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Title: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: CTG on November 03, 2014, 08:28:09 AM
Cars...

1:38.35 - Porsche Carrera 4
1:35.25 - LWT ZR1-GT3 Mark II
1:16.90 - Acura NSX
1:16.90 - Lancia Delta Integrale
1:16.90 - Melange XGT-88
1:15.95 - Jaguar XJR9 IMSA
1:15.00 - Lamborghini Countach
1:12.30 - Lamborghini LM-002
1:08.95 - McLaren Honda MP4/4
1:08.20 - Porsche 962 IMSA
1:01.22 - Audi Quattro Sport
1:01.22 - Lotus Esprit Turbo SE
1:00.60 - Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
58.80 - Ferrari GTO
56.05 - Ferrari F40
54.05 - Porsche March Indy
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - ???
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 04, 2014, 06:49:58 PM
Well... can the ZCT61 drivers re-use their replays? Melange seems to be a good option for this track.

It's my first meeting with this legendary track - not a bad one!

By the way ZCT 159 winning replays are missing in the ZCT 160 track pack.
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: CTG on November 05, 2014, 07:55:38 AM
I have to admit that ZCT61 was a fuckin' strong race. Nowadays, 20 minutes RH is enough for a 4th-5th place - but when I gave a quick try to the good old Oligoway, I couldn't beat AbuRaf's 14th place time with auto gears.

One more thing: there are only two tracks from ZakStunts burned in my mind (every stallin corner). Yeah, ZCT 14 and 61. Both were excellent, hard and both caused an extreme suffer.
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: CTG on November 05, 2014, 09:12:28 AM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on November 04, 2014, 06:49:58 PM
can the ZCT61 drivers re-use their replays?

The track name is different, so you can "re-use" old replays only with some hexediting. (Quite easy one, but still...)
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: alanrotoi on November 06, 2014, 05:13:02 PM
That's not true and you know it :P
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: CTG on November 06, 2014, 06:16:06 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on November 06, 2014, 05:13:02 PM
That's not true and you know it :P

how? ::)

What I would do to re-use my old replay:

- stopping the old one 0.05 seconds before the end, save it
- make a 59.65 long unfinished replay on ZCT160
- replace the key press part of the new replay with the old one
- finish the new replay

It's about 2 minutes in a decent hexeditor. And it wouldn't be the first time I use this method... :D
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: alanrotoi on November 06, 2014, 09:00:12 PM
haha ok It's worthless to say more :D
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: BöllérJani on November 10, 2014, 02:37:08 PM
It's a very difficult circuit... ::)
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: alanrotoi on November 10, 2014, 04:53:47 PM
Yes and I took the IDK shortcut :D
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: CTG on November 10, 2014, 06:45:53 PM
IDK?
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: alanrotoi on November 10, 2014, 07:01:32 PM
Quote from: CTG on November 10, 2014, 06:45:53 PM
IDK?

haha IDC.  ;D
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: CTG on November 11, 2014, 09:38:48 AM
ZCT 61 vs ZCT 160, the old times were also corrected. It's quite a sad comparison - especially because now we all know the path used on ZCT 61...

Where would you finish on ZCT 61 with this result?


   ZCT 61 - 1      Ayrton      46.25   
   ZCT 61 - 2      CTG      46.57   
   ZCT 61 - 3      Argammon      46.64   
   ZCT 61 - 4      Alain      47.07   
   ZCT 61 - 5      Chulk      47.81   
   ZCT 61 - 6      Renato Biker      48.48   
   1      CTG      49.06   
   ZCT 61 - 7      Zak McKracken      49.22   
   ZCT 61 - 8      vamologocomisso      50.08   
   ZCT 61 - 9      DarkChaser      50.23   
   ZCT 61 - 10      Mark L. Rivers      53.27   
   ZCT 61 - 11      Alan Rotoi      55.38   
   ZCT 61 - 12      Bonzai Joe      55.61   
   ZCT 61 - 13      AbuRaf70      55.85   
   ZCT 61 - 14      Mislav      55.85   
   2      Rokker Zsolti      56.81   
   3      Akoss Poo      56.98   
   4      dreadnaut      1:01.54   
   5      Böllér Jani      1:02.84   
   ZCT 61 - 15      SuperBrian      1:09.81   
   6      AbuRaf 70      1:10.60   
   ZCT 61 - 16      SergioBaro      1:12.23   
   ZCT 61 - 17      Krys TOFF      1:12.46   
   ZCT 61 - 18      Leo Ramone      1:16.52   
   ZCT 61 - 19      Paleke      1:19.60   
   ZCT 61 - 20      satanziege      1:24.63   
   ZCT 61 - 21      Lene      1:34.61   
   ZCT 61 - 22      JTK      1:36.21   
   7      afullo      1:43.03   
   8      Usrin      1:46.94   

Okay, that's pretty one-sided. Maybe the scoreboard after one week would be more informative for the current situation.


