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Krys Toff's Competitions => Feel The Thrill => Topic started by: Krys TOFF on December 03, 2008, 01:01:22 PM

Title: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 03, 2008, 01:01:22 PM
Last race of the season will be slightly delayed, as the website update with replays of FTT0109 (I still miss some of FTT0110) due to web access issues at home.
I can get to the database from my job but can't upload anything to the website as there's no ftp access, including the new active race page with new deadline (I still have to program a way to make it dynamic from the track deadline recorded in the database, once done and efficient this will not be an issue anymore but so far it still is).

FTT is an "open" competition with scoreboard updated as soon as a time is published and I don't want to upload the new track through the forum if people can't post their times.
I contacted my web provider and problem should be solved until the week end. Therefore, I officially declare that race time will still be 3 weeks but race start will be delayed by 1 week, so it means it will end 28th of December and not 21st.

Sorry for this unplanned delay. :-[
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 03, 2008, 04:38:59 PM
In order of

1) we have a very full month of races (Zak, USC, Jac, ISM),
2) final part of the month will see holidays for someone,
3) FTT0111 is the last race and fundamental for the title,
4) FTT0111 will be a multiway track, demanding more time in order to find the best path before to maxout it,
5) FTT site have still not LTB so it's not determinant publishing the times in the first days,

maybe you could anyway publish the track in this topic, declaring that last race is 25 days long instead of 21...
What do you think about?
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: CTG on December 03, 2008, 04:44:47 PM
1) we have a very full month of races (Zak, USC, Jac, ISM),

4 paralel competitions isn't very much, I remember sometimes we had more in the past. I promise to join FTT and JACS as soon as I fix my computer situation.  ;)
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Duplode on December 03, 2008, 06:11:04 PM
maybe you could anyway publish the track in this topic, declaring that last race is 25 days long instead of 21...
What do you think about?

I have no strong opinion about this suggestion, but I think there would be no problem in having the initial times published on the forum for a while.

1) we have a very full month of races (Zak, USC, Jac, ISM),

4 paralel competitions isn't very much, I remember sometimes we had more in the past. I promise to join FTT and JACS as soon as I fix my computer situation.  ;)

Maybe it isn't, but this month deadlines for FTT0111, Andhra (JAC#6) and Z90 will be on consecutive days, so it could be a bit annoying to race them all so close to the holidays... Nice to see you'll become a NoRH regular anyway  :)
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 05, 2008, 03:03:11 PM
Still no web at home but the phone was back this morning (why phone works and not ADSL web access ?!).
I'm not home tonight but I have hopes to see the web access back very soon, so here is the track I brought at work on a USB key.

Race starts on the Boulevard peripherique, close to the Bois de Vincennes. Then, what will be your choice ?
Will you stay on the Boulevard peripherique to stay on the longest, yet fast way ?
Will you turn left to Place de la Republique, then go through Buttes Chaumont
Or will you completely cut through Paris, racing close to Trocadero and take the Champs-Elysees (Stunts boulevard) before racing through the Arc de Triomphe (the lonely bridge) before reaching the 2 other ways at the Place de l'Etoile ?

Then, when reaching the opposite side of Paris, near La Defense, what will you do ?
Stay on the Boulevard peripherique once again, racing along the Bois de Boulogne ?
Or will you prefer to cut from the inside, using Boulevard de Grenelle close to the Tour Eiffel (the windmill) and the Parc du Champs de Mars to reach Montparnasse along to the Place d'Italie before going south to reach the finish part of the track on the Boulevard peripherique up to the finish line ?

Your choice. Have fun. ;)

Deadline for the track is confirmed 28th od December.
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 05, 2008, 04:22:18 PM

A thing is sure: all can happen...  :o
Anyway, very interesting and charming final for a great season!  :)

Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Chulk on December 05, 2008, 05:31:15 PM
Good thing you live in Paris. If you lived in La Plata, we would have a really boring track.

