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Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 10, 2003, 11:37:49 PM
I have had a lot of chats recently with different people, we talked about different topics, but there was one thing which we had agreement in. It is Orion's cheating.
I don't want to throw the shit on Krys and Leo, i'm sure they are not cheaters.
I think Alain is a great driver, he is crazy, too, sometimes we can have a good chat, but there's something suspicious. Not with his times, his replays. Something other. I think most of the people know there what I am talking about.
Alain, and especially Mingva blamed CTG of his ghosts earlier. They couldn't stop this, although Crazy Driver's results were deleted. They 'surprisingly' stopped this immediately after Myron joined Orion. He had mediocre results, but on ZCT 27, it was a very hard job to beat him. Later I heard from others that it was Alain who did his replay. It seemed true, all non-Orionians expressed their agreement, but because of lack of evidence, Zak left his results. (Hmmm there wasn't real evidence in the case of Crazy Driver, but Zak didn't leave his results... that is discrimination!) Later I heard that Myron was retired when there was that 1.12 beside his name. So it is true i think that Myron's rpl was cheated. Please punish the team.
The other thing is Mingva. He has very interesting results, from the best to the worst. For example my sister almost beat him on zct25. But it was very hard to beat him last month. A true fact: he always has a great result when there's Alain. His great result is often a bit weaker than Alain's. When there's no Alain (like in 4dStunts), Mingva is eeeasily beatable. Look at last year's results! Mingva was always a bit slower than Alain. On ZCT 23 there was no Alain... Mingva was shit. On ZCT 21 there was no real Alain, only a real Krys... Mingva was shit. So what is that? There was no Alain in USC... there was no Mingva. On track Eger there was winner Alain and a bit weaker Mingva. I heard something with half of my ears that Mingva couldn't do the zct29 trick, and Alain did it for him. What do you think about this? Have you heard about this. Mingva's results are seem to be quite wavering. But if you can see what's in background, you can understand his results.
Do you agree, drivers, or I'm just making false alarm?
What to do? No real evidence, but it is more than suspicious.
Please punish the guilty not only by words there. Thanks for reading.
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: CTG on November 10, 2003, 11:58:12 PM
Little correction: there was no real ghost blame mentioning CrazyDriver, rather Bolo. Alain and Mingva were the agressors: they couldn't believe me. I was suffering from their charges for long months and then something happened. They stopped it. It was really close to Myron's first orionian race. I really don't know if Myron, Mingva and Alain cheated and I don't care unless there are some strange fact which made us to think on illegal inner work of Orion. I don't want you to kill eachother in the forum/e-mails/chat/etc. only just to be in a peaceful community. We can't check if they are liar or not, it's only up to their conscience. We cannot ask them to finish making other's replay because there's no real proof in our hand. I have to agree with both sides and neither of them.

If they are liars, then please finish dishing the community.

If not, then finish this stupid, mindless quarrel!
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: al il professore on November 11, 2003, 12:22:39 AM
i have a feeling about that, akoss poo.

It seems that we cannot really judge about rpls at the moment. It also seems that real good drivers are cheating!!! for example, i thought long time that alanrotoi was cheating, because i could not do that with my finger on IRC!!! then i watched his replays closely, and understood how to drive faster...

and about the hex editing... anyone read the lukas loerher or mark nailwood page on that? he explains how the replay are written... but its a so complicated stuff that it needs more explanation! i will write a short article on stunts R us about how the replays are written and try to explain how to modify them... it must be easy, so lets find that...

So that is my opinion. What is yours guys?
Title: post
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 11, 2003, 12:35:43 AM
This is bullshit Alain, and this is not about the topic. It is not about edited replays. It is about Alain who makes the replays of Mingva and Myron.
I don't want to say their time is possible. You can do it. But Mingva and Myron are not so skilled drivers, they can't.
Edited rplz would be another topic, because your -rh driving ability is far the shittest in this community, and it is suspicious. But I'm not arguing now about this.
And when will Mingva beat you? And Myron?
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: al il professore on November 11, 2003, 01:19:28 AM
i respect your views, i just can say

my no RH skills are weak? I just play stunts again and again!
Mingva and Myron are weak drivers? they just play stunts again and again!

and i regret Myron, because he was very good for a newbie!
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: al il professore on November 11, 2003, 01:53:08 AM
from robert riebisch most known stunts FAQ

   [8.4] REPLAY FILES

     VERSIONS: OCT-05-90, DEC-13-90, FEB-12-91, FEB-25-91

     There  are  two  different  formats of  replay  files.  The old format is
     compatible with versions OCT-05-90 and DEC-13-90. The new format was used
     in FEB-12-91 and FEB-25-91.

