The usual annual thing...
I just read an incredible stat about the Hungarian national team. Our last big world event was in 1986 (Mexico) when we could qualify. Since that we had 34 qualification matches versus teams who qualified in the certain qualification round. Results? 34 matches, 1 (!!!) victory, 11 draw, 22 loss (as a home team: 1-8-8, as a guest: 0-3-14). Crappy...
World Cup 2010 qualifications, we start and we finish with Denmark:
2008.09.06. Hungary - Denmark
2008.09.10. Sweden - Hungary
2008.10.11. Hungary - Albania
2008.10.15. Malta - Hungary
2009.03.28. Albania - Hungary
2009.04.01. Hungary - Albania
2009.09.05. Hungary - Sweden
2009.09.09. Hungary - Portugal
2009.10.10. Portugal - Hungary
2009.10.14. Denmark - Hungary
Ah, it's always good to start and finish with an easy victory ;D
Sad but true. ;D
Quote from: CTG on January 06, 2008, 11:18:13 PM
Sad but true. ;D
Metallica - Sad but trueHey ! I?m your life
I?m the one who takes you there
Hey ! I?m your life
I?m the one who cares
They, they betray
I?m your only true friend now
They, they?ll betray
I?m forever there
I?m your dream, make you real
I?m your eyes when you must steal
I?m your pain when you can?t feel
Sad but true
I?m your dream, mind astray
I?m your eyes while you?re away
I?m your pain while you repay
You know it?s sad but true, sad but true
You, you?re my mask
You?re my cover, my shelter
You, you?re my mask
You?re the one who?s blamed
Do, do my work
Do my dirty work, scapegoat
Do, do my deeds
For you?re the one who?s shamed
I?m your dream, make you real
I?m your eyes when you must steal
I?m your pain when you can?t feel
Sad but true
I?m your dream, mind astray
I?m your eyes while you?re away
I?m your pain while you repay
You know it?s sad but true,sad but true
I'm your dreams,
I'm your eyes,
I'm your pain
I'm your dreams
I'm your eyes
I'm your pain
I'm your dreams
I'm your eyes
I'm your pain
You know it?s sad but true
Hate, I?m your hate
I?m your hate when you want love
Pay, pay the price
Pay for nothing?s fair
Hey, I?m your life
I?m the one who took you there
Hey, I?m your life
And I no longer care
I?m your dream, make you real
I?m your eyes when you must steal
I?m your pain when you can?t feel
Sad but true
I?m your truth, telling lies
I?m your reasoned alibis
I?m inside open your eyes
I?m you
Sad but true
Very evident one but I still like it. :D
I think CTG mentioned the expression "sad but true" exactly because of the Metallica song. But really, a very good song, one of my favourites from post-80s Metallica.
Another Chelsea victory (vs Everton) with a lucky goal after 90th minute... Annoying!
After a miserable procedure, P?ter V?rhidi is still the coach of Hungarian national team. Henk Ten Cate was too expensive to employ. ;D (although he used to be the coach of MTK Budapest in the late 90's)
Nigeria - Mali 0-0
WHAT THE F U C K IS WITH NIGERIA?!?!
Damn, they used at least reaching the playoffs before crashing... :( Lucky for them that Mali will take Cote d'Ivoire next round.
Mali isn't a bad team at all I think, they have some stars like Kanout
My mind stopped somewhere in 1998 when Nigeria was the undisputed best of Africa. It's so strange to see them suck.
Hungary is a different thing. We are suffering because we have no real tactics. Due to the skills of our players we should be a lot higher but somehow they can't work together. Realistic Hungarian eleven with Mattheus (why he was fired... :() would be at the level of Denmark and Scotland. With the current coach: Moldavia, Bosnia...
Quote from: CTG on January 26, 2008, 12:42:12 AM
Hungary is a different thing. We are suffering because we have no real tactics. Due to the skills of our players we should be a lot higher but somehow they can't work together. Realistic Hungarian eleven with Mattheus (why he was fired... :() would be at the level of Denmark and Scotland. With the current coach: Moldavia, Bosnia...
Wow, so you Hungarians did find Matthaeus good? I'm surprised - his fiasco at Atl?tico Paranaense a couple of years ago is stil fresh in my mind... :-\
Mattheus found the core of the strongest Hungarian eleven...
Off-topic: 4th alcoholic vomit of my life...
Comedy of the (historical) most successful Hungarian football club continues. Two years ago Ferencv?ros was relegated to second class due to their heavy financial problems. Their crisis became deeper and deeper, they were even close to losing their stadium. Then came a calling for a tender to save the club with a new owner. Five rounds of the tender was done without any results, all the applications were refused by the state; even the best presented by Kevin McCabe, owner of Sheffield United FC. After this fifth round McCabe became furious and gave up trying. But Ferencv?ros leaders went to him to lick a bit and now he tries it again. Let me guess: the state will refuse his offer again, Ferencv?ros will go bankrupt and somebody (close to our current government) will earn a lot by selling the stadium estate...
Damn... due to broadcasting arguement between Belgium vs Italy and France, a nice spring football tournament with four national teams is cancelled (Italy, France, Belgium, Hungary).
Although I don't like Bal?zs Dzsudzs?k (left attacking midfield of Hungarian national team), I have to say he made a great intoduction in PSV Eindhoven. He scored already his 3rd goal in his new team - the last one versus Ajax Amsterdam.
Egypt - Zambia 1-1 (1-0)
goals: Zaki (15.), C. Katongo (89.)
;D Zaki is still a top player ;D
and C. Katongo plays in the danish league...
Quote from: CTG on January 31, 2008, 01:07:23 PM
Egypt - Zambia 1-1 (1-0)
goals: Zaki (15.), C. Katongo (89.)
;D Zaki is still a top player ;D
Just after I read this message, I went to the closet, I had to take a shit. I switched on tv, and I sat on the toilet to push the shit out of myself. Just when the first piece came out, I saw Zaki scoring that goal on Eurosport 2 (about 1 minute after I read CTG's post)! Forever shitting and watching tv together! I also got to know that it was Zaki's 22nd international goal!
Shitting while door is open... Do you live in a cave?
Quote from: CTG on February 01, 2008, 01:00:22 AM
Shitting while door is open... Do you live in a cave?
No. What's the matter with shitting while the door is open? When nobody but me is at home, nobody cares about my shit smell. When you're shitting in the bushes, you do the same - you and your shit are open for the whole world - but in real, you are alone among the bushes.
By the way, Diósgyör-Kazincbarcika 2-2 on a preparration match. Dirty Diósgyör!!! :-*
I never do outdoor shitting... :D
Dicksucker Újpest!!!
Sansovino (ITA, Serie C2/B, placed one before last there) - Újpest 1-0 ;D ;D ;D
Sansovino must be a very weak Italian team, but still, better than one of the best Hungarian teams, Újpest, which is a dicksucker. A team called "San Marino" also plays in Serie C2/B and they are fifth, so Újpest sucked against a weaker team than San Marino... LOL LOL LOL ;D ;D ;D
But they beated Livorno (Serie A) few days ago...
Quote from: CTG on February 03, 2008, 11:56:26 PM
But they beated Livorno (Serie A) few days ago...
Yes, but far not their first team.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on February 01, 2008, 08:39:20 AM
By the way, Diósgyör-Kazincbarcika 2-2 on a preparration match. Dirty Diósgyör!!! :-*
Are you sure that was the smiley you were looking for? :D
Standings of Hungarian first class. ETO has quite a good season so far...
| 1 | MTK Budapest | 10 | 4 | 2 | 38-14 | 34 |
| 2 | DVSC-TEVA | 9 | 5 | 2 | 35-16 | 32 |
| 3 | Újpest FC | 9 | 5 | 2 | 35-17 | 32 |
| 4 | Budapest Honvéd | 9 | 4 | 3 | 32-19 | 31 |
| 5 | Gabona Trans - Kaposvár | 8 | 5 | 3 | 25-20 | 29 |
| 6 | Györi ETO | 7 | 7 | 2 | 33-19 | 28 |
| 7 | ZTE FC | 8 | 3 | 5 | 33-22 | 27 |
| 8 | Fehérvár FC | 7 | 2 | 7 | 25-21 | 23 |
| 9 | Nyíregyháza | 6 | 4 | 6 | 12-19 | 22 |
| 10 | Vasas | 4 | 5 | 7 | 18-25 | 17 |
| 11 | REAC | 4 | 3 | 9 | 14-26 | 15 |
| 12 | BFC Siófok | 3 | 6 | 7 | 16-22 | 15 |
| 13 | Paksi FC | 3 | 5 | 8 | 23-34 | 14 |
| 14 | Diósgyöri VTK | 2 | 7 | 7 | 16-31 | 13 |
| 15 | Tatabánya FC | 1 | 2 | 13 | 19-48 | 5 |
| 16 | FC Sopron | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0-0 | 0 |
Sopron was disqualified after the autumn season because of financial problems. Other teams will get 3-0 victory automatically without playing with them in the spring season.
So Tatabánya's one victory is automatic 3-0 vs Sopron? :)
Yay for MTK Budapest!
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on February 26, 2008, 10:39:34 AM
So Tatabánya's one victory is automatic 3-0 vs Sopron? :)
No. It will be added after the round in which they would meet Sopron. Tatabánya made a surprising victory versus Budapest Honvéd in the 15th round.
But check Nyíregyháza: 16 matches, scored 12 goals, got 19. Last round: Györi ETO - Nyíregyháza 5-0... 8)
A news CTG will like. Argentina's tour in Europe will be played with Argentina's first team.
Matches are vs. Cataluña (24/5), Jamaica (1/6) :D & Hungary (4/6) ;).
Hungary - England 15-0 (6-0)!!!
in futsal ;D
Quote from: CTG on February 29, 2008, 07:59:40 PM
Hungary - England 15-0 (6-0)!!!
in futsal ;D
Great result! Are you really that good or is England really that bad?
Second option (I'm afraid... :D)
Quote from: CTG on February 29, 2008, 08:08:34 PM
Second option (I'm afraid... :D)
You are wrong, Hungarian futsal is close to world elite. They have chance to qualify for the world cup in Brazil. They have to beat the Polish tomorrow (they beat ENG 10-2, MKD 3-2, we beat them 15-0 and 3-0, respectively, so we are the better I think), and then we got through this qualifying group. We are in Europe Top 12 then, these 12 will be randomized into pairs, and the winners can travel to the WCH. Only six places for Europe, but Hungary has a chance I think.
Btw during the broadcast, commentary said that Argentina only beat the English 12-1 on a friendly cup.
In a South American tournament last year, we almost beat the Argentinian team in the semifinal.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on February 29, 2008, 09:22:48 PM
Quote from: CTG on February 29, 2008, 08:08:34 PM
Second option (I'm afraid... :D)
[...]they beat ENG 10-2, MKD 3-2, we beat them 15-0 and 3-0, respectively, so we are the better I think
That doesn't mean anything. Before Germany '06 we played against Hungary and won 2-1. Then, during the World Cup, we beat Serbia & Montenegro 6-0. Does it mean you are better (or less worse if you want) than S&M? I don't think so.
About ranking, I couldn't find an updated World ranking of Futsal.
Well, now I saw the end of the POL-MKD match on tv, 6-2 the end. So 1. Hungary 6 pts (18-0) 2. Poland 6 pts (16-4) 3. Macedonia 0 pts (2-9) 4. England 0 pts (2-25). So a draw is enough on Sunday to get to the knockout pairings stage.
During the broadcast, they said Hungary was in the 1st pot when the draw happened, and Poland in the 2nd pot. They also said taht Hungary is twelfth on the World Rank List. Quite good I think. This is not football. :)
What the heck is Futsal ???
Futsal = FIFA-sanctioned indoor football, with 5 players on each team.
FutSal (Futbol Sala in spanish, or Futbol de Salon in Portuguese, i.e. in-door football) has been created in the 30's in south America.
It is mainly a South American sport, with logical extension in Europe in Spain and Portugal. Since last years, eastern Europe countries started to play it more seriously, especially Russia, Czech rep., Slovakia or Belarus.
European championship organization team is in Russia, European club championship was dominated by Spain and portugal first, and by Russia since around 10 years.
France has an official organization since 2002 only. This is when I first heard about it. We really don't care about it in France, although it is often more spectacular to see compared to real football due to shorter terrain (handball terrain is used).
Paraguay has been world champion 3 times (1988, 2003, 2007), Brazil twice (1982, 1st world championship, and 1985). Argentina (1994), Columbia (2000), Portugal (1991) and Venezuela (1997) has been world champions once.
Portugal is the only non-South American country to have been world champion. Spain had been vice-world champion in 1985.
Originally it was an independant federation (FIFUSA, renamed AMF), it seems now that it is co-organized with FIFA and that there are 2 different classification : FIFA one and AMF one. Sounds weird... the one I talked above is AMF one.
It is said that in Brazil there are more people playing FutSal than real football, I don't know if it's true.
Györi ETO FC - Debrecen (champion of the last three seasons) 3-1 (1-0) ;D
Beware, we are coming! ;)
Ah that's it. I love to play that. In Denmark, we have a national club championship of that, but no national team.
12th place was on the December 2007 world rank list. The newest futsal world rank list:
1 Brazil
2 Spain
3 Italy
4 Russia
5 Portugal
6 Iran
7 Argentina
8 Ukraine
9 Serbia
10 Japan
11 Thailand
12 Paraguay
13 USA
14 Croatia
15 Czech Republic
16 Hungary
17 Belarus
18 Slovenia
19 Belgium
20 Uzbekistan
...
54 Denmark
...
60 France
...
120 England
No Germany on the wrl :D
Thailand is a big surprise, as their football team is really bad...
Quote from: Krys TOFF on March 01, 2008, 10:53:10 AM
It is said that in Brazil there are more people playing FutSal than real football, I don't know if it's true.
The quote feels a bit bold, but it's true in metropolitan centers Futsal is at least on par with "field" Footbal (as we would call the normal game in opposition to Futsal) due to the simpler logistics (space, number of players, etc.), specially for casual games or among kids.
Iran's 6th place is also quite surprising! By the way, it's really entertaining to watch it. There are many goals and I really like it because usually who plays better, wins. There is no possibility to defend your goal with all of our 11 players like in football.
WCH qualifying groups in futsal:
Hungary-Poland 6-2 (4-1)
So Hungary won the group easily. 10 group winners and 2 best runners-up qualified for the final knockout stage. The pairings' draw will be issued on Wednesday. The winners of those pairings will qualify for the WCH. Quite unfair, but the teams are seeded in two pots, and these seedings are not based on the qualifying matches, rather on world rank list. Hungary just missed the first pot, so we will have to play against ITALY, SPAIN, RUSSIA, PORTUGAL, UKRAINE or the CZECH REPUBLIC. I would suck CTG's dick for 15 minutes if Czech Republic became our opponent.
I will suck Alain Péré's dick for 15 minutes if you suck CTG's dick for 15 minutes.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on March 03, 2008, 08:22:56 PM
I will suck Alain Péré's dick for 15 minutes if you suck CTG's dick for 15 minutes.
BJ's BJ!!!
What happen to Serbia and Croatia?
Hungary vs Argentina (2008. 06. 04.) cancelled! The Argentinian Football Association changed opinion without any warning and made a contract with Mexico for the same day...
Quote from: CTG on March 06, 2008, 08:57:52 AM
Hungary vs Argentina (2008. 06. 04.) cancelled! The Argentinian Football Association changed opinion without any warning and made a contract with Mexico for the same day...
No offense, but I prefer playing against strong teams every friendly match we can. And Mexico is sure stronger than Hungary. Anyway, I don't aprobe the way it was cancelled without further notice.
ÁLÉÁLÉÁLÉÁLÉÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓ, FASZSZOPÓ ÚJPEST!!!
Újpest-Debrecen 1-5 yesterday ;D
Anderlecht - Bayern München 0-5 (0-2) :o
It seems that Bayern takes UEFA Cup very seriously.
Argentina's team to face Egypt on 26-May.
GK: Abbondanzieri, Ustari, Romero
DF:Zanetti, Demichelis, Gaby Milito, Heinze, Burdisso, Coloccini
MF:Zabaleta, Mascherano, Gago, Cambiasso, Maxi Rodríguez, Lucho González
FW:Lisandro López, Agüero, Cruz, Lavezzi y Cavenaghi.
There are obviously some players missing the match (Riquelme, Messi, Tevez...)
Quote from: Chulk
There are obviously some players missing the match (Riquelme, Messi, Tevez...)
I don't know about the other 2, but Messi is injured for a few weeks.
Bah, too many "english" teams are still alive in UEFA Champion's League... I hate those bought, soulless squads.