(http://www.cuadrasepelios.com.ar/mapa.jpg)
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 05, 2008, 07:10:03 PM
Awful city map. Looks like 95% of USA towns. :P :D
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Chulk on December 06, 2008, 06:15:12 AM
That is called "pre-designed" city. Easier and faster than most big cities in the world.
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: zaqrack on December 06, 2008, 08:23:42 AM
and its harder to get lost :)
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: zaqrack on December 06, 2008, 10:05:29 AM
OK, we have the track now, but what is the car?
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 06, 2008, 12:06:09 PM

The unique original car still not used this year: Indy!  :)

Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Chulk on December 06, 2008, 02:04:01 PM
and its harder to get lost :)
Specially if streets are numbered (and don't use names anymore).
BTW, notice we have a square every 6 blocks (apart from the horse racetrack and the forest) which means you are 600m away from a green space at the furthest. That's something not many cities in the world can say about their green spaces.
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Duplode on December 08, 2008, 01:46:45 AM
The obligatory question: Krys, is dual-way switching forbidden? Your track description on the news makes it feel that should be the case...
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 08, 2008, 07:47:52 AM

Oops... I had not thought about it...
I thought dual switching was permitted and I just made some test to find the absolute best path...  ::)

Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 08, 2008, 03:05:16 PM
FTT is not a shortcut-free competition. Feel free to do way-switching. ;)
I forgot to mention it here but website was partially updated yesterday, so you can post your times. Web access at haome came back friday during the day, but I wasn't home friday evening, nor most of the day sunday. I just too time to upload some files yesterday evening, I still have to do the replay part and (finally) implement the leading time system.
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 08, 2008, 03:53:58 PM
FTT is not a shortcut-free competition. Feel free to do way-switching. ;)

Yeah!  :)

Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 08, 2008, 10:23:38 PM
I posted my 1st time. I got 2'51" penalty time, lol ! :D
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Duplode on December 08, 2008, 10:31:19 PM
Yes, it's easy to get confused about which lines are valid...  :D First time posted as well anyway  ;)
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 08, 2008, 10:40:46 PM

Wow, Duplode! This is really the strongest opening lap I ever seen!  :o :o

Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Duplode on December 08, 2008, 10:44:59 PM
I really don't know if I can agree with that...  :)
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 08, 2008, 11:19:14 PM
Very good 1st time, but I think winning time will be around 5 seconds faster. ;)
edit : I posted another time. ;D 8)
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 09, 2008, 11:45:38 AM

 :o

Two possibilities:

1) I did a very awful test about dual switching options...
2) My final gap from Duplode will be higher than 8 points...

Thinking that, even if option 1 will be true, option 2 could be true anyway, I'm "a bit" mazed about this race...  ::)

OK, let's start to study the map in a "professional" mode...  ;)



Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 09, 2008, 12:00:26 PM
Quote from: Mark L. Rivers

 :o

I did a very awful test about dual switching options...
Mmmm, let me explain. You may not know that the indycar possess a feature we call "power gear", do you ? ;D
I think winning time can't be below 50 seconds, but 52 or 53 seconds seems realistic, my lap was not perfect, especially the beginning. But it will require some luck to reach it probably.
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 09, 2008, 02:17:31 PM
Quote from: Mark L. Rivers

 :o

I did a very awful test about dual switching options...
Mmmm, let me explain. You may not know that the indycar possess a feature we call "power gear", do you ? ;D
I think winning time can't be below 50 seconds, but 52 or 53 seconds seems realistic, my lap was not perfect, especially the beginning. But it will require some luck to reach it probably.

