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Poll
Question: Who will be the champion of ZakStunts 2012?
Option 1: Bonzai Joe votes: 1
Option 2: CTG votes: 1
Option 3: Duplode votes: 4
Option 4: Friker votes: 1
Option 5: Gutix votes: 0
Option 6: Renato Biker votes: 2
Title: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: CTG on July 20, 2012, 08:39:54 AM
My vote goes for Biker.
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: alanrotoi on July 20, 2012, 04:36:31 PM
What about me? :(((((( haha
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: BonzaiJoe on July 20, 2012, 05:31:13 PM
Definitely me.
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: CTG on July 20, 2012, 06:19:52 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on July 20, 2012, 04:36:31 PM
What about me? :(((((( haha

What about AbuRaf then?
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: alanrotoi on July 20, 2012, 10:10:51 PM
Aburaf lives in Rafaela city. They have a football team (Atlético Rafaela).
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: Usrin on July 20, 2012, 10:35:16 PM
I believe in the Slovak power. So if not me, then Friker. (Please, don't be lazy!)
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: CTG on July 23, 2012, 08:32:18 AM
Quote from: Usrin on July 20, 2012, 10:35:16 PM
I believe in the Slovak power. So if not me, then Friker. (Please, don't be lazy!)

Hohoooooo, that was a coming out: Friker is Usrin!  ;D
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: Usrin on July 24, 2012, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: CTG on July 23, 2012, 08:32:18 AM
Quote from: Usrin on July 20, 2012, 10:35:16 PM
I believe in the Slovak power. So if not me, then Friker. (Please, don't be lazy!)

Hohoooooo, that was a coming out: Friker is Usrin!  ;D

Moreover: Miroslav Šatan, Peter Sagan and Róbert Vittek are also me. ;D
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: CTG on July 24, 2012, 10:36:37 AM
Quote from: Usrin on July 24, 2012, 10:35:12 AM
Moreover: Miroslav Šatan, Peter Sagan and Róbert Vittek are also me. ;D


Felvidék SC
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: CTG on September 07, 2012, 03:23:45 PM
Head to head standings between the expected top5 pipsqueaks:

DUP-RBI 0-3
DUP-GUT 3.5-3.5
DUP-FRI 6-2
DUP-CTG 4-3

RBI-GUT 2-0
RBI-FRI 3-0
RBI-CTG 3-0

GUT-FRI 4-3
GUT-CTG 3-3

FRI-CTG 3-4

"Top dogs league"

1 RBI 11-0 (100.0%)
2 DUP 13.5-11.5 (54.0%)
3 GUT 10.5-11.5 (47.7%)
4 CTG 10-13 (43.5%)
5 FRI 8-17 (32.0%)

Overall performance against all the opponents:

Renato Biker 33-0 (100.0%)
Gutix 66.5-13.5 (83.1%)
Duplode 73.5-16.5 (81.7%)
CTG 65-17 (79.3%)
Friker 60-30 (66.7%)
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: CTG on October 02, 2012, 11:56:46 AM
Update. I think a DUP-RBI-GUT season podium would be realistic at the end.

Head to head standings between the expected top5 pipsqueaks:

DUP-RBI 0-4
DUP-GUT 4.5-3.5
DUP-FRI 7-2
DUP-CTG 5-3

RBI-GUT 3-0
RBI-FRI 4-0
RBI-CTG 4-0

GUT-FRI 5-3
GUT-CTG 3-4

FRI-CTG 3-5

"Top dogs league"

1 RBI 15-0 (100.0%)
2 DUP 16.5-12.5 (56.9%)
3 CTG 12-15 (44.4%)
4 GUT 11.5-14.5 (44.2%)
5 FRI 8-21 (27.6%)

Overall performance against all the opponents:

Renato Biker 44-0 (100.0%)
Duplode 82.5-18.5 (81.7%)
Gutix 73.5-17.5 (80.8%)
CTG 72-20 (78.3%)
Friker 66-35 (65.3%)
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: CTG on November 30, 2012, 03:12:06 PM
So Duplode again - but 2nd-5th place is still quite unsure. I'm going to analyze the chances after getting the results of Randomizer.
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: CTG on December 01, 2012, 09:30:02 AM
Quote from: CTG on November 30, 2012, 03:12:06 PM
2nd-5th place is still quite unsure

False, stupid me. Biker has no chance for season podium if both Friker and me participate in Z137. Almost the same goes for Gutix. (Values in brackets show the +2 LTB case for each positions)


