese but still...)
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: Chulk on November 06, 2007, 05:29:12 AM
Quote from: zaqrack on November 05, 2007, 08:52:04 PM
Job location: Shenzhen, China.  8)
Will you change your name to Zak-san? (Yes, I know it's Japanese but still...)
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: JTK on November 06, 2007, 10:23:52 AM
Quote from: zaqrack on November 05, 2007, 08:52:04 PM
But I'll attend a job interview on Wednesday, I applied partly just for fun, and now they called me in. I'm curious what are they going to offer, if it's good enough for my needs and they also like me, I might accept it. Job location: Shenzhen, China.  8)

That would be a dream come true, wouldn't it? I wish you luck! :)
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: zaqrack on November 07, 2007, 05:33:23 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on November 05, 2007, 10:14:12 PM
Wow! Be sure to tell me how that goes...

Well, today I had the first round of interview, which could have been better, but I chose to play completely fair and straight, because for me this is the only way to go when applying for a position which would result in such a huge change in my life. (for example when asked about my worst thing, I really told a bad one - that when I face a task which I dislike, I sometimes tend not to be thorough and precise.), and also mentioned that keeping my girlfriend with me is an important matter for me - these are of course not the best things to say at an interview.) Next week we'll see if despite these they'll call me for the next round or not, the second interview suits me better - language skills (English+Chinese). If I also qualify there, only a last one to go, and if we get to an agreement, I'll be moving to Shenzhen around March - for 3 years at least.

The job turned out to be pretty intresting - this is a relatively small Hungarian company working as a "bridge" between Hungarian and Chinese companies by helping to find contacts, partners, or prepare new investments. They have an office in Budapest and one in Shanghai - and now they are planning to open a new branch in Shenzhen - the person they seek will be the one running this office and directing two subordinate Chinese employees. They also offer a flat, plane tickets and other travel costs, health insurance and other benefits in the package as well along with a decent Hungarian salary - which is worth a lot more in China.



Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: Mislav on November 07, 2007, 09:36:41 PM
Whoa! That sounds really interesting and kind of new life era for you Zak. That's a big change i suppose. What about seeing your friends, family, home town, country? Will you be able to visit them often over the year?

P.S. If you get the job in China (I wish you success) than, like you said, that's a huge step "...to find contacts, partners, or prepare new investments..." for the new chinese Stunts comunity  ;D

And I can already tell you that: there are lots of Chinese people  :o

P.S. Tomorrow, I have an interview at a company for city planning, urbanism etc. There a lots of architects competing this job, and they get such jobs much easier than we, the landscape architects. But things chance in Croatia, there is more and more the need for landscape architects to project and protect urban and rural spaces. So I also hope to pass the first interview. Ahm...do you think I should tell them about my Kalpen victory to impress the bosses?  ;)
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: BonzaiJoe on November 07, 2007, 09:55:58 PM
Quote from: zaqrack on November 07, 2007, 05:33:23 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on November 05, 2007, 10:14:12 PM
Wow! Be sure to tell me how that goes...

Well, today I had the first round of interview, which could have been better, but I chose to play completely fair and straight, because for me this is the only way to go when applying for a position which would result in such a huge change in my life. (for example when asked about my worst thing, I really told a bad one - that when I face a task which I dislike, I sometimes tend not to be thorough and precise.), and also mentioned that keeping my girlfriend with me is an important matter for me - these are of course not the best things to say at an interview.) Next week we'll see if despite these they'll call me for the next round or not, the second interview suits me better - language skills (English+Chinese). If I also qualify there, only a last one to go, and if we get to an agreement, I'll be moving to Shenzhen around March - for 3 years at least.

The job turned out to be pretty intresting - this is a relatively small Hungarian company working as a "bridge" between Hungarian and Chinese companies by helping to find contacts, partners, or prepare new investments. They have an office in Budapest and one in Shanghai - and now they are planning to open a new branch in Shenzhen - the person they seek will be the one running this office and directing two subordinate Chinese employees. They also offer a flat, plane tickets and other travel costs, health insurance and other benefits in the package as well along with a decent Hungarian salary - which is worth a lot more in China.





