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Title: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Zapper on January 03, 2021, 12:52:36 AM
Hi Stunters!

At last, after some years later, KITT finally arrives to STUNTS!

Although 3rd gen "Pontiac Firebird Trans Am" base car used in series between 1982 and 1985 were mostly powered by 5.7L V8, in Stunts era I found appropriate to use an 1989 "Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am 20th Anniversary version" 3.8L V6 Turbo as a base car for this incurrence, mainly because it was on one of the fastest 3rd gen through the model production years. Performance figures were were based on detailed information in the review found in:
 http://www.gtasourcepage.com/8920thTACDReview.html (http://www.gtasourcepage.com/8920thTACDReview.html)
but since this was a KITT version, performance tunning had to acomplish (as much as possible) special features like: better grip, more breaking capacity, and inclusion of the pursuit mode*.

The "Pursuit mode" is only available in Manual gear box leaving "Auto" gear box for normal/"real" base model acceleration figures. To activate Pursuit mode, accelerate further the "normal" redline (5250rpm), e.g. accelerating in 1st gear at 50MPH, in order to get high reving torque values. With power rating up to 3000 HP (@11000RPM measured by "Caredit3"), 245MH is fastly achieved.

The 3D Modeling was made over Corvette's base, using Anim8or, with KITT blueprints as reference:
 https://getoutlines.com/blueprints/10112/1982-pontiac-firebird-knight-rider-kitt-coupe-blueprints (https://getoutlines.com/blueprints/10112/1982-pontiac-firebird-knight-rider-kitt-coupe-blueprints)

The two paint jobs included normal black KITT and a black/grey KARR colour scheme.

The dash board was made from scratch using several pictures from the show:
 http://knightrideronline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=127993 (http://knightrideronline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=127993)
It shows manual gear box console rather than a auto gear box console (like it should be in KITT), a functional digital speedometer and a simulated bar type tachometer trough 5250rpm (real redline) although it has a visible up to 9000rpm scale.

Well, descriptions aside, I hope this creation can live up to the fans of this car in the STUNTS world.

And now of some pictures attached:
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Zapper on January 03, 2021, 12:56:17 AM
And now the custom car package atached to add directly in to STUNT's folder (updated v1.1):

Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Cas on January 03, 2021, 03:27:18 AM
Amazing, Zapper!!! :D   I'll be glad to put it to use in Race For Kicks!! :)
By the way, with your experience creating cars, I would like you to take a look at CarWorks and Dash Manager and give me any hint on how this could be improved.
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Duplode on January 03, 2021, 05:29:33 AM
Fantastic! This KITT is going straight to the Southern Cross collection as soon as I get the chance   :)

The pursuit mode is truly on demand: you can choose to turn it off entirely (by using auto gears), and even in manual you have a lot of control over when it will be engaged. One extra thing the pursuit mode could enable is a sort of drifting challenge: take a slow dirt track, or perhaps a ZCT77-style off-road course, and race it on manual with only the first gear -- the catch being that if you ever drop below 50 mph you'll lose several seconds in order to reengage pursuit mode.
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: KyLiE on January 03, 2021, 06:30:31 AM
Excellent work! :) I just tried it out and the Pursuit mode works well.  I'm looking forward to using it in a competition!
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Cas on January 03, 2021, 06:39:50 AM
I think this Pursuit mode is similar to what was found the Speedgate can do. I agree that this, being something you can do on demand and not something that will interfere if you don't want it, is a nice feature. I personally like the Speedgate very much and that particular characteristic didn't change that, so I'm going to be very happy with KITT too. I've been looking at the design, both outside and inside and it really is amazing too!  Great work!  I wish it were possible to use a digital tachometer, but you've found a very clever solution.
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Daniel3D on January 03, 2021, 11:13:41 AM
I love it.
It has definitely been worth waiting for.
Amazing work.

Don't understand the pursuit mode yet.
But I've also never driven in manual transmission...  8)
(Just looked up the keys in the manual)

Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: dreadnaut on January 04, 2021, 01:03:42 PM
Well timed: https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/95041485_davids-personal-kitt-knight-rider-car
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Marco on January 06, 2021, 08:55:20 PM
I literally love YOU so much ... I go to start a live NOW !!! Marco Plays Dos Games
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Marco on January 06, 2021, 09:35:14 PM
Well i already loved you because you did the Toyota Corolla Gti that I have owned for real in the nineties in the red color version. Now I double love you because this Knight Rider is simply amazing and crazy. I have a drag test on Stunts and noone can beat it when i engage the Knight Rider trick decrasing the gear. Simply amazing. Check my video on Facebook. Marco Plays Dos Games !!! Thank You So Much
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Daniel3D on January 07, 2021, 08:44:08 AM
Check my video on Facebook. Marco Plays Dos Games !!! Thank You So Much