   Position      Duplode      CTG      Friker      Gutix      Renato Biker   
   1      110 (112)      93 (95)      95 (97)      88 (90)      87 (89)   
   2      109 (111)      92 (94)      94 (96)      87 (89)      86 (88)   
   3      108 (110)      91 (93)      93 (95)      86 (88)      85 (87)   
   4      108 (110)      90 (92)      92 (94)      85 (87)      84 (86)   
   5      108 (110)      90 (92)      91 (93)      84 (86)      83 (85)   
   6      108 (110)      90 (92)      90 (92)      84 (86)      82 (84)   
   7      108 (110)      90 (92)      90 (92)      84 (86)      81 (83)   
   8      108 (110)      90 (92)      90 (92)      84 (86)      80 (82)   
   9      108 (110)      90 (92)      90 (92)      84 (86)      79 (81)   
   10      108 (110)      90 (92)      90 (92)      84 (86)      78 (80)   
   11      108 (110)      90 (92)      90 (92)      84 (86)      77 (79)   
   12      108 (110)      90 (92)      90 (92)      84 (86)      76 (78)   
   >12      108 (110)      90 (92)      90 (92)      84 (86)      75 (77)   
   DNS      102      87      84      82      75   
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: CTG on December 01, 2012, 09:55:08 AM
So:

Duplode is the champion with a huge gap.

CTG will be the silver medalist, if:

- he participates ZCT 137, Friker doesn't and Gutix can't get 12+2 points
- since Friker has the same overall score with EB, he needs more netto points than his rival (podium and/or LTB; advantage is at Friker, because he gets a point even with finishing 5th)

Friker will be the silver medalist, if:

- he participates ZCT 137, while CTG doesn't and Gutix doesn't get 12+2
- getting the same or more netto points than CTG (if CTG can't get a 2nd place, draw is an advance for Friker, since he has more silver medals)

Gutix will be the silver medalist, if:

- both CTG and Friker miss ZCT 137, while he earns at least 3 netto points (4th place + 2 LTB / 3 th place + 1 LTB / 2nd place or better)
- both CTG and Friker participate, but they can't earn netto points (no LTB, CTG 4th or worse, Friker 6th or worse), while Gutix wins and gets +2 LTB

Renato Biker will be the silver medalist, if:

- CTG and Friker both miss ZCT 137 and Gutix earns at least 9 netto points less than him

To be realistic: Gutix will do his best to win the race and get +2 LTB to be on the seasonal podium. The same goes for Friker, who will finish in ZCT 137's TOP5 for sure (estabilishing his silver medal in overall). I won't be able to get any netto points, while Biker's result - if both Friker and I participate - is irrelevant in this question.

Prediction for ZCT 137: see the dedicated topic.

Prediction for the season's result: 1 Duplode 109, 2 Friker 94, 3 Gutix 90, 4 CTG 90, 5 Renato Biker 75
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: CTG on December 01, 2012, 11:02:08 AM
Head to head standings:

DUP-RBI 2-4
DUP-GUT 5.5-3.5
DUP-FRI 9-2
DUP-CTG 7-3

RBI-GUT 4-0
RBI-FRI 5-1
RBI-CTG 5-1

GUT-FRI 6-3
GUT-CTG 3-5

FRI-CTG 3-7

"Top dogs league"

1 RBI 18-4 (81.9%)
2 DUP 23.5-12.5 (65.3%)
3 CTG 16-18 (47.1%)
4 GUT 12.5-17.5 (41.7%)
5 FRI 9-27 (25.0%)
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: CTG on December 01, 2012, 11:04:43 AM
Quote from: CTG on December 01, 2012, 09:55:08 AM
draw is an advance for Friker, since he has more silver medals

Zak: head to head results, bonus-free points or medal table would decide if X and Y have equal points?
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: zaqrack on December 01, 2012, 02:05:08 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 01, 2012, 11:04:43 AM
Quote from: CTG on December 01, 2012, 09:55:08 AM
draw is an advance for Friker, since he has more silver medals

Zak: head to head results, bonus-free points or medal table would decide if X and Y have equal points?