     CONFIGURATION BLOCK

     The  configuration  block  starts at offset  0x0000  and is 24 Bytes (new
     format: 26 Bytes) long.

     OFFSET   SIZE      DESCRIPTION

     0x0000   4 Chars   Driver's car abbreviation
     0x0004   Byte      Driver's car color number
     0x0005   Byte      Driver's shift mode
                          0x00 = manual
                          0x01 = auto
     0x0006   Byte      Opponent number
                          0x00 = no opponent
                          0x01 = Squealin' Bernie Rubber
                          0x02 = Herr Otto Partz
                          0x03 = Smokin' Joe Stallin
                          0x04 = Cherry Chassis
                          0x05 = Helen Wheels
                          0x06 = Skid Vicious
     0x0007   4 Chars   Opponent's car abbreviation
     0x000B   Byte      Opponent's car color number
     0x000C   Byte      Opponent's shift mode
                          0x00 = manual
                          0x01 = auto
     0x000D   9 Chars   Track name
                          (zero-terminated string)

     OLD FORMAT

     0x0016   Word      Replay length in 1/20 of a second

     NEW FORMAT

     0x0016   Word      Replay length divisor?
     0x0018   Word      Keyboard Event Block length in bytes
                          (To determine the replay time in seconds you have
                           to divide this value by the word at offset 0x0016.
                           See section [8.2].)

     TRACK BLOCK

     The track block starts at offset 0x0018 (new format: 0x001A) and is 1,802
     bytes long. See section [8.5].

     KEYBOARD EVENT BLOCK

     At  offset  0x0722 (new format: 0x0724)  the keyboard event block begins.
     Each  event  is  represented  by one byte  and  can  consist of up to six
     simultanously keypresses (in theory).

     The  following chart shows how keypresses  are encoded. If a specific bit
     is set the corresponding key was pressed, if the bit is clear the key has
     been released.

                           Bit 76543210   Keyboard event
                               ????????
                               ???????+-- Accelerate key pressed
                               ??????+--- Brake key pressed
                               ?????+---- Right key pressed
                               ????+----- Left key pressed
                               ???+------ Shift up key pressed
                               ??+------- Shift down key pressed
                               +--------- Unused (should be 0)

     But  how large is the keyboard event  block? You will find out by reading
     the  word value at offset 0x0016 (new  format: 0x0018). It shows how many
     bytes you have to process.

     FORMAT DETECTION

     To  detect the old format you have to  read the word at offset 0x0016. If
     its  value + 0x0722 corresponds to the replay file size you have detected
     the old replay file format.

     For  the  new format you have to read  the  word at offset 0x0018. If its
     value  + 0x0724 corresponds to the replay file size you have detected the
     new replay file format.

     Weird, huh?!

     CONCLUSION

     As  you see from above you can write a replay file viewer and probably an
     editor.  But  writing a converter between the  old  and the new format is
     useless,  because  there  are some  things,  which we call "environmental
     conditions",  that  influence the behaviour of  a car too. These settings
     vary from version to version and can't be controlled by the user.

My conclusion: still to come ;)
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: Mingva on November 11, 2003, 09:08:17 AM
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but because of lack of evidence, Zak left his results.

CrazyD was a real ghost - no indian pipsqueak was in Stunts community. And Myron, I guess, was a real person. So, Zak couldn't just delete all his results. If he'd be cheated and Zak would be noticed it, then Zak would be canceled only Myron's ZCT27 result  :P

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Later I heard that Myron was retired

Just ask to Myron why he retired :P You don't know real situation, so shut up :x  
In short: Myron tired of using RH a lot. The same situation was to me on LM-002 track, and from next track I missed all summer in ZakStunts. But on my birthday (from ZCT29) I created a new Stunts theory which is helping to achieve an outstanding results to me :wink:

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He has very interesting results, from the best to the worst. For example my sister almost beat him on zct25. But it was very hard to beat him last month.

My worse results were ZCT25 and ZCT26 because, as I wrote, I was tired from Stunts and RH. On those tracks I raced only once and spent less than hour. And from September, as I also wrote here, I created a new theory which is motivating me to use a lot of RH.
About your sister (can I say 'I want to skid here' like you're saying abt my sister?)... How can we know that you're not helping to here? If I'd be a paranoic person like you, I'd be created such topic in the past as well :P

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(like in 4dStunts), Mingva is eeeasily beatable.

Because there I'm racing just for fun/pleasure. Although I'm leader there, 12pts above Krys :lol:

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On ZCT 23 there was no Alain... Mingva was shit.

