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Title: Coronavirus
Post by: CTG on March 15, 2020, 01:51:55 PM
Beyond the news in your country, please share your thoughts and experiences regarding the current COVID-19 panic and local restrictions.

In Hungary, official news are as dumb as usual:
- there is strong connection between COVID infections and migration (powered by George Soros), because the first two registered people were Iranian students
- those students behave scandalously in the hospital and will be banned from the country
- as for me, governmental communication is just like in a blind dictature (of course we can handle everything! - uhm well, sure... The Hungarian public health system alone is a disaster, even without COVID)
- late decisions about the closure of schools
- implementation of some new rules just fails (e.g. restrictions on crossing the country borders)
- the shitty Hungarian football league is still running

Meanwhile it turned out again that the Hungarian moral is fuckin' low...

At least my workplace handles this situation more of less correctly by providing 50% home office, quite strict self-quarantine rules (with a long "you must stay at home, if..." list), restricting live meetings, providing hand sanitizers for all departments, etc.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: dreadnaut on March 15, 2020, 03:18:27 PM
I'm across two countries, being in one and talking to my family in the other. Italy has it tought, but at least where I'm from the situation is ok: food shops open, letting people in one or two at the time, limited or no panicking people buying all the stuff. Elsewhere, I hear, it's more complicated and difficult.

The government in the UK is saying there's nothing to worry about, and they'll close some things in the next weeks, but jolly good, keep doing things as normal. On the other hand, sport associations have closed everything, and any company or university that can have people working from home is doing so. This might be more noticeable where I am in Scotland, because there's a lot of foreign people, each with horror stories from their home country.

I'm working from home full time from Monday. The company let us choose, and I see no reason to share a small space with some who come out of the loo too fast from having actually washed hands. I also think the only reason things are not locked down immediately is to balance victims with economy downturn. Since I'm privileged enough to be able to work from home, I should do my duty to reduce the number of people passing germs outside.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Duplode on March 15, 2020, 06:47:07 PM
Quote from: dreadnaut on March 15, 2020, 03:18:27 PM
I'm across two countries, being in one and talking to my family in the other. Italy has it tought, but at least where I'm from the situation is ok: food shops open, letting people in one or two at the time, limited or no panicking people buying all the stuff. Elsewhere, I hear, it's more complicated and difficult.

Italy sure looks scary right now. My thoughts go to y'all who are or have loved ones there.

Here we are a few days behind the curve, but it's most definitely coming. On the one hand, unlike several other branches of the federal government under the current administration, the health ministry wasn't gutted, or handed to stooges, so there's still hope the official response won't be a complete shitshow. On the other hand, there still is plenty of idiocy going around (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/15/coronavirus-latest-updates-trump-tests-negative-as-spain-orders-nationwide-lockdown-uk-us-australia-italy-europe-global-economy?page=with:block-5e6e607b8f085e564ad848cd#block-5e6e607b8f085e564ad848cd).

At work, there will be a meeting tomorrow, and contingency measures are already on the horizon, though remote work is pretty much uncharted territory at our organisation. At a minimum, the events we promote for the general public are to be suspended (significantly, a large share of their audience is 60+).
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Cas on March 16, 2020, 08:13:57 AM
Hi, guys. Well, we're all having this thing. I think the world hasn't been as homogeneous for a long time!

In Argentina, things are not very different from what happens in other countries in the region or what happened weeks ago in Europe. At the beginning, it was "Alright, only a few cases and they all came from abroad. Don't worry, the virus isn't that deadly" and it has gradually evolved to people crowding in the supermarkets and the current regime finally accepting that it's better for children not to go to school after the ministry of health spoke several unfortunate statements. Workers are still allowed to go to work normally, except 60 year olds or older, but many companies have chosen to take their own measures and, whenever possible, have their employees work from home.

I have been working from home for four years, so nothing has changed in my case. Employees are not afraid of the very likely future event in which they will be told to stay home, because with this regime, they surely will be given fully-paid leave and employers are not allowed to easily fire anybody. They don't see that if this extends long, companies will start to go bankrupt and they will end up jobless anyway. Besides the economic concern, people wonder if the speed at which cases will multiply will be slow enough for the health system to manage them. My guess is it won't, but on the good side, if things happen fast, at least they will be briefer. As long as one doesn't get seriously ill during that peak, they will be able to get the necessary medical attention. At least, this is what we hope.