I never thought of this, but bonus-free points would make most sense.
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: CTG on December 14, 2012, 11:02:52 AM
Quote from: CTG on December 01, 2012, 09:30:02 AM

   Position      Duplode      CTG      Friker      Gutix   

   Renato Biker   
   1      110 (112)      93 (95)      95 (97)      88 (90)      87 (89)   
   2      109 (111)      92 (94)      94 (96)      87 (89)      86 (88)   
   3      108 (110)      91 (93)      93 (95)      86 (88)      85 (87)   
   4      108 (110)      90 (92)      92 (94)      85 (87)      84 (86)   
   5      108 (110)      90 (92)      91 (93)      84 (86)      83 (85)   
   6      108 (110)      90 (92)      90 (92)      84 (86)      82 (84)   
   7      108 (110)      90 (92)      90 (92)      84 (86)      81 (83)   
   8      108 (110)      90 (92)      90 (92)      84 (86)      80 (82)   
   9      108 (110)      90 (92)      90 (92)      84 (86)      79 (81)   
   10      108 (110)      90 (92)      90 (92)      84 (86)      78 (80)   
   11      108 (110)      90 (92)      90 (92)      84 (86)      77 (79)   
   12      108 (110)      90 (92)      90 (92)      84 (86)      76 (78)   
   >12      108 (110)      90 (92)      90 (92)      84 (86)      75 (77)   
   DNS      102      87      84      82      75   

We are getting closer and closer, so let's see the chances again (quite detailed - maybe a bit over-explained - handbook for the antant):

LT at the moment: CTG 201 hours, Friker 48 hours; 373 hours remaining to quiet days

Possible LTB distribution between the podium aspirants:

CTG 0, FRI 0, GUT 0/1/2:
Impossible options. It also means that Gutix can't be the silver medalist of this season.
so: DUP/FRI/CTG, DUP/FRI/GUT, DUP/CTG/FRI and DUP/CTG/GUT are the remaining options


CTG 0, FRI 1, GUT 0:
Somebody (except Gutix) collects 202-229 hours LT, while FRI gets at least 154 hours (but less in overall than the other guy); the first attack should happen in 20 hours (of course you should add the passed hours from now).

No season podium for Gutix.

Friker is the silver medalist, if he:
- is on the podium
- finishes 4th and CTG can't win the race
- finishes 5th and CTG is not in TOP2
- finishes 6th or worse and CTG is not on the podium

CTG is the silver medalist, if he:
- wins the race and Friker is 4th or worse
- is second, Friker 5th or worse
- is third, Friker 6th or worse


CTG 0, FRI 2, GUT 0/1:
Somebody (including Gutix) collects 202+x hours LT, while FRI gets at least 155+x hours; the first attack should happen in 20 hours

No season podium for Gutix.

Friker is the silver medalist, if he:
- is in TOP4
- is 5th or worse, CTG is not in TOP2

CTG is the silver medalist, if he:
- wins the race and Friker is 5th or worse
- is 2nd, Friker 6th or worse


CTG 0, FRI 1, GUT 2:
Gutix collects at least 203+x hours, while FRI gets 154+x; 20 hours left for this option

Gutix is bronze medalist, if he:
- wins the race and CTG is not on the podium

Friker is silver medalist, if he:
- is on the podium
- finishes 4th and CTG can't win the race
- finishes 5th and CTG is not in TOP2
- finishes 6th or worse and CTG is not on the podium

CTG is silver medalist, if he:
- wins the race and Friker is 4th or worse
- is second, Friker 5th or worse
- is third, Friker 6th or worse

...but at least bronze medalist, if he's a podiumer or Gutix can't win the race.


CTG 1, FRI 0, GUT 0:
Somebody (except Gutix) collects 202+x hours leading time, while Friker can't get more than 153; the first attack should happen in 86 hours.

No season podium for Gutix.

Friker is silver medalist, if he:
- wins the race
- is 2nd-4th and beats CTG

CTG is silver medalist, if he:
- beats Friker
- can't beat Friker, but both of them finish worse than 4th


CTG 1, FRI 0, GUT 2:
Gutix collects 202+x hours leading time, while Friker can't get more than 153; the first attack should happen in 86 hours.

Gutix is bronze medalist, if he:
- wins the race and Friker is not in TOP5

Friker is silver medalist, if he:
- wins the race
- is 2nd-4th and beats CTG
...but at least bronze medalist, if he's in TOP5 or Gutix can't win the race.

CTG is silver medalist, if he:
- beats Friker
- can't beat Friker, but both of them finish worse than 4th



CTG 1, FRI 2, GUT 0:
Friker collects 154+x more hours, while nobody else is getting more than 201; he should take the lead the latest in 110 hours.

