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Title: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 07, 2013, 06:13:49 PM
The topic for my December track.
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on November 07, 2013, 07:37:21 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on November 07, 2013, 06:13:49 PM
The topic for my December track.

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Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: zaqrack on November 08, 2013, 10:27:17 AM
name may be too long...  :o
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on November 08, 2013, 10:29:00 AM
Quote from: zaqrack on November 08, 2013, 10:27:17 AM
name may be too long...  :o

What's more, I'm afraid it will have a special shape... :D
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: Duplode on November 09, 2013, 06:52:10 AM
Quote from: zaqrack on November 08, 2013, 10:27:17 AM
name may be too long...  :o

If so (and if that is really the name of the track), what about just "Hankey"? A touch of elusiveness makes references more fun anyway. As a bonus, it even fits 8 characters!

Quote from: Akoss Poo on November 05, 2013, 05:23:18 PM
Prepare for an easy ZCT 149. ZCT 148 is a difficult and long track, so I decided to confirm my previous idea.

I don't think I ever raced on an easy track by Akoss. That will be interesting to see!

Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on November 09, 2013, 10:13:41 AM
Quote from: Duplode on November 09, 2013, 06:52:10 AM
Quote from: zaqrack on November 08, 2013, 10:27:17 AM
name may be too long...  :o

If so (and if that is really the name of the track), what about just "Hankey"? A touch of elusiveness makes references more fun anyway. As a bonus, it even fits 8 characters!

Mr. Hankey, at least.

(http://stokereport.com/files/MrHankey2.jpg)
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: alanrotoi on November 10, 2013, 01:57:28 AM
What about "Pina way"?
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on November 10, 2013, 12:29:01 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on November 10, 2013, 01:57:28 AM
What about "Pina way"?

Pina has nothing special to do with December.
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: alanrotoi on November 19, 2013, 02:21:22 PM
gay
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on November 19, 2013, 04:49:59 PM
Here you are, X-mas pussy! ;D

http://www.nickscipio.com/pod/media/2009/12/Christmas-tree-pussy.jpg
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 25, 2013, 03:07:52 PM
Quote from: CTG on November 07, 2013, 07:37:21 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on November 07, 2013, 06:13:49 PM
The topic for my December track.

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The test version of the track has just been designed. Where and until when should I send the final version?
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: alanrotoi on November 25, 2013, 11:38:20 PM
Due to CTG already has it, send it to Zak :D
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 26, 2013, 09:46:45 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on November 25, 2013, 11:38:20 PM
Due to CTG already has it, send it to Zak :D

1. The track is not yet ready, only a test version is on my computer since yesterday.
2. CTG is in Munich at the moment since the weekend.
3. Which is the current address of Zak?
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on November 26, 2013, 05:59:35 PM
Yes, Mr. Dogpee, I already have a maxed out winning replay on X-mas poo track. Wheeeeee ^_^
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: zaqrack on November 27, 2013, 03:01:09 AM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on November 26, 2013, 09:46:45 AM

3. Which is the current address of Zak?

JUst click the email icon below my avatar
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 27, 2013, 12:32:47 PM
Quote from: zaqrack on November 27, 2013, 03:01:09 AM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on November 26, 2013, 09:46:45 AM

3. Which is the current address of Zak?

JUst click the email icon below my avatar

There is no file attachment option.

Now I have two track versions, I'll decide this week which one to use. One of them is a very plain track with mostly paved big corners.
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 30, 2013, 01:24:31 PM
Damn it! I left the track at work on my computer there... I can only send 'Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo' around 8:30 CET, monday morning. I hope it is not a big problem.
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on November 30, 2013, 02:22:29 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on November 30, 2013, 01:24:31 PM
Damn it! I left the track at work on my computer there... I can only send 'Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo' around 8:30 CET, monday morning. I hope it is not a big problem.

skid YOU!!! ;D
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: zaqrack on December 01, 2013, 06:36:33 AM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on November 30, 2013, 01:24:31 PM
Damn it! I left the track at work on my computer there... I can only send 'Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo' around 8:30 CET, monday morning. I hope it is not a big problem.

No problem, hopefully I will be able to update the site Monday evening
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on December 02, 2013, 09:45:09 AM
Quote from: zaqrack on December 01, 2013, 06:36:33 AM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on November 30, 2013, 01:24:31 PM
Damn it! I left the track at work on my computer there... I can only send 'Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo' around 8:30 CET, monday morning. I hope it is not a big problem.

No problem, hopefully I will be able to update the site Monday evening

You don't have to hurry, ZCT148 was far the worst race for me in this season. :D
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on December 02, 2013, 12:05:19 PM
Assuming a pure Jaguar podium for ZCT148 (and satanziege's Countach lap)... Car choice will be extremely track dependent.