Unlike the spanish and italian teams, who have only players that they have trained themselves? :)
Okay, try to tell me 11 really good English players. I can name even more from Spain and Italy - what a "surprise", they qualified to EURO 2008. England - as a national football team - is almost dead. They have no real talents, because almost every Premier League teams prefer foreign stars.
Spain and Italy are slightly different from this.
Quote from: CTG on March 12, 2008, 07:53:37 AM
Okay, try to tell me 11 really good English players. I can name even more from Spain and Italy - what a "surprise", they qualified to EURO 2008. England - as a national football team - is almost dead. They have no real talents, because almost every Premier League teams prefer foreign stars.
This was different before Shengen treaty, and it may be different in a few years.
MU and Arsenal started to go back to mainly UK players in their "young" teams (under 17 years old). We all know that Arsenal young training leads to good players, look at Fabregas for example.
Do not expect new english players from Chelsea, but Liverpool, MU or Arsenal can bring new very good English players in a few years.
Some example of promising players : Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Gavin Hoyte (Arsenal), Paul Rodgers (Arsenal), Scott Moffatt (MU), Michael Scott (Liverpool), ... There are also some Irish and Scottish promising players in the youth teams in England.
And remember that Scholes or Rooney (both at MU) are still 24 and 23 years old, they are still at the beginning of their career and they will still progress.
Of course, it will take a time to see all these English players with enough experience to play well for their national team, but I'm sure that English team will be much stronger for future competitions. Maybe not for next World Cup in 2010, but probably for Euro 2012.
Quote from: Krys TOFF on March 12, 2008, 12:51:06 PM
And remember that Scholes or Rooney (both at MU) are still 24 and 23 years old, they are still at the beginning of their career and they will still progress.
Actually, Paul Scholes is 35 YO (born 16/Nov/1971).
Quote from: Krys TOFF on March 12, 2008, 12:51:06 PM
And remember that Scholes (...) are still 24 and 23 years old (...)
Surely you were think about baby-faced, whining baby, Cristiano Ronaldo... :D (Though I'll concede he is not that annoying lately, and is a
damn good player)
Quote from: Duplode on March 13, 2008, 02:13:43 AM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on March 12, 2008, 12:51:06 PM
And remember that Scholes (...) are still 24 and 23 years old (...)
Surely you were think about baby-faced, whining baby, Cristiano Ronaldo... :D (Though I'll concede he is not that annoying lately, and is a damn good player)
And he's certainly fast as hell! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L148D_E3Jo)
Quote from: Chulk on March 12, 2008, 10:24:14 PM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on March 12, 2008, 12:51:06 PM
And remember that Scholes or Rooney (both at MU) are still 24 and 23 years old, they are still at the beginning of their career and they will still progress.
Actually, Paul Scholes is 35 YO (born 16/Nov/1971).
Oh, right, except that he was born in 1974, so he is 34 years old. :P I thought he was born in 1984, my mistake. Anyway, he doesn't look his age so much.
Quote from: Duplode on March 13, 2008, 02:13:43 AM
Surely you were think about baby-faced, whining baby, Cristiano Ronaldo... :D (Though I'll concede he is not that annoying lately, and is a damn good player)
He is not an english player, he is from Portugal. I was talking about English players only, else it would be too long to talk about all promising players. :D
Quote from: Krys TOFF on March 13, 2008, 08:46:41 AM
Quote from: Chulk on March 12, 2008, 10:24:14 PM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on March 12, 2008, 12:51:06 PM
And remember that Scholes or Rooney (both at MU) are still 24 and 23 years old, they are still at the beginning of their career and they will still progress.
Actually, Paul Scholes is 35 YO (born 16/Nov/1971).
Oh, right, except that he was born in 1974, so he is 34 years old. :P I thought he was born in 1984, my mistake. Anyway, he doesn't look his age so much.
Quote from: Duplode on March 13, 2008, 02:13:43 AM
Surely you were think about baby-faced, whining baby, Cristiano Ronaldo... :D (Though I'll concede he is not that annoying lately, and is a damn good player)
He is not an english player, he is from Portugal. I was talking about English players only, else it would be too long to talk about all promising players. :D
Except that he was born in November, so he's 33 years old :D
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on March 13, 2008, 12:45:37 PM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on March 13, 2008, 08:46:41 AM
Quote from: Chulk on March 12, 2008, 10:24:14 PM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on March 12, 2008, 12:51:06 PM
And remember that Scholes or Rooney (both at MU) are still 24 and 23 years old, they are still at the beginning of their career and they will still progress.
Actually, Paul Scholes is 35 YO (born 16/Nov/1971).
Oh, right, except that he was born in 1974, so he is 34 years old. :P I thought he was born in 1984, my mistake. Anyway, he doesn't look his age so much.
Quote from: Duplode on March 13, 2008, 02:13:43 AM
Surely you were think about baby-faced, whining baby, Cristiano Ronaldo... :D (Though I'll concede he is not that annoying lately, and is a damn good player)
He is not an english player, he is from Portugal. I was talking about English players only, else it would be too long to talk about all promising players. :D
Except that he was born in November, so he's 33 years old :D
Oh, right, we're not in november yet. :D
Quote from: Krys TOFF on March 13, 2008, 08:46:41 AM
He is not an english player, he is from Portugal. I was talking about English players only, else it would be too long to talk about all promising players. :D
Yep, very smart of me as well to miss the whole point of your post. :D
Champions League is like a half FA Cup. I don't like the fact but have to admit that Premier League is far the strongest championship at the moment. I wish Bayern München would find back to this close elite. Toni and Ribery transfers were the first steps.
Ribery can make any average team go to the top when he is art his best. He is really impressive sometimes. But if he is tired or lightly injured, he loose all his speed/impact and so most of his interest for the team.
Anyway, regarding the current Champions league, I hope to see Arsenal win versus Roma in final.
Babyd David Beckham could play his 100th match with England National Team if Capello decides to let him play against France (hopefully not!)
Friendly matches yesterday, some results :
- incredible Netherlands : Austria lead 3-0 and finally Netherlands won 4-3 in Austria ! Well done.
- weak Poland, beaten 3-0 by USA. Poland won't be dangerous in Euro 2008 it seems.
- unlike Poland, Germany is really a favorite of the Euro 2008 : they won 4-0 in Switzerland.
- minimum victory for France 1-0 versus England, boring match...
- Spain is strong : after beating france some time ago, they beat Italy yesterday 1-0. Maybe Spain will finally obtain a title in Euro 2008 after so many years beeing one of the best teams in friendly matches and never managing to confirm during Euro or World Cup events.
- Greece beat Portugal 2-1 in Portugal, good performance. Greece is not dead yet, Portugal is not so strong as it seems.
- draw 1-1 between Denmark and Czech Republic.
- Hungary beaten at home 1-0 by Slovenia.
- Romania 3-0 Russia.
- Egypt (Africa champion) beaten at home 2-0 by Argentina. There's still a difference of football level between Africa and South America.
...
One of the worst matches played by the Hungarian team ever. Both teams had many injuries, maybe more key players were missing from us. But that's not an excuse for our terrible performance: we had no shot on goal in the first 80 (!!!) minutes, we attacked only at the end of the match. Come back Lothar!
One of the funniest own goals ever: Debrecen - Fehérvár, Hungarian Cup quarterfinals... ;D
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8l6BHKF4tL0
Quote from: CTG on March 28, 2008, 02:32:35 AM
One of the funniest own goals ever: Debrecen - Fehérvár, Hungarian Cup quarterfinals... ;D
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8l6BHKF4tL0
LOL ! Stupid defender, but nice shot. :D
Hihetetlen indeed :)
Quote from: CTG on March 28, 2008, 02:32:35 AM
One of the funniest own goals ever: Debrecen - Fehérvár, Hungarian Cup quarterfinals... ;D
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8l6BHKF4tL0
If it have been an attacker who shoots, it would have been a great goal!
Quote from: CTG on March 28, 2008, 02:32:35 AM
One of the funniest own goals ever: Debrecen - Fehérvár, Hungarian Cup quarterfinals... ;D
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8l6BHKF4tL0
The shock among those players is just
so funny... priceless!
NB II, Group East:
Szolnok-Ferencváros 2-1
Vác-Kazincbarcika 1-1
We are on the way to NB I, neither Kazincbarcika will stop us in the next round. :)
Current standings:
1. Szolnok 47
2. Kecskemét 45
3. Ferencváros 41
4. Vác 32
5. Makó 32
6. Kazincbarcika 30
QuoteWe are on the way to NB I, neither Kazincbarcika will stop us in the next round. Smiley
Newest results from the group:
Kazincbarcika-Szolnok 3-0
Tököl-Kecskemét 0-0
Ferencváros-Orosháza 1-0 (19th minute)
If the FTC match finishes with a home win, a table like this will show up then:
1 Szolnok 47
2 Kecskemét 46
3 Verencváros 44
Looks a bit closer.
Akoss vs Usrin 3-0 :)
For once... Szolnok usually wins, as far as I recall.
Well, these results were only provisional on the site (it seems). Now the results are official:
Kazincbarcika-Szolnok 4-1
Tököl-Kecskemét 0-1
Ferencváros-Orosháza 2-2
Standings:
1 Kecskemét 48
2 Szolnok 47
3 Ferencváros 42
4 Makó 35
5 Kazincbarcika 33
6 Vác 32
Former Kazincbarcika-Szolnok results:
(since 1996, when Szolnok, for the first time, promoted to second division)
Season 1996/97 NB II East Szolnok-Kazincbarcika 3-0 Kazincbarcika-Szolnok 0-0 end of season: Szolnok 6th Kazincbarcika 11th
Season 2005/06 NB II East Szolnok-Kazincbarcika 3-0 Kazincbarcika-Szolnok 1-0 end of season: Szolnok 2nd Kazincbarcika 8th
Season 2006/07 NB II East Kazincbarcika-Szolnok 2-2 Szolnok-Kazincbarcika 2-0 end of season: Szolnok 4th Kazincbarcika 11th
Season 2007/08 NB II East Szolnok-Kazincbarcika 1-0 Kazincbarcika-Szolnok 4-1 currently: Szolnok 2nd Kazincbarcika 5th
Yesterday result in 5th division:
Felpéc - Bácsa FC 3-2
There's no guest sector in Felpéc... :(
As you know, AGF is still sucking in the SAS League. Fortunately, two other teams are kind enough to suck more than AGF. Here are the standings:
1 AaB 23 15 4 4 45-30 49
2 FC København 23 12 7 4 32-18 43
3 FC Midtjylland 23 12 5 6 33-25 41
4 OB 23 9 11 3 35-17 38
5 Esbjerg fB 23 10 4 9 44-36 34
6 AC Horsens 23 9 7 7 30-30 34
7 FC Nordsjælland 23 8 8 7 33-31 32
8 Randers FC 23 8 6 9 27-21 30
9 Brøndby IF 23 8 6 9 31-31 30
10 AGF 22 5 5 12 20-31 20
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11 Viborg 22 4 2 16 19-48 14
12 Lyngby 23 2 5 16 21-52 11
So, this evening there's a very important match: AGF - Viborg. If we win, we will be 9 points ahead. If we lose, only 3 points ahead. I don't have anyone to go see it with :(
Go AGF, we are cheering for them - especially me, because I really hate Viborg, since their female handball team made some dirty matches versus Györi ETO. ;)
AGF - Viborg 0-0
A disappointing result, but not so disastrous, because it means we retain a 6-point lead. And we have no more matches against Viborg.
But this also means that we haven't scored a SINGLE GOAL this spring, during 5 matches (0-0,0-0,0-2,0-1,0-0)
Still leading though Brazil came 10 points closer from last update.
First 10 and Stunts pipsqueaks countries (In BOLD/ITALICS):
1. Argentina 1.519 puntos
2. Brasil 1.509
3. Italia 1.391
4. España 1.319
5. Alemania 1.261
6. República Checa 1.234
7. Francia 1.205
8. Grecia 1.187
9. Portugal 1.125
10. Holanda 1.124
...
13. Croacia 1.041
...
33. Denmark 762
...
56. Hungary 546
That list never seems to reflect the true strength of the teams though. The top 5 may be the true top 5, but already with Czech Republic at 6th place, something's wrong. Czech Republic will never have the lower odds in matches vs France or Holland, nor would matches like Greece - England have lower odds for Greece.
Argentina's 21 players for playing against Catalunya on 24-05-08.
GK: Oscar Ustari - Nicolás Navarro - Sergio Romero
DF: Pablo Zabaleta - Federico Fazio - Cristian Ansaldi - Jonathan Maidana - Gabriel Paletta.
MF: Fernando Gago - Lucas Biglia - Ever Banega - José Sosa - Diego Valeri - Damián Escudero - Augusto Fernández.
FW: Lionel Messi - Gonzalo Higuaín - Lautaro Acosta - Sergio Agüero - Ezequiel Lavezzi - Angel Di María.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on April 09, 2008, 07:34:11 PM
Czech Republic will never have the lower odds in matches vs France or Holland, nor would matches like Greece - England have lower odds for Greece.
You have a good point there, but remeber this ranking is not a Head-to-Head comparison between teams, it's about their latest results against any team. Besides, remember Czech Republic kick Germany's ass in Euro Qualy and Greece will play Euro 2012 while England won't...
From now I'm not following the matches of UEFA Champions League. Why? There was only one national champion from the last 8 teams, 4 of them from England. Now see the quarterfinal results and the possible finals: Chelsea/Liverpool vs Barcelona/Manchester Utd. That's what real football fanats never want to see: 4 "bought" team with hundreds of million dollars playing versus eachother, without really good home players (except maybe Rooney in MU), no surprise team (like Porto was few years ago). This is disgusting!
I think Chelsea and Manchester will play the final ---> 1-1 after 90 minutes, MU wins in extra time with C. Ronaldo's goal (how I hate that arrogant gay!).
Quote from: CTG on April 10, 2008, 11:20:13 AM
From now I'm not following the matches of UEFA Champions League. Why? There was only one national champion from the last 8 teams, 4 of them from England. Now see the quarterfinal results and the possible finals: Chelsea/Liverpool vs Barcelona/Manchester Utd. That's what real football fanats never want to see: 4 "bought" team with hundreds of million dollars playing versus eachother, without really good home players (except maybe Rooney in MU), no surprise team (like Porto was few years ago). This is disgusting!
I think Chelsea and Manchester will play the final ---> 1-1 after 90 minutes, MU wins in extra time with C. Ronaldo's goal (how I hate that arrogant gay!).
I had already said that to myself before the quarter finals, in the last weeks, I was rather focusing on the UEFA Cup. English football doesn't deserve such strong clubs, their national team was too weak to make the ECH qualifications, I saw them on tv struggling against the Swiss on a friendly... this is a very sad story. I hate rich English teams as much as I would cheer for even a German team which are playing against them.
Quote from: CTGChelsea/Liverpool vs Barcelona/Manchester Utd
I wanted to see AS Roma vs Arsenal and it will be Chelsea vs Liverpool... :(
Now, I hope to see Barcelona win (so they will loose as each time I have a favorite they loose ;D).
United key players
van der Sar/NED
G. Neville/ENG
Hargraeves/ENG
R. Ferdinand/ENG
C. Ronaldo/POR
Tévez/ARG
Rooney/ENG
Giggs/WAL
Carrick/ENG
Scholes/ENG
O'Shea/IRL
Silvestre/FRA
Saha/FRA
Park/KOR
Liverpool key players
Torres/ESP
Voronin/UKR
Hyypiae/FIN
Finnan/IRL
Gerrard/ENG
Riise/NOR
Xabi Alonso/ESP
Kuyt/NED
Babel/NED
Mascherano/ARG
Carragher/ENG
Crouch/ENG
Skrtel/SVK
Chelsea
Cech/CZE
A. Cole/ENG
Makélélé/FRA
Essien/GHA
R. Carvalho/POR
Shevchenko/UKR
Lampard/ENG
Drogba/CIV
Ballack/GER
Pizzaro/PER
Terry/ENG
Anelka/FRA
Malouda/FRA
Wright-Phillips/ENG
Arsenal
Lehmann/GER
Diaby/FRA
Fábregas/ESP
K. Touré/CIV
Senderos/SUI
Da Silva/CRO
Gallas/FRA
van Persie/NED
Hleb/BLR
Flamini/FRA
Gilberto Silva/BRA
Clichy/FRA
Adebayor/TOG
Walcott/ENG
No comment... Manchester squad is okay, it's half English, but the others...
But this is club football, not national teams...
Quote from: Akoss Poo
No comment... Manchester squad is okay, it's half English, but the others...
For these 4 teams, here is the overall nationalities repartition :
ENG 14
FRA 9
NED 4
ESP 3
POR 2
ARG 2
IRL 2
UKR 2
CIV 2
GER 2
WAL 1
KOR 1
FIN 1
NOR 1
SVK 1
CZE 1
GHA 1
PER 1
SUI 1
CRO 1
BLR 1
BRA 1
TOG 1
Apart from nationalities, I prefer watching Arsenal football than Chelsea football.