No season podium for Gutix.

Friker is the silver medalist, if he:
- is on the podium
- finishes 4th, CTG can't win the race
- finishes 5th, CTG is not in TOP2
- finished 6th or worse, CTG is not on the podium

CTG is the silver medalist, if he:
- wins the race and Friker is 4th or worse
- is second, Friker 5th or worse
- is third, Friker 6th or worse



CTG 2, FRI 1, GUT 0:
CTG +x hours, Friker y < 154+x, else < y; quite flexible time limit for 3rd party pipsqueaks (but in the most extreme case: at least 49 hours before quiet days). To ensure 2 LTB points, CTG needs 110 hours.

No season podium for Gutix.

Friker is silver medalist, if he:
- wins the race
- is 2nd-4th and beats CTG


CTG is silver medalist, if he:
- beats Friker
- can't beat Friker, but both of them finish worse than 4th


CTG 2, FRI 0, GUT 0/1:
CTG +x hours, else (including Gutix) 49 < y < 202+x, Friker < y and < 154+x; most extreme case: third party attack should happen at least 49 hours before quiet days.

No season podium for Gutix.

Friker is silver medalist, if he:
- wins the race
- is 2nd or 3rd and beats CTG

CTG is silver medalist, if he:
- beats Friker (even draw is enough)
- can't beat Friker but none of them are on the podium



SUMMARY

- If Gutix and Friker let me lead for another 86 hours, Argentina won't have a medal in this year.
- Most of the cases are good for Friker - if he gets more LTB than me then it's useless to fight against him.
- If I can get more LTB points than Friker, the final result will depend on our monthly head to head battle.

But the whole analysis is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: Friker on December 14, 2012, 04:52:25 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 14, 2012, 11:02:52 AM

SUMMARY

- If Gutix and Friker let me lead for another 20 hours, Argentina won't have a medal in this year.
- Most of the cases are good for Friker - if he gets more LTB than me then it's useless to fight against him.
- If I can get more LTB points than Friker, the final result will depend on our monthly head to head battle.

But the whole analysis is irrelevant.

Weel, I don't like inactivity in this race but we have the agreement. So I let you earn your LTB points and you.. will lose (even if you make your best - i want to be 2nd in overall ranking). ;)
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: CTG on December 14, 2012, 07:36:24 PM
Quote from: Friker on December 14, 2012, 04:52:25 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 14, 2012, 11:02:52 AM

SUMMARY

- If Gutix and Friker let me lead for another 20 hours, Argentina won't have a medal in this year.
- Most of the cases are good for Friker - if he gets more LTB than me then it's useless to fight against him.
- If I can get more LTB points than Friker, the final result will depend on our monthly head to head battle.

But the whole analysis is irrelevant.

Weel, I don't like inactivity in this race but we have the agreement. So I let you earn your LTB points and you.. will lose (even if you make your best - i want to be 2nd in overall ranking). ;)

And how will I know your best not to beat? :D
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: Friker on December 14, 2012, 11:46:32 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 14, 2012, 07:36:24 PM
Quote from: Friker on December 14, 2012, 04:52:25 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 14, 2012, 11:02:52 AM

SUMMARY

- If Gutix and Friker let me lead for another 20 hours, Argentina won't have a medal in this year.
- Most of the cases are good for Friker - if he gets more LTB than me then it's useless to fight against him.
- If I can get more LTB points than Friker, the final result will depend on our monthly head to head battle.

But the whole analysis is irrelevant.

Weel, I don't like inactivity in this race but we have the agreement. So I let you earn your LTB points and you.. will lose (even if you make your best - i want to be 2nd in overall ranking). ;)

And how will I know your best not to beat? :D

Simply race at your full speed - you will lose in any case. ;) Even with my hands broken! This track I'll win because I said so. :)
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: CTG on December 15, 2012, 12:30:48 AM
Quote from: Friker on December 14, 2012, 11:46:32 PM
Simply race at your full speed - you will lose in any case.

You will be the third Stunts pipsqueak on Earth ever charged with high and mighty behaviour by me. Right after Argammon and the smelly cheese (Alain).

I hate people with this kind of loud self-confidence in real life. However, 99% of these people performed a lot worse than me (chemistry/math competitions, exams, job interviews, work, etc).
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: BonzaiJoe on December 15, 2012, 03:05:41 PM
You edited out the blinky. Applause.
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: Friker on December 15, 2012, 03:27:32 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 15, 2012, 12:30:48 AM
Quote from: Friker on December 14, 2012, 11:46:32 PM
Simply race at your full speed - you will lose in any case.