So, yes, Argentina is also reacting too slow, but as I've said, this has a bad and a good side. Let us protect our old folks and take care of not getting sick of something else during this outbreak. It could be more dangerous to, say, get a gastroenteritis precisely now, that the health system is in jeopardy, than catching a CoViD19, which miiiight kill you, but most likely, will not.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: CTG on April 10, 2020, 03:23:16 PM
All you have to know about Vik(ta)tor Orbán:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/01/europe/coronavirus-and-the-threat-to-democracy-intl/index.html

Meanwhile, our district became far the most infected region in Hungary. 14% of the overall Hungarian cases were registered here, while the population of the district gives only 0.9% of the country.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Overdrijf on April 10, 2020, 10:36:44 PM
In the Netherlands we're now getting to the phase where we feel the outbreak is under control and at least as long as the current measures last the virus will not overload our health system. (The hospitals are still in emergency mode, with lots of extra beds and equipment, but it looks like we won't be needing an even bigger emergency mode, which is good because that was going to get tricky.) So with the immediate problems under control researchers can look a little further, and they found that based on the statistics of how many people die now vs in a regular year we're probably under-reporting the amount of corona deaths by about a factor 2.

Now we have been a little short on tests, but overall we're not really the most disorganized country ever, so it could well be the case that the numbers for a bunch of other countries are off by roughly the same factor or more.

Another bit of semi-recent results showed 40% of our old people homes had had at least one corona infection. So that raises quite a few questions about how far and wide the disease has actually spread.

It's still a little surreal. I know people in say Afghanistan will feel differently about this, but over here at least this thing is easily the biggest crisis since World War 2. Not just in terms of response and measures, the amount of people dying per week now is higher than it has been since the end of the war. (Of course the amount of old people that were alive was pretty high as well, and we really haven't had a lot of deadly stuff happen to us since then.)


On a more personal note to people like CTG who live in the risky areas: stay safe, or at least let your older relatives stay safe.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: CTG on September 04, 2020, 06:06:06 PM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2020/08/11/107-year-old-nj-woman-beats-coronavirus-after-surviving-childhood-case-of-spanish-flu/

The real world Unbreakables...  :o
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Cas on November 07, 2020, 10:22:52 PM
I read the article posted by CTG just today. Amazing!

An update of the thing here... I have seen in media not just from Argentina, but from other countries, that Argentina's quarantine has been "the longest in the world" in those words. I don't really know if that's accurate. For instance, I understand that Colombia has been in quarantine for approximately the same amount of time and most countries, I'm not sure. But I can say it definitely is long and still ongoing. The reason for this, in my opinion, is that we went into very strict lockdown at a time when there was a very tiny amount of cases so the thing got slowed down a lot, but not stopped. Of course, the government didn't do anything else so that prolongation has been useless.

Most of the time of the quarantine, while we heard about cases in the media, most of us (except people living in the metropolitan area of Buenos Aires) have not known anybody personally who had been infected so it all appear very unreal. Yet, you would ask people and scepticism wouldn't get to the point of denial of the virus, thankfully (of course, there have been exceptions). About two to three weeks ago, we reached the point in my town (Córdoba) when everybody knows somebody personally who's infected or has been. It does look like the peak. Problem is, this has been so long that, precisely now that we need people staying at home, they are no longer willing to. Even province governments have felt forced to relax the measures to provent more shops going backrupt.

The good thing about this is that the peak is the fastest point and there already are signs of things starting to move back to normal. Hospitals in my town are almost full, but not overcrowded anymore. There's a lot of talking about the vaccine, but let's get real: we can't make that happen any faster and if we can, it's not safe. The summer is approaching and people are wanting to go on anything that feels slightly like vacation. I don't think anyone or anything will be able to stop them.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: CTG on November 12, 2020, 11:44:01 PM
Are you an egoist world class football player? Are you infected with COVID-19?

