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UnskilledStunts Championship => Month`s Tracks - USC => Topic started by: CTG on October 30, 2008, 10:46:53 AM

Title: Dobsina (USC 58)
Post by: CTG on October 30, 2008, 10:46:53 AM
Lancia track by Akoss Poo... Coming next week!  ;)
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on November 08, 2008, 01:00:49 PM
Akoss did not upload any tracks here, although I asked him. No problem because of my computer problems but still strange...
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 09, 2008, 05:14:10 PM
New track is here. Sorry for being late, but CTG asked me only on Thursday to build a track for Friday. I'm not a stunts addict like him, so I could only build it for today. Tracik is for Lancia, no special rules. It wanted to be a bit shorter, but I hope you will enjoy racing on it.

I would like to race, too, but I can't, because of the ache in my right hand (now typing only with the left). Hope it will ease soon.

CTG is facing computer breakdown due to a small accident, he is away a bit, let's hope the competetion manager will come back soon, too.

So, fasten your seatbelt, and drive!
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Duplode on November 09, 2008, 05:27:58 PM
Thanks Akoss! Last time we had a Lancia track of yours I had my worst race ever result-wise, hopefully I'll be able to do a bit better this time.  ;D And no way you can be considered late - For instance, I don't think that, even when I have lots of available time, I can design, build, test, and finish  a good competition track in less than three days... 
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: BonzaiJoe on November 09, 2008, 07:24:23 PM
I love your online fighting in 3rd person  ;D

What's up with your hand, Akoss? If it's the same thing I had, you need to rest your hand COMPLETELY.
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on November 09, 2008, 10:11:44 PM
Akoss: thanks!

Of course the track is already in action! ;)
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Duplode on November 11, 2008, 01:10:37 PM
Long and painful... :o for the moment, I'll be really pleased if I get to perform a better race here than in Ózd...
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on November 11, 2008, 02:10:16 PM
Quote from: Duplode on November 11, 2008, 01:10:37 PM
Long and painful... :o for the moment, I'll be really pleased if I get to perform a better race here than in Ózd...

For God's sake, I told Akoss (in October) to make a SHORTER track! :-\

Duplode: how long is it? I haven't seen the track yet...
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Duplode on November 11, 2008, 02:16:15 PM
My (weak) initial lap is already on your mailbox. It's 2:02.20...
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on November 11, 2008, 02:18:07 PM
Quote from: Duplode on November 11, 2008, 02:16:15 PM
My (weak) initial lap is already on your mailbox. It's 2:02.20...

Oh my God!!!  :o

I'll try to access my web files with some kind of editor program this week and update the site.
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on November 11, 2008, 02:19:38 PM
I haven't tried it yet, but I saw it with TB. It appears very hard, demanding a lot of time in order to maximize the various tracts wherewith perfect and extreme slides are needed.

Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on November 11, 2008, 02:39:02 PM
Quote from: Mark L. Rivers on November 11, 2008, 02:19:38 PM
I haven't tried it yet, but I saw it with TB. It appears very hard, demanding a lot of time in order to maximize the various tracts wherewith perfect and extreme slides are needed.

So it will be a strange race: Duplode dislikes the car/track combo, BJ is bored of Lancia, Mark has quite a mixed opinion about it, CTG can't participate with serious racing... I really wonder about the final scoreboard...

I just realized: no deadline date is published. Let's say it's 5th December 2008, midnight.
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: AbuRaf70 on November 11, 2008, 03:48:18 PM
De donde puedo bajar la pista...?
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: BonzaiJoe on November 11, 2008, 03:50:22 PM
From this thread... Akoss' post.
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: AbuRaf70 on November 11, 2008, 03:59:00 PM
Muchas gracias, Bonzai...  pero como no encuentro el Akoss post...  podrías hacerme el favar de adjuntar el link...?   gracias de nuevo...
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: BonzaiJoe on November 11, 2008, 04:03:37 PM
It's right up there though (just scroll up...)

But anyway, here's the track again :)

Maybe attachments don't function for you?
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: BonzaiJoe on November 11, 2008, 04:03:57 PM
And 2.02 wasn't something I could beat in 10 minutes...
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on November 11, 2008, 04:06:28 PM
Track sent to everybody in e-mail... ;)
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: AbuRaf70 on November 11, 2008, 04:14:18 PM
Muchas gracias, CTG y Bonzai...
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on November 12, 2008, 12:53:53 PM
Tonight I'm going to try the track. I really wonder about it...
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: SuperBrian on November 12, 2008, 02:50:06 PM
Well I'm actually pretty fond of the Lancia, but I'm not very happy about the track.
Hmmmm....

