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Title: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: CTG on March 10, 2021, 11:41:04 PM
Track name: Will Be One
Designer: afullo
Car: Pontiac Firebird TransAm
Start: 5th April 2021
Deadline: 11th April 2021, 23:59:59 GMT+2

Duels:
KyLiE vs Cas
dreadnaut vs CTG
Duplode vs afullo
Daniel3D vs Alan Rotoi
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - ???
Post by: afullo on April 04, 2021, 05:25:48 PM
Unfortunately I don't think I will be able to design a track before midnight. The internal hard drive on one of my PCs is in a very bad shape and I have to reinstall the OS on an external one, waiting for a replacement. Maybe I can search for old tracks in some folders, is there an alternative ready in case I will found nothing interesting? Sorry...  :(
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - ???
Post by: CTG on April 04, 2021, 06:15:36 PM
Quote from: afullo on April 04, 2021, 05:25:48 PM
Unfortunately I don't think I will be able to design a track before midnight. The internal hard drive on one of my PCs is in a very bad shape and I have to reinstall the OS on an external one, waiting for a replacement. Maybe I can search for old tracks in some folders, is there an alternative ready in case I will found nothing interesting? Sorry...  :(

As you wish. I think we can postpone the start by one or two days.
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - ???
Post by: Cas on April 04, 2021, 07:59:32 PM
Yes, it'd be nice to wait for Afullo!
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - ???
Post by: afullo on April 05, 2021, 12:15:28 AM
Maybe I will be able to post the track in one hour. Stay tuned...

EDIT: here it is. I designed it back in 2001, hope it fits with the car. Name: Will Be One (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbj3yqJ68Ns), because there is "todo en todos" (various track elements hastily alternating)...  ;)
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - ???
Post by: CTG on April 05, 2021, 06:54:05 AM
Thanks! Let's start.
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: CTG on April 05, 2021, 04:12:42 PM
Ouch, this one is quite long. A (k)nightmare!
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: afullo on April 05, 2021, 06:07:10 PM
First try, 2:38.15  ;)

KITT seems not to like the track designer.  :)
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: CTG on April 05, 2021, 07:27:41 PM
2:27.25, probably my weakest published replay ever. KITT is not my friend.
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: CTG on April 05, 2021, 07:38:45 PM
2:07.65, still f*ckin' weak... :D
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: dreadnaut on April 05, 2021, 09:10:36 PM
Hahhahaha this is such a cruel track for the Pontiac ;D   But now I understand why Knight Rider was filmed in dry and warm countries. Keep that car away from ice!
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: Cas on April 06, 2021, 12:35:13 AM
2:19.60 - I was very lucky in the first minute of the replay. That part was all in one run and I think it's optimum. But the rest, I can do better
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: Duplode on April 06, 2021, 03:10:57 AM
While I was also seriously spooked upon seeing the map, the track has a number of long straights, which make it less exhausting than its length might suggest. Below is a 1:55.35. Having gained a little familiarity at the R4K KITT race (http://www.raceforkicks.com/index.php?page=race&race=2021-03) which ended a few days ago has certainly helped. In any case, figuring out what to do with the KITT outside of asphalt is quite an adventure!
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: Daniel3D on April 06, 2021, 01:42:18 PM
I have a hard time with this combo, haven't managed to finish the track or do a section well enough to save...
Kitt is not an easy car to learn manual shifting, and this track doesn't make it easier in my opinion.

For those higher up in the scoreboard this track/car combination might stir things up though.
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: afullo on April 07, 2021, 12:57:07 AM
2:19.80. Also dirt is not its favourite terrain.  ::)
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: alanrotoi on April 08, 2021, 03:08:12 AM
I stallin hate this car. Beautiful chasis and dashboard but the handling is shit. Seems unfinished. 2:26.65
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: Duplode on April 08, 2021, 04:32:26 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on April 08, 2021, 03:08:12 AM
I stallin hate this car. Beautiful chasis and dashboard but the handling is shit. Seems unfinished.