Plan A: act like Ibrahimovic, with humour and responsibility: https://www.goal.com/en/news/you-are-not-zlatan-ibrahimovic-urges-others-to-not-challenge/8s7ds47xqdrt1ojw9vnjzg33g

Plan B: act like gaynaldo - the rest of world is just your muppet show: https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/cristiano-ronaldo-says-that-the-pcr-test-%E2%80%9Cis-bull-%E2%80%9D/56411

Zlatan is legend, probably the best classic striker ever (with a 6th sense to score from ANYWHERE). cr7 is just metrosexual penalty scorer and world no. 2 (or rather 3), behind the ARG midget and Zlatan.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: CTG on April 05, 2021, 09:47:44 AM
Vaccinated...
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: dreadnaut on April 05, 2021, 09:13:44 PM
Quote from: CTG on April 05, 2021, 09:47:44 AM
Vaccinated...

Yay! Towards a summer of less worry and fear!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Cas on April 05, 2021, 10:55:54 PM
There's a mess here with the matter of vaccination. Very few vaccines and it seems only people who are direct friends of the government are getting vaccinated. Even worse, the people handling the vaccines are not really trustworthy, so we can't tell if we're being given a placebo or a vaccine that's lost its refrigeration at some point because it's clear that we'd be given it anyway and not told. So we just have to be hopeful.

Anyway, I estimate that by the end of this year, there will be so many vaccines in the world of every one of the laboratories that we won't know where to store them!  They will be as common or more than flu vaccines. Same thing that happened with masks. Remember when they used to be so expensive and difficult to find?  Ha, ha.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: alanrotoi on April 06, 2021, 02:11:56 AM
The second wave is already here. No strict lockdowns so expect more cases/deaths. BTW all the labs such AstraZeneca, Sinopharm, Sputnik V (the Russian one) and others delayed their delivery of the vaccines so there are less than the expected for April. Anyway there are more than 7 million of vaccines (those we already have plus those who are on the way). It's a good number but I think we need a bit more millions at least.

I think I won't have the vaccine this year but my parents and my wife (she's a teacher) will be.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 06, 2021, 09:06:08 AM
I also got the first dose of my vaccine on Sunday (Sputnik V). After some mild side effects, I'm okay now.

Here we experience the third wave where around 8000 people are found to be infected and 250 people die per day on average (in a ~10 million country)... Hungary is severely hit in this wave.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: CTG on April 06, 2021, 12:01:18 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 06, 2021, 09:06:08 AM
I also got the first dose of my vaccine on Sunday (Sputnik V). After some mild side effects, I'm okay now.

Here we experience the third wave where around 8000 people are found to be infected and 250 people die per day on average (in a ~10 million country)... Hungary is severely hit in this wave.

The normal death rate in Hungary was ~300-400 people/day before COVID-19. We have no weekly statistics about the third wave so far, but at the peak of the second wave in late November / early December 2020 it was 550-600 people/day. The current one will be even more serious...

The above numbers can be a bit misleading: a regular influenza wave can also increase this number to ~500/day.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: alanrotoi on April 06, 2021, 02:21:12 PM
That's too many deaths  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: CTG on April 14, 2021, 05:55:43 PM
Today morning: loss of smell, weakness - however, no other flu-like symptoms so far. Might be a last minute infection before the vaccine starts to work effectively...

Now I am banned from the office and will be tested tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: alanrotoi on April 14, 2021, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: CTG on April 14, 2021, 05:55:43 PM
Today morning: loss of smell, weakness - however, no other flu-like symptoms so far. Might be a last minute infection before the vaccine starts to work effectively...

Now I am banned from the office and will be tested tomorrow morning.

Take care!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Daniel3D on April 14, 2021, 06:32:56 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on April 14, 2021, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: CTG on April 14, 2021, 05:55:43 PM
Today morning: loss of smell, weakness - however, no other flu-like symptoms so far. Might be a last minute infection before the vaccine starts to work effectively...

Now I am banned from the office and will be tested tomorrow morning.