1:36.75 - Lamborghini Countach
1:35.25 - Lancia Delta Integrale

1:25.70 - Lamborghini LM-002
1:21.10 - Acura NSX
1:18.95 - Porsche 962 IMSA

1:12.30 - Lotus Esprit Turbo
1:11.45 - Audi Quattro Sport
1:11.45 - Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
1:11.45 - Ferrari F40
1:05.95 - Ferrari GTO
1:03.85 - Porsche Carrera
1:02.50 - Porsche March Indy
1:02.50 - LWT ZR1-GT3 Mark II (still can't remember the correct order ::) ;D)
55.05 - Jaguar XJR9 IMSA
54.55 - Melange XGT-88
52.65 - McLaren Honda MP4/4
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on December 02, 2013, 02:06:10 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 02, 2013, 12:05:19 PM
Assuming a pure Jaguar podium for ZCT148 (and satanziege's Countach lap)... Car choice will be extremely track dependent.

1:36.75 - Lamborghini Countach
1:35.25 - Lancia Delta Integrale

1:25.70 - Lamborghini LM-002
1:21.10 - Acura NSX
1:18.95 - Porsche 962 IMSA

1:12.30 - Lotus Esprit Turbo
1:11.45 - Audi Quattro Sport
1:11.45 - Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
1:11.45 - Ferrari F40
1:05.95 - Ferrari GTO
1:03.85 - Porsche Carrera
1:02.50 - Porsche March Indy
1:02.50 - LWT ZR1-GT3 Mark II (still can't remember the correct order ::) ;D)
55.05 - Jaguar XJR9 IMSA
54.55 - Melange XGT-88
52.65 - McLaren Honda MP4/4

GTO, Corvette: no powergear availability for these cars, no chance
Lancia, Acura: too slow acceleration

Countach, Indy or P962 I think are the three most probable cars. Countach might miss bonus percentages stolen by Satanziege, while Indy might miss good powergear availability. My bet is P962, but we'll see. I haven't tested the track car-by-car.
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on December 02, 2013, 02:17:30 PM
Balance of right and left corners?
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on December 02, 2013, 02:24:17 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 02, 2013, 02:17:30 PM
Balance of right and left corners?

Damn... it is only you who think about this when you build/check a track... so I don't know.
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on December 02, 2013, 02:30:12 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on December 02, 2013, 02:24:17 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 02, 2013, 02:17:30 PM
Balance of right and left corners?

Damn... it is only you who think about this when you build/check a track... so I don't know.

Don't you know your own track? :P

(And you used to play Stunts even at your workplace, so check it... 30 seconds work, not more.)
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on December 02, 2013, 02:31:48 PM
1 paved left
1 sharp left

2 sharp right
2 elevated right
1 banked right
1 double right
3 paved right
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on December 02, 2013, 02:32:51 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on December 02, 2013, 02:31:48 PM
1 paved left
1 sharp left

2 sharp right
2 elevated right
1 banked right
1 double right
3 paved right

Muhaha, somebody built an anti-CTG track. Expect no replays from me. (Congratulations to Yellow Fleas for the team championship title.)
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: alanrotoi on December 02, 2013, 09:23:23 PM
It's too early to cry CTG wait for 1 week before deadline as usual.
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on December 03, 2013, 11:11:32 AM
Quote from: zaqrack on December 01, 2013, 06:36:33 AM
hopefully I will be able to update the site Monday evening

or Tuesday? ::)
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on December 03, 2013, 03:54:01 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 03, 2013, 11:11:32 AM
Quote from: zaqrack on December 01, 2013, 06:36:33 AM
hopefully I will be able to update the site Monday evening

or Tuesday? ::)

Or Wednesday?
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: zaqrack on December 04, 2013, 02:21:22 PM
wednesday.
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on December 05, 2013, 09:56:18 AM
This is really a piece of crap. I`m at 1:08 now, but won't send it in.
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on December 05, 2013, 10:06:23 AM
Quote from: CTG on December 05, 2013, 09:56:18 AM
This is really a piece of crap. I`m at 1:08 now, but won't send it in.

Even Dreadnaut is better than you then. We're at 51-53 seconds.
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on December 05, 2013, 11:29:26 AM
I mean 1:08 as a pure lap without bonus.
Title: ZCT 149 is an awful track!
Post by: CTG on December 05, 2013, 09:45:02 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 05, 2013, 11:29:26 AM
I mean 1:08 as a pure lap without bonus.

With the same effort: 1:05 on a mirrored version. ::)
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on December 10, 2013, 12:36:02 PM
Do you consider this as cheating?

To Rotoi: I mean the digital speedometer and not my whole participation in any competitions.
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: Duplode on December 10, 2013, 05:34:18 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 10, 2013, 12:36:02 PM
Do you consider this as cheating?

Yes, I do. The same would go for any other extraneous visual aids.
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: alanrotoi on December 10, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
Why always pushing the limits?
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on December 10, 2013, 08:26:06 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on December 10, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
Why always pushing the limits?