Okay - I think you're right to go honestly about it. That way you may lower your chances of getting the job, but you'll make things better for yourself in case you do get it. Is Shenzhen a nice place? Neither I nor any of my parents have been there.
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: Krys TOFF on November 08, 2007, 09:53:47 AM
Quote from: zaqrackthe second interview suits me better - language skills (English+Chinese).
You speak chinese ? :o
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: Mislav on November 08, 2007, 11:42:05 PM
here a picture
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: CTG on November 09, 2007, 08:08:55 PM
hahaha let's hope nobody wants to throw out zak from this office... ;D
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: zaqrack on November 09, 2007, 09:02:47 PM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on November 08, 2007, 09:53:47 AM
Quote from: zaqrackthe second interview suits me better - language skills (English+Chinese).
You speak chinese ? :o

let's say I'm learning it since two years and am progressing quite well :)
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: zaqrack on November 09, 2007, 09:11:03 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on November 07, 2007, 09:55:58 PM
Okay - I think you're right to go honestly about it. That way you may lower your chances of getting the job, but you'll make things better for yourself in case you do get it. Is Shenzhen a nice place? Neither I nor any of my parents have been there.

Well I have never been in China, so have no comparison, but as I concluded from the reviews of waiguo ren living there, it's quite a great place for a foreigner!
Hongkong is in the neighourhood, so it's very multicultural, especially for China. Also it is the fastest developing city in the world - +7,5 million inhabitants in 25 years! - so you can hardly find history there, but it refelcts the developing new China very much (it's also the most expensive city to live in China)
What I like the most, that the average age of people living there is around 29 years. That reminds me of Berlin, where in the Eastern part I also saw mostly young people - and it made the city very lively and interesting.
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: zaqrack on November 09, 2007, 09:20:29 PM
Quote from: Mislav on November 07, 2007, 09:36:41 PM
Whoa! That sounds really interesting and kind of new life era for you Zak. That's a big change i suppose. What about seeing your friends, family, home town, country? Will you be able to visit them often over the year?
I don't know yet. If I qualify for the next round of interview, I'll learn more about these
The most important is, that my girlfriend is eager and willing to come with me to live there. I wouldn't dare to apply for such a big step without her, just alone. If she is there with me, I can somehow live along without my family - and visiting them when I can.
I also don't know if I'd like to stay there. I plan to return, do who knows, maybe I'll like it a lot more than expected. But I wish to have excellent Chinese skills - and that can't happen without living some years there.
With  English and Chinese both mastered then I should have no problems to have an intresting and great job anywhere in the world, and especially in Hungary, China's planned gateway to Europe.
So if this job won't work out, we still might move. There are plenty of hotels built for the Olympics, and I have a degree in restaurant and hotel management after all, so probably it's not hard to get a job for next year - but of course it wouldnt be as comfortable as with this one I have applied for.


Quote from: Mislav on November 07, 2007, 09:36:41 PM
P.S. Tomorrow, I have an interview at a company for city planning, urbanism etc. There a lots of architects competing this job, and they get such jobs much easier than we, the landscape architects. But things chance in Croatia, there is more and more the need for landscape architects to project and protect urban and rural spaces. So I also hope to pass the first interview. Ahm...do you think I should tell them about my Kalpen victory to impress the bosses?  ;)
So how was it? I was cheering for you!
Don't brag with your victory, but bring some stunts track you created, and show the scenery to impress them, if they are hesitating. :)
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: Mislav on November 11, 2007, 03:46:33 PM
Aha, your girlfriend wants to join you? Then go!  :D That's a big difference. And for sure a great life expierence to work/live/love in China.   :) Did you watch "Lost in translation"? Great movie.

About my interview, I sadly forgot to mention Stunts. Maybe that's why they still didn't answer me  :(

A month ago I had a presentation in a townhall in front of a town councillor and many pressmen and town planning employees. It was about the revitalisation of a historic forrest promenade Carmen Sylva in Opatija (near Rijeka, on the Adriatic coast). So, next week I found a big article (even with my picture!) about my presentation in daily newspaper Novi list! But I still search for a job...(I got my diploma in July) but everybody search for workers with expierence, 3 yrs, 5 yrs etc... How can I start workinkg then with no expierence (I worked as student only and volunteer - no internship) ?! Do you have some working expierence Zak, when did you graduate?
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: zaqrack on November 11, 2007, 10:07:13 PM
our school required us to fulfill twice 5 months internship, that's why it's worth more than similar diplomas.
First 5 months was required to do in a restaurant and a hotel, the second one was your choice  - this is where I chose thy Hungarian Cyclists' Club, where I work ever since.
Salary is not much, but I have a great possibility to build contacts, and also I have an independent managers position, which is worth a lot, when applying for other positions. I also like this job, so I think its a great investment for the future.