Take care!
Indeed, take care!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Cas on April 14, 2021, 08:47:39 PM
Oh!  Yes, take care of yourself. My brother also experienced loss of smell and some annoying headache and mild fever. Then he recovered quickly. The loss of smell persisted for a couple more weeks after he was feeling OK and no longer contagious. It makes sense because it's probably caused by sensory cell death and they have to regrow. What I mean is, clear symptoms are there for you to be aware, not to be stressed and worried. Relax and take care and you'll be fine!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Duplode on April 14, 2021, 10:12:13 PM
Quote from: CTG on April 14, 2021, 05:55:43 PM
Today morning: loss of smell, weakness - however, no other flu-like symptoms so far. Might be a last minute infection before the vaccine starts to work effectively...

Now I am banned from the office and will be tested tomorrow morning.

May it go away soon, whatever it is!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: CTG on April 16, 2021, 11:55:31 PM
Quote from: Duplode on April 14, 2021, 10:12:13 PM
Quote from: CTG on April 14, 2021, 05:55:43 PM
Today morning: loss of smell, weakness - however, no other flu-like symptoms so far. Might be a last minute infection before the vaccine starts to work effectively...

Now I am banned from the office and will be tested tomorrow morning.

May it go away soon, whatever it is!

Thanks! It seems the late side effects tricked me - PCR test is negative.

After the loss of smell, the so called "Moderna arm" symptom appeared, followed by severe lymph node swelling and muscle pain. Now it's almost gone. Or I hope so.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Cas on April 17, 2021, 08:19:29 PM
Hope you're completely recovered soon!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on May 22, 2021, 06:34:06 PM
After more than 6 months of evening/night curfew, it is now allowed to go to take a night walk. (Due to significantly decreasing COVID infection rates and increasing vaccinations.) Again, I'm living in Kazincbarcika. Kazincwuhancika is no more. I hope, forever.

4 Nov 2020: night curfew (0-5 a.m.)
11 Nov 2020: evening and night curfew (8 p.m.-5 a.m.)*
6 April 2021: night curfew (10 p.m.-5 a.m.)*
24 April 2021: night curfew (11 p.m.-5 a.m.)*
1 May 2021: night curfew (0-5 a.m.)**
23 May 2021: no curfew

*except for walking with the dog within the 500 m diameter circle from your house
**except for walking with the dog within the 500 m diameter circle from your house, and for fishing
(other exceptions were night shift working, COVID tests etc. of course)
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Cas on May 23, 2021, 07:56:15 PM
Well, in Argentina, there's a duality between what's allowed in theory and what people actually do. On Thursday or Friday evening, it was announced that we'd be going back to phase 1 beginning on Saturday (yesterday). The national government had already attempted something similar in the Buenos Aires surroundings some time ago and it hadn't worked. Now they have support from the governors of different provinces. This phase 1, however, is supposed to be only for nine days, after which, we'd be back to how we've been doing and then, the following weekend, we'd try another phase 1 and so on, like intermittent, if I understood correctly.

This sounds smarter than previous attempts because it is known that people are not listening and if at least, they see they will have a chance later to go out, then maybe they stay at their homes for the days of curfew. Or so I though. Yesterday, I went for a walk nearby, with my mask, of course, and to buy bread. What I saw makes it clear it just didn't work. More than half of people are not taking any measures, even the ones that are easiest to take!  Really, there are some things that I understand about people who complain, like... businesses need to work to some measure because they need to survive or it will all collapse, I agree. But...wearing a mask, not hanging out for just drinking... simple things and they don't do them!  I guess it's like a movie we just have to watch :(

Personally, I have to say my family is doing fine. My parents already received their vaccines... at least the first dose. So it's something. Hope you guys are all OK!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Overdrijf on June 20, 2021, 12:52:50 PM
I too have now seen the end of my first world problem of not being allowed a vaccine by our well-intentioned but not extremely competent health minister. And it looks like he might actually be trying to deliver on his promises of letting us go on vacation too? As I said, first world problems, but those are the problems I have, so I'll still be complaining about them. Although like all of our government's plans these too are coming together at the last second of the last minute, over a year after the initial immediate crisis moments. Because dependable plans are so overrated. I also feel kind of bad for people younger than me, as now suddenly everything at ones is being opened up with very few measures in place, just in time to get them sick right before their first dose. Then again, if I were them I would probably prefer this over the alternative of another month in semi-quarantine.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: alanrotoi on September 30, 2021, 07:13:00 PM
I got vaccinated this noon with 2nd dose of AstraZeneca so I think I'll feel like shit in few hours (just like 1st dose) :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on September 30, 2021, 09:22:48 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on September 30, 2021, 07:13:00 PM
I got vaccinated this noon with 2nd dose of AstraZeneca so I think I'll feel like shit in few hours (just like 1st dose) :-\

Adenovirus vector vaccines usually generate milder side effects after second jab than after first dose (unlike mRNS vaccines).