See you on the scoreboard soon..
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on November 12, 2008, 04:18:50 PM
Playing with auto gears at the university office, always keeping an eye on the entrance... :D This track is really long: some parts are splendid - some of them are just extra boring.


Official scoreboard of Dobsina


no   name               time               gap          pts
1CTG1:58.85---16
2Duplode2:02.20+ 3.3514


Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on November 17, 2008, 12:37:43 PM
Come on guys, track is active! I know that "blind" racing sucks but still... Does it help if I try to update the site tonight? ;)
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Duplode on November 17, 2008, 03:14:52 PM
Quote from: CTG on November 17, 2008, 12:37:43 PM
Come on guys, track is active! I know that "blind" racing sucks but still... Does it help if I try to update the site tonight? ;)

Maybe it will, especially if there are any new replays  :) I considered trying to improve a bit on the weekend, but there are so many intimidating hard sections I haven't done properly on my current replay that I didn't knew where to start...
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on November 17, 2008, 03:32:26 PM
Quote from: Duplode on November 17, 2008, 03:14:52 PM
Quote from: CTG on November 17, 2008, 12:37:43 PM
Come on guys, track is active! I know that "blind" racing sucks but still... Does it help if I try to update the site tonight? ;)

Maybe it will, especially if there are any new replays  :)

There are no new replays so far... :-\ The problem is that I can't install my webeditor to any of the computers 'cause the crack is infected by a virus (this university PC doesn't even allow me to open that .exe -  while I also don't want to infect Böbszlee's computer). I have bad experiences with editing Namo's HTML files with other webeditors, so... :(

Will we see the worst race in USC history?
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Krys TOFF on November 17, 2008, 03:40:14 PM
Quote from: CTGI have bad experiences with editing Namo's HTML files with other webeditors, so... :(
Then simply use Notepad++, you won't get any issue. ;)
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: zaqrack on November 17, 2008, 03:41:18 PM
I guess CTG needs a WYSIWYG editor.
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Krys TOFF on November 17, 2008, 03:44:21 PM
Not to simply add names and times I think. Just copy and paste a previous time and modify name and time. Simple and efficient. 8)
Or check for another crack with Google.
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Duplode on November 17, 2008, 03:47:58 PM
Well, I know virtually nothing about HTML edition and do not try such software since maybe five years ago, but you might want to check a portable WYSIWYG editor available at PortableApps (an useful site to bookmark, BTW): http://portableapps.com/apps/development/nvu_portable
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Krys TOFF on November 17, 2008, 04:04:57 PM
Useful website, I took the portable version of Notepad++ (http://portableapps.com/news/2008-11-12_-_notepadpp_portable_5.1.1).
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: zaqrack on November 17, 2008, 04:16:36 PM
Quote from: Duplode on November 17, 2008, 03:47:58 PM
Well, I know virtually nothing about HTML edition and do not try such software since maybe five years ago, but you might want to check a portable WYSIWYG editor available at PortableApps (an useful site to bookmark, BTW): http://portableapps.com/apps/development/nvu_portable

how could I forget! I used NVU at my previous workplace and it rocks. It also has an updated version with better CSS handling, named Kompozer: http://kompozer.net/
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on November 17, 2008, 06:49:08 PM
Finally a new replay arrived... Super Brian tasted the track and sent a mediorce time. He can do it a lot better I guess...

Official scoreboard of Dobsina


no   name               time               gap          pts
1CTG1:58.85---16
2Duplode2:02.20+ 3.3514
3Super Brian2:14.20+15.3512
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Chulk on November 18, 2008, 10:14:45 PM
First run on the track, almost NoRH.
Un-Official scoreboard of Dobsina


no   name               time               gap          pts
1CTG1:58.85---16
2Duplode2:02.20+ 3.3514
3Super Brian2:14.20+15.3512
4Chulk2:21.60+22.7510
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on November 19, 2008, 12:18:10 AM
OFFICIAL UPDATE OF USC SITE IN THE AFTERNOON! (99%)

After the big presentation... ;)
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on November 19, 2008, 03:38:42 PM
Quote from: CTG on November 19, 2008, 12:18:10 AM
OFFICIAL UPDATE OF USC SITE IN THE AFTERNOON! (99%)

After the big presentation... ;)

Quick update with Dobsina standings and the point table. All the other refreshing tasks are secondary at the moment.