   ZCT61 - 1      CTG      46.76   
   ZCT61 - 2      Alain      47.07   
   1      CTG      49.06   
   ZCT61 - 3      Mark L. Rivers      53.27   
   ZCT61 - 4      Chulk      54.72   
   ZCT61 - 5      Bonzai Joe      55.61   
   ZCT61 - 6      Renato Biker      56.04   
   ZCT61 - 7      Alan Rotoi      56.47   
   2      Rokker Zsolti      56.81   
   3      Akoss Poo      56.98   
   4      dreadnaut      1:01.54   
   ZCT61 - 8      Mislav      1:02.36   
   5      Böllér Jani      1:02.84   
   ZCT61 - 9      AbuRaf 70      1:06.11   
   6      AbuRaf 70      1:10.60   
   ZCT61 - 10      Leo Ramone      1:17.73   
   ZCT61 - 11      Krys TOFF      1:25.25   
   ZCT61 - 12      Paleke      1:28.69   
   ZCT61 - 13      JTK      1:36.21   
   7      afullo      1:43.03   
   8      Usrin      1:46.94   
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: SYGYS on November 17, 2014, 11:00:10 AM
Quote from: CTG on November 06, 2014, 06:16:06 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on November 06, 2014, 05:13:02 PM
That's not true and you know it :P

how? ::)

What I would do to re-use my old replay:

- stopping the old one 0.05 seconds before the end, save it
- make a 59.65 long unfinished replay on ZCT160
- replace the key press part of the new replay with the old one
- finish the new replay

It's about 2 minutes in a decent hexeditor. And it wouldn't be the first time I use this method... :D

Maybe its better to actually capture screen using fraps or something like shadowplay. so you can proof you actually driven the whole track if its that easy to fake your timings.
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: CTG on November 17, 2014, 11:17:40 AM
Quote from: SYGYS on November 17, 2014, 11:00:10 AM
Quote from: CTG on November 06, 2014, 06:16:06 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on November 06, 2014, 05:13:02 PM
That's not true and you know it :P

how? ::)

What I would do to re-use my old replay:

- stopping the old one 0.05 seconds before the end, save it
- make a 59.65 long unfinished replay on ZCT160
- replace the key press part of the new replay with the old one
- finish the new replay

It's about 2 minutes in a decent hexeditor. And it wouldn't be the first time I use this method... :D

Maybe its better to actually capture screen using fraps or something like shadowplay. so you can proof you actually driven the whole track if its that easy to fake your timings.


???
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: CTG on November 24, 2014, 08:36:11 AM
nobody?
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: alanrotoi on November 29, 2014, 08:12:38 AM
Will Rokker and Boller push out Akoss from the podium?

Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: CTG on November 29, 2014, 08:34:47 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on November 29, 2014, 08:12:38 AM
Will Rokker and Boller push out Akoss from the podium?

Will Ayrton re-appear?
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: CTG on November 29, 2014, 08:57:48 AM
I won't improve my current lap. It's not worth. Several pipsqueaks can beat it easily, if they are motivated enough.
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: CTG on November 29, 2014, 09:20:30 AM

   ZCT 61 - 1      Ayrton      46.25   
   ZCT 61 - 2      CTG      46.57   
   ZCT 61 - 3      Argammon      46.64   
   ZCT 61 - 4      Alain      47.07   
   ZCT 61 - 5      Chulk      47.81   
   ZCT 61 - 6      Renato Biker      48.48   
   1      CTG      49.02   
   ZCT 61 - 7      Zak McKracken      49.22   
   ZCT 61 - 8      vamologocomisso      50.08   
   ZCT 61 - 9      DarkChaser      50.23   
   2      Rokker Zsolti      52.41   
   ZCT 61 - 10      Mark L. Rivers      53.27   
   3      Böllér Jani      55.30   
   ZCT 61 - 11      Alan Rotoi      55.38   
   ZCT 61 - 12      Bonzai Joe      55.61   
   ZCT 61 - 13      AbuRaf70      55.85   
   ZCT 61 - 14      Mislav      55.85   
   4      Akoss Poo      56.98   
   5      Duplode      1:00.06   
   6      dreadnaut      1:01.54   
   7      AbuRaf 70      1:03.59   
   ZCT 61 - 15      SuperBrian      1:09.81   
   ZCT 61 - 16      SergioBaro      1:12.23   
   ZCT 61 - 17      Krys TOFF      1:12.46   
   ZCT 61 - 18      Leo Ramone      1:16.52   
   ZCT 61 - 19      Paleke      1:19.60   
   ZCT 61 - 20      satanziege      1:24.63   
   8      dstien      1:27.08   
   ZCT 61 - 21      Lene      1:34.61   
   ZCT 61 - 22      JTK      1:36.21   
   9      afullo      1:43.03   
   10      Usrin      1:46.94   
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: CTG on November 30, 2014, 11:28:22 PM
Have you ever played a game from sheet? I've spent about 20 hours to reproduce my ZCT61 replay without hexeditor editing, watching the keypresses list from a printed paper and trying,trying,trying. It was pure waste of time.
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: Duplode on November 30, 2014, 11:35:26 PM
Quote from: CTG on November 30, 2014, 11:28:22 PM
Have you ever played a game from sheet? I've spent about 20 hours to reproduce my ZCT61 replay without hexeditor editing, watching the keypresses list from a printed paper and trying,trying,trying. It was pure waste of time.