In April, after both of my Sputnik V vaccines, I only felt mild side effects like slightly elevated body temperature, fatigue, mild pain in my arms, deconcentratedness. I felt my head being ~20 kg heavier than it is. It lasted for 1-1.5 days. For the second time, it was even milder than the first one, I could take a small hike and drive the car on that day.

It is a pity, but with this vaccine - despite being a good and effective one - I cannot visit all the countries I would like. However, I could have a summer holiday in Croatia and Slovenia and I can still visit the beloved mountains in a country presently called Slovakia.

Now I am thinking in a third shot of vaccine, but according to the procedure used in Hungary, I must select a different vaccine, Sinopharm, Pfizer and Moderna are available. It is still a debated question whether a third jab from a Western vaccine can make me eligible to be considered as a fully vaccinated person in all EU countries or not.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: alanrotoi on September 30, 2021, 11:23:10 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on September 30, 2021, 09:22:48 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on September 30, 2021, 07:13:00 PM
I got vaccinated this noon with 2nd dose of AstraZeneca so I think I'll feel like shit in few hours (just like 1st dose) :-\
It is a pity, but with this vaccine - despite being a good and effective one - I cannot visit all the countries I would like. However, I could have a summer holiday in Croatia and Slovenia and I can still visit the beloved mountains in a country presently called Slovakia.


Yep, same here. We must remember it's not the vaccine but politics that doesn't allow people to travel.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Cas on October 03, 2021, 03:32:33 AM
True, this is very inconvenient. I have the two doses of Sputnik and I know this vaccine is not recognised in as many countries to allow for travel. On the other hand, it does its job as a vaccine (as long as we truly have received what we were told we received, of course, but there's no option but to trust). But I think soon there will be so many vaccines everywhere, that we'll be able to choose when to get re-vaccinated and with which vaccines, etc. (because after a year or so, any of the vaccines will no longer be effective and we'll need the shots again). When this becomes a normal thing, it'll be easier, hopefully.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: alanrotoi on October 03, 2021, 05:11:22 AM
The WHO says in one of two months Sputnik V will be approved.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Cas on October 04, 2021, 12:42:25 AM
That would be great!  I hope many countries start recognising it
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Daniel3D on October 28, 2021, 07:22:17 PM
Well. COVID has been around for a while now. And so far it has been at least 1 degree removed from my family.
But today my daughter (4) developed a strong fever and I started to cough. I work in health care and my wife has a day care.

I've been vaccinated in January but still.
I've booked a COVID test for the both of us tomorrow morning.

There is a first for everything...
Probably nothing.. I really hope that it is nothing.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Duplode on October 28, 2021, 08:51:50 PM
Likely nothing, but even trivial symptoms have an edge these days... may the tests show this isn't the first time for y'all!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: alanrotoi on October 28, 2021, 11:29:10 PM
Quote from: Duplode on October 28, 2021, 08:51:50 PM
Likely nothing, but even trivial symptoms have an edge these days... may the tests show this isn't the first time for y'all!

That's right! Everything is gonna be allright Daniel!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Cas on October 30, 2021, 12:43:04 AM
In my family, so far, two people got it. My brother got it first and he did feel a little sick, though not that much, like a regular flu. After he recovered, he had lost his sense of smell and remained so for a week or two. My sister was feeling completely normally a few days ago and had been spending time with a friend of hers. The girl developed some symptoms, so both went and got tested. To their surprise, my sister tested positive and the other girl tested negative. It's been over a week and she still has no symptoms. My brother lives in his apartment and my sister lives here, but since she suspected and went for a test, she has been staying at her friend's place, so we're not exposed. Nobody else in the house got it.

