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Title: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: CTG on January 10, 2021, 02:51:25 PM
Another Pooish crap creature from Mr(s) Móricz.

Why not Kazincwuhancika anyway?

Obligatory shit-throwing mode OFF  ;D
Title: Re: New teams for 2021
Post by: Daniel3D on January 12, 2021, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: CTG on January 12, 2021, 12:55:22 PM
Quote from: Daniel3D on January 12, 2021, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: CTG on January 12, 2021, 12:23:10 AM
Looping Warriors will dominate 2021. BÖFF!!! ;D
Is that a challenge??

Nope, a fact. (At least in böffing and in beer consumption.)

How many times did you fail the loop to bridge jump?
Title: Re: Re: New teams for 2021
Post by: CTG on January 12, 2021, 03:38:10 PM
Quote from: Daniel3D on January 12, 2021, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: CTG on January 12, 2021, 12:55:22 PM
Quote from: Daniel3D on January 12, 2021, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: CTG on January 12, 2021, 12:23:10 AM
Looping Warriors will dominate 2021. BÖFF!!! ;D
Is that a challenge??

Nope, a fact. (At least in böffing and in beer consumption.)

How many times did you fail the loop to bridge jump?

Actually, it's a surprisingly easy one. The harder part is to keep high speed without crashing.
Title: Re: Re: New teams for 2021
Post by: Cas on January 12, 2021, 10:46:31 PM
I made a jump from loop to bridge too. It took me just a few tries and I'm not very good at shortcuts!  Unless I'm starting to learn, ha, ha.
Title: Re: Re: New teams for 2021
Post by: Daniel3D on January 13, 2021, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: Cas on January 12, 2021, 10:46:31 PM
I made a jump from loop to bridge too. It took me just a few tries and I'm not very good at shortcuts!  Unless I'm starting to learn, ha, ha.
I would like to make it, but I'm not there yet.. I'm more of a OWOOT [in this case 'one wheel on over TILE'] style driver.
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: Cas on January 13, 2021, 08:32:17 PM
In that case, it'd be nice to see you in Race For Kicks :D
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: Daniel3D on January 13, 2021, 09:03:27 PM
Quote from: Cas on January 13, 2021, 08:32:17 PM
In that case, it'd be nice to see you in Race For Kicks :D
I hope to make some more time for this in the future. So, we'll see.
Title: BÖFF!
Post by: CTG on January 13, 2021, 10:40:57 PM
Somebody please take the lead. It's boring to be first with such a crappy AUTO TRM lap.
Title: Re: BÖFF!
Post by: Daniel3D on January 13, 2021, 10:48:57 PM
Quote from: CTG on January 13, 2021, 10:40:57 PM
Somebody please take the lead. It's boring to be first with such a crappy AUTO TRM lap.
Hahaha. I'm working on it. But I'm not as good as I was 20 years ago. Been driving for fun lately, not for speed.
If I can get my skills back, it probably not this track. Maybe not this year...
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: CTG on January 13, 2021, 11:04:27 PM
Quote from: Daniel3D on January 13, 2021, 10:48:57 PM
Quote from: CTG on January 13, 2021, 10:40:57 PM
Somebody please take the lead. It's boring to be first with such a crappy AUTO TRM lap.
Hahaha. I'm working on it. But I'm not as good as I was 20 years ago. Been driving for fun lately, not for speed.
If I can get my skills back, it probably not this track. Maybe not this year...

It comes back quite quickly. One or two months.

Actually, the longest time without playing Stunts was... erm... maybe between 1995 and 1997. :D Without competition: 2015-2018.
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: Daniel3D on January 13, 2021, 11:23:26 PM
I hardly played the past 10 years..  so we'll see.
But thanks for the positivity  8)
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: afullo on January 13, 2021, 11:32:49 PM
Quote from: CTG on January 13, 2021, 11:04:27 PM
Without competition: 2015-2018.

My life changed enough to keep myself away from addicting games (http://zak.stunts.hu/index.php?page=newsarc&year=2018&month=4). :P
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: CTG on January 13, 2021, 11:48:42 PM
Quote from: afullo on January 13, 2021, 11:32:49 PM
Quote from: CTG on January 13, 2021, 11:04:27 PM
Without competition: 2015-2018.