Power gear???? What's that???  :D

Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 10, 2008, 11:25:24 AM

Well, I have very, very, very big problems in order to find the best dual switching...  :o
My best RH time is 55,50. I found a way that permits me to arrive (in RH at the moment) in 51"70, but I take (absurdly, thinking of the usual Stunts internal rules about penalty) over 3 minutes of penalty...  ??? :-\ >:(
Just a question for who already tried the track: you have used the file attached in the Forum or the file downloaded from the site? I know that they would be the same, but... I'm so shocking about my difficulties that I want to be sure there're not problems with the file I'm using...

Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 10, 2008, 03:00:09 PM
Files are the same, no problem with that. ;) And I also had a time with 2'51" of penalty. :D
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 10, 2008, 03:57:22 PM
Quote from: Mark L. Rivers
Well, I have very, very, very big problems in order to find the best dual switching...  :o
My best RH time is 55,50. I found a way that permits me to arrive (in RH at the moment) in 51"70, but I take (absurdly, thinking of the usual Stunts internal rules about penalty) over 3 minutes of penalty...  ??? :-\ >:(
I have an idea : don't do dual-way switching. :P ;D :D
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Chulk on December 10, 2008, 04:18:44 PM
I'll give it a try and then you'll have my feedback...
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 10, 2008, 05:31:15 PM
Good news. :)
I hope to see more people joining, the track is challenging, but it's a pleasure to finish it with a good time. I really find the competition name very suitable for this track. I can feel the adrenaline as long as I progress in the track, fearing the small mistake that may ruin my attempt with a crash.
I think I can catch a podium on this one, even with Mark, Chulk and Duplode racing. You're warned guys, I'm damn motivated to race my "home" race in Paris. 8) ;)
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 12, 2008, 10:11:54 PM
Nice opening from Chulk too, 1st one below the 55 seconds limit. ;)
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Chulk on December 12, 2008, 10:38:23 PM
Yes, I thought it would be harder to reach that time. It seems that the race will be decided by the point pipsqueaks reach PG and how short the racing line is...
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 12, 2008, 11:02:06 PM
I expect a centisecond war for the finish now. Not exactly what I though first but interesting finish of the season. ;)
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Duplode on December 13, 2008, 04:12:17 AM
Well, I'm not surprised with this outcome - if there would be only one good way it'd be a centisecond war a la FTT0105 anyway; and even more so, the alternative racing lines that might be viable appear to be fairly well matched (at least the ones which do not get you 0:54, or 2:54, or 3:12 penalty for no reason... ::)). And besides that, I knew my initial time was rather pedestrian (even if this Paris has no sidewalks... ;D). Thus I improved it a little bit, if only to stay on the same page for now  :)

And Krys, I know you already reinforced that we're in a "shortcut free competition", but there is still one cut that needs your attention I think. Remember the trick you used on your SDR victory last year (http://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?topic=2018.msg31444#msg31444)?(*) That piece of scenery road splitting from the final section of the track and rejoining just after the first corner is very, very inviting for a similar exploit. May I take it for granted that it is forbidden, in analogy to the arguments about, say, Z85?

(*) well, not just you but Brian, and me as well to less spectacular results...
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 13, 2008, 01:46:20 PM
I expect a centisecond war for the finish now. Not exactly what I though first but interesting finish of the season. ;)

I'm still totally in the dark about the way to choose... I've not make trials in NORH, only in RH, and I'm still over 55"00... I'm becoming more and more worried...



Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 13, 2008, 03:23:22 PM
Well, I'm not surprised with this outcome - if there would be only one good way it'd be a centisecond war a la FTT0105 anyway; and even more so, the alternative racing lines that might be viable appear to be fairly well matched (at least the ones which do not get you 0:54, or 2:54, or 3:12 penalty for no reason... ::)). And besides that, I knew my initial time was rather pedestrian (even if this Paris has no sidewalks... ;D). Thus I improved it a little bit, if only to stay on the same page for now  :)

And Krys, I know you already reinforced that we're in a "shortcut free competition", but there is still one cut that needs your attention I think. Remember the trick you used on your SDR victory last year (http://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?topic=2018.msg31444#msg31444)?(*) That piece of scenery road splitting from the final section of the track and rejoining just after the first corner is very, very inviting for a similar exploit. May I take it for granted that it is forbidden, in analogy to the arguments about, say, Z85?