It's important to point out that both my sister and my brother are in their middle twenties and are extremely careless about the virus. For contrast, my father's wife, who also lives here, works everyday at a shop where she faces one person after another all the time, but because she's careful and follows protocol, never got the virus. It looks like being careless and getting drunk with 20 friends or so three times a week definitely makes you more likely to catch the virus!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 05, 2021, 03:12:34 PM
I am officially infected with the novel coronavirus now. I am showing symptoms since last Friday and I thought it is a common flu or a bacterial infection first, but since my colleagues told me that they have Covid, I self-tested myself on Tuesday and went to quarantine. Now I am recovering and feeling better (last fever measured 4 days ago), but I still have some remaining symptoms (nausea, sometimes coughing, some weakness).
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: CTG on November 05, 2021, 03:12:42 PM
Poo = biohazard ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 05, 2021, 03:24:38 PM
Quote from: CTG on November 05, 2021, 03:12:42 PM
Poo = biohazard ;D

Funny. Yesterday my colleague just sent me a photo of the door of my room in my workplace: one of our stupid colleagues put a sticker there with a figure of a coronavirus on it and the text: "BIOHAZARD". Of course it is a not an official sign, but he could do it without any fear: he was infected a year ago with mild symptoms and has two shots of Pfizer vaccine since then.

Currently infected people in my workplace: 6 out of 26 (with the numbers in the previous waves, more than 50 percent has already caught the virus... I know about 14 now plus the suspicious/unknown ones)... Our boss is not the best pandemic manager, he is taking the anti-covid measures too easy...
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: dreadnaut on November 05, 2021, 09:17:38 PM
Ouch! Good to hear you are getting better, though.

Here as well workplaces are becoming the main place where people get sick. The work-from-home thing has faded, and suddenly there is a large new group of people that can be infected, and spends time in enclosed spaces.

I'm lucky enough to only go to the office two days a week, but I feel quite uncomfortable, in particular with collegues getting too close, not wearing masks, etc...
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Duplode on November 05, 2021, 09:59:44 PM
Get well soon, Akoss!

Quote from: dreadnaut on November 05, 2021, 09:17:38 PM
Here as well workplaces are becoming the main place where people get sick. The work-from-home thing has faded, and suddenly there is a large new group of people that can be infected, and spends time in enclosed spaces.

Here, after a dreadful first semester, infections have at last dropped substantially in a consistent way, now that a decent rate of vaccine coverage has been reached. Hopefully things will remain largely that way now that most restrictions are being lifted...
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 07, 2021, 07:14:41 PM
Thanks! I feel much better now. Unfortunately, my best replay is at work, while I am at quarantine at the moment...

On the other hand, the symptoms started to appear on my wife... she got quarantined with me, and this is the effect of being in the same atmosphere constantly...
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: alanrotoi on November 08, 2021, 12:06:07 AM
Damn! Get well soon and take care of your family. I hope it will end soon!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Daniel3D on November 15, 2021, 03:43:59 PM
Well. After the last test (negative btw) I went again this weekend with my wife and two of my kids.  Several klassmates had Corona and my daughter and I were tested positive. I started developing very mild symptoms today so I may have been very lucky.
Since I work in healthcare.
All not positive have to be tested tomorrow, Friday everyone has to be tested again...
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 16, 2021, 09:40:47 PM
Quote from: Daniel3D on November 15, 2021, 03:43:59 PM
Well. After the last test (negative btw) I went again this weekend with my wife and two of my kids.  Several klassmates had Corona and my daughter and I were tested positive. I started developing very mild symptoms today so I may have been very lucky.
Since I work in healthcare.
All not positive have to be tested tomorrow, Friday everyone has to be tested again...

Ouch, it seems Europe is severely hit by this corona wave this time (again)... Get well soon!

Now I can say that I am recovered, however, I can feel some post-COVID symptoms, it is mostly fatigue, but the coughing is also present to some extent. I escaped from the quarantine yesterday, I also went to work.

Unfortunately, I infected my wife in the meantime. She is getting better, too, but her quarantine lasts till this Saturday. I am doing the day-to-day shopping at the moment...

Unfortunately, my quick-test (antigen) was positive, thus, no PCR test was needed. (Same for my wife.) The EU COVID recovery certificate would demand a positive PCR test, which was not executed... Thus, I still can't go to Western Europe since I am vaccinated with the Sputnik, no matter that I am also recovered from the infection...