 :shock: Beeing 7th and faster than Zak, Usrin, Alan Rotoi, Krys and CTG is a -shit- result  :?:  :shock:  :o  :shock:

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On ZCT 21 there was no real Alain, only a real Krys... Mingva was shit.

I don't know how to drive with Lancia :? Just watch previous year results where with Lancia I was only 10th but in the same time with Indy on Plus1 - 3rd; with Skoda on Plus2 - 1st. Besides, 9th place was quite good result to me as I was faster than Bismarck and Usrin.

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On track Eger there was winner Alain and a bit weaker Mingva.

I cann't remember now, and I cann't connect to USC site to see past results, but I think on Cegled I was good too even without Alain racing there :P

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I heard something with half of my ears that Mingva couldn't do the zct29 trick, and Alain did it for him.

No, it Argammon wrote that he did hill trick for me. You can read my answer to his nonsense here (http://stunts.mine.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8058#8058).

Sorry Akss, but you're a paranoic weeper in my eyes  :P  :lol: You should keep in mind that at the moment I'm, a weaker pipsqueak, better than you  :roll: And stop crying, you're still better than Lupuszka and many others.
Title: Hey hey
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 11, 2003, 11:54:07 AM
Mingva you are not reading my posts in forum, am I right? Or if you are reading, accept my Vilnius rpl.

I'm waiting for the post of the others.
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: CTG on November 11, 2003, 12:21:05 PM
Don't mix the topics please! Mingva isn't accepting mail from Akoss because of the chat affair. I don't agree with Mings, but it's really not about cheating.

Sometime Mingva is extermely fast, and mostly he has a good result when Alain helps him. Help is not equal to drive for another pipsqueak, and team work is allowed. But most of the pipsqueaks feel something strange arround his (and Myron's) performance. We can't confirm the lie - if it exists. I want to hope that you are fair, and I won't take care about this arguement anymore!
Title: to CTG
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 11, 2003, 12:24:09 PM
Hey hey I am not mixing them. Mingva is boycotting me (LOL), so he doesn't read my posts and doesn't accept my mails, together.
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: Arg on November 11, 2003, 03:23:26 PM
Mingva: Even Alain stopped but you have to keep it going?
Think it over.
That's all I have to say......
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: BonzaiJoe on November 11, 2003, 03:39:28 PM
Alain: why are you trying to change the topic?

Mingva: the reason why you did relatively well on Cegled was that you had my replay and used it. It contained the one important trick in the track.

Personally I wouldn't say Alain drives all Mingva's replays, but I agree results of lately are very suspect.
There was PLENTY of evidence against Crazy Driver, and I don't agree that Zak is discriminating.
Alain: please tell us why your replay is always 0.05 longer. I have never seen anything like this in all my years of Stunts, before your Z29 replay.
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: Mingva on November 11, 2003, 05:07:08 PM
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the reason why you did relatively well on Cegled was that you had my replay and used it.

WHAT ???

Then again about Plus tracks: if you think Alain is racing for me when who did my Plus rpls? Answer you, bastard :evil:

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Personally I wouldn't say Alain drives all Mingva's replays, but I agree results of lately are very suspect.

Please, ask Alain's and my rpls from Zak. Compare it and only then talk Alain is racing for me  :P
Title: Alain, Mingva
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 11, 2003, 05:12:39 PM
Quote from: "BonzaiJoe"
Alain: please tell us why your replay is always 0.05 longer. I have never seen anything like this in all my years of Stunts, before your Z29 replay.


Damn that's what i forgot to say yesterday! Thanks Jacky!
And: it happened to Alain's rpls that there was a better time on the final scoreboard than the real one, and then it was corrected. It happened few times. And only with you. What is happening here, damn!

Join chat! Read STUNTSRUS! Hex editing is available, Alain says. He says he only invented it yesterday. Can you believe it?
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: Mingva on November 11, 2003, 05:27:14 PM
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Alain: please tell us why your replay is always 0.05 longer.

Hmm, why my replays are good? If Alain is racing for me, they should be also 0.05 sec longer :P
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: BonzaiJoe on November 11, 2003, 05:48:52 PM
You don't know about that...

