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Waiting for your comments, especially from competition managers!

Yes, manager have to convince pipsqueaks to improve their times but not with pipsqueaks which manager likes. I cann't understand why CTG asked many times to BJ to race on Heviz and not me or Bolo.

And new pipsqueaks will come to competition not in this way. In IRC newbs came without my persuasions. OK, only Manowar raced on Jakarta after I sent track to him and told that it's created by his brother alanrotoi :oops:

I think, manager should only ask pipsqueak if he'll race or why he won't race, but not to tell things like "you will lose the championship".

You can't understand my psichology...  :)

1. I asked all the pipsqueaks to take part H?v?z race, you are the only one who didn't get invitation

2. IRC and USC are different competitions. You have your own practice in organizing and it seems that we aren't similar.

3. I told Alain and BJ several times to fight for the last victory. Not only Alain and not only BJ. Or shall I mention Krys? I always tell him to beat my time, because he's my favorite opponent. And the reverse worked also: Krys told me not to give up IMSA Cup final against Rotoi. Not because he wanted me to win, but to give me self-confidence, and to make the final more enjoyable. I don't think it's a mistake, it's only tactics, without unfair events. I don't think you will accept my opinion, but don't insult me with this topic anymore...

And only one thing: I NEVER banned pipsqueaks from my championship...

you want opinions... but even that, you shouldnt ask it... competition managing needs total neutrality, and you cant understand that, that is why some dont play at usc

QuoteAnd only one thing: I NEVER banned pipsqueaks from my championship...

Me too  :) And do you know the competition from which was banned pipsqueak(s)?

Hmmm, do you remeber the Akoss affair... I know he wasn't banned forever, but you planned it...  :P

please stop... i dont want to read this kind of post. speak about the race.

OK, Alain try to beat Jacky! Jacky try to beat Alain! Akoss, don't let BJ or Alain win! Krys, you have to overtake me! Bolo, don't hide your time, be faster then Zak! Floflo come on, you can reach TOP3 again! Zak, show your best, win the race! Hungarian newbies come on, try to drive faster then old pipsqueaks! Rotoi come back! Argammon join! Nailwood send a killer to make USC harder! Mingva, send a replay and show your talent instead of your big mouth...  :P

awsome goal :D Hungary 1 - France 0

france 3 germany 0

France-Germany? Why?  :D

because it was a great match, and the gap was huge.

CTG can't you see what he did? 1st he took you as a stupid and now he changed the topic and you ask "why".

pffff

well done alain.

ok ok i see that you are angry against me for something i dont understand at all... so bye

Well I can delete some messages... :P

Oh I'm sorry, how I could tell you that, my poor little alain... cute cute. Is it ok now?

I will only quote the terminator:

"I'll be back"

How many off-topic messages I see here  :lol:  :P

When CTG told me you were angry about something at the forum, I must admit I hadn't expected it to be such an incredible load of bullshit as it turned out to be... you are angry because CTG told me to race? Why can't CTG tell me to race, is it illegal? Have neither of you told anyone to race in your competitions?
You almost make me laugh  :lol:  Whether I race or not is completely my own business, and if you like, you are free to try and persuade me not to race.

QuoteWhether I race or not is completely my own business

EXACTLY !!! Then why CTG had to persuade you to race on Heviz? :P Mostly I'm not satisfied with CTG's point of view to pipsqueaks :(

Anyway, competition manager shouldn't declare such things like "Alain will lose USC title", " I don't need any rcers from Lithuania", " i told him that he will lose the championship". The good competition manager should be neutral.

P.S. Imagine situation in Euro'2004: comming J.Blatter to France players and saying: "come on guys, try to play harder or you'll loose your title". Hmm, interesting what would think other opponents?
Or another situation with FIFA president: "Portugal won't win championship because I don't like their team". I guess, you couldn't find portuguese who'd like J.Blatter after such words.