(*) well, not just you but Brian, and me as well to less spectacular results...
This cut was found by SuperBrian, I just optimized it. Thanks again to him for this discover.
Anyway, there's no "checkpoints" in FTT. It's an open competition. Choose your path as you wish, but remember that penalty time will count. I tried the trick you're talking about and got from 2'48" to 3'24" (depending of the path chosen) so it seems worthless. ;D But yet, it's not forbidden.

I expect a centisecond war for the finish now. Not exactly what I though first but interesting finish of the season. ;)

I'm still totally in the dark about the way to choose... I've not make trials in NORH, only in RH, and I'm still over 55"00... I'm becoming more and more worried...
Let me make a proposal : join Damage Inc. team from now to (at least) the end of 2009 (you don't have to bring with you a sponsor, Stunts is not F1 and there's no Stunts crisis :D), and I'll share with you my current best replay. 8) Tell me if you're interested. ;)
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Chulk on December 13, 2008, 11:48:37 PM
I tried the trick you're talking about and got from 2'48" to 3'24" (depending of the path chosen) so it seems worthless.
It was my first path choice but after around 9 or 10 RH tries, I always got Penalty Time, so I dismissed it and chose the (probably faster, at least so far) way you (probably) chose too.

I'm still totally in the dark about the way to choose... I've not make trials in NORH, only in RH, and I'm still over 55"00... I'm becoming more and more worried...
I thought you were just kidding the first time you said that! It's not that hard to find, have you already looked at the map "in a proffesional way"?

Let me make a proposal : join Damage Inc. team from now to (at least) the end of 2009 (you don't have to bring with you a sponsor, Stunts is not F1 and there's no Stunts crisis :D), and I'll share with you my current best replay. 8) Tell me if you're interested. ;)
That doesn't sound honest, though I know Mark won't agree to that...
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 14, 2008, 09:56:25 AM
Let me make a proposal : join Damage Inc. team from now to (at least) the end of 2009 (you don't have to bring with you a sponsor, Stunts is not F1 and there's no Stunts crisis :D), and I'll share with you my current best replay. 8) Tell me if you're interested. ;)
That doesn't sound honest, though I know Mark won't agree to that...
Not honest ? Why ? Is it forbidden to share replays between teammates now ? ;D :P
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Chulk on December 14, 2008, 07:34:01 PM
Not honest ? Why ? Is it forbiodden to share replays between teammates now ? ;D :P

I didn't say it was illegal, I just said it was dishonest. I mean Mark joining a team just for a race or you using your replay to "blackmail" Mark into helping you next year...
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 14, 2008, 09:12:48 PM
I don't feel like I need help, I just race for the fun of it. The period when I raced hard for every centisecond ended in 2004.
And I know Mark doesn't want to join any team so... ;-)

Also, I proposed Mark to join the team not just for this race, but for at least a season (end of 2009 I wrote). SuperBrian wants to switch to manual gears and I think he could learn a lot with Mark. :P ;D
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 16, 2008, 04:57:31 PM

This morning I waked up with a thought about a possible line I could follow in order to lower my current (RH  :'() time, that is 55"50... :'( :'( :'(
It's really an hazzard, and I don't know if it will work (I'm stil not able to launch Stunts since this morning), but this is enough to make me a bit less worried...  ;)
And maybe I could try my first NORH trial, at last...  ::)




Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Chulk on December 16, 2008, 05:47:12 PM