My life changed enough to keep myself away from addicting games (http://zak.stunts.hu/index.php?page=newsarc&year=2018&month=4). :P

Check the number of replays sent before 2015 and after 2018. You will see a huge difference. (In number of ZSC messageboard/forum posts, too.)
Title: Re: New teams for 2021
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 15, 2021, 09:05:25 PM
Quote from: Daniel3D on January 12, 2021, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: CTG on January 12, 2021, 12:55:22 PM
Quote from: Daniel3D on January 12, 2021, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: CTG on January 12, 2021, 12:23:10 AM
Looping Warriors will dominate 2021. BÖFF!!! ;D
Is that a challenge??

Nope, a fact. (At least in böffing and in beer consumption.)

How many times did you fail the loop to bridge jump?

Well, it is a./ not that difficult b./ not that worthy. Of course it is worthy, but the grass shortcut from the loop yields almost as good sector time as the jump into the elevated road.

It happened in the past that a./ I designed a difficult/annoying track 'cos I planned not to race on it b./ designed a track which was planned to be a good one, but turned out to be an annoying one... but this time, I enjoy racing on my track - not an ordinary fact.

My replay... erm, I've done all the tricks, sent a more-or-less decent replay... now I wonder if I am keen on working on a perfect replay with efficient advanced replay handling or not...
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: dreadnaut on January 15, 2021, 11:39:31 PM
Sorry about the loop jump, I don't know if it was there in the original. To follow the "make a small change" tradition, I swapped the loop and the slalom tiles, thinking it would have no effect. Turns out it makes the loop-to-bridge jump a thing :o
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on January 18, 2021, 09:25:02 AM
Quote from: dreadnaut on January 15, 2021, 11:39:31 PM
Sorry about the loop jump, I don't know if it was there in the original. To follow the "make a small change" tradition, I swapped the loop and the slalom tiles, thinking it would have no effect. Turns out it makes the loop-to-bridge jump a thing :o

Well, I didn't know/remember this make a small change tradition. I wondered when I saw CTG's replay and then drove the lap myself how could this loop jump happen, because it wasn't planned... but now I understand, yes, the loop and the slalom tiles were in different position. It is definitely not a 'small' change. However, it doesn't really bother me, a neat trick is available with this.
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: CTG on January 31, 2021, 12:11:21 AM
I guess at least 5 pipsqueaks will be under 1 minute.
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: CTG on February 06, 2021, 10:12:31 PM
Whatever happens, this might be one of the strongest races of the last 10 years.
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: CTG on February 06, 2021, 11:57:48 PM
Winning replay: landing in the cork up/down OR driving on the left edge of the bridge and cork up/down. The latter one almost worked. Almost. Falling on the grass OR crashing. I should drink less in the last hours.
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: Duplode on February 07, 2021, 12:08:43 AM
Quote from: CTG on February 06, 2021, 11:57:48 PM
OR driving on the left edge of the bridge and cork up/down

I did try that, but never actually got close to landing it successfully. 
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: dreadnaut on February 07, 2021, 12:12:14 AM
Quote from: CTG on January 31, 2021, 12:11:21 AM
I guess at least 5 pipsqueaks will be under 1 minute.

Four, you got really close this time :o

Quote from: CTG on February 06, 2021, 10:12:31 PM
Whatever happens, this might be one of the strongest races of the last 10 years.

Looking for the back, it was quiet an exciting one! I was really curious to see what would hide in the quiet replays, and I wasn't expecting Alan!
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: CTG on February 07, 2021, 12:18:53 AM
Quote from: dreadnaut on February 07, 2021, 12:12:14 AM
Quote from: CTG on January 31, 2021, 12:11:21 AM
I guess at least 5 pipsqueaks will be under 1 minute.

Four, you got really close this time :o

I was pretty sure that Marco will send 56.xx.
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: alanrotoi on February 07, 2021, 12:28:24 AM
Quote from: dreadnaut on February 07, 2021, 12:12:14 AM
Quote from: CTG on January 31, 2021, 12:11:21 AM
I guess at least 5 pipsqueaks will be under 1 minute.

Four, you got really close this time :o

Quote from: CTG on February 06, 2021, 10:12:31 PM
Whatever happens, this might be one of the strongest races of the last 10 years.

Looking for the back, it was quiet an exciting one! I was really curious to see what would hide in the quiet replays, and I wasn't expecting Alan!