About plus tracks: Of course Alain didn't drive those for you, and I sincerely have no idea if he drove any other replays for you, but:

1. Your performances on Z31 and Z32 are much better than the ones on the + tracks.
2. You did these results after having not done any good result in ages, having said you were about to quit Stunts, and having said the car was too slow for the track.
You are a good driver, and capable of good results, but right now you are suddenly driving Bonzai Joe / Argammon / Alain level without trouble. Maybe you just suddenly got some divine inspiration, I don't know, all I'm saying is that it's suspect.
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: alanrotoi on November 11, 2003, 05:50:36 PM
Mingva isn't a hex cheater, I don't believe he is such of person who do that.
Title: hey
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 11, 2003, 05:50:49 PM
I said on the chat that now maybe i can believe that Alain doesn't drive your replays. But I said if it is true, you are hexediting your rplz. Of course you are acting the innocent little boy on the chat. skid off and shut up, and go away from this community, all Orion drivers. Maybe you found out how to avoid the plus byte in your rplz?
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: BonzaiJoe on November 11, 2003, 05:53:32 PM
About Cegled: I don't know if you remember, but back then you were a very kind person, and you helped me send the replay to CTG, because something was wrong with my email. Then you watched it, and said: "wow, with this replay I can get the 2nd place". Because you saw how to jump from the corkscrew to the road. Still you lost by 6 seconds...
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: Mingva on November 11, 2003, 05:55:05 PM
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But I said if it is true, you are hexediting your rplz.

Then why my times were/are so shit or weak  :?:  :P
Title: LOL
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 11, 2003, 06:07:26 PM
Quote from: "Mingva"
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But I said if it is true, you are hexediting your rplz.

Then why my times were/are so shit or weak  :?:  :P


LOL, Mingva, you are the only one who knows... :)
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: zaqrack on November 11, 2003, 06:10:06 PM
reading topics like these I feel depressed and have enough of this whole competition business. You know I have always found 15 mins a day to update the site, in the past days I just dont care.
You only talk about it, blame the others, but in the end its me who has to make a decision, and then 50% of you'll blame me, altough I didnt suspect anyone with cheating, and I wont.

I wont close the topic as a moderator or anything, discuss it if you want to hate eachother, but leave me out of this, I'm not reading these from now, please not in the topic if its about such things, I like stunts, I like managing zakstunts, and I wouldn't like you to destroy these.

Looks like there's a new need for good pipsqueaks next to his driving skills and honesty, and this is trust in the others.
Maybe I should give additional points for trust to motivate you  :?

Zak
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: al il professore on November 11, 2003, 06:14:04 PM
zak zak zak!!! dont speak like that! every one and i want you to go on with stunts, forever...

I said i stopped the fighting forever! on and off track (sorry off track only ;) )... good news?

and now lets start trusting in each other... because it is our only total strength
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: alanrotoi on November 11, 2003, 06:20:46 PM
yes, the trust that people of Iraq has for Tony Blair.
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: al il professore on November 11, 2003, 06:24:40 PM
its about fighting the cheating... if i fight the cheating in myself, i reduced the total amount of cheating in the world. lets meet the good mix of innocent drivers, with competition spirit.
Title: opinion
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 11, 2003, 06:26:19 PM
To drivers: trust in each other, don't hexedit your replays. Finish this argument, I want to see an update now.
To Zak: I accept your opinion, although as I mentioned I don't like it. At least create tracks where there are not so many tricks where hexediting can help (zct 32, Mingva's time).
To me: fiiiiinish attacking the others.
Title: Re: opinion
Post by: BonzaiJoe on November 11, 2003, 10:34:50 PM
Quote from: "Akoss Poo"

To Zak: I accept your opinion, although as I mentioned I don't like it. At least create tracks where there are not so many tricks where hexediting can help (zct 32, Mingva's time).
quote]

No no no, please don't do that, don't weaken the competition quality because of potential cheaters. We want tracks with nice tricks, that's the best part of STUNTS.
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: Argammon on November 11, 2003, 10:51:43 PM
I think it wasn't a smart idea to bring the whole hex edition issue up. It would only lead more pipsqueaks to use it if someone explains it in an easy to understand way and also tells them it's easy to use...
If someone wants to win that way,fine I don't care,but we should have left it in the grave it was.
Just my opinion about the new articles about hexing and the discussion around it.
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: al il professore on November 12, 2003, 12:21:58 AM
okay, i will stop digging the problem if its needed... but if i succeeded to do what i tried to do yesterday, well, another week end hacker is able to... I will just dont show how to modify a rpl, because its really awful. And i suppose that stunts r us site is already hidden, plus i experience everyday  that very few knows enough the matrix to be able to read it :) (when i tell to my friends i browsed the website of the fbi they look at me with fear and ask: did you hack it? LOL)
believe me, i wont use this dirty cheating, and you can test my replays too if you want...

topic closed. We spoke of nothing! gosh we are the land of the free or what ;)
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: JTK on November 12, 2003, 01:00:41 PM
THANK YOU!  8)
Title: some thoughts
Post by: Krys TOFF on November 15, 2003, 09:32:37 AM
Well, I just want to say I believe Mingva is not cheating.
His skills depends mostly of his motivation.
He found the main tricks in Z32, Alain managed to reproduce it, but I failed to do it for now.
When he wants, Mingva can beat me, except when there's a trick he can't do like in Z21.
At this moment, he wants to have leading time bonus and fight for it. That's his motivation. That's why he is so fast, that's why Alain doesn't send his 43 seconds replay until LTB war is over. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Errrr, just kidding. Alain doesn't have a 43 seconds replay... Yet !