AS Roma and Arsenal (both eleminated sadly) have the most interesting football these days : movements, attacks, technical, .... Barcelona used to be that kind of team too but they decline this year. They were lucky to get qualified, it will be very hard for them versus MU if they don't find back their football style.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on April 10, 2008, 12:33:43 PM
But this is club football, not national teams...
Main goal of clubs should be to find young local talents, give them chance to improve. Of course there is no problem with buying star players - in a moderate way. Long time ago there was a rule about maximum 3 foreigner players in a team. Now... rule changed and teams found the possibilities for bypassing it.
Quote from: Krys TOFF on April 10, 2008, 02:23:59 PMAS Roma and Arsenal (both eleminated sadly) have the most interesting football these days : movements, attacks, technical, .... Barcelona used to be that kind of team too but they decline this year. They were lucky to get qualified, it will be very hard for them versus MU if they don't find back their football style.
I also like Roma's football very much, despite I'm a Juve fan. It's a pity that they are eliminated now...
Quote from: Krys TOFF on April 10, 2008, 02:23:59 PM
Barcelona [...] were lucky to get qualified, it will be very hard for them versus MU if they don't find back their football style.
It depends if Messi can or cannot play. Remember he is Argentinian and 3 of MU defensive players (Carrick, Neville and Ferdinand) are English! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
PS: Hargreaves is Canadian (born 20 January 1981 in Calgary, Alberta, Canada)
He plays for the english national team though, so he must have citizenship.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on April 10, 2008, 04:58:39 PM
He plays for the english national team though, so he must have citizenship.
He does, as many other players on many other National Teams (Trezeguet in France, Camoranesi in Italy, Zidane in France, Kuranyi in Germany, Odonkor in Germany, Hargreaves in England, Da Silva in Croatia, Podolski in Germany...)
Quote from: Chulk on April 10, 2008, 08:21:59 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on April 10, 2008, 04:58:39 PM
He plays for the english national team though, so he must have citizenship.
He does, as many other players on many other National Teams (Trezeguet in France, Camoranesi in Italy, Zidane in France, Kuranyi in Germany, Odonkor in Germany, Hargreaves in England, Da Silva in Croatia, Podolski in Germany...)
Pisont in Hungary... ;D ;D ;D
Haha, I left the live update of Getafe - Bayern München at 112 minutes, 3-1, Bayern München victory at odds 8.00
Then I see the news 10 minutes later and Bayern won... That's a bit sad, but seems well deserved.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on April 10, 2008, 11:23:29 PM
Haha, I left the live update of Getafe - Bayern München at 112 minutes, 3-1, Bayern München victory at odds 8.00
Then I see the news 10 minutes later and Bayern won... That's a bit sad, but seems well deserved.
I saw the match, and I saw some parts of the match in München, too. Getafe was better at home than Bayern even with ten man, too. The Bayern equalizer in the 89th minute came from nothing. Getafe could have decided the match earlier, no matter they were playing with 10 man since the 6th minute. The German champion was struggling in the extra time as well, trailing 1-3 by two nice goals from the Spaniards. Then, with a help of the disconcentrated/tired Abbondanzieri (who may thought that they had already won the series... which is the biggest mistake against a German team -> Abbondanzieri should have remembered the 2006 WCH QF GER-ARG)m and with a help of a strange rule (away goals count in extra time, too - it's easier to score in 120 minutes than in 90, and players are more tired), Bayern advanced to the next round extremely luckily, and undeservedly in my opinion. Against a mediocre Primera Division team, Bayern should have won 3-0 or 4-0, since they were playing the whole match in a man advantage. I'm reading metnet.hu's sports forum now, and people are saying the same: they say Getafe should have deserved reaching the semis. It seems the Spanish first division is still the strongest, in England there are still only four clubs (which teams reach Champions' League positions easily with minimum energy input, having more power and concentration - and money - than Serie A or Primera Divison teams).
Round 22/30
Makó-Ferencváros 2-2
Orosháza-Kazincbarcika 2-2
Szolnok-Vecsés 4-0
Kecskemét-Jászberény 2-0
1 Kecskemét 51
2 Szolnok 50
3 Ferencváros 43
4 Makó 36
5 Kazincbarcika 34
6 Vác 33
I found a funny footballist name in English Championship's (second division after Premier League) Hull City squad: check the picture I attached here :) The guy was scored Hull City's third goal in the 82nd minute, but he got substituted then.
DAMN IT!!! Futsal world cup's last qualification:
Ukraine - Hungary 3-1
Hungary - Ukraine 4-3 (4-1 two minutes before the end of the match...)
That's unlucky :(
I want to play indoor football...
I also want to play and I would like to get a red card for a serious and brutal fault versus Akoss Poo. ;D
Our ice hockey team took revenge on the HUN-UKR futsal match!!! ;D
"Fantastic" news from Hungarian Football Association (MLSZ), we have a new coach/manager for the national eleven: Erwin Koeman (NED). Sounds familiar? Yes, he's the brother of Ronald Koeman (just fired from Valencia). As a player he was quite good: Euro champion (1988), played 31 times in Dutch national team. Later he became a team manager: one year at RKC Waalwijk (2004-2005), two years at Feyenoord (2005-2007). He was fired from the second one because he made Feyenoord a middle-class team (usually they are podiumers in Dutch Eredivisie). One year silence and suddenly he became the manager of the Hungarian team, without any successes in his former manager career.
Strange. Mattheus was sent away because of the same reason: no experience as a manager (while he had quite acceptable results with the team). I think Lothar Mattheus is ways better coach than Koeman. On the other hand, Lothar is really a big name: he could bring many sponsors to the national team, commended some players for clubs in better leagues and his name was also enough to organize quality friendly matches versus Brasil, Argentina, France, Germany, Mexico (or the gala match versus Real Madrid). He also built up a relatively good squad, having sharp matches with the better European teams like Sweden or Greece. But his "fault" was that the former leaders of the MLSZ employed him and the new boss (f*ck your bloody mother, Kisteleki) fired him as soon as he could. Then came two very poor years with Hungarian coaches (maybe the darkest period of the national team ever, losing versus Malta, Cyprus, Moldova, finishing 6th from 7 in the easiest EURO 2008 qualification group) and now comes a nameless manager from Netherlands (even if he was a great player in the 80's, 90's)...
99 percent that we will see Manchester United and Chelsea in the UEFA Champions League final. So it's better to find a more enjoyable program for the final's night...
West Bromwich Albion is back to Premier League with Zoltán Gera, the best Hungarian player of the last few years. ;)
Other hot news: Ferencváros lost the chance to step up to the first class, they are 11 points behind Kecskemét 4 rounds before the end of the championship.
New update (7-May-2008) on FIFA World Ranking (Football, of course!)
No changes in Top10. Denmark remain the same, Hungary lost yet another place.
1 Argentina 1520
2 Brazil 1518
3 Italy 1396
4 Spain 1323
5 Germany 1264
6 Czech Rep 1244
7 France 1205
8 Greece 1196
9 Portugal 1131
10 Netherlands 1123
...
33 Denmark 761
...
57 Hungary 546
33rd place is a disgrace :) only 16 years ago we were European champions... Only 10 years ago we placed 5th-8th at the World Championship. Only 6 years ago we placed 9th-16th at the World Championship. But there's not much hope ahead... The younger players aren't good enough to be a top team.
Poll standigs at Nemzeti Sport Online:
Which team is going to win EURO2008?
4672 - Italy
3390 - Spain
3210 - Germany
3188 - Romania (WTF, cheater Romanian internet users)
2182 - Portugal
1944 - France
1620 - Netherlands
731 - Croatia
484 - Czech Republic
331 - Austria (way too much)
235 - Greece
207 - Sweden (too few I think)
179 - Russia
165 - Poland
125 - Turkey (I expected a lot more)
123 - Switzerland
I believe Austria is going to take an extreme beating in these championships... They were already way too bad to be in them, and now they haven't played any important games for years. Switzerland has a chance to get in the quarter-finals, but not further than that I think. Romania has a completely impossible group! No quarter final for them.
Germany/Italy/Portugal/France... If the final winner is different, I will be really surprised. Maybe Netherlands and Spain, but the first is always full of conflicts on the field (team spirit is almost zero), while the latter one could never play their best at the important events.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on May 14, 2008, 10:39:39 PM
Romania has a completely impossible group! No quarter final for them.
Sure : Romania, Netherlands, Italy, France. If they manage to be 1st of the group, then we will be able to say that they may be potential winners of this Euro. But as they will end last of the group... ;D
Italy is favourite I think - good players who also constitute a good team. France, Spain (let's hope this time they can appear to be a real threat to other teams) and maybe Germany are good contenders for a medal. Portugal, Holland, Greece can also fight for a medal with a fair chance. Croatia, Czech Republic, Sweden, and as they are the home nation, maybe Switzerland are ready to cause a surprise. Other teams, especially Austria, are outsiders.
I'll give a favourite, and alternative and a surprise champion:
My favourite is Italy: Last World Cup winner, good players and probably the best as a team (A couple of substitutions don't change the performance much.
My 2nd option is Germany: They have a good team, they just lack that self-confidence every great German team had in history.
My surprise champion is Netherlands: Many talented players in top teams (Sneijder, Robben, Van Persie, Heitinga), a reliable GK (Van der Sar) and a killing CF (Huntelaar) can beat any of the top teams.
Faszszopó Újpest - Györi ETO FC 1-3 (1-1) :P ;D
Two rounds before the end of the championhip:
1 MTK Budapest 60 pts (still "playing" with Sopron - the automatical 3-0)
2 Debrecen 60 pts
3 Újpest 54 pts
4 Györi ETO FC 52 pts
5 Fehérvár FC 48 pts
...
Remaining matches for top5 teams:
29th round
ETO - Vasas (10th): even if Vasas is so down on the table, they usually win versus ETO...
1: 30%, X: 35%, 2: 35%
REAC (12th) - MTK: REAC has really good offense and terrible defense, my pessimistic bet is a draw
1: 15%, X: 45%, 2: 40%
Fehérvár - Siófok (14th): will be a boring match with easy victory for Fehérvár
1: 45%, X: 35%, 2: 20%
Paks (11th) - Debrecen: there's a big pressure on the 3-times champion if they want to keep the title while Paks is in good shape at the moment
1: 20%, X: 30%, 2: 50%
Újpest - DVTK (14th): go Diósgyör!!! ;D I'm afraid dicksucker purple monkeys are going to win (with a last minute penalty or lucky goal, as usual)... >:(
1: 60%, X: 30%, 2: 10%
30th round
Debrecen - Újpest: prestige match for both teams, unfortunately I feel a bit better chance for Újpest
1: 30%, X: 35%, 2: 35%
ZTE (7th) - Fehérvár: might be a good last round battle for the two strong middle class team
1: 30%, X: 40%, 2: 30%
DVTK (13th) - ETO: ETO has a lot more chance to win by the paper (usually several goals in their game) but this time it will be very complicated
1: 25%, X: 40%, 2: 35%
"MTK - Sopron" (3-0): that's the only sure result
1: 100%...
If MTK is able to win versus REAC in the next round and Debrecen can't make at least +6 goals compared to MTK (which is quite unlikely), they are already champions. In a very good case ETO can catch podium and the right to play in UEFA Cup qualifiers (champion goes to Champions League Qualifications, the Cup winner and the silver medalist - or the second best "non-Cup winner" of the championship goes to UEFA Cup). All the things we need:
- overtaking Újpest in the championship (3rd place)
- MTK has to be the champion
- Debrecen has to win the Hungarian Cup versus Budapest Honvéd
DVTK, MTK and Debrecen are the keys of our success or failure... and of course our team itself.
I guess I was wrong wih the UEFA Cup qualification system... ETO can't be there. :(
Chelsea MU is going to win... ;D
Typical mistake at the penalties from an overstarred arrogant gay asshole, called C. Ronaldo. But still I hate MU a bit less than Chelsea.
Aaargh... >:( Copa Libertadores Quarterfinals, Fluminense v. São Paulo, away leg for us (São Paulo). With 20 minutes to go on the 2nd half Adriano scored the equalizer that would pull us through, as the home leg was 1-0. Then Fluminense reacts immediately and makes 2-1, but that was sort of fine as we would still win on away goals and we were solid enough not to allow Fluminense to make really strong pressure. But no, bloody right sideback Joilson (substituted in at halftime, BTW) makes his most significant contribution to the team in his six month spell by getting two freakin' yellow cards in five minutes and thus screwing up the balance of play and eventually leading to Fluminense's third goal at stoppage time... Oh, screw it! It's way too alike last year when we lost to another Brazilian team (Grêmio) in all too similar circumstances. :'( Now the road seems open - yet again - to Boca, as I do not believe Fluminense (probably the only other remaining club really worth of attention) will stand up to them when the critical hour comes. And that trashing of Atlas sounded powerful...
At least Chelsea eventually lost to MU, so as to not make today's results completely negative...
Quote from: CTG on May 21, 2008, 10:36:38 PM
Chelsea MU is going to win... ;D
MU could have killed the match at 1st half. They missed easy opportunities and could have led 3-0. But they let Chelsea come back into the match and it was finally 1-1 at the end of 1st half.
Then 2nd half was mainly Chelsea domination, 2 shots on the goal bars
(not sure of the english name) and finally no new goal. During extended time, the players were obviously tired and nervous, Drogba got a stupid red card and nothing changed.
Then it was penalty lottery. I don't like when titles (world cup, champions league, ...) are won after penalty sessions, I would prefer the match to be re-played. I never though fair such penalty sessions. Chelsea would have won as Ronaldo got his shot stopped by Chelsea's goalkeeper, but then Chelsea captain shot on the goal bar because of the slippery terrain. It's so based on luck/unluck those penalty sessions... ::)
English, be proud of your shameful football... is it worthy for them to buy world class players in 4 clubs to win everything in Europe? 5-10 years ago they wasn't the strongest in the Champions' League (MU won the trophy with big luck in 1999, in the SF and in the final game, too), but at least they had a good national team. Well, English, be happy with your CL trophy, and sit and watch Euro 2008 without you. I won't miss the English squad.
Krys: the one above is the bar and the ones on the sides are the posts.
I didn't really like Manchester United or Chelsea, so didn't follow the match. However, I felt a bit happy with the MU win, so I must have some sympathy left for them.
Akoss: yes, it's a money sport. It's club football, the clubs are corporations, it's just the way it is... Watch national teams for the national football :)
No comment... ;D
(http://www.origo.hu/i/0805/20080523terry.jpg)
Hungarian Championship, 29th round:
Paks - Debrecen 2-2
Györi ETO - Vasas 2-1
Nyíregyháza - Budapest Honvéd 3-0
Tatabánya - Kaposvár 2-6
Fehérvár - Siófok 1-0
Újpest - Diósgyör 2-2
REAC - MTK Budapest 0-3
Sopron - ZTE 0-3
One round before the end of the championship:
1 MTK Budapest 63 pts (+41) - already champions
2 Debrecen 61 pts (+38)
3 Györi ETO 55 pts (+27)
4 Újpest 55 pts (+20)
5 Fehérvár 51 pts (+14)
6 Kaposvár 48 pts (+7)
7 ZTE 46 pts (+18)
8 Budapest Honvéd 40 pts (+6) - incredibly deep crisis in the spring, they were leading the championship after 14th round
9 Nyíregyháza 40 pts (-1)
10 Vasas 38 pts (-6)
11 Paks 36 pts (0)
12 REAC 30 pts (-12)
13 Diósgyör 28 pts (-18)
14 Siófok 26 pts (-13)
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15 Tatabánya 10 pts (-56)
16 Sopron 0 pts (0)
Qualified from second class: Haladás, Kecskemét
Possible change: rumours say Ferencváros (suffering in second class for two years) is going to buy the license from REAC to start in first class.
International cups:
MTK is already the champion ---> UEFA Champions League qualifications, 2nd round
Debrecen is the silver medalist and possible cup winner ---> UEFA Cup qualifications, 1st round
Honvéd is cup finalist ---> UEFA Cup qualifications, 1st round (even if they lose versus Debrecen in the cup final)
Fehérvár is the winner of "League Cup" ---> they can start in UEFA Intertoto Cup but they cancelled it (due to the high cost of the trip to the opponent in Kazahstan) - one of the 3rd-6th place teams can take their place
Edit: few years ago ETO played two good matches versus Racing Santander (ESP) in Intertoto Cup. Let's hope we can start there again, beating the kazah opponent and play versus better teams. Who knows, maybe we can also enter UEFA Cup qualifications... Sweet dreams! :D
About MU win vs. Chelsea, Carlos Tevez has won (almost) every important title a player can win...