This morning I waked up with a thought about a possible line I could follow in order to lower my current (RH  :'() time, that is 55"50... :'( :'( :'(
It's really an hazzard, and I don't know if it will work (I'm stil not able to launch Stunts since this morning), but this is enough to make me a bit less worried...  ;)
And maybe I could try my first NORH trial, at last...  ::)
Happy to hear that! We'll finally have Mark on the scoreboard!
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 16, 2008, 06:15:08 PM
I'll post my improved time in the scoreboard only after Mark has posted at least a (weak) time. ;D
Is it a new leading time ? Maybe, maybe not. You'll see. :P

Anyway, I guessed 1st that 52" would be a winning time, but to be honest I'm not so sure right now. It will probably be 53" and not 52". Latest centiseconds are hard to catch.
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Chulk on December 16, 2008, 06:23:18 PM
Latest centiseconds are hard to catch.
They really are. But I still think a high 52 is doable and will probably be the winning time. I had 53.10 in a run where I used RH only to rewind a crash on the last bridge. And I got PG later than expected and slightly touched the grass in 2nd corner while trying to cut directly to the fast grass.
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 16, 2008, 06:31:18 PM
I got PG later than expected and slightly touched the grass in 2nd corner while trying to cut directly to the fast grass.
Mmmm... You're giving too many infos to Mark I think. Don't blame yourself if he beats you in the end. :P :D
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 16, 2008, 09:43:58 PM
I got PG later than expected and slightly touched the grass in 2nd corner while trying to cut directly to the fast grass.
Mmmm... You're giving too many infos to Mark I think. Don't blame yourself if he beats you in the end. :P :D

Ah ah....   :o  :D

Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 16, 2008, 10:19:15 PM

Wow, great improvement in RH for me: 55"15...   :-\:-[ :'(
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 16, 2008, 10:39:00 PM

54"45...  :-X
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Duplode on December 16, 2008, 10:43:36 PM
Maybe you shouldn't be so depressed Mark - I feel that with your skills it won't take too long to convert that into 54:xx NoRH  :)
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 16, 2008, 10:46:51 PM

I know I can do 54.xx in NORH, but I'm completely in the fog hearing that it seems possible (for all you) realize 52" or even 53"...  ??? ???  It seems we (me from a part and all you from another one) are driving on two different tracks...  ::)
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 16, 2008, 10:58:31 PM
52 seems difficult for me, but 53 is possible. ;D
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 16, 2008, 11:02:30 PM

If you are talking about 53"8x, I could think to be able to reach it (maybe and with a lot of trials), but below that limit, I really don't see where my Indy should pass...

Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 16, 2008, 11:54:29 PM
Duplode is also at 54 seconds now, still behind Chulk, but getting close.
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Chulk on December 17, 2008, 02:30:27 AM
I got PG later than expected and slightly touched the grass in 2nd corner while trying to cut directly to the fast grass.
Mmmm... You're giving too many infos to Mark I think. Don't blame yourself if he beats you in the end. :P :D
Why? It's obvious we get PG and the last brigde can't be cut as there is water below it...

Duplode is also at 54 seconds now, still behind Chulk, but getting close.
Not close enough.

I've been hiding a high 52 since I sent my first time...
Oops, forget I said that  :-X
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 17, 2008, 09:27:54 AM
Quote from: Chulk
Quote from: Krys TOFF
Duplode is also at 54 seconds now, still behind Chulk, but getting close.
Not close enough.
And what about me : am I close enough now ? ;D
RankDriverMin.Sec.Cent.CarTime posted
1Chulk05430Indycar2008-12-12
2KrysTOFF05435Indycar2008-12-17
3Duplode05465Indycar2008-12-16
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 17, 2008, 03:34:32 PM

OK, first NORH session 15 minutes long and first result on the scoreboard. But for the moment don't ask me how it's possible smashing the 54" barrier...  ::)
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 17, 2008, 04:09:14 PM
Woohoo ! 4 drivers in 35 centiseconds !!! 8) I like it. :) Even if I fear I'll be the last of this group at the deadline of the race... ::)
Now I want to see CTG, Zak, AbuRaf and others (BJ ?) on the scoreboard for a centiseconds war in Paris. ;)
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Chulk on December 17, 2008, 06:16:09 PM
Woohoo ! 4 drivers in 35 centiseconds !!! 8) I like it. :) Even if I fear I'll be the last of this group at the deadline of the race... ::)
Now I want to see CTG, Zak, AbuRaf and others (BJ ?) on the scoreboard for a centiseconds war in Paris. ;)
Great final race! Everything can happen here!