By the way, six other colleagues are/were also infected at my workplace. (All of them are vaccinated, with different vaccines.) Apart from me, only one of them, a technician woman is back to work at the moment.

By the way #2, our cat suffered a claw injury during our quarantine... when else? We woke up with a big portion of blood on the floor... fortunately, my father and my sister could bring the cat to the vet...

By the way #3, my sister (Lupuszka, also had some ZakStunts replays earlier) have COVID antibodies in her blood, unlike her workmates (who are also vaccinated, with different vaccines). Maybe she also suffered from COVID in September when she thought to had a flu/cold?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Daniel3D on November 17, 2021, 02:04:21 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 16, 2021, 09:40:47 PM
Quote from: Daniel3D on November 15, 2021, 03:43:59 PM
Well. After the last test (negative btw) I went again this weekend with my wife and two of my kids.  Several klassmates had Corona and my daughter and I were tested positive. I started developing very mild symptoms today so I may have been very lucky.
Since I work in healthcare.
All not positive have to be tested tomorrow, Friday everyone has to be tested again...

Ouch, it seems Europe is severely hit by this corona wave this time (again)... Get well soon!
Europe is gambling between restrictions to fight COVID and leniency to stimulate economics.
They took to much risk this round.
Like in the picture below, they never got the infections back for long after the first wave.
(the first wave didn't have good testing setup so not much data. for comparisment i also included numbers of the hospitalized people that does show the first wave)
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Now I can say that I am recovered, however, I can feel some post-COVID symptoms, it is mostly fatigue, but the coughing is also present to some extent. I escaped from the quarantine yesterday, I also went to work.

Unfortunately, I infected my wife in the meantime. She is getting better, too, but her quarantine lasts till this Saturday. I am doing the day-to-day shopping at the moment...
So far only my oldest daughter is added to the positive party. No symptoms.
My son has trouble breathing at night but doesn't have COVID. My wife took him to the doctor today.
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Unfortunately, my quick-test (antigen) was positive, thus, no PCR test was needed. (Same for my wife.) The EU COVID recovery certificate would demand a positive PCR test, which was not executed... Thus, I still can't go to Western Europe since I am vaccinated with the Sputnik, no matter that I am also recovered from the infection...
PCR testing is free here if you give a sensible reason, no proof required.
But if you have a positive test, everyone in the household have to be tested asap.
Then 5 day after the last positive result, every negative person has to be tested again for sure.
If a positive result comes from that, the all negatives have to be tested again after 5 days.
If you are positive, 7 days quarantine and without symptoms to leave the house.
So, a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: zaqrack on November 18, 2021, 04:34:09 PM
Glad to see everyone healthy!

I'm in quarantine right now. My son tested positive - more than 25% of his class did in the past two weeks. His temperature was 37.2 for a day and had a headache for two days - and that's it. He is as lively as ever.

So by the end of the week I'll finally know whether my tests from late October were false negatives...
Me and my wife and my smaller son had direct contact with a covid+ person (his teacher), then four days later a slight fever, weakness (extreme weakness for my wife), sore throat, complete loss of smell for 3-4 days and I have a slight eye inflammation ever since. And we both had negative PCRs. I actually had two.

Quarantine rules and testing are a joke in Hungary right now. No wonder the virus is spreading heavily. We paid for a PCR for my son to be sure we don't infect others.
If you opt for the free test, you have to call your doctor first (sometimes impossible as they are super overloaded) then it's roughly 3-4 days until you are tested and 2 more to get a result - at least in my area. During which you can freely move subject to your own judgment.     


Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Daniel3D on November 18, 2021, 08:00:20 PM
Quote from: zaqrack on November 18, 2021, 04:34:09 PM
Glad to see everyone healthy!
Relatively speaking, yes. Although I did fail the acetone test this morning so I guess I can't smell at the moment.

The government regulated free PCR tests are a bit difficult to get here as well at the moment. Because of the high amount of cases. But so far it's only the number to make an appointment. There is usually a  local test location where you can be tested within 24 hours. (They scale up a location when needed) results within 48 hours, usually also within 24h (even now) for health care (and teachers and such) you can request a speed test with direct result (15 minutes) but those are a bit further away. Still free though.