And why attacks are focused on Mingva and Alain ? My results are not regular too : I went back to amateur more than once and also managed to have results in top 5. Am I a cheater ? Am I hex editing ? No. I'm just human, with sometimes good inspirations, or luck. And sometimes no motivation.

Now, let's just forget every animosity, let's forget hex editing, let's forget ghosts or any other paranormal apparitions and just start our engines to race for the pleasure of racing.
I like the game, I race because I like it. I don't race to win. I like to win of course, but it's not essential.
I joined this community because I liked the game and discovered competitions on it. I stayed because I found a friendly community.
But in last weeks, I feel like a stranger here; with personnal fights everywhere.
I don't believe everyone is cheating, I think fair play and fair fight is the key to keep the community alive.
Title: comment
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 18, 2003, 01:20:21 AM
I just want to say that I stopped insulting and I love Timi.
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: al il professore on November 18, 2003, 01:23:00 AM
but start to play z32 santiago usc fsc 4dsl stuntslol and imsacup who did i forget?
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: BonzaiJoe on November 18, 2003, 08:33:45 AM
Timi? What happened to Bogi?
Title: hmmmm
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 18, 2003, 12:56:40 PM
Quote from: "BonzaiJoe"
Timi? What happened to Bogi?


It is almost impossible to meet Bogi for me, and I heard about her that she is very queasy.
And what is more important: I gave help to Timi in her English homework, that meant Timi nipped in to see me, and we had a 5 hour long conversation, I really got to know her, and I started to feel love... again... More info will come on paradise.danwa.net.
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: al il professore on November 20, 2003, 09:42:27 AM
if only we could hex edit the girls... :)
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: CTG on November 20, 2003, 10:06:15 PM
Well Timike really needs some hexediting... But she's very good in sex...  :P
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: CTG on November 20, 2003, 10:13:10 PM
But let's go back to the original topic! Alain ans Mingva didn't give up charging me with helping Jacky and Akoss. If you are so stupid then I'll continue insulting BOTH OF YOU!

Alain hacked Jacky's computer, stole his rpl and put a worse replay on that PC. After that he hexedited Jacky's rpl to make a perfect lap and made a bit worse one for Mingva.

The only question: when did it happen? The answer: every month since Alain became a "top driver"...  :P
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: CTG on November 20, 2003, 10:16:52 PM
Of course my last comment was a bullshit. But your charges are very similar and ridicoulus too...  :?
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: al il professore on November 20, 2003, 10:41:22 PM
i beg your pardon? You were exchanging CHECK POINTS in the chat room, with people that were not of your team?

MUST I DETAIL?

this is very serious... you dont seem to realize it :)
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: CTG on November 21, 2003, 10:15:02 AM
Hmmmm... You have only half information...  :)  We changed 'Vilnius' section times, after the deadline of Vilnius. It's legal, isn't it?
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: al il professore on November 21, 2003, 12:13:37 PM
What is legal, Neo? They change you into

(http://thumba.image.altavista.com/image/59928475)

If only you could talk

(http://thumbb.image.altavista.com/image/400056582)

Choose the red pill or the blue one Alice...
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: CTG on February 28, 2004, 09:42:06 AM
What a nice old topic...  :P  :lol:  :D  :wink:
Title: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: BonzaiJoe on July 13, 2006, 11:40:34 PM
I totally agree. I almost miss Stunts flamewars when I read this...
Title: Re: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: CTG on July 18, 2006, 06:55:06 PM
You wanted, Jacob:

ALAIN IS A STUPID CHEATER, HE DRIVES FOR RENATO BIKER. :D:D:D
Title: Re: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: CTG on September 04, 2012, 11:09:20 PM
la-la-la la-la-la-la...
Title: Re: I simply have enough of Orion's cheating, let's stop it!
Post by: CTG on April 03, 2014, 05:12:43 PM
Well Timike really needs some hexediting... But she's very good in sex...  :P

RIBITIMI!!! ;D