You will be the third Stunts pipsqueak on Earth ever charged with high and mighty behaviour by me. Right after Argammon and the smelly cheese (Alain).

I hate people with this kind of loud self-confidence in real life. However, 99% of these people performed a lot worse than me (chemistry/math competitions, exams, job interviews, work, etc).

:D :D I'm sorry, CTG. But this worked as supposed. The only intention of that insult was to make you send something better. :) I have no chance to overtake you (probably with that perfect replay generator yes.. :D ), I'm just making (some wierd and stupid) fun of you. (Don't take it bad - I really respect you as others.)
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: CTG on December 15, 2012, 08:01:45 PM
Quote from: Friker on December 15, 2012, 03:27:32 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 15, 2012, 12:30:48 AM
Quote from: Friker on December 14, 2012, 11:46:32 PM
Simply race at your full speed - you will lose in any case.

You will be the third Stunts pipsqueak on Earth ever charged with high and mighty behaviour by me. Right after Argammon and the smelly cheese (Alain).

I hate people with this kind of loud self-confidence in real life. However, 99% of these people performed a lot worse than me (chemistry/math competitions, exams, job interviews, work, etc).

:D :D I'm sorry, CTG. But this worked as supposed. The only intention of that insult was to make you send something better. :) I have no chance to overtake you (probably with that perfect replay generator yes.. :D ), I'm just making (some wierd and stupid) fun of you. (Don't take it bad - I really respect you as others.)

My replay was a sign for other pipsqueaks to take this race seriously - nothing against you (and I hate time hiding).

On the other hand I had an idea how to improve the last part and I had to try it as soon as possible. It worked.
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: Friker on December 15, 2012, 08:09:06 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 15, 2012, 08:01:45 PM
Quote from: Friker on December 15, 2012, 03:27:32 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 15, 2012, 12:30:48 AM
Quote from: Friker on December 14, 2012, 11:46:32 PM
Simply race at your full speed - you will lose in any case.

You will be the third Stunts pipsqueak on Earth ever charged with high and mighty behaviour by me. Right after Argammon and the smelly cheese (Alain).

I hate people with this kind of loud self-confidence in real life. However, 99% of these people performed a lot worse than me (chemistry/math competitions, exams, job interviews, work, etc).

:D :D I'm sorry, CTG. But this worked as supposed. The only intention of that insult was to make you send something better. :) I have no chance to overtake you (probably with that perfect replay generator yes.. :D ), I'm just making (some wierd and stupid) fun of you. (Don't take it bad - I really respect you as others.)

My replay was a sign for other pipsqueaks to take this race seriously - nothing against you (and I hate time hiding).

On the other hand I had an idea how to improve the last part and I had to try it as soon as possible. It worked.

What is "the last part"? Down from the elevated road to the finish?
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: CTG on December 15, 2012, 09:05:27 PM
Quote from: Friker on December 15, 2012, 08:09:06 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 15, 2012, 08:01:45 PM
Quote from: Friker on December 15, 2012, 03:27:32 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 15, 2012, 12:30:48 AM
Quote from: Friker on December 14, 2012, 11:46:32 PM
Simply race at your full speed - you will lose in any case.

You will be the third Stunts pipsqueak on Earth ever charged with high and mighty behaviour by me. Right after Argammon and the smelly cheese (Alain).

I hate people with this kind of loud self-confidence in real life. However, 99% of these people performed a lot worse than me (chemistry/math competitions, exams, job interviews, work, etc).

:D :D I'm sorry, CTG. But this worked as supposed. The only intention of that insult was to make you send something better. :) I have no chance to overtake you (probably with that perfect replay generator yes.. :D ), I'm just making (some wierd and stupid) fun of you. (Don't take it bad - I really respect you as others.)

My replay was a sign for other pipsqueaks to take this race seriously - nothing against you (and I hate time hiding).

On the other hand I had an idea how to improve the last part and I had to try it as soon as possible. It worked.

What is "the last part"? Down from the elevated road to the finish?

the last quarter (or not... :D)
Title: Re: Champion of ZakStunts 2012
Post by: CTG on December 15, 2012, 09:23:54 PM
QuoteDuplode  21:21:19 Sending a message.

Let me guess: Friker will watch his messages soon. :D

(kidding)