Yeah, summer vacations :D Anyway there were harder races in the last years. I didn't use a checkpoint system (that's the way I used to race). We are too lazy or too old  for hard races hahaha. I did my best but Dups appeared  ;D. I'll watch his replay as soon as you publish it.

Also there was a nice track design, very enjoyable. It was fun.
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: dreadnaut on February 07, 2021, 12:39:04 AM
If anyone wants to write the race summary, let me know ;D
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: Duplode on February 08, 2021, 03:34:06 AM
Quote from: CTG on February 06, 2021, 10:12:31 PM
Whatever happens, this might be one of the strongest races of the last 10 years.

Let's see where my strength estimator (http://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?topic=3635.0) places it! (You'll note the values are a bit different than the ones in its thread, as I have been tweaking the parameters a bit.)















17C5627.261116008447914
18C14526.975579493661137
19C5226.87208413315566
20C13926.6998624672721
21C22926.575194565937867
22C6626.321600159502207
23C23426.205189571538472
24C5925.1185249762432
25C15025.038353647891064
26C11424.745199676066893
27C15424.6016564495008
28C12423.7926320284004
29C10423.738877557265567

23rd overall, and 13th since 2010. I tend to agree on this race having been even stronger than Z229. I believe the model rates Z229 slightly higher largely because of FinRok taking part. 
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: Duplode on February 10, 2021, 04:33:23 AM
The Cartography top 6 video for Z234 is ready! You can find it at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyylOzK_Vm8 . After watching it all, one thing I'd certainly highlight is the strong performance of Alan, even beyond pulling off the best line at the next-to-last sector before the u/d cork.
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: alanrotoi on February 10, 2021, 08:53:54 PM
Thank you! Maybe I'm not as rusty as I thought but still far from what I was.
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: CTG on February 10, 2021, 09:09:44 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on February 10, 2021, 08:53:54 PM
Thank you! Maybe I'm not as rusty as I thought but still far from what I was.

Stunts racing is like cycling. You can't forget how to do it properly. If you have a sense to find tricks & shortcuts, it will work whatever the year is. Everything else depends on the time and energy spent on RH.

(Alan Rotoi is one of the greatest Stunts pipsqueaks in history. Even if I don't like his terrible jokes. ;D)
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on March 04, 2021, 12:43:05 PM
Offtopic:

Hungary: third wave hits the country, new lockdown (+worry and fear) for at least 2 weeks.

Btw in my region the number of new infections are not that high.

It is promised that before 11th April the people who are already registered for the vaccine can get its first dose.
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: Duplode on March 05, 2021, 12:03:32 AM
Here we have a second wave, building up from January after some respite between October and December. My state is stepping back to the "red stage" (strictest restrictions) from Saturday, also for at least two weeks. It's a mess...
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: Cas on March 05, 2021, 06:20:08 AM
Here we have people saying there's going to be a second wave, but that doesn't seem to happen. People are being super careless, so clearly it's not the measures stopping said "wave". I could say that, with people taking almost no measures, how can we expect a second wave if the first is at its maximum?  We wouldn't notice the difference. But to be honest, I don't see as many people around being infected as a couple of months ago and there doesn't seem to be a reason for that either. My conclusion is that we just have to be careful because nobody, not even doctors, seem to really understand what's going on, so better do things well just in case, ha, ha. It's so easy to take the basic precautions that there's no reason not to do it. Just the basic ones are already super helpful, even if you're not willing to go the extra mile.
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: Daniel3D on March 05, 2021, 09:26:55 AM
We have been in lockdown with curfew since January. Although numbers are good authorities say that there a third wave building. A new mutation is growing rapidly while older variants are lowering in numbers. Public unrest is growing (stupid people who use freedom of speech to spread fake news that other stupid people want to be true. Which is not helping) politics are close to elections. It's becoming quite a mess....
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on March 05, 2021, 09:52:51 AM
Quote from: Daniel3D on March 05, 2021, 09:26:55 AM
We have been in lockdown with curfew since January. Although numbers are good authorities say that there a third wave building. A new mutation is growing rapidly while older variants are lowering in numbers. Public unrest is growing (stupid people who use freedom of speech to spread fake news that other stupid people want to be true. Which is not helping) politics are close to elections. It's becoming quite a mess....