I did, seen half of the video. Closed the app because someone else needed my attention. Now Facebook has reset and I'm annoyed with it. I'll wait for the YouTube upload  ;)

Nicely done how you "discover" pursuit mode..
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Daniel3D on January 07, 2021, 09:37:39 AM
I'll wait for the YouTube upload  ;)

Thanks    8)
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: CTG on January 14, 2021, 02:40:04 PM
David Hasselhoff likes this.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51QKFpa%2B4cL._AC_.jpg)
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on January 22, 2021, 11:00:08 AM
Thanks a lot for all your World. It's very impressive to have this.
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Zapper on February 27, 2021, 04:41:18 PM
Hi, I'm glad to see that this was car welcome.

And knowing this, I'm here to release an updated version KITT v1.1 with changes on gear console, now it presents an automatic console appearence (left labels) adapted to manual (right labels).

(http://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3636.0;attach=6558)

Although STUNTS has no simulation of an automatic transmition, I made the mimic of a vertical selector with 4 positions for each manual gear selection. This change also brings a faster shifting and minimizes hesitation on acceletarion in SPM mode (when gearing up).

Enjoy.
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on February 27, 2021, 05:35:07 PM
Very very very...and another very good....thanks

One remarks : there were two black in pixels in the first zero on the left on the speedometer.
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Duplode on February 28, 2021, 07:22:15 PM
Right on time for the forthcoming races! The 1.1 K.I.T.T. is available at Southern Cross (http://scr.stunts.hu/mods.html#custom-cars); as the performance was changed everyone should upgrade.

(Speaking of Southern Cross, I have also uploaded three of the recent Ryoma cars -- XJR9 LM, Maserati and NASCAR. Others will follow later in the week.)
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on February 28, 2021, 07:25:28 PM
The limits of 32 cars is now explosed !!!!!
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: GTAMan18 on February 28, 2021, 07:34:26 PM
Just remove the vanilla cars
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: GTAMan18 on February 28, 2021, 07:34:50 PM
The limits of 32 cars is now explosed !!!!!

Or use StuntsCarSwapper
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on February 28, 2021, 07:42:59 PM
I used carswapper
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Zapper on February 28, 2021, 08:39:45 PM
Very very very...and another very good....thanks

One remarks : there were two black in pixels in the first zero on the left on the speedometer.

Hi Ryoma,

Those 2 pixels are black are set by "ins2" resource on STDAzPFT.VSH over 3 "base" digits.
The appearence of those pixels while in-game rendering happens because digital speedometer starts only with "00" rather than "000" (you can compare with Corvette's example). I try to use the dark red on this base "ins2" but that causes bad rendering when the left zero turn into "1" or "2", so I had to leave those 2 pixels in black in order to get a functional "hundreds" of MPH ;)

Speaking of Corvette's dash, do you remember in Accolade's TestDrive Corvette that has an fully digital dashboard?
(http://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3636.0;attach=6628) (https://youtu.be/j92_0tTyyi4 (https://youtu.be/j92_0tTyyi4))

It would be great if it could be done in Stunts...

Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on February 28, 2021, 08:47:37 PM
Hi Zapper, ok I understand.

I remember the corvette dashboard of td1...but I think it's not possible in stunts.
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on October 16, 2021, 05:48:15 PM
Maybe an idea to help kitt
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on October 20, 2021, 08:48:13 PM
An idea.....
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Daniel3D on October 20, 2021, 09:10:32 PM
Looks awesome.
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Zapper on October 21, 2021, 12:19:16 AM
Nice idea Ryoma!
Is it possible?
 
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: alanrotoi on October 21, 2021, 02:00:25 AM
It looks amazing but as for racing I suggest to keep out the trailer.
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on October 21, 2021, 06:02:32 AM
It's not for racing. Only a test.
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Cas on October 21, 2021, 07:30:00 AM
It would still be very impressive to see it race :P
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on October 21, 2021, 07:42:55 AM
For test attached.

@Cas could you make an program wich reduce car0 by a value and keep wheels, 2side polygon etc....
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Daniel3D on October 21, 2021, 10:32:06 AM
For test attached.

@Cas could you make an program wich reduce car0 by a value and keep wheels, 2side polygon etc....
To fit in the showroom I suppose?
Can you not scale it as you want in carworks?
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on October 21, 2021, 11:19:58 AM
Yes absolutly.