With Boca Juniors he won 4 championships: Apertura 2003, Libertadores 2003, Intercontinental 2003 & Sudamericana 2004.
With Corinthians he won Brasileirao.
With MU he won Premier League and UEFA Champions league.
And he also won the golden medal in Athens 2004 and was the top scorer there.
If he goes to Spain as rumors say, maybe he can add another trophy...
Quote from: Chulk on May 26, 2008, 10:00:09 PM
About MU win vs. Chelsea, Carlos Tevez has won (almost) every important title a player can win...
The most important is still missing... maybe in 2010, South Africa... ;)
Yes, I know. But many great players never won a World cup. For a start, none of the great Dutch player did, neither did Laudrup...
Quote from: Chulk on May 26, 2008, 10:04:16 PM
Yes, I know. But many great players never won a World cup. For a start, none of the great Dutch player did, neither did Laudrup...
Or any players of the Hungarian "Golden Team" in the 50's. :(
Hungary - Greece 3-2 (0-1), we could beat the actual Euro and world champion (last summer HUN-ITA 3-1) in the last one year - of course only friendly matches. I think this one is the better result: we played with Italy when they came back from holidays while Greece is preparing for a big tournament at the moment (and they are a very defensive team, maybe more defensive than Italy). Nice debut for Erwin Koeman anyway...
Hungarian Under-19 team qualified themselves last week for the European Championships. Only 8 teams participating there in the Czech Republic, so Hungary is in the top8 teams of Europe in this age group. Remember, this team was participating in the Under-17 ECH, too, two years ago, so this age group, lead by Krisztián Németh (who scored the winning goal against Portugal on the decisive ECH qualifier), can be a good future base of our senior national team.
Last round in NB II East:
Cegléd-Kazincbarcika 2-2 (0-1)
0-2 till the 86th minute, not for the first time this season. Disappointing 7th place overall (there was a small group in points between 5th and 8th place where Kazincbarcika belonged to), the squad is better in many people's opinion. Final table after Sunday's matches.
Oh, Hungary-Croatia 1-1 in the 44th minute! Hilarious own goal by Nico Kovac! :D But Moilanen, Tokody and Durica are still better. :D :D :D
Former Debrecen players helped Györ to win in Miskolc, they scored all three goals. Former Debrecen player helped Debrecen to win against Újpest, to help Györ clinching bronze medal position (and UEFA Cup berth probably), by getting sent off midway through the second half. It seems all players who ever played in Debrecen wanted Újpest not to get the bronze and the UEFA Cup place. :)
Debrecen-Újpest 3-1
Diósgyöri VTK-Györi ETO 3-1
DICKSUCKER ÚJPEST!
1 MTK - champions' league qualifying
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2 Debrecen - UEFA cup qualifying
3 Györ - UEFA cup qualifying probably
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4 Újpest - nothing
NB II East:
1 Kecskemét 75 pts - promoted
2 Szolnok 63
3 Ferencváros 62
4 Makó 50
5 Vác 45
6 Vecsés 45
7 Kazincbarcika 44
...
14 Orosháza 29 - relegated
15 Tuzsér 23 - relegated
16 Mezökövesd 19 - relegated
http://www.nb1.hu/nb2/2007-2008/index.php
Update from Denmark! AGF survived another year in the best league, claiming the infamous 10th place, which we now almost own. Six 10th places in 10 years! But nobody is going to give us a price for that. AaB (Aalborg) surprisingly won the championship after a disappointing performance from FC København in the spring:
1. AaB (champions league qual.)
2. FC Midtjylland (UEFA qual.)
3. FC København (UEFA qual.)
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4. OB (Toto Cup)
5. AC Horsens
6. Randers
7. Esbjerg
8. Brøndby
9. FC Nordsjælland
10. AGF
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11. Viborg
12. Lyngby
In the 2nd league, Vejle is on their way to a spectacular points record! Having scored 75 points in 28 matches. Two matches left, hopefully they will get 81 points of 90.
1. Vejle 28 24 3 1 75
Congrats to AGF for staying in first class, better season next time! ;)
And yes, finally!!! Györi ETO can start in UEFA Cup qualifiers; first time since I'm supporting this team (about 1990/91) - we were already very close twice in the late 90's! ;D
Probably we will fall versus a noname eastern team in the first round but still... :D
I don't like french football players (except Zidane), but Ribéry is funny... :D
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kQ-mvRpLzT0&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4tV2QFy4W_M
Spain-Peru, heading goal - from 22 meters distance... ;) (action from 1:45)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vbcHZ1qMsPI
Quote from: CTG on June 03, 2008, 07:30:52 AM
I don't like french football players (except Zidane), but Ribéry is funny... :D
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kQ-mvRpLzT0&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4tV2QFy4W_M
LOL! Hidden camera is great!
Euro 2008 Tipping, my predictions for the first day:
Switzerland-Czech Republic 1-2
Portugal-Turkey 1-1
Mine is:
Switzerland - Czech Republic 0-1
Portugal - Turkey 3-1
Quote from: CTG on June 07, 2008, 04:35:37 PM
Switzerland - Czech Republic 0-1
Good. :D But Czechs were a lot weaker than I expected.
I will give 1 point for finding out the outcome of the match (1X2), and 2 points for the correct tips.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 07, 2008, 09:42:18 PM
I will give 1 point for finding out the outcome of the match (1X2), and 2 points for the correct tips.
What about finding out the difference? :D
Germany - Poland 1 - 0
Austria - Croatia 0 - 4
Those are tomorrow's games, right? :)
Quote from: CTG on June 07, 2008, 10:45:33 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 07, 2008, 09:42:18 PM
I will give 1 point for finding out the outcome of the match (1X2), and 2 points for the correct tips.
What about finding out the difference? :D
That would mean when you guessed right for a draw, you automatically found out the goal difference, and I feel that would be a bit undeserved to give a bonus point for that, too. So original system stays.
Germany-Poland 3-0
Austria-Croatia 1-2
Germany - Poland 3-1
Austria - Croatia 0-2
I'll be on the Internet on Tuesday next time.
Tips until then:
Romania-France 1-3
Netherlands-Italy 0-2
Spain-Russia 2-1
Greece-Sweden 2-1
Okay let's tip for these four matches too:
gipsyland - France 1-2
Netherlands - Italy 1-1
Spain - Russia 2-1
Greece - Sweden 0-1
3 matches, 4 goals so far... Not so promising. Austria vs Croatia wasn't really a good match, the latter one couldn't make a strong impression on me. Let's hope they get better soon. On the other hand: GO POLAND!!!
Germany played well... Too bad, they seem to be really-really strong. Tomorrow we can see how good the other "aces" (Italy, France, Netherlands) are.
ROM-FRA 0-0, I'm supporting Italy, so I would like to see this match finishing this way (X). Germany really played well, though the first goal was offside, the second was lucky. But the other half of the tree is stronger.
ROM-FRA 0-0 at the end, forgettable. Go Netherlands and Italy!!! :D
Forgot to predict Romania - France
Holland - Italy also 0 - 0
Spain - Russia 1 - 1
Sweden - Greece 3 - 1
van Nistelrooy, the only Dutch player I hate... :-\
Italy was really unlucky last evening. But Netherlands absolutely deserved the 3 points - they played very well in the first half and made dangerous contra-attacks in the second period. Italy played without fantasy, they missed even the biggest chances to score - Toni was out of shape. And their biggest problem: the world famous Italian defence made childish mistakes, injury of Cannavaro seems to have a dangerous effect on their play at the back.
Del Piero must play more, his performance was dashing in spite of the final result.
Boring match for France, interesting match for Nederlands.
1st Nederlands goal is not valid and it changed the match I think : after it Italy had to attack and let some free space in its defence, allowing the 2 other goals.
On the other hand, France had a good start (during 10 minutes only) and Romanian players were quite afraid after it so they spent almost all the match with many players in defence. This is the kind of match where a guy like Trezeguet would have been interesting, but he was not chosen for the Euro... Viera not playing is also why France had so many difficulties in attack, he is a midfield dedicated to attack, unlike Toulalan who is more defensive.
First Dutch goal was really lucky, Panucci lied outside the playing field, and thus van Nistelrooij's goal wasn't offside (I guess the ref didn't know this rule, and would have given the goal even if Panucci wasn't lying outside). Even van Nistelrooij didn't know all about this rule, he didn't dare to cheer, and staired the linesman constantly checking when he would wave offside. First goal was important in this match, because the other team was forced to attack for the equalizing goal, and without Cannavaro, it turned out to be Italy's destiny, the Dutch scored two counterattack-goals. But they were lucky to survive at 0-2, Italians played really well against the Dutch who were defending with 11 men inside their own area. Del Piero and Grosso should have been included in the starting lineup, they were dangerous. The Swedish referee judged the semi-diving falls differently on the different sides: they helped the Dutch with this very much. Both teams were impressive in their attacking play (Italy even against the passive Dutch wall), if Italy can solve their defensive problems, they may win their following two matches against Romania and France to push through.
This is right : Del Piero's entrance gave a real bonus to Itlay.
CZE-POR 0-2
SUI-TUR 1-0
CRO-GER 2-3
AUT-POL 1-1
ITA-ROM 2-1
NED-FRA 0-0
SWE-ESP 0-1
GRE-RUS 2-1
CZE-POR 1-0
SUI-TUR 2-2
CRO-GER 0-2
AUT-POL 1-1
ITA-ROM 1-0
NED-FRA 2-1
SWE-ESP 0-2
GRE-RUS 0-1
About Spain - Russia: spanish team with David Villa was just awesome, the good-mediorce Russian team could do nothing against them. Having an eye on their unlucky past I don't say they have the biggest chance for the final success - but this team is VERY GOOD.
Sweden - Greece: boring first half, lucky short period for Sweden (they were significantly better than the winners of Euro2004). Ibrahimovic knows how to score really big goals (I remember his "fuckin' goal" /quote from Lothar Mattheus/ after the 90th minute versus Hungary few years ago - we lost that match because of that single goal...).
My new tips
CZE-POR 1-3
SUI-TUR 1-1
CRO-GER 1-2
AUT-POL 0-1
ITA-ROM 2-1
NED-FRA 1-1
SWE-ESP 1-2
GRE-RUS 1-1
I wonder if Euro2008 is also broadcasted in South America or not. Because there are no comments from Chulk and Duplode, although they used to have posts about football earlier.
Quote from: CTG on June 11, 2008, 12:21:34 PM
I wonder if Euro2008 is also broadcasted in South America or not. Because there are no comments from Chulk and Duplode, although they used to have posts about football earlier.
All games are being broadcast on "open" TV channels here in Brazil, but unfortunately matches are being held in very inconvenient hours for me to watch them (all through afternoon, when I'm usually at University), so I don't feel very motivated to comment. But anyway most results up to now were pretty likeable (bar Poland losing to Germany, but that would be unavoidable I guess) - I would like to see Netherlands or Spain winning something at last, let's see how will they stand to, say, Germany...
Quote from: DuplodeI would like to see Netherlands or Spain winning something at last
These 2 teams already won once the Euro champ : 1964 for spain (in Spain) and 1988 for Netherlands (in Western Germany). ;)
Quote from: Krys TOFF on June 11, 2008, 06:24:07 PM
These 2 teams already won once the Euro champ : 1964 for spain (in Spain) and 1988 for Netherlands (in Western Germany). ;)
...but not on my lifetime - actually, just barely for Netherlands in '88, but still... :D
Portugal is damned good! Today they showed up a brilliant performance with (dirty) C. Ronaldo and Deco. But they have serious problems at the back, their keeper is not as good as he was 4 years ago. Czechs played better than last time but this won't be enough versus Switzerland. On the other hand UEFA will "keep" one of the organizers to the knockout phase, simply because of financial advantages.
SUI-TUR in half time: irrealistic playground, lucky goal for the enthusiastic helvets. I guess both team will suffer from getting cold later because of this heavy raining.
I thought both Portugal and CR played really well actually, I'm sure CR will have no problem beating Switzerland to the quarter finals. And a goal from Libor Sionko, who couldn't score when I saw FC København and AGF draw 1-1 in April :)
Quarter finals will be:
Germany vs Czech Republic
Portugal vs Croatia
Netherlands vs Russia
Spain vs France
Semis:
Germany vs Portugal
Russia vs Spain
I'll continue a bit later :)
SUI-TUR: nice battle in the pool from two mediorce teams. Poor SUI, as for me they were slightly better. Draw would be more realistic. (And skid off Osmans, you killed my bet at iwiw Euro2008 game >:()
Finally we had several goals in the last two days (first day: 3, second: 3, third: 3, yesterday: 7, today: 7), promising tendency. ;)
ESPN broadcasts every match in Argentina. But I'm really busy lately and I'm not even logging in around here often. About Netherlands, I'm not surprised they kicked Italy's ass. Cannavaro's injury was the key to unluck Italy's famous cattenaccio. About Germany, I wasn't surprised either, although I don't really like them for having a lot of nationalized players in their (un)National Team.
My tips for tomorrow matches:
CRO 1 - 3 GER
AUT 0 - 1 POL
And for friday in case I can't loggin tomorrow:
ITA 2 - 1 ROU
NED 2 - 1 FRA
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on June 11, 2008, 10:20:31 PM
I thought both Portugal and CR played really well actually, I'm sure CR will have no problem beating Switzerland to the quarter finals. And a goal from Libor Sionko, who couldn't score when I saw FC København and AGF draw 1-1 in April :)
Quarter finals will be:
Germany vs Czech Republic
Portugal vs Croatia
Netherlands vs Russia
Spain vs France
Semis:
Germany vs Portugal
Russia vs Spain
I'll continue a bit later :)
These are NOT tips/bets, but quarter finals will be:
Portugal-Croatia
Germany-Czech Republic
Holland-Sweden
Spain-Italy
Semi finals:
Portugal-Germany
Holland-Italy
Final:
Germany-Italy
Well, these are my guesses
Turkey found their form yesterday. They are still missing Hakan Sükür, Halil Altintop and Bastürk, thanks to Fatih Terim, so I think they will lose against the Czechs.
I really hope Croatia will win against Germany, but they won't.
Italy sucked on their first match, but France and Romania were even much worse, so they will be good for qualification. And Italy finds its form always towards the end of the tournament.
One surprise might happen in the quarter finals: Croatia or Sweden are good for a huge upset on their day.
Croatia - Germany 1 - 0 at half time... Could be a surprise before half time :) If Germany blows it vs Austria and Austria also wins against Poland, it will be Austria and Croatia in the quarter finals!
But that will not happen. The current game will either end 1-1 or 1-2, Austria and Poland will probably draw, and Germany will most definitely beat Austria.
DICKSUCKER NATIONALELF!!! ;D THEY DESERVED IT :P :P :P
Nice victory for Croatia! About quarter-finals prediction, I can't remember where we predicted about each group classified teams... Any suggestion where to start?
Found it
Quote from: MYSELF! on December 03, 2007, 11:15:42 PM
My tips are the following:
Group A: Czech Republic, Portugal
Group B: Germany, Croatia
Group C: Italy, Netherlands (Sorry Krys!)
Group D: Spain, Greece
According to this quali, I'll tell quarter-finals results as soon as I find the draw for those matches.
First real surprise of the tournament: amazing croatian team, a bit confused german. Now they proved kicking England's ass was not only a lucky accident... ;)
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on June 10, 2008, 07:06:51 PM
CZE-POR 1-0
SUI-TUR 2-2
CRO-GER 0-2
AUT-POL 1-1
ITA-ROM 1-0
NED-FRA 2-1
SWE-ESP 0-2
GRE-RUS 0-1
;)
Very, very, very lucky and undeserved penalty for Austria. On the other hand the Polish goal was offside...
Strange thing:
- Polish player scored 3 goals in Germany team, two versus Poland (Podolski)
- Turkish player scored a goal in Switzerland team versus Turkey (Yakin)
- Bosnian player scored a goal in Sweden team (Ibrahimovic)
- Brasilian player scored a goal in Portugal team (Deco)
- Brasilian player scored a goal in Poland team (Guerreiro)
- Croatian player scored a goal in Austria team (Vastic)
...
Naturalization of foreigner players is disgusting. National teams should be PURE.
There are really only two ways to determine where someone comes from:
1. citizenship
2. birthplace
You cannot use birthplace, because that would mean people would have to play for a country they don't have citizenship in, which I believe would be legally impossible and "freeze out" players that leave their original countries.
So you have to go by citizenship, and then it happens that some players are originally from other countries. But it's a national championship after all, not a racial or ethnic championship. Currently it's an interstate championship. A national championship is impossible.