It's of course hard to find a decent job with a fresh degree. I can recommend you two ways to go:

-apply for similar jobs you'd like to have, and work there for a year or a bit more, just to have some experience.
-find a non-governmental organization which works in the field of town planning (there must be many related to nature protection), and start working there - usually you get nothing in exchange - but a lot of experience and great contacts!
-and keep on searching for your dream job, don't give up!
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: Chulk on November 12, 2007, 05:15:08 AM
Quote from: Mislav on November 11, 2007, 03:46:33 PM
A month ago I had a presentation in a townhall in front of a town councillor and many pressmen and town planning employees. So, next week I found a big article (even with my picture!) about my presentation in daily newspaper Novi list!
Show us the newspaper picture!
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: BonzaiJoe on November 14, 2007, 06:51:29 PM
Zak: I've just looked Shenzhen up on Google Earth:

1. It's going to breally warm :)

2. Shenzhen is in Guangdong province, where the primary language is cantonese, is this not a problem?
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: Mislav on November 14, 2007, 07:16:54 PM
Thanks for advices Zak, I made already such a strategy plan for finding a job. First I looked for favorite jobs, and if there is no chance, let's find anything, just to make work expierenece. And you know what, I got the job!!  :o

It's a privat firm for town planning and architecture I already told, so I'll have a 2months contract with them, and then they will see. I like town planning etc. so I hope it will be interesting for me. What's great is that I have only 20 minutes WALK to the place. And on the way I pass the best "turkish kebeb" in the city! I already see myself every day walkinng home from job, eating a big kebab mmmmmmmmmm.... :D

You really want the newspaper picture Chulk? But don't try to read the text above, it's Croatian  :)
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: Chulk on November 15, 2007, 03:50:36 AM
Quote from: Mislav on November 14, 2007, 07:16:54 PM
You really want the newspaper picture Chulk? But don't try to read the text above, it's Croatian  :)
Who told you I can't read Croatian? OK, I can't BUT I found your name in the next, close to a word I think means "Engineering" or something like that and another one that seems to mean "Architechture" or something close to that, am I right?
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: zaqrack on November 15, 2007, 03:06:55 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on November 14, 2007, 06:51:29 PM
2. Shenzhen is in Guangdong province, where the primary language is cantonese, is this not a problem?
No, because it is really multicultural, especiall for China, and because of the mass presence of foreigners in the city, Mandarin is widely spoken and understood.

Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: zaqrack on November 15, 2007, 03:11:30 PM
Quote from: Mislav on November 14, 2007, 07:16:54 PM
It's a privat firm for town planning and architecture I already told, so I'll have a 2months contract with them, and then they will see. I like town planning etc. so I hope it will be interesting for me. What's great is that I have only 20 minutes WALK to the place. And on the way I pass the best "turkish kebeb" in the city! I already see myself every day walkinng home from job, eating a big kebab mmmmmmmmmm.... :D

From your first salary get a bike, and so that 20 minutes can be downed to 5, so you'll have more time to enjoy your kebab. And big congratulations for the job!

As for my job:
I'm still waiting the final confirmation, but I spoke with the CEO on tuesday, and he told me it's pretty sure I'll be the one of the candidates to qualify to the second round, where only two candidates qualify. Confirmed, I'm in the second round! So I'm really excited :)
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: BonzaiJoe on November 15, 2007, 03:29:51 PM
Congratulations Mislav! And congratulations Zak for qualifying to that stage! Very exciting indeed... It's hard to believe you could be going over there! I hope it will not mean that you will disappear completely...
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: Krys TOFF on November 15, 2007, 03:49:57 PM
Cool for you Zak and Mislav.
It seems new ZakStunts may be red with yellow stars instead of green. ;D
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: CTG on November 15, 2007, 05:45:06 PM
Too bad, if I finish PhD studies I also have to work some month in China... But it's still very far... ;)
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: Chulk on November 16, 2007, 07:32:33 AM
I already have a PhD... a Pretty Huge Dick!

Sorry, I know is a vulgar joke but I couldn't resist!
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: zaqrack on November 16, 2007, 11:47:57 AM
don't worry, looks like it's the season of the vulgar jokes :)

(it always is  :))
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: Krys TOFF on November 16, 2007, 01:27:54 PM
Quote from: Chulk on November 16, 2007, 07:32:33 AM
I already have a PhD... a Pretty Huge Dick!