I don't know if you have seen the comments about pursuit mode at Zapper's KITT thread. It is pretty much impossible to enjoy the car without taking it into account. That being so, here goes a primer on it.

The KITT has two modes of operation. Below ~6400 RPM, it behaves like a normal slow car. Above that lies the pursuit mode: extreme, Niva-like torque without any extra grip. Driving the KITT is primarily a matter of keeping (and taming!) the car at high RPMs  so that awesome straight line performance is always at reach. For instance, the proper way of doing asphalt large corners with the KITT is in second gear at 100+ mph. That would be run-of-the-mill weren't it for the fearsome traction, which means you need a light touch on both throttle and steering when exiting corners in order to avoid spinning. (There is always the option of shifting up one gear to delay the onset of pursuit mode and then shifting down to engage it when it becomes convenient to do so, though that is likely to cost a few tenths every time it is done.)
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: CTG on April 10, 2021, 10:39:41 AM
Standings:


KyLiE   2:01.20 - 2:19.60   Cas
dreadnaut   2:03.95 - 2:07.65CTG
Duplode   1:51.85 - 2:19.80afullo
Daniel3D3:13.85 - 2:26.65 Alan Rotoi

(Sorry for the late standings table - this week and probably also the next one is/will be extreme difficult for me.)
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: alanrotoi on April 10, 2021, 03:45:51 PM
Quote from: Duplode on April 08, 2021, 04:32:26 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on April 08, 2021, 03:08:12 AM
I stallin hate this car. Beautiful chasis and dashboard but the handling is shit. Seems unfinished.

I don't know if you have seen the comments about pursuit mode at Zapper's KITT thread. It is pretty much impossible to enjoy the car without taking it into account. That being so, here goes a primer on it.

The KITT has two modes of operation. Below ~6400 RPM, it behaves like a normal slow car. Above that lies the pursuit mode: extreme, Niva-like torque without any extra grip. Driving the KITT is primarily a matter of keeping (and taming!) the car at high RPMs  so that awesome straight line performance is always at reach. For instance, the proper way of doing asphalt large corners with the KITT is in second gear at 100+ mph. That would be run-of-the-mill weren't it for the fearsome traction, which means you need a light touch on both throttle and steering when exiting corners in order to avoid spinning. (There is always the option of shifting up one gear to delay the onset of pursuit mode and then shifting down to engage it when it becomes convenient to do so, though that is likely to cost a few tenths every time it is done.)

No I didn't. Imagine my frustration hahaha. I already did it and understand now. Interesting concept. :D Hard to apply in a game like stunts. I don't stallin hate it anymore  ;D
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: dreadnaut on April 10, 2021, 04:27:19 PM
Quote from: CTG on April 10, 2021, 10:39:41 AM
(Sorry for the late standings table - this week and probably also the next one is/will be extreme difficult for me.)

Busy week-end here as well, unlikely to improve past this 2:03.95.
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: Daniel3D on April 10, 2021, 09:39:26 PM
This car and track is not for me. ..
3:15 on the first time I actually reached the finish line.
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: CTG on April 11, 2021, 01:02:30 PM
Quote from: dreadnaut on April 10, 2021, 04:27:19 PM
Quote from: CTG on April 10, 2021, 10:39:41 AM
(Sorry for the late standings table - this week and probably also the next one is/will be extreme difficult for me.)

Busy week-end here as well, unlikely to improve past this 2:03.95.