Well, a couple years ago I tended to be rather radical against nationalized players too. Later I realized applying birthplace criteria would be a huge injustice to, at the very least, people who emigrated as children, or even in their early teens, and lived in another country ever since - how come people that were brought up in a certain country must be supposed not to identify with it by default? The bottom line is: there are two extreme cases: players that achieved citzenship after emigrating as babies and reached the NT much later and people that requested citzenship with the sole purprose of playing in the NT. No argument against naturalization in NTs can possibly be valid unless the proponent has a suggestion for discriminating between those two cases in a fair and effective way (even that would probably not be enough, BJ's interstate tournament perspective is a pretty solid one).
And BTW, a quick look at Wikipedia reveals that:
1. Hakan Yakin was actually born in Basel, Switzerland;
2. Lukas Podolski emigrated to Germany merely two years old; and
3. Zlatan Ibrahimovic was born in Malmö, Sweden
That was a pretty sad choice of examples for the argument... :-X
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Back to football: Great result for Croatia today! Too bad Croatia v. Poland will be on Monday, now I would really like to watch it... Let's wait for the Austrian upset... ;D
Hungary had only 3 "foreigner" players so far (Akoss: correct me if I'm wrong):
Vasile Miriuta (Romanian, 2000-2003) - quite good midfield in a good Hungarian team (good = a lot better than now :D), 9 matches, 1 goal. He also used to be the best scorer of Györi ETO in the late 90's.
Thomas Sowunmi (Nigerian, 1999-2006) - the only nigger and a very crappy forward with 10 matches and 1 goal. Alibi player...
Leandro de Almeida (Brasilian, 2004-) - defender with average skills, still close to the national team. Stats: 7 matches, no goals. One of his junior teams was Corinthians.
I think the knockout phase will be:
Quarter-finals
Portugal - Germany (because C. Ronaldo is a gay asshole)
Croatia - Czech Republic (go Croatia, go!!!)
Netherlands - Sweden (simply better team)
Spain - France (because they are dirty lucky as always, sorry Töff. And also because Spain can't grow up to big events, even if they seem to be the strongest team of Euro2008 so far)
Semi-finals
Portugal - Croatia (because C. Ronaldo is still a gay asshole)
Netherlands - France (finally... ;D)
FINAL
Portugal - Netherlands (shit... gay asshole C. Ronaldo will be the player of the year :-\ >:()
Netherlands - France in half time: exciting match, very good start from Dutch team. After the 30th minute France started to play their real football and caused many trouble for van der Sar. Henry's performance is a kind of disappointment for me - let's see if he's able to play better in the second half or not.
Italy - Romania: no comment, refrees should go to hell with the whole Romanian national eleven. Italy was ways better but they lost a valid goal and was punished by an unfair penalty. Luckily Buffon saved the shot of dirty gipsy Mutu. I think Italy is almost out... :-\
Dutch whitewash... I can't find any words, we can talk about Netherlands only in superlativus... The best match of Euro2008 so far (NED-FRA was also amazing in 2000).
The fourth goal was even nicer than the Ibrahimovic bomb!
Well, my tips wherenot so accurate, but at least I got Ned as winner...
BTW, amazing performance by the Neds so far! I thought they might be a surprise (remember I tip for them as a surprise champion) but not at this level. They have already beaten (or ass-kicked would be better ;) ) 2 of the candidates to be champions. And Rom doesn't suck as much as I thought. Hpofully "Group of the dead" will end up "killing" the 2 big dogs!
Edit: My tips for weekend matches: (I'll be really specific)
Sweden 1 (Ibra will score a goal out of nowhere, as usual)
Spain 3 (Villa will score 2 and a defender will score after a corner or free kick)
Greece 0
Russia 0
Most boring match of EURO so far...
Switzerland 0
Portugal 1 (C. Ronaldo will score an unfair PK)
Turkey 0
Czech Rep. 1 (Jankulovski, direct free kick)
My tips for the last round:
SUI-POR 1-2
TUR-CZE 1-1 (just to see penalties at the end! Strange rule... and UEFA likes drama)
AUT-GER 1-3
CRO-POL 1-0
NED-ROU 2-1 (ROU kills the game while NED will play as a B team - let's hope they won't be so unfair to let ROU win just for eliminating ITA/FRA)
ITA-FRA 1-2
ESP-GRE 2-0
SWE-RUS 2-1
Quote from: CTG on June 14, 2008, 02:55:49 AM
My tips for the last round:
SUI-POR 1-2
TUR-CZE 1-1 (just to see penalties at the end! Strange rule... and UEFA likes drama)
AUT-GER 1-3
CRO-POL 1-0
NED-ROU 2-1 (ROU kills the game while NED will play as a B team - let's hope they won't be so unfair to let ROU win just for eliminating ITA/FRA)
ITA-FRA 1-2
ESP-GRE 2-0
SWE-RUS 2-1
Mine are:
Switzerland-Portugal 0-0 (most boring game of ECH, UEFA asks POR to give a point to SUI)
Turkey-Czech Republic 0-1 (very hard match, Turkish defense makes a mistake)
Austria-Germany 0-2 (GER wins prestige match easily)
Croatia-Poland 2-2 (POL says farewell with heads up, 2-2 on a good match)
Netherlands-Romania 1-3 (UEFA bribes NED to lay down or NED wants to eliminate ITA/FRA to avoid a tough meeting in the semis, van Basten is unfair)
Italy-France 1-1 (they will cry together)
Spain-Greece 2-0 (Spanish offense is too hard for the disciplined, but technically mediocre GRE defence)
Sweden-Russia 2-1 (on a good match, with goals of Ibrahimovic)
Last round:
SWI-POR 1-1
CZE-TUR 2-0
GER-AUS 2-0
POL-CRO 1-2
NED-ROM 2-0
ITA-FRA 1-1 (penalty shootout!)
RUS-SWE 3-2
SPA-GRE 3-0
Finally caught something live - 2nd half of SWE - ESP. As it seems Sweden has gone plain clueless attack-wise after Ibrahimovic was subbed out... but Spain was really captivating, both in flair and fighting spirit!
I don't really understand why Croatia can kick ass Italy (2x), Germany(2x), England(2x) etc. but when it comes to play vs. Switzerland (2006), Malta, Austria, sometimes it's so hard to score a single goal. Any ideas?
Quote from: Mislav on June 15, 2008, 01:45:16 PM
I don't really understand why Croatia can kick ass Italy (2x), Germany(2x), England(2x) etc. but when it comes to play vs. Switzerland (2006), Malta, Austria, sometimes it's so hard to score a single goal. Any ideas?
Maybe Switzerland, Malta and Austria are stronger than England, Italy and Germany. :D
Maybe the Croatians have some psychological issues like undestimating some of the weaker teams, wanting an "easy" day, but then being extra set up and motivated against the big teams.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on June 14, 2008, 11:24:25 PM
Last round:
SWI-POR 1-1
CZE-TUR 2-0
GER-AUS 2-0
POL-CRO 1-2
NED-ROM 2-0
ITA-FRA 1-1 (penalty shootout!)
RUS-SWE 3-2
SPA-GRE 3-0
If Italy and France plays an 1-1 draw (or 2-2, or 3-3 etc.), and Romania loses against Holland, (and I'm not mistaken,) Italy will go through the quarter finals. That's because in this case, Italy, Romania and France will both have 2 points. The results against each other counts, if I know well. The mini round-robin table would look like this
1 Italy 0 2 1 2-2 2pts
2 France 0 2 1 1-1 2pts
2 Romania 0 2 1 1-1 2pts,
and between France and Romania, the goal difference will be decisive (not in this round-robin, but in the full group). So Italy would go through in the way they were eliminated in 2004: the more goals scored in their draw-finished matches.
If they play 0-0, then:
1 Romania 0 2 1 1-1 2pts
1 Italy 0 2 1 1-1 2pts
3 France 0 2 1 0-0 2pts,
and between Italy and Romania, the goal difference will decide. If Romania loses exactly 3-0 to Netherlands, then it will be the UEFA coefficient decisive (because there's no ITA-ROM match in the last group round).
Let's hope NED will kick the gipsy asses! ;D
By the way, check http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/19079.pdf
You can find the correct rules about the question.
Oh my... Turkey guys are really fanatic. Poor Cech... :-\
That was appalling :( I am sad because I hoped Czech Republic would win. But I must say it was a really impressive performance from Turkey, they have very high discipline, fighting on so strongly in the rain when they are down 2-0 with 20 minutes left.
Quote from: Mislav on June 15, 2008, 01:45:16 PM
I don't really understand why Croatia can kick ass Italy (2x), Germany(2x), England(2x) etc. but when it comes to play vs. Switzerland (2006), Malta, Austria, sometimes it's so hard to score a single goal. Any ideas?
Probably it is because they play very well when Counter-Attacking, and not so good when they have all the responsability to break a strong defense, they just lack the ideas...
After seeing Germany today, I can see only three teams can still win this championship: Portugal, The Netherlands and Spain.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on June 16, 2008, 10:37:42 PM
After seeing Germany today, I can see only three teams can still win this championship: Portugal, The Netherlands and Spain.
That's not exactly what Gary Lineker said in 1990... ;D
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on June 16, 2008, 10:37:42 PM
After seeing Germany today, I can see only three teams can still win this championship: Portugal, The Netherlands and Spain.
Don't forget Croatia. With their "B" team they were better than Poland.
Quote from: Krys TOFF on June 16, 2008, 11:00:02 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on June 16, 2008, 10:37:42 PM
After seeing Germany today, I can see only three teams can still win this championship: Portugal, The Netherlands and Spain.
Don't forget Croatia. With their "B" team they were better than Poland.
This Croatian team is quite good but still far from Portugal, Netherlands and Spain. And don't forget: they are playing with Turkey - very hard oppontent with endless enthusiasm. I'm not sure about a Croatian victory in the quarter-final...
Quote from: CTG on June 14, 2008, 02:55:49 AM
CRO-POL 1-0
;)
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on June 16, 2008, 10:37:42 PM
After seeing Germany today, I can see only three teams can still win this championship: Portugal, The Netherlands and Spain.
Portugal? Really? Am I the only one who thinks they're not so strong and only had a very easy group? I think Germany will beat them but I'll tip after every 1/4 final matchup is decided. About Spain, if they have to face France or Italy, I don't think they can win easily...
Quote from: Chulk on June 17, 2008, 12:11:10 AM
Portugal? Really? Am I the only one who thinks they're not so strong and only had a very easy group? I think Germany will beat them but I'll tip after every 1/4 final matchup is decided.
Because you hate C Ronaldo. Me too. ;D On the other hand I also hate German football, so... :D
My priority list for winnig Euro2008
1 Netherlands - shall I explain or their 7 goals to Italy+France is enough to say they are in bombastic shape? On the other hand they can just play worse than this...
2 Spain - very good forwards, without Raul they really seem to be more combinative and faster. Their big disadvantage is the history, they always fail in the important moments.
3 Portugal - because C. Ronaldo is a gay asshole...
4 Germany - strong as always, maybe a bit high and mighty: it caused their loss versus Croatia. Good lesson for them, they won't underestimate their future opponents at this tournament.
5 Croatia - Quite good team as I wrote earlier, but defeating Germany was a kind of luck for them. I'm cheering for them (and Spain) at the moment.
6 Turkey - not so technical or nice game but their fanatism is world-class. You could see versus SUI and CZE: it means a lot!
7 and 8... well, it will turn out soon but those two teams won't be very strong.
Quote from: CTG on June 17, 2008, 12:24:01 AM
Quote from: Chulk on June 17, 2008, 12:11:10 AM
Portugal? Really? Am I the only one who thinks they're not so strong and only had a very easy group? I think Germany will beat them but I'll tip after every 1/4 final matchup is decided.
Because you hate C Ronaldo. Me too. ;D On the other hand I also hate German football, so... :D
I don't hate C. Ronaldo. Well, I do! But that's not the reason. Even if he's the best player in the world (I don't think so, but...) he can't win a Championship by himself. Messi can't, Zidane wouldn't have won if he hadn't had great players around him, Pele had a superb team, Maradona had a great defense behind him... It's simply impossible. And the rest of Portugal team is just not good enough. That's why I bet on Germany instead for 1/4 finals.
CTG said: "Croatia - Quite good team as I wrote earlier, but defeating Germany was a kind of luck for them."
?????
I DON'T THINK SO!!
You know the new definition of football?
"Football is a game with two teams of 11 players where Germany wins in the end, except when playing against Croatia."
:)
Well... the main problem* was that Germany underestimated Croatia. I guess they would beat CRO 6 or 7 times from 10.
* problem for Germany, I cheered for Croatia (+ Russia, Poland, Spain) from the beginning of the tournament.
Italy... ;)
(Thanks God, Romania is out! ;D)
My tips for tomorrow's Group D matches:
Spain 2 - 0 Greece (Güiza will show all his scoring power)
Russia 0 - 1 Sweden (Someone after a free kick)
Don't forget: Arshavin will be back today! Let's hope Sweden will be out.
GO RUSSIA!!!
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on June 14, 2008, 11:24:25 PM
Last round:
SWI-POR 1-1
CZE-TUR 2-0
GER-AUS 2-0
POL-CRO 1-2
NED-ROM 2-0
ITA-FRA 1-1
RUS-SWE 3-2
SPA-GRE 3-0
;)
HOT MESSAGE FROM AKOSS POO IN SMS:
No Internet for him today. He asked us to tip on the results after 120 minutes (due to the possible extra time) and he also predicted the results.
Quote from: Akoss Poo
POR-GER 1-1
ITA-ESP 1-1
CRO-TUR 2-0
NED-RUS 4-2
And my tips:
POR-GER 2-1
ITA-ESP 1-2
CRO-TUR 1-1
NED-RUS 3-1
POR-GER 2-0
CRO-TUR 1-0
NED-RUS 2-2 (Russia wins penalty shootout)
ITA-SPA 1-1 (Spain wins penalty shootout)
GER-POR 2-1
ITA-ESP 1-1 (Italy wins penalty shootout)
NED-RUS 2-1
TUR-CRO 2-0
Btw, BÖFF! ;)
Ah I forgot to tell the penalty part:
CRO-TUR 1-1 after 120 mins, Turkey wins penalty shootout.
Glorious day for the Turkish reserve goalie...
My tips:
POR 2 - 1 GER (Frings insn't playing, so now POR will win in 90')
CRO 1 - 1 TUR (PK)
Quote from: CTG on June 19, 2008, 02:28:26 PM
CRO-TUR 1-1 after 120 mins, Turkey wins penalty shootout.Glorious day for the Turkish reserve goalie...
I actually think that's why they'll loose, just to make the other goalie look even worse.
NED 3 - 1 RUS (in 90')
SPA 2 - 1 ITA (in Extra time)
Even if I don't like the German football: NO MORE C. RONALDO, WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! ;D
Damn! I should have stayed with my original tip. I've said Germany would win in many different posts and changed just because Frings wasn't playing...
Quote from: CTG on June 19, 2008, 02:28:26 PM
Ah I forgot to tell the penalty part:
CRO-TUR 1-1 after 120 mins, Turkey wins penalty shootout.
Glorious day for the Turkish reserve goalie...
Nostradamus lives! ;D
Just an interesting fact: Turkey was leading for 6 minutes (overall) at Euro2008 - but won 3 matches...
Quote from: CTG on June 20, 2008, 11:47:58 PM
Quote from: CTG on June 19, 2008, 02:28:26 PM
Ah I forgot to tell the penalty part:
CRO-TUR 1-1 after 120 mins, Turkey wins penalty shootout.
Glorious day for the Turkish reserve goalie...
Nostradamus lives! ;D
Best prediction yet! Good job
Russia plays better, lucky equalizer by Netherlands. Very good match! I hope we won't see penalties again.
Amazing, mind-blowing game by Russia, seriously one of the most impressive performances over a whole match (and more!) I remember from recent past! Eastern Europe FTW!! 8)
I'm in total awe of Russia! :o
I was really moved, watching this game. This is the way football was always meant to be played. Best match I've watched so far. Also great play from The Netherlands, but it was a very well-deserved victory, Russia was stellar.
I happened to be in Germany on the days the Germans and the Turks have played, and at the second day I seriously thought that this time the Turkish have not stopped at Budapest, but invaded Germany - the streets were completely crazy and filled with Turkish flags :)
Germany vs Turkey is just coming, not happened yet... :D
True, but Germany - Portugal and Turkey - Croatia were on two consecutive days.
Anyway, I've had completely the same experience! I was in June... actually on this exact day the 22nd of June, 6 years ago when Turkey beat Senegal in the World Championship quarter-final. And the streets were PACKED with happy turkish people shouting, singing, dancing, waving flags and honking forever. There was no way to tell we were in Germany and not Turkey. I would like to see Hamburg tomorrow (?) when the semi-final is played.