OK, first NORH session 15 minutes long and first result on the scoreboard. But for the moment don't ask me how it's possible smashing the 54" barrier...  ::)
I'll give you a hint... the same way but faster!  ;D
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 17, 2008, 09:57:21 PM

Finally we have to say that this track is not a real "dual way switching" track: to reaize the best time we have to follow one of the ways (which one?  :D) from the beginning until the end... Anyway the choreography  is great.  ;)

Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 17, 2008, 11:29:30 PM

OK, I'm beginning to take confidence with the "one way"...  ;)

Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 18, 2008, 12:16:26 AM
Quote from: Mark L. Rivers
Finally we have to say that this track is not a real "dual way switching" track: to realize the best time we have to follow one of the ways (which one?  :D) from the beginning until the end... Anyway the choreography is great.  ;)
Thanks. ;)
Yet, way-switching is also possible. Choose your path.
Oh, and nice new time Mark. 54 seconds limit is closed to be broken. ;)

edit : with current scoreboard, Mark is virtually champion : 56+6 = 62 while Duplode is only 2nd : 60+1 = 61
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Chulk on December 22, 2008, 10:44:59 PM
54 seconds limit is closed to be broken. ;)
It IS broken. I told you it was doable!

Quote from: Scoreboard of the active track
Rank   Driver   Min.  Sec.  Cent.  Car       Time posted 
1       Chulk      0     53      80   Indycar   2008-12-22
I'll give you a hint of what I do to go faster... Try using Duplode's Vodafone McLaren! (You will see it at the end of the video) ;D
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Duplode on December 26, 2008, 09:57:47 PM
I'll give you a hint of what I do to go faster... Try using Duplode's Vodafone McLaren! (You will see it at the end of the video) ;D

 8) Nice you succeeded to install it finally!  ;) Maybe a F1 Season 2009 pack would be a fun idea?

As for racing: it's quite a while since my last replay, so, an update... :)
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Chulk on December 26, 2008, 10:31:28 PM
Aburaf is having problems trying to make DOSBox work properly in Linux, maybe Duplode can help him. As for the race, time difference between 1st and last is barely over half a sec, so everything can happen... I guess Mark is hiding and Krys is not racing because their last replays are a week old, and only 2 days to go, so...
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Duplode on December 26, 2008, 11:37:50 PM
Aburaf is having problems trying to make DOSBox work properly in Linux, maybe Duplode can help him.

AbuRaf did contact me - I just sent him a suggested and annotated dosbox.conf, hopefully it will work  ;)

As for the race, time difference between 1st and last is barely over half a sec, so everything can happen... I guess Mark is hiding and Krys is not racing because their last replays are a week old, and only 2 days to go, so...

Only two days - time flies... ::)
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 27, 2008, 02:08:27 PM
I guess Mark is hiding

You're wrong, I'm hiding nothing. I've just realized (5 minutes ago) my best time and now I'm going to publish it on FTT site. Main problem is that I think to have realized an almost perfect race in order of the way I think it's the fastest...
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 27, 2008, 02:30:18 PM

In last 30 minutes, I tried and re-tried, but I don't know where can I find other 15 centiseconds, knowing also that, if I'd find them, it won't be enough anyway...
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 27, 2008, 02:45:32 PM