Edit: RH stats and WRL are also updated, Arad analysis... well... that's what I can't do at workplace. :D
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on November 21, 2008, 10:30:17 AM
Official scoreboard of Dobsina


no   name               time               gap          pts
1CTG1:54.55---16
2Duplode2:02.20+ 7.6514
3Super Brian2:14.20+19.6512
4AbuRaf 702:17.45+22.9010
5Chulk2:21.60+28.058

Key part is the jump-jump-bridge corner-cork down part: in my 1:58.85 it was quite nice - my new replay is 5-5.5 seconds faster at that point but losing way too much speed to improve...  :-\

Edit: still a crappy key part but finally improved a bit...
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 21, 2008, 09:32:14 PM
Quote from: CTG on November 21, 2008, 10:30:17 AMKey part is the jump-jump-bridge corner-cork down part

as expected ;D
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 22, 2008, 11:07:32 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on November 09, 2008, 07:24:23 PM
I love your online fighting in 3rd person  ;D

What's up with your hand, Akoss? If it's the same thing I had, you need to rest your hand COMPLETELY.

It's in plaster now. Hoping for early relief. Now typing with left hand. Don't wanna miss community life. I'd like to race Dobsina, too, but I can't. Check some info of this very beautiful place (which is famous for its ice cave) of Hungarian Motherland: http://www.showcaves.com/english/sk/showcaves/DobsinskaLadova.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dob%C5%A1in%C3%A1
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on November 26, 2008, 10:10:53 AM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on November 21, 2008, 09:32:14 PM
Quote from: CTG on November 21, 2008, 10:30:17 AMKey part is the jump-jump-bridge corner-cork down part

as expected ;D

But did you expect 20 seconds difference between the pro and the beginner solution? :D

No replays for ages and only 5 pipsqueaks so far. Where are you, guys? :-\
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: BonzaiJoe on November 26, 2008, 05:07:09 PM
I'll do Zakstunts first, then USC. (but I'm not racing a lot at the moment)
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on November 26, 2008, 08:50:50 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on November 26, 2008, 05:07:09 PM
I'm not racing a lot at the moment

If you check the leading time of Dobsina, you will realize it's kidplay to beat by 5-10 seconds.
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: BonzaiJoe on November 26, 2008, 09:10:27 PM
Then I would have to improve my test lap by 25 seconds.

Don't worry, I will race, just not yet.
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on November 28, 2008, 10:18:53 PM
Newbie with problems: Fredmen67 sent an invalid replay (unfinished).
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on December 02, 2008, 06:11:32 PM
New replays by Duplode and me. First half of my replay sucks, the key part is excellent. With a lucky finish I should go slightly under 1:50.

Official scoreboard of Dobsina


no   name               time               gap          pts
1CTG1:50.30---16
2Duplode1:59.05+ 8.7514
3Super Brian2:14.20+23.9012
4AbuRaf 702:17.45+27.1510
5Chulk2:21.60+31.308
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Chulk on December 03, 2008, 02:18:30 AM
When is Dobsina's deadline? I can't enter the site, don't know why...
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Duplode on December 03, 2008, 03:26:30 AM
The race will end in (from now) 2 days, 20 hours and 33 minutes - Friday-to-Saturday midnight in Hungarian time.
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on December 03, 2008, 09:17:09 AM
Quote from: Chulk on December 03, 2008, 02:18:30 AM
When is Dobsina's deadline? I can't enter the site, don't know why...

5th December 2008, midnight. You have 62 hours and 43 minutes left. ;) Edit: Whoops I just discovered the previous answer of Duplode. :)

Dunno what's the problem with the site, it's working for me. Anyway there's an alternative link too: http://unskilled.tvn.hu
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on December 03, 2008, 03:25:14 PM
6... It's getting less and less embarrassing - but I hope to see even more pipsqueaks. ;)

Official scoreboard of Dobsina


no   name               time               gap          pts
1CTG1:50.30---16
2Duplode1:59.05+ 8.7514
3Super Brian2:14.20+23.9012
4AbuRaf 702:17.45+27.1510
5Chulk2:21.60+31.308
6dstien2:27.05+36.756
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 03, 2008, 04:55:45 PM

Wait for my replay, even if don't expect a win... you know, Lancia is a slow car...
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on December 05, 2008, 03:12:29 PM
Great to hear your participation!