Sorry, I know is a vulgar joke but I couldn't resist!
Lool ! Better than mine in Paks topic. :D ;D
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: CTG on November 27, 2007, 01:43:45 AM
What about WSM 2008?
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: JTK on November 27, 2007, 10:08:38 AM
Quote from: CTG on November 27, 2007, 01:43:45 AM
What about WSM 2008?
Quote from: CTG on May 06, 2007, 10:39:33 PM
I hope we will have one in 2008 but I think people will lose more and more their interest in this game and so in Forum/chatting activity with other pipsqueaks. Less contact, less mood to meet. But I really hope I'm wrong with this opinion.
??? :-\
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: CTG on November 27, 2007, 11:31:01 AM
I really wonder about it. I still think there won't be a meeting anymore - and I still hope that I'm just wrong. I want to drink beer with you all again. :D
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: zaqrack on November 27, 2007, 06:10:07 PM
when two pipsqueaks meet its a meeting ;) when two pipsqueaks from different countries meet, its an international meeting. When two pipsqueaks from different countries meet, and the date and time was previously announced, its a WSM :)

So go on, organize one! ;)
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: CTG on November 27, 2007, 10:34:16 PM
Okay: Diesel Joe, bring me some weed in July! ;D
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: zaqrack on November 29, 2007, 05:24:38 PM
DEAR PIPSQUEAKS, I JUST GOT MY DREAM JOB! :)

Things have been altered a bit since the original concept. The CEO told me, that they felt I'm worth more than to be a project manager in Shenzhen. They are since a long time searching someone who could be the new head of their Chinese department.
So they thought I could be the one. We'll sign the contract next week, and I'll start working there in January.
For the first two years my job will be to learn Chinese intensively - everyday with a private teacher, and to always accompany one of the owners with their duties and appointments, and slowly learn every little detail of the job. I'll be living here in Budapest but I'll travel to China around 6-8 times a year for 1-2 weeks. After two years, if everything went fine, I learned all the things I have to know and already am a fluent Chinese speaker, I'll be moving (with Andi) to Shanghai and lead the main Chinese office there.

I'm so excited :)

       
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: CTG on November 29, 2007, 05:30:45 PM
But before that you should close ZSC 2007... ;D

Anyway congratulations!
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: Duplode on November 29, 2007, 05:53:24 PM
That's plain awesome Zak  8), congratulations!
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: JTK on November 30, 2007, 08:57:06 AM
Zak! Congratulations! Whow! :) O.k., now I have to plan my first trip to China. 8)
I hope that nevertheless you will still have the time to stay in the community or at least think of your old Stunts contest (host) mates.

(And now I' m a alittle bit sad of not seeing you next summer and now knowing, that meetings in the Budapest Stunts Central (your appartement) are history... :'( In every new beginning there's an end to something traditional and each ending means a new start... :))
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: Krys TOFF on November 30, 2007, 09:59:13 AM
Grat's Zak ! Well done. ;)
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: zaqrack on November 30, 2007, 10:17:50 AM
Quote from: JTK on November 30, 2007, 08:57:06 AM

(And now I' m a alittle bit sad of not seeing you next summer and now knowing, that meetings in the Budapest Stunts Central (your appartement) are history... :'( In every new beginning there's an end to something traditional and each ending means a new start... :))

We still might have a meeting here, remember, I'll be still living in Budapest for two years :) I only have to get rid of my brother to gain some space for us ;)
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: CTG on November 30, 2007, 10:08:50 PM
So shall we expect something in Budapest again? It would be great to increase the number of participants.
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: Mislav on December 02, 2007, 11:34:11 PM
Zak, congratulations for your job! It sounds amazing! I'll have some translations for you, allways wanted to know how to say something on chinese, so I'll be asking you! And good luck with learning chinese. I don't have time anymore, after work at 5 p.m. it's already dark and I'm tired and don't a mood for sitting in front of a computer since I work on it the whole day. So sorry if I'm not around so often!

And yes, we want to celebrate a new ZSC champion, who ever it will be...  :D Let's make a race to remember, everybody - drive the ZCT79!
Title: Re: SUMMER 2008
Post by: CTG on December 02, 2007, 11:35:37 PM
Quote from: Mislav on December 02, 2007, 11:34:11 PM
And yes, we want to celebrate a new ZSC champion, who ever it will be...  :D

Already clear, check overall scores... ;D