Well, what can I say...? It's really a track that reserve me a lot of surprises... I've just found what I thought I would have found with big difficult...  :) :)  Stop here for me, now, next session, the last one, it will be tomorrow, in the afternoon.
Anyway, whatever will be the final standings, in this race and in the season, it will have been a great and joyful championship, raced beside the strongest NORH drivers in the world!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 27, 2008, 03:04:05 PM
Ouch ! A perfect draw on top at 53"80, and Duplode just behind at 54"00. Still no news of other pipsqueaks, sadly.
1 day remaining, time for me to race again. Expect a new time until tonight then. ;)

edit : well, no improvement, just the 54"25 I already had in my pocket. :-\
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: AbuRaf70 on December 27, 2008, 10:34:20 PM
Finalmente me he decidido a enviar mi mejor replay de la FTT0111, que como verán está muy lejos de ser competitivo...

Pero es al solo hecho de valorar todo lo hecho por mi hijo para hacer funcionar mi máquina de la mejor forma posible, a pesar de no contar con tiempo para hacerlo...

Además para agradecer la colaboración de Duplode, quien gentilmente me envió los parámetros para hacer funcionar el DOSBox en Linux...   hay mucho trabajo por delante todavía, así que espero poder mejorar...  Mi gran problema es que corriendo en RH anda algo mejor, pero cuando pulso F5 para grabar en NoRH, se complica aún más el funcionamiento...

También quiero agradecerle a Chulk por el replay que me envió...  pero claro, una cosa es ver como maneja él y otra, es querer imitarlo...

De nuevo, Muchas Gracias a todos...
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Chulk on December 28, 2008, 12:37:44 AM
What a sharp race! I hope to win this last race. I don't want to finish this season as a virgin (I won at least a track in both previuos seasons). GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE IN YOUR FINAL ATTEMPTS TOMORROW!
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: AbuRaf70 on December 28, 2008, 01:13:19 AM
Estuve toda la tarde trabajando con los parámetros del DOSBox y ahora que son las 22 hs. (Argentina) pude hacer este replay, que ya me deja conforme, puesto que estoy compitiendo, como dijo Mark, con los mejores NoRH del mundo... y eso es mucho decir...

Mi tiempo:  1:07,05

Suerte Chulk...  que puedas darte el gusto de ganar esta última carrera del año...
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 28, 2008, 09:02:25 AM
I'm getting closer to the 54 seconds limit. Will I reach it ? ::)
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 28, 2008, 01:42:57 PM
I'm getting closer to the 54 seconds limit. Will I reach it ? ::)

I can't answer to your question, but I know you can reach it...  ;) :)

Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 28, 2008, 02:27:53 PM
I started early my session in this afternoon, because I've other engagements later. I learnt other things in last 30 minutes, really a pity not to have realized many sessions on this track due to other commitments... Anyway, in last 4 attempts, I got a 53,85 and another 53,80... I hope to improve, reaching at least my target, that, by now, I individuated quite accurately...
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 28, 2008, 02:54:33 PM
OK, I have to stop here my current session. I don't know if I will be able to find other 15 or 30 minutes later for a last shot. Anyway, for the moment I didn't improve my current time. Just good laps have been added in my scoreboard as you can see in the evolution of my Evalution page respect the previous one published some minutes ago in my previous comment...
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Duplode on December 28, 2008, 06:17:05 PM
I can't keep it shut for too long (easy to say with 45 minutes remaining... ::)). There is another twist to the plot -
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Duplode on December 28, 2008, 06:25:39 PM
- as Chulk has just demonstrated -
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 28, 2008, 07:00:13 PM

Well, it's not really the end I had thought...
Beside the absolute consciousness about the title was already won by Duplode after FTT0109, I aimed, as aforesaid, to win the last two races, and I had thought to succeed in it... almost until this afternoon.
Believe me (and I think it's not hard to do) that I have not any ideas about the lines choosen by the fastest... This make me a bit confused... From a point of view, having to lose the race, I'm "happy" to have lost it failing to individuate the winning-switch, but, on the other side, I'm really dazed not to have see it... I took penalties in every foot of the track I put my wheels differently from the (by now we can call it so) standard line...