1200 beats per minute would be quite an accomplishment for even the most skilled virtuoso  :o
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: CTG on November 30, 2014, 11:40:37 PM
Quote from: Duplode on November 30, 2014, 11:35:26 PM
Quote from: CTG on November 30, 2014, 11:28:22 PM
Have you ever played a game from sheet? I've spent about 20 hours to reproduce my ZCT61 replay without hexeditor editing, watching the keypresses list from a printed paper and trying,trying,trying. It was pure waste of time.

1200 beats per minute would be quite an accomplishment for even the most skilled virtuoso  :o

Per minute? ???
Knowing the keypress codes (from paper), it was easy to reproduce most of the 0.2-0.5 seconds long sections (e.g. when you accelerate only). The hardest part to reproduce was surprisingly an "easy" one in 2006.

01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
09 09 09
01 01 01 01 01
09 09 09 09
01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
09 09 09 09 09
01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
09 09 09 09 09
01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
05 05 05
01 01 01 01 01
05 05 05
01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
11 11
01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
11
01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
11 11
01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
09 09 09 09
01 01 01 01 01 01
11
15
05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05
01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
05
01 01
05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05
01
09 09 09
01 01 01 01 01
09 09 09
01 01 01
09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09
05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05
01 01
05
01 01 01 01 01 01
09 09 09
01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
05 05 05
01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02
06 06 06 06 06 06 06 06
04 04 04
05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05
01 01 01 01
05 05 05 05 05 05
01 01
04 04 04
05 05
01 01
05 05 05
01 01
05 05 05
01 01
05 05
01
05
01 01 01 01 01
05 05 05 05 05 05
01 01 01 01 01 01
09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09
01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
05
01 01 01
09 09
01 01
09 09 09 09 09 09 09
01
05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05
01
05 05 05 05 05 05 05
01 01 01 01
05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05
01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
09 09 09
01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
09 09 09 09 09
01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
09
01 01 01
21
01
05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05
01 01 01 01 01 01 01
05
01 01 01
05 05 05 05 05
01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
05 05
01 01 01
05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05
01 01 01
05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05
01 01 01 01
05 05 05
01 01
05 05 05 05 05 05 05
01 01 01
05 05
01 01 01 01
09 09 09 09
0A 0A 0A
2A
0A 0A 0A 0A
08
0A
08 08 08
01 01
09 09
01
09 09 09
01
09 09
01 01
09 09
01
09
01
09 09 09
01
09 09
01
05 05
01 01
05 05 05 05 05
15
05
01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05
01
05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05
01 01 01 01 01 01 01
05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05
01 01
05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05
09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09
19 19
01
09 09 09 09 09
08
09
08
0A 0A 0A 0A 0A 0A
04 04
05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05
01 01 01 01 01 01 01
09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09
29
09 09 09 09 09
01 01 01 01 01 01
09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09
05
09 09
01 01 01
05 05 05
04 04
06 06 06
04 04 04
05 05 05 05 05 05
01
05 05 05 05 05
01 01
05 05
01 01
05
15
05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05
09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09
01 01 01 01
05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05
01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09
01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09
01
05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05
09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09
01 01
09 09 09 09 09
01 01 01 01
09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09 09


Quote from: Friker on February 14, 2013, 12:29:08 PM
I have a replay driven up to time T I want to drive 05 05 05 29 29 09 09 09 01 01 01 (F1 heating tires procedure :) ).

plan B: drive 05 05 05 05 05, rewind it 0.10, drive 29 29 09 09 09 09 09, rewind it 0.10, drive 01 01 01.