I don't know ...I use the first carwork
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Daniel3D on October 21, 2021, 11:46:23 AM
In the latest version you can scale the model I believe.
But (also important) it is not automatically duplicated the car1 and 2.
So changes only apply to car0

You could also just place the truck in the showroom without the trailer.
And mention the trailer in the description.
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Daniel3D on October 21, 2021, 12:06:54 PM
An idea.....
Replace the starting line truck with this one?
Then Kitt can drive out off it.
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Zapper on October 21, 2021, 12:08:50 PM
:o

(http://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3636.0;attach=8475;image)

Daniel, I agree with your point, using it has starting line truck.

Ryoma this is surprisingly wonderful, it actually races on it's way!
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on October 21, 2021, 01:09:24 PM
You could also just place the truck in the showroom without the trailer.
And mention the trailer in the description.

I made a lot of effort on the tralier : the yellow line and the horse.



Ryoma this is surprisingly wonderful, it actually races on it's way!

Miss side tank and the exhaust pipe and some line below the trailer as protective bumper. And the light. Maybe I will explode the number of vertices.
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Daniel3D on October 21, 2021, 01:37:39 PM
I can see you put a lot of work in it.
The trailer should definitely stay in the race models.
For the showroom, scaling the model down to fit will make details very small.
If you don't have the trailer the truck can be larger and you have more vertices to possibly add more details.
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side tank and the exhaust pipe and some line below the trailer as protective bumper. And the light.
Just a thought. I want it to look good to.
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on October 21, 2021, 04:50:21 PM
Some torque curves, the truck is a 1984 GMC General and the engine are Detroit Diesel 6-71, 6V92, 8V71 & 8v92 or Caterpillar 3406
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on October 21, 2021, 04:57:01 PM
I hesitate
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on October 21, 2021, 09:00:10 PM
Some graphics improvment...and reach the limit of 255.

I have a problem with my phone, rename 87693 in stflag.3sh.
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Cas on October 22, 2021, 08:32:34 AM
Wow!  That looks extreme!  :o
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on October 22, 2021, 08:06:26 PM
Wow!  That looks extreme!  :o

What about this ? Lol
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Cas on October 22, 2021, 08:56:19 PM
Those must be very strong wheels and a super fast truck!  ;D
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on October 23, 2021, 08:33:54 PM
A very know séquence. The hit box is only for the truck not for the trailer. We can drive bellow the trailer....
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: alanrotoi on October 23, 2021, 09:18:00 PM
I love it! :)
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: CTG on October 23, 2021, 09:24:32 PM
Hahaha, excellent!
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Daniel3D on October 23, 2021, 09:26:26 PM
Make the truck the starting line truck and reverse the Kitt model.
Then we have a animation of Kitt driving out (or into) the truck...   ::)
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on October 23, 2021, 10:00:56 PM
I don't know how to do that. I let you do.

And what about the same truck in red with the prancing horse for the Ferrari Édition ?
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Daniel3D on October 24, 2021, 12:01:27 PM
I don't know how to do that. I let you do.
it is not really complicated. But a bit of work.
* Scale the truck to fit the backside of the starting line truck.
* Remove back door and safe model in the right location.
* Clean starting line truck off all except back door, ramp and floor for car
* Export and combine with truck.
* Import in stressed and fix animation if needed.
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* For the car, export to external editor
* Rotate 180
* Import, save as new car

I'll try to make time for it. May take a while
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And what about the same truck in red with the prancing horse for the Ferrari Édition ?
Sounds cool.
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on October 24, 2021, 12:53:27 PM
I'm out but I will post here the finish shape...careful it close 255 vertices.

Is it possible to have the truck 3sh in order to make a Ferrari Édition ?
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Daniel3D on October 24, 2021, 02:42:20 PM
I'm out but I will post here the finish shape...careful it close 255 vertices.

Is it possible to have the truck 3sh in order to make a Ferrari Édition ?
http://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?topic=3586.msg75764#msg75764 (http://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?topic=3586.msg75764#msg75764)
This contains the right 3sh of the drivable version.
The original is in the game1 or 2 p3s
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on October 24, 2021, 05:27:25 PM
Here the wip...
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on October 31, 2021, 07:44:02 AM
FLAG truck is finished.
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: alanrotoi on October 31, 2021, 12:44:25 PM
Nice! Shouldn't be higher the f1 view? What is its height?
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on October 31, 2021, 12:51:09 PM
I used Daniel's truck value = 44.

Do you think we have to use a higher value?

Edit : I modified by 60
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Daniel3D on October 31, 2021, 03:34:08 PM
I used Daniel's truck value = 44.

Do you think we have to use a higher value?

Edit : I modified by 60
I didn't really think much about it at the time. It feels good for the truck. But I think yours is higher.
Title: Re: Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am - K.I.T.T.
Post by: Ryoma on October 31, 2021, 10:44:42 PM
One advantage for GAR compétition : you always have one pixel on the road according to the size of the truck...lol