For today: go Spain! It would be too strange to see all the group winners falling. And I also would like to see Akoss crying about the result (because of "certainly unfair" help to Spain by offside goal/stupid refree/weather). :P ;D
Fashion teams out (okay, maybe Spain is that, too) - the permanently strong and well ordered German, the fanatic and lucky Turkish, the improving offensive and fast Russian and finally the strong, history killer (?) Spanish teams are still alive.
My predictions
Germany - Turkey 3-1
Russia - Spain 1-1 (Spain wins penalty shootout - again)
My tips for semis:
Germany 2 - 0 Turkey
Spain 2 - 1 Russia
Germany-Turkey 4-0
Spain-Russia 1-1
Poor Turkey, damned lucky germans... Poor me, I couldn't watch the match (no internet, the hostel's club with large screens was full). Tonight: go Russia! I'll watch it at home... :)
Turkey played much better than I expected with so few players available. Germany's effectiveness was just too much for them. But still a great Euro for them reaching semi-finals!
Spain will win today as Spanish Offense/Deffense is more balanced than Dutch, which was much more offensive and hence more open for counter-attacks (Russian specialty this Euro)
Well... we have our final contenders. Bets are open!
Spain 3 - 2 Germany
The Spanish eleven has destroyed everything history had against them (quarters - Italy - PK's on June 22...) and now are really confident, even if David Villa can't play (it's not sure yet), when (Fran)Cesc Fábregas came in yesterday, Spain started to play better.
Germany will pressure the usual amount of minutes but playing full power for 25-30 minutes won't be enough this time.
I find this final very difficult to predict. It seems clear that Spain has the higher top level, so if they perform to the maximum, they will win. However, Germany has a really high bottom level, so if Spain doesn't have a good day, Germany will win no matter what. I predict a German win because the German style is better suited for a final. It will be a typical 1-0.
Well... I got the winner and BJ got the result, only the other way around! Not a very entertaining match to watch and it gave the impresion Spain was always in control of the match. It never felt like they could loose even when they were 0-0. Congrats to Spain for breaking every curse they had over them. Maybe South Africa 2010 (if it's played there, Blatter has a "plan b" if things get worse) can confirm they have changed the history of Spanish national football team.
...and for once the undoubtedly best team won, without ifs or buts, a fitting end to a brililant tournament. Congratulations to Spain!
I'm fed up with this disgusting C. Ronaldo - Manchester United - Real Madrid saga... Headshot for him!
Fifa World Ranking list (sorry it's a bit delayed...)
Rank Team Pts Jul 08 Rank Jun 08 Pts Jun 08
1 Spain 1557 3 254
2 Italy 1404 1 -20
3 Germany 1364 2 90
4 Brazil 1344 -2 -169
5 Netherlands 1299 5 188
6 Argentina 1298 -5 -261 [/i]
7 Croatia 1282 8 265
8 Czech 1146 -2 -100
9 Portugal 1104 2 10
10 France 1053 -3 -90
...
36 Denmark 722 -3 -28
...
52 Hungary 591 0 11
I don't get how can Brazil be over Argentina if they got only 1 point in last 2 Matches and lost a friendly with Venezuela while we got 2 draw Vs. Brazil and Ecuador in last 2 matches and won Vs. Mexico our friendly and draw the other Vs. USA...
On another news: Cvitanich who recently moved from Banfield to Ajax accepted to play for Croatia's National Team. Another Argentinian playing for other country.
Maybe Brazil still got point from the last Copa América.
PS: Next Copa América will be in Argentina :)
Quote from: Rotoi on July 12, 2008, 05:44:49 PM
Maybe Brazil still got point from the last Copa América.
PS: Next Copa América will be in Argentina :)
We should have those points too. The only possiblity is that Argentina has loast more points than Brazil due to "Presciption"... (I want to say Vencimiento but the word in English doesn't come into my mind right now).
Edit: The expression I was loking was "points expired"!
Quote from: Chulk on July 13, 2008, 02:13:09 AM
We should have those points too. The only possiblity is that Argentina has loast more points than Brazil due to "Presciption"... (I want to say Vencimiento but the word in English doesn't come into my mind right now).
Edit: The expression I was loking was "points expired"!
Must be it, that's the only way the gap could actually have become larger. There must be something really stupid on those ranking formulas... ::)
Quote from: Rotoi on July 12, 2008, 05:44:49 PM
PS: Next Copa América will be in Argentina :)
Well, beating you guys in the final will be a lot more lively and colorful if it is played at Buenos Aires... ;D
Quote from: CTG on July 11, 2008, 05:31:25 PM
I'm fed up with this disgusting C. Ronaldo - Manchester United - Real Madrid saga... Headshot for him!
Nauseating indeed, some people do make a point of acting just like their stereotypes...
Under-19 European Championships in Czech Republic.
Day 1
Germany-Spain 2-1
Hungary-Bulgaria 1-0 (Németh 11')
Czech Republic-England 2-0
Greece-Italy 1-1
Top 6 will qualify for the Under-20 World Championships next year.
Racing Club, my team, won the promotion so we still are in the "A" league.
PS: jaja "won the promotion" me causa gracia leer esa mentira en ingles jajaja.
PS2: This is our stadium for 51k people. http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=-34.667572,-58.368575&spn=0.002047,0.005407&t=h&z=18
PS3: This is the coat of arms. The star means the Intercontinental cup we won ^_^. (http://www.diegodel.com/images/eBay%20Pictures/ARGENTINA/ARGENTINA%20LEAGUE%20JERSEYS/RACING/racingsimple%20(3).jpg)
PS4: And this is the shirt: (http://www.solodeportes.com.ar/imagenes/800020142230001-1.jpg)
The club born in 1905.
You came back to the forum just to post about Racing? That sucks man!
(Es joda Alan, soy tripero asi que este año nos toca zafar a nosotros...)
Football joke of the year: Samuel Eto'o will continue his career in Taskent. Or not... ;D
http://www.pfc-kuruvchi.com/eng/news_details.asp?newsID=601
UEFA Cup qualifications, 1st round:
Györi ETO FC - FK Zestaponi 1-1 (0-1)
Disappointing preformance, thanks for the "great" players bought lately... That sucks! I predict Zestaponi victory for the re-match (3-1).
At least Hungary beated Spain at U19 Euro Cup (1-0), we are probably in the semi-finals with this (and qualified to the next year U20 world cup). Biggest success of Hungarian football in the last 10-15 years!
Today:
Szombathelyi Haladás (HUN) vs Arsenal FC ;D
Quote from: CTG on July 22, 2008, 02:13:33 AM
Today:
Szombathelyi Haladás (HUN) vs Arsenal FC ;D
Expected result : 0-10 :D
Quote from: Krys TOFF on July 22, 2008, 01:16:37 PM
Quote from: CTG on July 22, 2008, 02:13:33 AM
Today:
Szombathelyi Haladás (HUN) vs Arsenal FC ;D
Expected result : 0-10 :D
Expected result: 1-4
It's a friendly match so maybe even less... Realistic difference is about 5 goals.
Edit: 1-0 for Haladás in the 32nd minute! LOL!
Arsenal started with: Almunia - Sagna, Wilshire, Vela, Ramsey, G. Hoyte, Clichy, Denilson, J. Hoyte, Wallcott, Bendtner
Edit #2: Wallcott equalized in 41st minute, 1-1Edit #3: FULL TIME: 1-1!!! It was a damned boring match with high ball possession from Arsenal.Few days ago: Zalaegerszegi TE - SSC Napoli 1-1 (not the best result of ZTE - they beated Manchester United in 2002 ;D)
Quote from: CTG on July 17, 2008, 10:00:37 PM
UEFA Cup qualifications, 1st round:
Györi ETO FC - FK Zestaponi 1-1 (0-1)
Disappointing preformance, thanks for the "great" players bought lately... That sucks! I predict Zestaponi victory for the re-match (3-1).
Re-match:
FK Zestaponi - Györi ETO FC 1-2 (0-0), survived...
Today: draw of the second qualification round. Possible opponents are VfB Stuttgart (GER, no please), FC Zürich (SUI), Grasshoppers (SUI), Liberec (CZE), Vaslui (ROM).
F U C K ! ! !
VfB Stuttgart vs Györi ETO FC...
Don't worry, it's alright....
...They would have lost to all the other teams as well :)
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on August 01, 2008, 05:13:18 PM
Don't worry, it's alright....
...They would have lost to all the other teams as well :)
Don't be so sure. Anyway where's Arhus team? :P
I thought there would be something written in that big gap!
Well, we're not so close to the UEFA cup, but of course that's because we're not playing in a crappy league like the Hungarian one :P
After 2 rounds, AGF has 3 points, at 6th place. It's been a while since our last UEFA cup game. I think it was in 1997 sometime :) AGF lost to Olympija Ljubljana... But the year before, we beat Újpest and Nantes to get to the 1/16 final, where we were very unlucky to lose vs Twente (but to be fair, we were really really lucky to win vs Nantes.).
Yes, it was long ago...
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on August 01, 2008, 05:22:45 PM
we're not playing in a crappy league like the Hungarian one :P
Danish first class is not very strong, it's rather close to the Hungarian level.
UEFA coefficients of Denmark and Hungary in international cups (year to year between 2004 and 2008):
Denmark 4.200, 1.500, 3.500, 6.125 ,5.125
Hungary 4.833, 4.166, 1.000, 1.000, 1.000
We had 3 crappy years, current one is already stronger than the last three.
Well, let's see if AaB (will play Glasgow Rangers for CL qualification), FC København, Brøndby, FC Midtjylland and FC Nordsjælland (at UEFA qualification 2nd round, FCM will have a hard time vs Manchester City, but the others have 50%+ chances of winning) can do something about that :)
(actually I don't like these teams, I'm only pretending to like them when they play in international tournaments :))
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on August 01, 2008, 06:09:19 PM
(actually I don't like these teams, I'm only pretending to like them when they play in international tournaments :))
A bit similar situation between me and Debrecen. But at least I don't pretend: simply cheer for their opponents. ;D
Well, FBK Kaunas from Mingvaland surprisingly eliminated Glasgow Rangers, so now there's a really good chance of a Danish team in the Champions League this year...
Oh no, I've missed the most important match of the weekend! But at least I'm contented with the result. ;)
NB II, Group East, 1st round:
Kazincbarcika - Szolnok 1-2
Quote from: Usrin on August 11, 2008, 10:43:56 AM
Oh no, I've missed the most important match of the weekend! But at least I'm contented with the result. ;)
NB II, Group East, 1st round:
Kazincbarcika - Szolnok 1-2
I didn't want to mention it there because of the terribly shameful result. But you did it. We will take revenge on your team in the spring season! ;D
UEFA Cup qualifications, 2nd round, first match:
VfB Stuttgart - Györi ETO FC 2-1 (2-1)
ETO played quite good (with a nice goal), they deserved that tight game. Re-match? I guess Stuttgart has 95 percent chance for knocking out our team. But the ETO stadium will be full of Hungarian fanatics, they give that 5 percent... ;)
Surprisingly tight match for Györ, I guess Stuttgart will kill them on the second match. Debrecen also played, and sucked: Young Boys-Debrecen 4-1 (1-1)... it's so typical, Hungarian teams play the weakest against beatable (but not weak) teams on important matches...
Chulk - Duplode 3-0... :D
It would have been easier for Debrecen if they had to play the Old Ladies team instead...
Anyway, things are looking great for Danish football at the moment. We have 5 teams in the European tournaments, and they are all doing great. This round's results:
CL:
AaB (Aalborg) - Kaunas (Lithuania) 2-0
UEFA:
Brøndby - Haka Valkeakoski (Finland) 4-0
Queen of the South (Scotland) - FC Nordsjælland 1-2
FC København - Lillestrøm (Norway) 3-1
Manchester City - FC Midtjylland 0-1
Chances for advancement:
Aab: 75%
Brøndby: 99%
FC Nordsjælland: 90%
FC København: 80%
FC Midtjylland: 35%
And in the national league, AGF Aarhus just thrashed Brøndby by 2-1 :) skid off Brøndby.
Quote from: CTG on August 19, 2008, 05:19:34 PM
Chulk - Duplode 3-0... :D
YES! Great match from us. Brazil decided not to try to attack, as they did in Copa America final and in Qualyfiers (with good result, I must say), only that this time, Argentina manged to score and when they had to attack, they just didn't know how to do it. It seemed after the 1st goal, that they would pressure in Argentina's side of the field, but it only lasted until Mascherano appeared with full power in the match (R. Benitez said he's the best Defensive Midfielder in the world, I think so too) and even generated 2 red cars (Lucas and Thiago Neves).
Now, a very difficult match against Nigeria (African young teams are always strong) at Beijing's 12pm. It will be very hot, so they have and advantage there. Anyway, I think we will win, but it won't be an easy victory as today... :D
Final Nigeria-Argentina will be the revenge of Olympics 1996 (victory of Nigeria 2-1 if I remember it well).
Quote from: Krys TOFF on August 19, 2008, 05:47:32 PM
Final Nigeria-Argentina will be the revenge of Olympics 1996 (victory of Nigeria 2-1 if I remember it well).
No, you remember wrong. It was 3-2. That Nigeria team was really great, my favourite for those games (after Argentina, of course). Kanu, Okocha, Babayaro, Amunike, Amokachi, Oruma, Babangida... A hell of a team, really.
Also, Brazil also played (and won) Bronze medal there, beating Portugal 5-0. Ronaldinho played in that Brazilian team as an u-23 and Bebeto scored a great hattrick in that bronze medal match.
I don't remember who was, but somebody laught at us when Argentina lost the Copa America against Brazil (of course was a brazilian guy) so here is my answer:
ARGENTINA 3 - BRAZIL 0 !!!!!!!!!!!!
3!!!!!!! in your face!!!!!!!!!! jajajaja
:P
Leo Ramone? Dark Chaser? Vamologocomisso? Renato Biker? Duplode? ;D
Quote from: CTG on August 20, 2008, 10:56:29 AM
Leo Ramone? Dark Chaser? Vamologocomisso? Renato Biker? Duplode? ;D
It must have been me, as I was the only active Brazilian back then IIRC... :D As for the game, well, the truth had to appear eventually: there's no way we can pretend to be a defensive team while doing such passive defending, or playing an isolated striker while having three attacking midfielders and two very techincally-capable defensive mids. This farce keeps running blatantly through all of the skidding "Dunga era" - even at Copa América one year ago it was pretty obvious Argentina lost the game to a far bigger extent than we actually won it (it never would have happended should Argentina perform at their usual level).
But to hell with our male team anyway, we still have a great final ahead of us tomorrow... :)
Belarus - Argentina 0-0... ::) ???
Quote from: CTG on August 20, 2008, 10:56:53 PM
Belarus - Argentina 0-0... ::) ???
It was expectable. Most of the 'real' team is in Beijing. This was just to see some other players.
Quote from: Chulk on August 21, 2008, 02:49:43 AM
Quote from: CTG on August 20, 2008, 10:56:53 PM
Belarus - Argentina 0-0... ::) ???
It was expectable. Most of the 'real' team is in Beijing. This was just to see some other players.
Well...
Quote from: Nemzeti Sport OnlineCarrizo – J. Zanetti, Burdisso, Coloccini, Heinze – Ledesma (Cavenaghi, 64.), Cambiasso, L. González, J. Gutiérrez – Denis (M. González, 64.), Tévez (L. López, 79.)
It seems to be a very strong Argentinian team... Only Messi, Agüero and Riquelme are missing.
Quote from: CTG on August 21, 2008, 10:45:12 AM
Quote from: Chulk on August 21, 2008, 02:49:43 AM
Quote from: CTG on August 20, 2008, 10:56:53 PM
Belarus - Argentina 0-0... ::) ???
It was expectable. Most of the 'real' team is in Beijing. This was just to see some other players.
Well...
Quote from: Nemzeti Sport OnlineCarrizo – J. Zanetti, Burdisso, Coloccini, Heinze – Ledesma (Cavenaghi, 64.), Cambiasso, L. González, J. Gutiérrez – Denis (M. González, 64.), Tévez (L. López, 79.)
It seems to be a very strong Argentinian team... Only Messi, Agüero and Riquelme are missing.
Mascherano and Gago are in Beijing too. Also Demichelis and Maxi Rodriguez missed the match.
Some football results:
international friendly: Hungary-Montenegro 3-3 (1-1)
NB II East: Baktalórántháza-Kazincbarcika 2-1 (very annoying result), Kazincbarcika-DVSC B team/DEAC 2-1
Bundesliga 2.: Augsburg-Ahlen 3-0, goals from Torghelle (2) and Szabics, two Hungarian international forwards who were criticised very very much in the past. One of Torghelle's goals was from a scissors kick shot... Miracles can happen sometimes...
Anorthosis Famagusta FC beat Olympiacos CFP in UEFA quali! First Cypriot team to play a UEFA Cup!