Friker's plan B became reality.
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: CTG on December 01, 2014, 12:14:13 AM
Quote from: al il professore on November 11, 2003, 01:53:08 AM
     KEYBOARD EVENT BLOCK

     At  offset  0x0722 (new format: 0x0724)  the keyboard event block begins.
     Each  event  is  represented  by one byte  and  can  consist of up to six
     simultanously keypresses (in theory).

     The  following chart shows how keypresses  are encoded. If a specific bit
     is set the corresponding key was pressed, if the bit is clear the key has
     been released.

                           Bit 76543210   Keyboard event
                               ????????
                               ???????+-- Accelerate key pressed
                               ??????+--- Brake key pressed
                               ?????+---- Right key pressed
                               ????+----- Left key pressed
                               ???+------ Shift up key pressed
                               ??+------- Shift down key pressed
                               +--------- Unused (should be 0)

6 keys - in practice, you can press only two or three. I wonder if some unbelievable magic carpet replays in the past contained some 3+ key code...

00 - nothing
01 - accelerate
02 - brake
04 - right
05 - right + accelerate
06 - right + brake
08 - left
09 - left + accelerate
0A - left + brake
10 - shift up
11 - shift up + accelerate
12 - shift up + brake
14 - shift up + right
15 - shift up + right + accelerate
16 - shift up + right + brake
18 - shift up + left
19 - shift up + left + accelerate
1A - shift up + left + brake
20 - shift down
21 - shift down + accelerate
22 - shift down + brake
24 - shift down + right
25 - shift down + right + accelerate
26 - shift down + right + brake
28 - shift down + left
29 - shift down + left + accelerate
2A - shift down + left + brake
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: alanrotoi on December 01, 2014, 04:29:11 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on November 29, 2014, 08:12:38 AM
Will Rokker and Boller push out Akoss from the podium?

It seems they couldn't but we can't deny they tried. Their skills are getting better, congratulations. Podium with auto-transmission, well done!
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: CTG on December 01, 2014, 05:04:20 PM
I guess the hidden replays are not revealed yet.
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: alanrotoi on December 01, 2014, 05:16:42 PM
Oh! I can't wait to see the final results then.
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: afullo on December 01, 2014, 11:02:08 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 01, 2014, 05:04:20 PM
I guess the hidden replays are not revealed yet.
My 1:27.68 was an hidden replay. ;)
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: CTG on December 01, 2014, 11:14:53 PM
Quote from: afullo on December 01, 2014, 11:02:08 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 01, 2014, 05:04:20 PM
I guess the hidden replays are not revealed yet.
My 1:27.68 was an hidden replay. ;)

Oh! Great!
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: Duplode on December 01, 2014, 11:56:57 PM
CTG: could you please post your 48.24 here? If your reconstructed lap is deemed legal, I would like to have a different one as an extra in the Competition Archive.
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: CTG on December 02, 2014, 07:47:28 AM
Quote from: Duplode on December 01, 2014, 11:56:57 PM
CTG: could you please post your 48.24 here? If your reconstructed lap is deemed legal, I would like to have a different one as an extra in the Competition Archive.

Of course, in the evening. It's a bit different line compared to the ZCT61 replay.

However, my old replay's reconstruction should be erased from the scoreboard (lacking novelty) - it would not change the rankings.
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: CTG on December 02, 2014, 07:38:54 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 02, 2014, 07:47:28 AM
Quote from: Duplode on December 01, 2014, 11:56:57 PM
CTG: could you please post your 48.24 here? If your reconstructed lap is deemed legal, I would like to have a different one as an extra in the Competition Archive.

Of course, in the evening. It's a bit different line compared to the ZCT61 replay.

However, my old replay's reconstruction should be erased from the scoreboard (lacking novelty) - it would not change the rankings.

Here you are.
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: dreadnaut on December 02, 2014, 07:49:41 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 02, 2014, 07:47:28 AM
However, my old replay's reconstruction should be erased from the scoreboard (lacking novelty) - it would not change the rankings.

Then next time don't send it —wait until the race is over— so people don't have to go around and clean up your stuff :P
Title: Re: ZCT 160 - Oligoway
Post by: Duplode on December 02, 2014, 10:53:54 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 02, 2014, 07:38:54 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 02, 2014, 07:47:28 AM
Quote from: Duplode on December 01, 2014, 11:56:57 PM
CTG: could you please post your 48.24 here? If your reconstructed lap is deemed legal, I would like to have a different one as an extra in the Competition Archive.

Of course, in the evening. It's a bit different line compared to the ZCT61 replay.

However, my old replay's reconstruction should be erased from the scoreboard (lacking novelty) - it would not change the rankings.

Here you are.

Thanks!