Here we had a lighter lockdown and a partial (between 8 p.m. and 5 a.m.) curfew since 11th November, but as the numbers started to rise steeply, the government decided to introduce a stricter lockdown now, including the closure of all schools and kindergartens + non-essential shops. The reason is mainly the British mutant, which was imported mainly from Slovakia. I think this stricter lockdown would have had to be introduced 2 weeks earlier to save lives, but at that time the government rather talked about a gradual opening...
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: Cas on March 05, 2021, 06:17:37 PM
Definitely, we do have lots of infected people in South America, but you Europeans are really having problems with these new strains. It looks like the inactivity or very low activity of airlines mainly is preventing those strains from reaching here but it will have to happen at some point.
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on March 05, 2021, 08:57:51 PM
Quote from: Cas on March 05, 2021, 06:17:37 PM
Definitely, we do have lots of infected people in South America, but you Europeans are really having problems with these new strains. It looks like the inactivity or very low activity of airlines mainly is preventing those strains from reaching here but it will have to happen at some point.

We have variant strains there which came outside from Europe... the South African mutant.

There is a highly contagious South African mutant as well, the Brazilian one (not identified in Hungary so far).

But you can't tell to European people to follow rules like last year in Wuhan...

(And there is a rumour about a possible Czecho-Slovak mutant as well... maybe it is like the British one, maybe not...)
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: GTAManRCR on March 05, 2021, 08:58:46 PM
In Hungary, we have a mutant from Mars
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: Daniel3D on March 05, 2021, 09:22:05 PM
https://youtu.be/X--eVVNzhtc (https://youtu.be/X--eVVNzhtc)
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/44e99d69-5555-4757-8b80-d3763f47903f/d4x4t45-be1ba712-7465-4eb3-91cf-99b752302a84.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvNDRlOTlkNjktNTU1NS00NzU3LThiODAtZDM3NjNmNDc5MDNmXC9kNHg0dDQ1LWJlMWJhNzEyLTc0NjUtNGViMy05MWNmLTk5Yjc1MjMwMmE4NC5qcGcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.Xhe271gb-zE9R201doXQrTbvRPHn7JPQVfKqVQGbiCA)
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: Cas on March 06, 2021, 02:52:24 AM
Ha, ha, ha XD  Mutants!
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: dreadnaut on March 06, 2021, 12:05:24 PM
Quote from: Cas on March 06, 2021, 02:52:24 AM
Ha, ha, ha XD  Mutants!

It does sound funny, I suppose something is lost in translation here.

What's the hungarian term? Do you have different words for mutation (a small change) and mutant (usually in science fiction, some creature deformed by radiation / pollution / horrible things in the dark)?
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: CTG on March 06, 2021, 12:44:01 PM
Quote from: dreadnaut on March 06, 2021, 12:05:24 PM
Quote from: Cas on March 06, 2021, 02:52:24 AM
Ha, ha, ha XD  Mutants!

It does sound funny, I suppose something is lost in translation here.

What's the hungarian term? Do you have different words for mutation (a small change) and mutant (usually in science fiction, some creature deformed by radiation / pollution / horrible things in the dark)?

Mutáció, mutáns.
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on March 06, 2021, 01:37:20 PM
Quote from: dreadnaut on March 06, 2021, 12:05:24 PM
Quote from: Cas on March 06, 2021, 02:52:24 AM
Ha, ha, ha XD  Mutants!

It does sound funny, I suppose something is lost in translation here.

What's the hungarian term? Do you have different words for mutation (a small change) and mutant (usually in science fiction, some creature deformed by radiation / pollution / horrible things in the dark)?

Ah, I see. While the mutation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation is called mutation in English, the mutation of coronavirus is rather called variant (or they just talk about a different/new strain), mutant is used less frequently. While in Hungarian, we rather use the term mutant virus if it suffers a mutation (like corona).
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: dreadnaut on March 06, 2021, 07:25:19 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on March 06, 2021, 01:37:20 PM
While in Hungarian, we rather use the term mutant virus if it suffers a mutation (like corona).

That makes sense actually :D  Thanks both for explaining!
Title: Re: ZCT234 - Lockdown, Worry and Fear
Post by: Cas on March 06, 2021, 08:14:41 PM
It's interesting how some words maintain meaning but not "feel" from a language to another. I noticed something similar with the word "thief" in English, which sounds like the person in question has a (bad) skill in contrast with the word "ladrón" in Spanish, that means the same thing, but sounds like the person is very insignificant.