Quote from: Mark L. Rivers on December 03, 2008, 04:55:45 PM
you know, Lancia is a slow car...

Not THAT slow, sometimes it hits 200 mph and even more. ;)

Edit: my final time is on the scoreboard (site updated with RH/noRH stats and WRL)

Edit #2: Super Brian is flying! He broke the 2 minutes limit and came up to second! WOW!

Edit #3: another Danish on the podium, Bonzai Joe just ahead of Super Brian.

Edit #4: Chulk made a great, 18 seconds improvement but it means only one step higher, overtaking AbuRaf.

Edit #5: Krys is also in the race. 8 pipsqueaks. Not so bad. :)


Official scoreboard of Dobsina


no   name               time               gap          pts
1CTG1:49.90---16
2Bonzai Joe1:57.10+ 7.2014
3Super Brian1:58.30+ 8.4012
4Duplode1:59.05+ 9.1510
5Chulk2:03.30+13.408
6AbuRaf 702:17.45+27.556
7Krys Toff2:21.90+32.004
8dstien2:27.05+37.152
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 05, 2008, 04:33:47 PM
I raced only yesterday and won't be home tonight, no time to perform THE trick of the track that is worth, roughly, 15-20 seconds.
Congrats to SuperBrian, he did THIS trick. Well done partner, I'm proud of your performance. I hope you'll keep the podium, you deserve it.
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: BonzaiJoe on December 05, 2008, 07:17:13 PM
Whoa, SuperBrian, very nice!

By the way, none of the tricks I do in this track are worth 15-20 seconds...
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on December 05, 2008, 11:04:17 PM
We have a potential winner beating my time heavily. Maybe another pipsqueak will also do it. Or two... :) (I promised no updates so this one is just oil in the fire... :D)
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on December 06, 2008, 12:13:50 AM
We have the winner. 95 percent. That 5 covers the e-mail delays. Update: around 1 am, if the firewall allows me using the virus infected Namo WebEditor from my old HDD. If not: afternoon (from the lab).
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on December 06, 2008, 01:20:18 AM
Dobsina final results & replays, WRL, stats, wiki medal table are updated! ;)

Congratulations to Mark L. Rivers, well deserved victory: his winning lap is quite strong with making THE TRICK. CTG made about the same replay just a lot slower: before 1:20 it was just very pure minimalist RH - analysis will show. :D Huge gaps thanks to the cork up/down... Special congratulations to Super Brian, splendid 4th place! BJ, Duplode: lazy bones! :P (motivating insult)

Now let's move to Eszék and make a bit more interesting race! ;)
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Chulk on December 06, 2008, 05:50:28 AM
Damn! If Mark had been just a bit slower, I would have 1 extra point. I regret not finding some more centiseconds in the bridges part...
I knew that cork jump was the key but after some tries, I gave up trying as I got bored...
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 06, 2008, 12:54:31 PM
Well, I know that my final time realized 2 days ago could be enough to win, but I thought that BJ or Duplode made a strong attack in the last hour... Better so!  ;)
I had realized 2 finished laps before. The first one (1:58,xx without sound) jumping on the right of the U/D corkscrew and rebounding until the road just before the bankroad. Last Monday (1st December) I re-drove the entire race overtaking the U/D corkscrew in the same way, obtaining 1:48,xx. But after that, I understand that I had chosen a bad way to approach the ice tract placed after 30 seconds of race, losing almost 2 seconds...  ::)  So I re-drove another time the track from the ice tract, succeeding to increase the advantage thanks to closing a bit more the 180 degrees (specular fast chicanes, I think I made that curve not bad) before the key-tract. This time I succeed to jump from the bridge of the U/D corkscrew landing on the bankroad with an advantage over 4 seconds on my previous attempt. But then, I didn't succeed to find the rebound I had found in my 2nd replay (between the ramps series) and so I arrived to the last tract before the loop with a lower speed. Anyway a final unexpcted cut has permitted me to close in 1:45,00.
Nice car/track combo, and nice race for me. I would have preferred a higher engagement from the other drivers, but... I'm satisfied for my race and my skill with Lancia...  ;)

P.S.  CTG, even Brazil is a nice nation that I find very charming, I think that the tag "ITA" beside my name on the scoreboard sounds more suitable...  :D  ;) :)

Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Duplode on December 06, 2008, 08:05:16 PM
Mark did really catch all of us by surprise - I think "classy" and "stylish", as CTG wrote on the USC news, is really the best adjective for describing it.  8) But the pipsqueak I'm really amazed by this time is SuperBrian! His lap is very solid, and the result is even more impressive after noticing it was not only done with autogears, but also without either of the loopcuts... despite narrowly missing the third place this time, he is very likely to become a regular podium visitor as soon as he completes the switch to manuals. Congratulations Brian!  ;)

Quote from: CTG on December 06, 2008, 01:20:18 AM
BJ, Duplode: lazy bones! :P (motivating insult)

Well, it seems BJ was the one able to make lazy racing more effective this time  :) The comparison between our section times will be interesting - I want to find whether I dropped those two seconds due to technical or tactical reasons.
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on December 06, 2008, 09:58:18 PM
Analysis: I can promise anything but probably it won't become true in 2 days or so. But I'm also very interested in the section times: Mark was ahead by 5.5 seconds before the jumps (around 1:20) and also 5.5 seconds at the last loop (4.90 at the end). On the other hand Super Brian was faster than me in certain sections before the cork part - with auto gears! :D  :o  ::)
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: AbuRaf70 on December 06, 2008, 11:20:52 PM
Excepcional tiempo final de Mark, con un manejo impecable, extrayendo del Lancia todo su potencial en cada parte de la pista...  FELICITACIONES MAESTRO...!!!

Un poco más atrás, quedaron CTG y BJ, tomados por sorpresa, tal vez...

Pero la verdadera sorpresa la dió SuperBrian, con un sorprendente replay que lo ubicó en el 4º lugar...  enhorabuena...!!!
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: BonzaiJoe on December 06, 2008, 11:39:05 PM
Great replay, Mark L. and great second half, CTG (1st half is truly awful...). Also very nice performance from SuperBrian! But still much improvement to be made, as Mark's replay shows (to all of us.)
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 07, 2008, 07:46:15 AM

Thanks CTG, Duplode, AbuRaf70 and BJ for your congratulations!  :)  I didn't expect a so high performance with Lancia, even if last USC season I caught a nice podium behind Dottore and Argammon with the same car on a track of the same designer... Maybe with the next same track designer/car combo I'll start with more conviction about my potential...  ;)

Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: SuperBrian on December 08, 2008, 03:25:08 PM
I'll start with Mark. Really a nice replay with such a huge gap to all of us. Congratulations!
Further, I had no idea that my time was that good, but I knew I could beat duplode if he lost his interest in making his last time better, lucky me. I'm also looking forward to switch to manuelgearing, and I'll do whatever I can, but maybe you wont see a final replay in manual just around the corner, but I certainly hope so. Especially with Porsche March Indy and the new Eszék track..
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 08, 2008, 03:56:54 PM

Quote from: SuperBrian on December 08, 2008, 03:25:08 PM
I'll start with Mark. Really a nice replay with such a huge gap to all of us. Congratulations!

Thanks SuperBrian!  :)
And congratulations to you too! I'm looking forward and I see many podiums for you when you'll drive changing the gears in the moment you want to do it...  ;)



Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: CTG on December 10, 2008, 07:01:17 PM
Finally! Dobsina analysis is available: Mark ruled the race in general but won only 3 sectors from the 9 (another 3 by Duplode and CTG). Sectors aren't really equal in length: I made really long sections before the tricky part (quite boring, huh?) and small ones for the last part.

The first minute of the track was totally useless. :D
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Duplode on December 10, 2008, 09:39:16 PM
Weird race this one - I still can't believe I actually won one third of the sectors, even if those were the "totally useless" ones :D At least I can say this time I didn't really try to max out the uglier sectors... ;D Even so, it seems I lost to BJ and Brian due to two bad tactical calls I didn't correct in time: trying to cut the fast hairpin part at ~1:15 by the outside (it should be clear that it was impossible to keep any extra speed when entering the tunnel) and doing a very long outer loopcut before the finish line (that was mostly due lack of patience).
Title: Re: Dobsina
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 10, 2008, 10:26:36 PM

Four seconds gained between 20" and 40"... Beside key tract, I think I won because, after a early trial, I re-drove two times the whole track in last week... "Also" realizing always THE TRICK, sure....  ;)