That's why I asked, before sending the first digital speedometer lap.
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on December 10, 2013, 10:21:54 PM
Question B: does it change anything if I publish the digital speedometer patch and everybody can use it?
Question C: do you also consider "mirror" controls as cheating? (re-mapping keyboard, mirroring screen)
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: Duplode on December 10, 2013, 11:32:44 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 10, 2013, 10:21:54 PM
Question B: does it change anything if I publish the digital speedometer patch and everybody can use it?

That would merely incite others to break the rules as well. (Unless Zak and everyone else somehow buy into the idea. Hopefully not...)

Quote from: CTG on December 10, 2013, 10:21:54 PM
Question C: do you also consider "mirror" controls as cheating? (re-mapping keyboard, mirroring screen)

Mirroring the screen would be stealth track modification. Remapping seems fair to me, though I guess that mirroring just the controls wouldn't help much  :D
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: alanrotoi on December 11, 2013, 12:32:53 AM
Why don't you just race?
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on December 11, 2013, 08:52:30 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on December 11, 2013, 12:32:53 AM
Why don't you just race?

I do. The speedometer thing was a plan. If I wanted to cheat, I would never ask about its "legal status".
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: alanrotoi on December 11, 2013, 12:27:33 PM
You need another slap from Mark L. Rivers.
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on December 11, 2013, 01:27:23 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on December 11, 2013, 12:27:33 PM
You need another slap from Mark L. Rivers.

Do you mean Mark L. Rivers, the ultrasensitive competition manager? Bah...
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: Chulk on December 11, 2013, 02:52:38 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 11, 2013, 08:52:30 AM
If I wanted to cheat, I would never ask about its "legal status".
That's not necessarily true, and you, as an attorney, should realize why.
To have this as a proof you were not cheating is not valid, as it proofs nothing. It just generates a false feeling of trust based on a false confession.

Anyway, Car modifications are strictly forbidden by Zak's rules, so I would consider the speedometer cheating.
As per track mirroring, I think of it being "at least" immoral, for as it is not forbidden by rules it cannot be labelled as "illegal".
Key remapping is ok
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on December 11, 2013, 02:59:16 PM
Quote from: Chulk on December 11, 2013, 02:52:38 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 11, 2013, 08:52:30 AM
If I wanted to cheat, I would never ask about its "legal status".
That's not necessarily true, and you, as an attorney, should realize why.
To have this as a proof you were not cheating is not valid, as it proofs nothing. It just generates a false feeling of trust based on a false confession.

Attorney... bah. My brain is still working as a researcher / chemical engineer. About your opinion: what should I do now? How do you know that I haven't used this aid since I have CarBlaster or Stressed? Since I'm far the most unfair person in the community (or at least from the revealed liars... khm...), you won't believe what I say. And even if I use this patch, nobody will be able to detect it, since the modification had no effect on the car's performance. So... whatever. I consider it as a visual aid, just like a mirror or little crosses drawn on the border of track field squares.

Quote from: Chulk on December 11, 2013, 02:52:38 PM
As per track mirroring, I think of it being "at least" immoral, for as it is not forbidden by rules it cannot be labelled as "illegal".
Key remapping is ok

Not track mirroring, but SCREEN MIRRORING, combined with keyboard remapping.
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: Chulk on December 12, 2013, 06:43:02 AM
Quote from: CTG on December 11, 2013, 02:59:16 PM
How do you know that I haven't used this aid since I have CarBlaster or Stressed?
We don't. It's a trust based system so it's a moral call for you to make.

Quote from: CTG on December 11, 2013, 02:59:16 PM
And even if I use this patch, nobody will be able to detect it, since the modification had no effect on the car's performance.
True, I guess a video is the only believable proof but we cannot demand it so, again, it's a moral issue.

Quote from: CTG on December 11, 2013, 02:59:16 PM
Not track mirroring, but SCREEN MIRRORING, combined with keyboard remapping.
That's what I meant, sorry.
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on December 12, 2013, 02:15:19 PM
It reminds me a bit on Mingva's "discovery" about advanced RH, although this one has a lot smaller impact. Since we can't avoid the usage, it should be legalized.
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: dreadnaut on December 12, 2013, 03:11:25 PM
Time to get proper doping on the track. It can't be avoided! :D
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: alanrotoi on December 13, 2013, 12:53:58 PM
It's time to find a cure for cancer too.
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on December 13, 2013, 01:08:41 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on December 13, 2013, 12:53:58 PM
It's time to find a cure for cancer too.

You mean Mr. Poo's penis cancer? :D
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on December 30, 2013, 07:43:56 PM
Silent night...
Title: Re: ZCT 149 - Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo
Post by: CTG on December 31, 2013, 05:05:44 PM
As a "happy end", I could mirror a replay completed on a mirrored track - in hexeditor. The hardest part was to set the car to the middle of the road after 2.5-3.0 seconds. After that... well... 30 minutes driving (all the lefts completed over 170 mph), 10 minutes of editing. I won't send that replay, although it's under 1:05.




kidding