Probably you already won this duel. Unless...  ::)
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: KyLiE on April 11, 2021, 01:20:30 PM
My replay attached: 2:01.20
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: Duplode on April 11, 2021, 04:04:13 PM
Updating to 1:51.85
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: CTG on April 11, 2021, 10:15:56 PM
1:55.50 with the most annoying car in Stunts history...  :o
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: Daniel3D on April 11, 2021, 10:35:43 PM
Quote from: CTG on April 11, 2021, 10:15:56 PM
1:55.50 with the most annoying car in Stunts history...  :o
It's lovely to drive for fun and play with on a relatively easy track.
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: CTG on April 11, 2021, 10:41:19 PM
1:53.95
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: CTG on April 11, 2021, 10:41:54 PM
Standings:


KyLiE   2:01.20 - 2:19.60   Cas
dreadnaut   2:03.95 - 1:53.95CTG
Duplode   1:51.85 - 2:19.80afullo
Daniel3D3:13.85 - 2:26.65 Alan Rotoi
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: CTG on April 11, 2021, 10:50:29 PM
Btw Duplode can secure his league victory tonight.
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: Daniel3D on April 11, 2021, 10:53:12 PM
i almost made a Pi time on this track...

Just saying... ::)
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: afullo on April 11, 2021, 10:57:19 PM
Quote from: Daniel3D on April 11, 2021, 10:53:12 PM
i almost made a Pi time on this track...

Just saying... ::)

You could have finished 0.30 slower.  :P
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: CTG on April 12, 2021, 12:01:43 AM
Results:

KyLiE   2:01.20 (1:05.02) - 2:19.60 (1:14.89) Cas
dreadnaut   2:03.95 (1:06.49) - 1:53.95 (1:01.13)CTG
Duplode   1:51.85 (1:00.00)- 2:19.80 (1:14.99)afullo
Daniel3D3:13.85 (1:43.99)- 2:26.65 (1:18.67)Alan Rotoi

Winner of the round: Duplode - technically, he already won USL2021. Although I still have a tiny mathematical chance (0.001% or even less).

Best loser: dreadnaut

Standings

no   name                    W     D     L     bonus    OWN SUM  OPP SUMDiff          pts
1 Duplode501 6:02.08 7:06.07+1:03.99  15
2CTG501 6:27.93 7:23.86 +55.9312
3KyLiE501 6:52.93 7:37.58+44.6510
4Alan Rotoi401 7:14.11 7:36.86+22.7510
5 dreadnaut204 6:54.94 6:52.97-1.977
6afullo204 7:39.66 6:46.54-53.124
7Cas1057:42.996:57.02-45.972
8Daniel3D006 8:38.41 6:47.68-1:50.73  0
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: dreadnaut on April 12, 2021, 08:46:04 PM
Quote from: CTG on April 12, 2021, 12:01:43 AM
Best loser: dreadnaut

That describes my whole Stunts career! ;D
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: Daniel3D on April 12, 2021, 09:54:29 PM
Quote from: CTG on April 12, 2021, 12:01:43 AM
Winner of the round: Duplode - technically, he already won USL2021. Although I still have a tiny mathematical chance (0.001% or even less).

Ehmmm,,.. at least you have a chance  8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: Daniel3D on April 12, 2021, 09:56:06 PM
Quote from: afullo on April 11, 2021, 10:57:19 PM
Quote from: Daniel3D on April 11, 2021, 10:53:12 PM
i almost made a Pi time on this track...

Just saying... ::)

You could have finished 0.30 slower.  :P

i tried, can't even manage that...  ::)
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: KyLiE on April 13, 2021, 04:44:57 AM
Daniel3D, don't be so hard on yourself!  We all have to start somewhere.  CTG wasn't at the top of the scoreboard back in 2002 either.  Remember that you're competing with people from all over the world and most importantly, have fun!  Nice screenshot though! :)
Title: Re: USL 2021 - Track 6 - Will Be One
Post by: Daniel3D on April 13, 2021, 09:13:24 AM
I'm not hard on myself, i have a lot of fun racing (not so much last week 8) that was work)

As for the screenshot. That will be in my test/edited version of stunts until I change it..
But, I actually kind of like it,

maybe i change it to "tumbling' Daniel3D"
... Tumbling down the rabbit hole, still amazed by everything...