Quote from: Chulk on August 28, 2008, 08:27:03 PM
Anorthosis Famagusta FC beat Olympiacos CFP in UEFA quali! First Cypriot team to play a UEFA Cup!
Not UEFA Cup, even better: UEFA Champions League!
Along with AaB (Aalborg), who beat Kaunas 2-0 (4-0 agg.)!
FC Midtjylland was eliminated by Manchester City after penalty shootout :'(
Wait a minute, I don't like FC Midtjylland... Their fans even threatened me with violence once.
Anyway, still 4 teams going strong: AaB (to play Manchester United, Villareal and Celtic - funny, the last three times a Danish team has been in Champions League, they have had to play MU. Last time, FCK even also had to play Celtic.), Brøndby, FC København, FC Nordsjælland.
Quote from: CTG on August 28, 2008, 08:34:26 PM
Quote from: Chulk on August 28, 2008, 08:27:03 PM
Anorthosis Famagusta FC beat Olympiacos CFP in UEFA quali! First Cypriot team to play a UEFA Cup!
Not UEFA Cup, even better: UEFA Champions League!
Yes, I know. I meant UEFA as the Association, I expressed confusely.
European Supercup:
Zenit Leningrad (erm... St. Petersburg) - Manchester United 2-1 (1-0)
The Russian magic continues... ;)
(http://www.racing.com.ar/img/escudos/argentinos.gif) 0-1 (http://www.racing.com.ar/img/escudos/racing.gif)
Argentinos Jrs. 0-1 Racing Club
Quote from: CTG on August 29, 2008, 10:51:36 PM
European Supercup:
Zenit Leningrad (erm... St. Petersburg) - Manchester United 2-1 (1-0)
The Russian magic continues... ;)
Hope Zenit keeps its players long enough so we can see what they're up to at CL! I saw only the final minutes of the game, best moment was Scholes scoring a volleyball point (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB2h1ynKLII)... :D
Quote from: Rotoi on August 31, 2008, 04:20:58 PM
(http://www.racing.com.ar/img/escudos/argentinos.gif) 0-1 (http://www.racing.com.ar/img/escudos/racing.gif)
Argentinos Jrs. 0-1 Racing Club
Which championship was this played for? :)
I forgot to mention that :) Apertura 2008
Saturday, September 6, Budapest:
Hungary vs Denmark
What do you think?
The Danish team is in a bit of a crisis because we have had three key players injured yesterday: goalkeeper Thomas Sørensen, Arsenal forward Nicklas Bendtner and defender Kasper Bøgelund. I think Hungary has a fair chance because the Danish team will be disorganized and lack true passion.
I guess if the Hungarian team can play the game which they played against Greece and Croatia in May, we can reach a draw. Let me be a bit optimistic, my tip is: Hungary-Denmark 1-1 (1-0).
NB II East, Kazincbarcika in terrible form:
Makó-Kazincbarcika 3-0
After 4 matches, we have 3 points, and we are lying in 14th position, which would mean relegation...
Hungarian Cup
1st round: Kazincbarcika did not have to play
2nd round: Karancslapujtö (regional league)-Kazincbarcika 0-6
3rd round: Salgótarján (NB III Mátra division, 2nd place team)-Kazincbarcika 0-1
Hungary - Denmark 0 - 0 :'(
Austria 3-1 France :o :'(
WTF happened ? I didn't saw the match, I went to see Pixar's Wall-E with my 2 younger children.
Other results of same group, and another surprise :
Romania 0-3 Lituania :o :o Even worse than French result because it was at their home.
Sebia 2-0 Faroe Islands (logical)
Quote from: Krys TOFF on September 06, 2008, 11:52:35 PM
Sebia 2-0 Faroe Islands (logical)
Didn't even know Faroe played football!
Quote from: Krys TOFF on September 06, 2008, 11:52:35 PM
Austria 3-1 France
Yeah! ;D
Quote from: Krys TOFF on September 06, 2008, 11:52:35 PM
Romania 0-3 Lituania
Well, well, well... two nations from the dirtiest TOP10. But I'm so happy to see gipsyland suck! (Even versus the "Mingvas")
JUSTICE FOR HUNGARY!!! ;D
About the Hungary-Denmark match: it was quite a boring one, none of the teams deserved victory. I was a bit shocked after the Danish attacker's shot on the woodwork...
Hungary should have won, Denmark was really out of form, their defense made several mistakes, it's a pity we didn't manage to capitalize on them. The keeper and Laursen was really deconcentrated...
The coach is quoted saying it was Martin Laursen's worst match ever. It's strange because he has really been in a good period in Aston Villa and landed a really big contract.
Now we just have to beat Portugal in Lisbon on Wednesday! That would fire things up in the group. Would be good for the excitement.
U21 qualifications to Euro Cup:
Serbia - Hungary 8-0... >:( ??? :o ::)
skid of Várhidi! He failed as the coach of the national team, he was moved to U21. Very bad strategies, never admitting his own mistakes (not even after this 8-0, he explained with the early red card...) and he chose bad players for the team. Our U19 is really good now but he refused to build them into this squad. Reason: to avoid knockout losses because of the lack of experience...
With a normal coach and same players, there's only 1 goal difference between the two teams.
Quote from: CTG on September 08, 2008, 09:21:24 PM
U21 qualifications to Euro Cup:
Serbia - Hungary 8-0... >:( ??? :o ::)
skid of Várhidi! He failed as the coach of the national team, he was moved to U21. Very bad strategies, never admitting his own mistakes (not even after this 8-0, he explained with the early red card...) and he chose bad players for the team. Our U19 is really good now but he refused to build them into this squad. Reason: to avoid knockout losses because of the lack of experience...
With a normal coach and same players, there's only 1 goal difference between the two teams.
I just read an interview with the forward of this U21 team. He was really self-critic and tried to save the coach with his words, taking all the responsibility with saying it was only the fault of the team. Strange. A good coach is trying to defend his own team - now it's the inverse case.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 08, 2008, 08:25:36 PM
Now we just have to beat Portugal in Lisbon on Wednesday! That would fire things up in the group. Would be good for the excitement.
In the end that did happen, and was pretty exciting it seems! ;)
Quote from: CTG on September 08, 2008, 09:21:24 PM
Serbia - Hungary 8-0... >:( ??? :o ::)
[...] Our U19 is really good now but he refused to build them into this squad. Reason: to avoid knockout losses because of the lack of experience...
>:( ??? :o ::) indeed...
In our group:
Albania-Malta 3-0 (as expected)
Sweden-Hungary 2-1 (Kaellström 55., Holmén 64. vs. Rudolf 93.) - we played very well in the first half, had more chances, but we missed them... Sweden had more in the second, but they were able to capitalize on them... as our coach, Erwin Koeman said, that's the difference between elite football and Hungarian football. That's not so bad, considerating that with coach Várhidi, we had problems not only in scoring efficiency, but in the gameplay, too...
Portugal-Denmark 2-3 - surprising, and a bit lucky win (that last goal in the 93rd minute...), but anyway, congratulations!
Yes. Whoah! :o And I didn't even watch the match. That's a guarantee of a fantastic match with a positive outcome. I'm sad that Hungary didn't take care of Sweden for us, but you will in Budapest. Promise!
Now, Denmark will play the three easiest matches of the qualification: Malta, Malta and Albania (home). Should be 9 points, but if I know our team well, it will be 5-7 points.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 11, 2008, 01:03:13 PM
Yes. Whoah! :o And I didn't even watch the match. That's a guarantee of a fantastic match with a positive outcome. I'm sad that Hungary didn't take care of Sweden for us, but you will in Budapest. Promise!
Now, Denmark will play the three easiest matches of the qualification: Malta, Malta and Albania (home). Should be 9 points, but if I know our team well, it will be 5-7 points.
Good for you you're not Argentina, else it would be 2-3 points... (I'm angry at Basile, can't you tell?)
Kazincbarcikai SC seem to find some form:
Round 5: Kazincbarcika-Vecsés 3-1
Round 6: Tököl-Kazincbarcika 1-3 ;)
in the Hungarian Cup last 32, we'll facing a first division team:
Kazincbarcikai SC-Budapesti Vasas SC ::)
Danish champions and CL-participants from AaB went down today!
AaB - AGF 0 - 2
Yay! ;D ;D
We're GF, and we're proud of it!
Ferencváros - Szolnok 8-1
Any comments from Usrin? ;D
Denmark will play Serbia in the U21 playoffs.... I'm scared :-[
1. Böcs KSC 6 5 1 - 18 - 7 +11 16
2. Ferencvárosi TC 6 5 - 1 24 - 6 +18 15
3. Ceglédi VSE 6 4 - 2 10 - 9 +1 12
4. DVSC - DEAC 6 3 1 2 11 - 10 +1 10
5. MTK Budapest II 6 3 1 2 10 - 12 -2 10
6. Kazincbarcika 6 3 - 3 10 - 10 0 9
7. BKV Elöre SC 6 2 3 1 7 - 6 +1 9
8. Vecsés FC 6 2 2 2 13 - 9 +4 8
9. Jászberényi SE 6 2 2 2 13 - 10 +3 8
10. Makó FC 6 2 1 3 7 - 9 -2 7
11. Baktalórántháza 6 2 1 3 7 - 11 -4 7
12. Szolnoki MÁV - Mondi 6 2 1 3 10 - 17 -7 7
13. Békéscsaba 6 2 - 4 11 - 23 -12 6
14. Vác - Újbuda 6 1 2 3 17 - 16 +1 5
15. ESMTK 6 1 1 4 13 - 14 -1 4
16. Tököl 6 1 - 5 11 - 23 -12 3
Quote from: Akoss Poo on September 16, 2008, 02:47:34 PM
1. Böcs KSC 6 5 1 - 18 - 7 +11 16
For those who doesn't know: Böcs is a small town in Borsod but it's very famous in Hungary. Why? Guess which beer factory is there... ;D
UCL: Roma 1 - 2 Cluj :o Awful result for the Romans and good for the Romanians!
PS: I know that will upset CTG :D
CFR Cluj was founded by a Hungarian man in the 1907 (Kolozsvári Vasutas Sport Club; KVSC). So the original name is Kolozsvár - Cluj-Napoca in Romanian - and it used to be almost a pure Hungarian town around 1910 (over 80%, now this ratio is only 19%). What a shame there's no Hungarian player in the team... :D
I was a bit shocked by that result!
And tonight: Celtic - AaB
It will be a hard one for AaB, but the shouldn't look too much forward because Villareal and Manchester United will be even harder :)
But we remember 2007: FC København - Manchester United 1 - 0
It will also be really interesting to see how Zenit St. Petersburg can perform against the real top teams.
It seems both of CFR Cluj's goals were scored by a guy called Juan Culio :D :D
Do you know what that means in Italian? Oh dear, that must have been an extra insult to Roma ;D
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 17, 2008, 10:14:29 AM
It seems both of CFR Cluj's goals were scored by a guy called Juan Culio :D :D
Do you know what that means in Italian? Oh dear, that must have been an extra insult to Roma ;D
And just for the info... He's Argentinian.
Money, money, money... >:( UEFA is going to vote for a 24 teams Euro2016. More profit, less interesting matches. :-\
Today in the danish Cup:
Brønshøj - AaB 2 - 3 (1 - 1)
Brønshøj is a team from the 3rd best league, maybe the 40th best team in Denmark.
Tuesday in CL:
AaB - Manchester United
::)
Some surprising results from UEFA Champions League:
Fiorentina - Steaua Bucarest 0-0 >:(
BATE Borisov - Juventus 2-2 :o
CFR Cluj - Chelsea 0-0
Anorthosis Famagusta - Panathinaikos 3-1 :o ??? ;D
CFR Cluj seems quite strong. Beating AS Roma in Rome and a draw against Chelsea.
Hungary - Albania 2-0 (0-0)
Really nice game in the second half, this team is a lot stronger than in the Bozsik-Várhidi nightmare era. 3rd place of the qualification group seems to be a hard but realistic goal at the moment.
Faroe Islands - Austria 1-1 :o ;D
Hungary has done reasonably well... Home draw with Denmark, away defeat vs Sweden, home victory vs Albania. But all of those are half-expected results. The real strength of Hungary will show in the away match with Denmark and the home match with Sweden. If Hungary can get 2-3 points in those matches, there is definitely a good progress and you can start to dream :)
Denmark with a safe and not very interesting 3-0 victory against Malta. Perfect 0-0 draw in Sweden - Portugal and things are looking nice for Denmark. But of course everything will depend upon our matches with Sweden.
Good to see all of your NT have chances to go to the World Cup. We'll go for sure, but if we continue to play like this, will come back home in 1st round. :'(
Quote from: CTG on October 11, 2008, 09:47:01 PM
Hungary - Albania 2-0 (0-0)
Really nice game in the second half, this team is a lot stronger than in the Bozsik-Várhidi nightmare era. 3rd place of the qualification group seems to be a hard but realistic goal at the moment.
I hate that hooray optimism. Let's see first if the Koeman team can get all the 12 points versus Malta and Albania or not. That's the only chance to finish 3rd.
Who said that modern football means small scores ?
Champions League, yesterday evening :
St. Bucarest 3-5 Lyon
Fenerbahce 2-5 Arsenal
Villareal 6-3 Aalborg
Manchester United 3-0 Celtic Glasgow
Bayern Munich 3-0 Fiorentina
This is the football I like. :)
I was thinking that too, yesterday! So many goals. This round was interesting to follow even only with text updates :)
(http://www.lanacion.com.ar/especiales/futbol-primera/equipos.asp?equipo_id=71)
Empty message Alan ?
Bah... Györi ETO vs Kazincbarcika in Hungarian Cup's quarterfinals... :-\ >:(
(looking at the paper, we should win by 5 goals - but it will be tight and I give only 60 percent for our victory)
Yay, finally CTG vs Akoss after years of only Usrin vs Akoss :)
Tomorrow: OB - AGF in the last 16 of the Danish cup. Worst possible draw for AGF, away vs the league #1, even though there were a lot of weak teams still in.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on October 28, 2008, 06:54:04 PM
Yay, finally CTG vs Akoss after years of only Usrin vs Akoss :)
If I say we will kick ass... then we won't. So ETO is going to lose.
(Of course not :D)
Arsenal 2 - Racing 2 in an awesome match! We (racing) were 2 - 0 down in the first half and we draw in the second!
I'm starting to watch more football. Argentinian football is one of the most competitive right now. That's the case of River Plate, they won the last championship and now they are at the bottom :O
Anorthosis Famagusta - Internazionale 3-3... :o There's something in the air: BATE Borisov, Anorthosis, CFR Cluj in Champions League; Hoffenheim in Bundesliga...
And dirty cheater refree of Liverpool - Atletico Madrid: equalizer by Gerrard in the 95th minute... from penalty. >:(
This year is the renaissance of Alessandro Del Piero - one of my favorite players ever, famous for his nice/tricky goals, great enthusiasm and loyalty to his team (like Maldini in Milan, Raul in Real Madrid and Giggs in Manchester United). Casillas will have some nightmares about him... ;D
Quote from: CTG on November 04, 2008, 10:44:27 PM
Anorthosis Famagusta - Internazionale 3-3... :o There's something in the air: BATE Borisov, Anorthosis, CFR Cluj in Champions League; Hoffenheim in Bundesliga...
And dirty cheater refree of Liverpool - Atletico Madrid: equalizer by Gerrard in the 95th minute... from penalty. >:(
Nice to read outside my country the exact denomination about my favourite team since I was a little child...
Quote from: CTG on November 04, 2008, 10:44:27 PM
There's something in the air: (...) CFR Cluj in Champions League
Cluj is not so good, they lost twice versus Bordeaux. ;D
Quote from: Krys TOFF on November 06, 2008, 12:06:38 PM
Quote from: CTG on November 04, 2008, 10:44:27 PM
There's something in the air: (...) CFR Cluj in Champions League
Cluj is not so good, they lost twice versus Bordeaux. ;D
But did you think 2 years ago, that CFR Cluj will be a noble opponent of any European top teams?
Quote from: CTG on November 06, 2008, 12:10:23 PM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on November 06, 2008, 12:06:38 PM
Quote from: CTG on November 04, 2008, 10:44:27 PM
There's something in the air: (...) CFR Cluj in Champions League
Cluj is not so good, they lost twice versus Bordeaux. ;D
But did you think 2 years ago, that CFR Cluj will be a noble opponent of any European top teams?
No, and I still don't think they are. ;D Beeing lucky in 1 or 2 matchs is not enough to pretend to be a good European competitor. Same comment apply for Bordeaux too anyway. ;)
In last years, only Lyon proved to be consistent in European level. Sometimes another French team manage to be good, but they are not consistent (Monaco, Marseille, Bordeaux, ...).
Lyon is like Marseille was 15 years ago : easily dominating French championship and regularly good in European competitions. Other French teams are not good enough to pretend anything but be sparing partners of good European teams.