My wife and son were both tested negative as well although they have the most symptoms. We fear that the had false negatives as well. But a PCR test can give false positives until 8 weeks after you are cured, so might get one Sunday when they have to be tested again. (The Friday test is postponed to Sunday because my eldest daughter tested positive to.)

I didn't develop symptoms until Tuesday. My daughter who picked it up in school started Saturday with symptoms but she infected me Thursday evening. I seems we reacted very quickly to the changing situation around us and therefore I didn't bring it to work.

Living here has healthcare benefits, but there is still no escape. Also there was a moment that we were about the only country that has all varieties of COVID because of our world trade position.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: dreadnaut on December 14, 2021, 11:02:51 PM
Somehow managed to get an appointment for the "booster" dose, yesterday. After two doses of AstraZeneca, I got a half-dose of Moderna.

And man I've been tired :o  About 24h of fever just above 38°C, aches everywhere.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Cas on December 15, 2021, 12:30:32 AM
I had been told that both AZ and Moderna feel like a bomb. I got the Russian Sputnik V. Very, very light
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Overdrijf on December 15, 2021, 11:22:43 PM
Quote from: Cas on December 15, 2021, 12:30:32 AM
I had been told that both AZ and Moderna feel like a bomb. I got the Russian Sputnik V. Very, very light

Meh, it depends. I had a bit of a stiff arm both times with Astra, basically just the typical local inflammation reaction.

EDIT: I have brainfarts sometimes. I actually had Pfizer.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: alanrotoi on December 16, 2021, 03:02:44 AM
Yep it depends. Astrazeneca 1st shot "killed" me but the second was minimum.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Overdrijf on March 09, 2022, 09:04:13 AM
I've got it, I've got it, oohoo, I've got it.
I'm hip, I'm cool, I'm only two years late.



What? If I've been waiting for something for two years I'm damned well gonna celebrate it.

Maybe have some friends over, throw a party... 8)
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Daniel3D on March 09, 2022, 09:37:11 AM
Well I am recovering from my second round.
And although I didn't really notice it at that moment. (I was tested positive but that was about it)
I am so damn tired all the time. But I can't sleep either. Going to bed at nine feeling intense tired and fatigued and then not being able to sleep until 01:30. And just waking around 5 am again with no reason still feeling tired.
Keep forgetting what I'm doing, can not focus on anything for long..
This round really hit me bad.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: alanrotoi on March 09, 2022, 12:06:10 PM
Damn! Hope you recover soon!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Overdrijf on March 09, 2022, 01:14:13 PM
Yeah, I hope you recover soon too.

As my post might have given away I myself have so far been hit with a pretty mild case.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Usrin on March 09, 2022, 09:56:07 PM
Quote from: Overdrijf on March 09, 2022, 09:04:13 AM
I've got it, I've got it, oohoo, I've got it.
I'm hip, I'm cool, I'm only two years late.

What? If I've been waiting for something for two years I'm damned well gonna celebrate it.

Maybe have some friends over, throw a party... 8)

I had COVID a month ago, just one month after my 3rd dose of Pfizer. I did not have any other symptoms but sore throat, mild coughing and runny nose.
The virus was brought home by my son (13), who got a single dose in October. Neither he was very sick, but had fever and headache in the first 1-2 days.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Daniel3D on March 09, 2022, 11:05:56 PM
Quote from: Overdrijf on March 09, 2022, 01:14:13 PM
Yeah, I hope you recover soon too.

As my post might have given away I myself have so far been hit with a pretty mild case.
I will be alright. It's not really bad, just enough to be noticeable. And strange.
Like I said, i wasn't ill. Just a bit tired. But it still got to me. But it's only 12 days since my positive test.
I am hopeful it won't last.  It hampers my job and if it doesn't go away it could become a real issue.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JTK on March 11, 2022, 07:21:03 AM
Oh my - get better soon! ?🏼
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Daniel3D on March 11, 2022, 06:04:15 PM
Yeah, it's getting better. Started to regain everything yesterday. Had a relatively good night. No trouble at work today.
I'm still a bit forgetful. But it's not nearly as bad as the beginning of the week.