Anyway beside all this, let me say the absolute important thing I have to say:

Congratulations Duplode!  :) :) :)

Happy to cede in your hands the "crown" conquered last year, you has been the absolute best NORH driver in this season and you deserve, without any doubt, the title!
It will be a pleasure crossing our swords next year beside the other strongest NORH drivers of the world!  ;) :)

Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Chulk on December 28, 2008, 09:19:29 PM
Damn! Duplode beat me! And with quite a big gap... CONGRATS CHAMP! I had discovered that line a week ago or and realized my final time. When I tried to beat 53.80 and found it impossible after many tries, I decided I would try to find the way to get rid of the penalty time following that line. It happened by accident as in one of my RH tries, the bug that keeps the car turning left appeared and that caused me to go left right before the finish line. I completed a lap at 48.55 and stop there, convinced nobody else would find it. I had to post it 40 minutes before the end and I think that killed my race... But I'm really motivated for next year, so we'll have an amazing season!
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 28, 2008, 11:41:15 PM
When I tried to beat 53.80 and found it impossible after many tries

This is a phrase that makes me a bit more satisfied about my race...  ;)

Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 29, 2008, 02:06:28 PM
Incredible finish, I expected a sharper one !
I'm curious to see the replays now, and an analysis of them would be interesting.
But I'm quite busy right now so it will be for tonight.
Congrats to Duplode for his champion title, he was the best this season. :)

Now there's a 1 week break and new season will start 4h of January. I operformed tests with my LTB system but found 1 issue I need to correct : it doesn't stop at the race deadline. :D I'll do it this week. ;)
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Chulk on December 29, 2008, 08:43:37 PM
So... open cards and old fashion LTB from next race. Exactly like the season I won... That's the way I like it! (Piece o' cake, Krys ;) )
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: AbuRaf70 on December 29, 2008, 09:28:34 PM
FELICITACIONES, CAMPEON DUPLODE...!!!

Pero, también las quiero hacer extensivas a todos los virtuosos del NoRH, como lo son Uds., al haber luchado palmo a palmo en cada competencia...

Por mi parte, espero poder seguir participando, aunque más no sea como "un espectador de lujo", que mira "desde adentro" en cada pista...
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Duplode on December 29, 2008, 10:11:39 PM
Well, what to say? First of all thanks: to Krys for the championship and to all pipsqueaks for the battles - in particular, to Mark for the knightly rivalry. Both the catch and the chase were a spectacular ride. It is a great honour to reach this far in our unique art, especially racing alongside, as Mark would put it, so devoted bishops...
Now, I shall enjoy the laurels while I can, as the new season will dawn quickly. I wonder whether we could have a fourth champion waiting to rise, next year or a bit further...  :)

---

And as for the race: truth is, I found the main cut quite early in the race - when I made that post double-checking the rules about two weeks ago, I was pretty convinced it had to be possible somehow, and found how to pull it shortly afterwards. After that, I kept racing the "default" line for a while so I could compare my times with yours (at least on the first half of the race - if anybody found the trick, as Chulk did, I'd better have something strong in the pocket...), post intermediate times ( ::)) and test what the actual limit was. And BTW: Mark's 53.70 was really strong - I don't think lowering that by more than a tenth with the "default" line would be possible...
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Chulk on December 29, 2008, 10:24:31 PM
Mark's 53.70 was really strong - I don't think lowering that by more than a tenth with the "default" line would be possible...
I think so too.
Title: Re: FTT0111
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 29, 2008, 10:45:08 PM
Mark's 53.70 was really strong - I don't think lowering that by more than a tenth with the "default" line would be possible...
I think so too.

You (I mean both) are really true gentlemen, better, true knights...  :)