Quote from: Krys TOFF on November 06, 2008, 12:18:11 PM
In last years, only Lyon proved to be consistent in European level. Sometimes another French team manage to be good, but they are not consistent (Monaco, Marseille, Bordeaux, ...).
Lyon is like Marseille was 15 years ago : easily dominating French championship and regularly good in European competitions. Other French teams are not good enough to pretend anything but be sparing partners of good European teams.
My favorite French team will be always PSG - they played quite well in the 90's. Nowadays... well, it's better not to mention. :-\
lol, PSG.
PSG means Paris-Saint-Germain, but now it's often mentionned as "Pas Sûrs de Gagner" (meaning "not sure to win"). ;D :D
Btw which teams do you like/hate the most in European leagues?
Spain
Favorites: Atletico Madrid, FC Barcelona
Hate: Real Madrid
England
Favorites: Aston Villa, Arsenal
Hate: Manchester United, Chelsea
Germany
Favorites: Hertha BSC, VfB Stuttgart
Hate: Bayern Münhen (Borussia Dortmund is not so hateful since Tamás Hajnal plays there)
Italy
Favorites: AS Roma, AC Milan, Napoli
Hate: none of them, maybe Fiorentina a bit
Netherlands
Favorites: AZ Alkmaar, Feyenoord
Hate: none of them, maybe Ajax a bit
Portugal
Favorites: Benfica, Braga
Hate: none of them
France
Favorites: PSG, OM
Hate: none of them
Russia
Favorite: Zenit "Leningrad" ;D, Sojuz Gazprom Izhevsk (2nd class)
Hate: none of them
Romania
Favorite: none of them
Hate: all, especially Bucarest teams ;D
Turkey
Favorite: Galatasaray
Hate: Fenerbahce
Some other teams I like in Europe: IFK Göteborg (SWE), Sturm Graz (AUT), Wisla Krakow (POL), Anderlecht (BEL), FC Vaduz (LIH, for beating Újpest in UEFA Cup qualifiers ;D).
and last but not least... Hungary
Favorites: Györi ETO, Szombathelyi Haladás
Hate: Újpest, Vasas, REAC, Debrecen, Fehérvár, ZTE...
To be honest, I don't watch every football league... about the ones I watched:
England:
Fav: Arsenal (A legacy of Arsenal's great football, with Henry, Pires...)
Hate: The other big dogs (Liverpool not so much)
Spain:
Fav: Barça (Because of Messi, he), Virralleal (Since they kicked Riquelme out) and Sevilla
Hate: R. Madrid, Ath. Bilbao (They only hire Vasc players, that stupid!)
Italy:
Fav: Milan, Fiore (Legacy from Bati's time)
Hate: Inter (Mark won't like it) and Juve of course
Netherlands:
Fav: Ajax (They played great football back in the 90's
Hate: PSV
The other leagues are boring (specialy Scottish), so I don't watch them.
Only a few favorites for me : Arsenal, FC Barcelona and AS Roma, for their "fighting spirit" and often nice to watch football. I don't hate any special team, most af them just let me indifferent.
Apart from that, it seems Bayern Munich is more interesting when Ribery plays than when he is not (just like French team, he brings movements in the forward, which is always interesting). I'll have to see some match of them someday.
Quote from: Krys TOFF on November 06, 2008, 03:48:13 PM
Only a few favorites for me : Arsenal, FC Barcelona and AS Roma, for their "fighting spirit" and often nice to watch football. I don't hate any special team, most af them just let me indifferent.
Apart from that, it seems Bayern Munich is more interesting when Ribery plays than when he is not (just like French team, he brings movements in the forward, which is always interesting). I'll have to see some match of them someday.
Damn I forgot AS Roma as a favorite, shame on me. :D
roma has a female president, i hate them
like: juve, barca, villarreal
hate: mu, pool, chelsea, arsenal, celtic, rangers, dortmund, roma
Quote from: Akoss Poo on November 06, 2008, 06:30:55 PM
roma has a female president, i hate them
Who cares, I don't like a team for their president, but for the players and the football style they decide to play. That's why I like Roma and that's why I don't like Juventus.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on November 06, 2008, 06:30:55 PM
roma has a female president, i hate them
But she's fuckable... ;D (okay, maybe she WAS fuckable 5-10 years ago)
(http://static.nemzetisport.hu/db/0A/A5/d00064AA551e10b6ebf74.jpg)
Quote from: Chulk on November 06, 2008, 01:40:23 PM
...Virralleal...
Of course I meant Villarreal... and I also forgot I like Valencia a lot (Mainly for Villa and Joaquin) and I've always liked them.
Nobody mentioned any teams from SA, why would that be? Mines are...
Like: Gimnasia y Esgrima de La Plata (My team!)
Hate: Estudiantes de La Plata (Guess why...), Boca Jrs. and every Brazilian team ;)
Quote from: Chulk on November 07, 2008, 12:02:35 AM
Quote from: Chulk on November 06, 2008, 01:40:23 PM
...Virralleal...
Of course I meant Villarreal... and I also forgot I like Valencia a lot (Mainly for Villa and Joaquin) and I've always liked them.
Just now:
Valencia - FC København 1 - 1
Good result for FCK. Too bad they sucked vs Saint Etienne (hmm, funny, I'm listening to Saint Etienne while I'm writing this).
On liked and disliked teams... back a few years ago I used to have much more polarized opinions on that. Nowadays I don't think I truly hate any European club, and even my despise towards local arch-rivals Corinthians mellowed a bit into something more light-hearted (perhaps due to they spending 2008 season at the Second Division? :D). Anyway, teams that have my favour include:
- Spain: Barcelona (maybe the closest I get to actual loyalty for an European club)
- Italy: Roma, and Fiorentina to a lesser extent
- England: Liverpool (even if I don't really have a problem with Man. Utd.) and Arsenal
- France: Lyon (that actually predates their complete domination of French league)
- Germany: neutral...
- Argentina: no comments :)
And of course...
- Brazil: São Paulo Futebol Clube 8)
I also have some esteem left to spare for Flamengo, the team my father supports (obviously not a local rival)
Good for Inter passed to semi finals of Sudamerican Cup!
Now its Inter (BRA) vs Chivas (MEX) and Estudiantes (ARG) vs Argentinos Jrs.(ARG)
50% possibilities that the cup stays in Argentina :)
Quote from: Rotoi on November 07, 2008, 07:53:53 AM
Good for Inter passed to semi finals of Sudamerican Cup!
Now its Inter (BRA) vs Chivas (MEX) and Estudiantes (ARG) vs Argentinos Jrs.(ARG)
50% possibilities that the cup stays in Argentina :)
Yes, but when River was beating Chivas 2-0, we had 75% chances.
I saw both matches but River vs Chivas was far away the best. It was an awesome play for River.
But they are like Racing was last season. Even if they play a great match, they feel they won't win...
yeah, racing feeling :'( :'(
Quote from: Rotoi on November 08, 2008, 04:53:07 AM
yeah, racing feeling :'( :'(
But you're doing good now. We don't have a chance to get out of "Promocion". Let's hope we can at least get out of "Descenso Directo" (Too long and complicated relegation system to explain)
BTW: My loved Gimnasia y Esgrima de La Plata is the oldest club in America (born 3/June/1887)
Maradona's Argentina 1 - Scothland 0
Argentina played a good match, always in control of the game. We started playing great football for the first 25 mins, then the team just relaxed a bit and had the ball but coouldn't create chances to score. Scotland did what they usually do, defend with 8-9 players, and counter-attack using the wings and centering the ball for his big FW (McFadden in this case). Only 1 or 2 risky moves by Scotland but nothing more while it seems that Argentina could score anytime they wanted to.
Big difference from Basile's soulless team to Maradona's intention to play fast, short, low passes. An example of it is the great goal, scored by a player Basile never liked, Maxi Rodriguez (he was Argentina's best in Germany '06, he scored that great goal against Mexico). We still have to see how the team will play when Messi, Riquelme, Agüero are available to play, but this debut was a lot different than matches Basile played against similar teams, where Argentina suffered a lot (Algeria, Norway)
What's more, Brazil also played yesterday vs. Portugal (in Gama, a city neighbour to Brasilia), and guess what, we played a great game, with flair and effectiveness: 6-2! That would be unbelieavble under any circumstances a few days ago...
Quote from: Chulk on November 20, 2008, 08:33:08 PM
(...) but this debut was a lot different than matches Basile played against similar teams, where Argentina suffered a lot (Algeria, Norway)
With Brazil it does not seem to be too different from those issues: if the opposing team plays a deadlock, the creation/attack fails completely, even if it is Bolivia at home or something like that... ::)
Hungary - Northern Ireland 2-0
We are still a crappy team but at least I can see some improvements. Koeman seems to be a good trainer.
Quote from: Duplode on November 21, 2008, 12:38:13 AM
What's more, Brazil also played yesterday vs. Portugal (in Gama, a city neighbour to Brasilia), and guess what, we played a great game, with falir and effectiveness: 6-2!
Nice! I loved to see Ronaldo's Portugal get kicked! (Even if it means Brazil played great football)
Where Koerman is from?
Quote from: Rotoi on November 22, 2008, 10:18:17 PM
Where Koerman is from?
he's Dutch. i also consider him a good trainer, well suits the imporving Hungarian team. watch out for Hajnal's performance in Borussia Dortmund! :D
Second Division, East:
1. Ferencvárosi TC 15 11 3 1 44–11 +33 36
2. Böcs KSC 15 10 3 2 38–13 +25 33
3. Debreceni VSC II-DEAC 15 9 2 4 30–20 +10 29
4. Ceglédi VSE 15 7 4 4 21–20 +1 25
5. BKV Elöre SC 15 6 6 3 27–19 +8 24
6. Kazincbarcika 15 6 5 4 22–23 –1 23
7. Makó FC 15 6 3 6 33–29 +4 21
8. MTK Budapest II 15 6 3 6 20–22 –2 21
9. Békéscsaba 15 6 1 8 27–39 –12 19
10. Baktalórántháza 15 6 1 8 18–31 –13 19
11. Szolnoki MÁV-Mondi 15 5 4 6 20–25 –5 19
12. Vác-Újbuda 15 4 4 7 33–32 +1 16
13. Jászberényi SE 15 4 4 7 21–25 –4 16
14. Vecsés FC 15 3 5 7 23–28 –5 14
15. ESMTK 15 3 3 9 24–30 –6 12
16. Tököl 15 2 1 12 15–49 –34 7
First division:
1. Debreceni VSC-TEVA 15 10 3 2 33-14 +19 33
2. Újpest FC 15 8 6 1 27-17 +10 30
3. Vasas 15 9 1 5 27-23 +4 28
4. Szombathelyi Haladás 15 7 3 5 22-13 +9 24
5. Nyíregyháza Spartacus 15 6 6 3 20-14 +6 24
6. ZTE FC 15 6 4 5 25-22 +3 22
7. Gabona Trans-Kaposvár 15 6 3 6 26-21 +5 21
8. Kecskeméti TE-ERECO 15 6 3 6 23-19 +4 21
9. FC Fehérvár 15 6 3 6 17-19 -2 21
10. MTK Budapest 15 5 4 6 20-22 -2 19
11. Budapest Honvéd 15 5 4 6 22-25 -3 19
12. Diósgyöri VTK 15 5 4 6 17-26 -9 19
13. Györi ETO FC 15 5 3 7 23-19 +4 18
14. Paksi FC 15 5 3 7 21-31 -10 18
15. BFC Siófok 15 2 2 11 9-27 -18 8
16. REAC 15 2 2 11 19-39 -20 8
Second division, West:
1. Gyirmót SE 15 10 3 2 26–7 +19 33
2. PMFC 15 10 2 3 27–13 +14 32
3. Kaposvölgye VSC 15 9 2 4 23–19 +4 29
4. FC Tatabánya 15 7 3 5 23–15 +8 24
5. ZTE FC II 15 7 2 6 26–20 +6 23
6. Lombard Pápa FC 15 6 5 4 19–14 +5 23
7. Felcsút FC 15 6 4 5 22–16 +6 22
8. Kozármisleny SE 15 6 4 5 23–22 +1 22
9. Budaörs 15 6 3 6 25–26 –1 21
10. FC Ajka 15 5 6 4 17–15 +2 21
11. Györi ETO FC II 15 6 2 7 31–30 +1 20
12. Százhalombatta 15 4 3 8 11–22 –11 15
13. Integrál-DAC 15 3 5 7 13–16 –3 14
14. Bajai LSE 15 3 5 7 19–26 –7 14
15. Dunaújváros FC 15 4 1 10 16–36 –20 13
16. Barcsi SC 15 1 4 10 13–37 –24 7
Quote from: Akoss Poo on November 22, 2008, 10:58:31 PM
10. MTK Budapest 15 5 4 6 20-22 -2 19
13. Györi ETO FC 15 5 3 7 23-19 +4 18
Very disappointing performance from the champion and the bronze medalist of the last season... :-\
Quote from: Akoss Poo on November 22, 2008, 10:58:31 PM
Second division, West:
1. Gyirmót SE 15 10 3 2 26–7 +19 33
11. Györi ETO FC II 15 6 2 7 31–30 +1 20
13. Integrál-DAC 15 3 5 7 13–16 –3 14
Three teams from my hometown, Gyirmót has a pretty good chance to qualify to the first class. They won't but still a strong team in second class. :)
UEFA Champions League
Qualified to knockout phase (group winners with bold):
AS Roma, Chelsea, Panathinaikos, Internazionale, Barcelona, Sporting CP, Liverpool, Atlético Madrid, Manchester United, Villarreal, Bayern München, Olympique Lyon, FC Porto, Arsenal, Juventus, Real Madrid
4 - England
4 - Spain
3 - Italy
2 - Portugal
1 - France
1 - Germany
1 - Greece
No real surprise... Poor Anorthosis Famagusta, they lost by a single funny goal versus Panathinaikos (stupid reserve goalkeeper's fault, he's Hungarian...), losing the chance to continue in UEFA Cup. Zenit was the negative surprise for me: after the latest results of Russian football I expected a lot more. Arshavin is not THAT good...
To UEFA Cup (3rd place in the groups): Girondins Bordeaux, Werder Bremen, Sahtar Doneck, Olympique Marseille, Aalborg, Fiorentina, Dinamo Kiev, Zenit St. Petersburg
2 - France
2 - Ukraine
1 - Denmark
1 - Germany
1 - Italy
1 - Russia
The fallen teams: CFR Cluj, Anorthosis Famagusta, FC Basel, PSV Eindhoven, Glasgow Celtic, Steaua Bucarest, Fenerbahce, BATE Borisov
2 - Romania
1 - Belarus
1 - Cyprus
1 - Netherlands (what happened to Dutch football? :-\)
1 - Scotland
1 - Switzerland
1 - Turkey
Please note yesterday's result:
Manchester United - AaB 2-2
MU did save some players for the forthcoming league game, but look at their players:
(Tomasz Kuszczak, Gary Neville (76: Rafael), Rio Ferdinand, Jonny Evans, John O'Shea, Darron Gibson (46: Ji-Sung Park), Ryan Giggs (46: Paul Scholes), Anderson, Nani, Wayne Rooney, Carlos Tevez.)
This match was also not complete pointless. MU only won the group because Villareal lost in Glasgow at the same time.
So, at the end of the day, AaB was the only of the 4 "small teams" (AaB, BATE Borisov, CFR Cluj, Anorthosis) that made it to the 3rd place and further participation in the UEFA cup.
Anorthosis is a lot smaller team than AaB but they were closer to qualify to the knockout phase (in points).
Zlatan's Magic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EIAdBARHD8&feature=related)
Groso este tipo
Zlatan is not my favorite player and I was really polite with this... ;D
Quote from: Chulk on December 14, 2008, 08:20:46 AM
Zlatan's Magic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EIAdBARHD8&feature=related)
He's really a great player, a not only because he plays in my favourite team... ;)
Not so bad season for the Hungarian national team after Koeman's arrival... :) Qualifications to World Cup 2010 are with bold.
Hungary - Slovakia 1-1
Hungary - Slovenia 0-1
Motherfucker Várhidi's performance: 0-1-1; 1-2; 16.7% (his record is 7-1-8 with 2007 results, victories mainly from the friendly matches)
Hungary - Greece 3-2
Hungary - Croatia 1-1
Hungary - Montenegro 3-3
Hungary - Denmark 0-0
Sweden - Hungary 2-1
Hungary - Albania 2-0
Malta - Hungary 0-1
Northern Ireland - Hungary 0-2
Koeman's performance: 4-3-1, 13-8, 62.5%
Yeah, right! (http://www.sportsya.com/english/news.php/French_striker_Frank_Ribery_compared_himself_with_Lionel_Messi.html?id=196853&id_estruc=347)