O.K., you asked for contest host's opinions (back to topic), here is mine:

I try to persuade each pipsqueak by sending out a the-contest-will-start-soon-Mail to all people, who EVER raced on our contest. All people entering the contest will get the track per E-Mail so noone has to download it as a reminder and motivational service. If I visit other peoples Stunts sites and write in their guest book, I always write "Join our contest! It's great coll, huge...", whatsoever. Sometimes I ask some pipsqueaks who start to race but send no replay later (like I did this time with KHR...). This of course is totally not objective and not good! But I only seldom do this.
More I hope pipsqueaks will come to the contest because of its name and reputation. And sometimes because of the price :)

I won't enter in off-topic discussion. Let's talk about how to bring more pipsqueaks.

As a comp manager, I try to speak about my comp in the chat and in forums. Not only this forum, but also abandoware forums like HOTU.

Sometimes, another comp manager talk about my comp in his news and so bring me new pipsqueaks, like Alan Rotoi did (with success :D ) for IMSA Cup, or also like Jim did (without succes unfortunately) for WRC Stunts. Thanks for that guys. :wink:

Also, I did like JTK and sent mail to those who raced 1st Cup, and to some others of which I had the mail address in my mailbox.
Now that the comp has begun, I also sent a "reminder mail" one day before deadline to those who didn't sent any replay. But it's not always sufficient because some pipsqueaks (Alain, Mingva, Zak, Myron) "forgot" to send a replay at different steps of the 1st Cup... :roll:

But, I'm not sure pipsqueaks motivation is involved in the "prestige" of a competition, it's mostly due to the level of competitors and their numbers. And also to the particularity or the history of the competition.
Alan Rotoi or Bonzai Joe or Alain (3 good pipsqueaks, aren't they ?), raced at Stunts LOL. Did that helped Leo to have more pipsqueaks ?
The quality of the tracks is also an important parameter. One weird track can make pipsqueaks flee like Kalpen's 2nd 2k3 track... :(

The pipsqueaks come if they want to.

kalpen, zakstunts, imsa, 4dsl, IRC got ten pipsqueaks every time. Ten pipsqueaks is an international level competition. Why do you want more? Why do you want to find them? noone came and get me for my first race, i conquered it myself.

The stunts pipsqueak is rare. Thats all.

I dont like ads. they make things like the internet bubble pop.

@ Krys TOFF:

With the word "reputation" I did not mean "prestige". I am not obsessed by having a good prestige. I am trying to act in a clear way. I hope the Kalpen's Contest has a place in the Stunts world (it has, I know). And I hope this keeps people coming, because the reputation of the contest is good (I have to wortk on this next time by not annoying pipsqueaks too much building tracks they will not race at all :mrgreen:).

Prestige to me sounds like Pride or somethoing like this and that I guess will bring no pipsqueak.

Also Alain is right: If there are pipsqueaks out there they will find us. They bring all the enthusiasm when finding an alive community with contests. I think nooone "hard persuaded" will ever race as motivated as those who come to race and win for fun because of the game.

Just one thing : the word "prestige" is not for you JTK, but for CTG who used it in the poll. :wink:

prestige means petroleum incorporated pollution also off topic next!

O.k. Krys TOFF, then I misunderstood you.
Anyway, sometimes it's hard to differ between "prestige" and "reputation". In my own language (German) it would be easier to say what I meant.

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Say it in german then :D KHR, Argammon, satanziege, Zak and I will have a chance to understand

I understand basic German words and sentences, so try to explain it simply...  :lol:

Ich glaube, dass man sich mit seinem Contest einen Namen machen kann. Zaks Contest hat einen sehr guten Ruf, unserer hatte auch einen sehr guten Ruf. Diesen gilt es f?r mich zu bewahren, denn dann kommen die Fahrer der letzten Saison wieder: Wenn sie fair behandelt wurden, wenn das Geschehen im Contest zuverl?ssig und nachvollziehbar ist und keine komischen Fragen auftauchen. Dazu kommt noch der Ruf des Trackdesigns (den ich mir wohl in der Saison 2003 endg?ltig verdorben habe :) ).

Dies ist f?r mich nicht gleich Prestige, obwohl es dicht beieinanderliegt, der Ruf und das Prestige. Vielleicht ist es ja doch das gleiche. Aber Prestige klingt f?r mich nach Geltungssucht. Und das bin und will ich nicht!

Aber jetzt ist das Thema auch ausgereizt, denke ich. So, ab in den S?den!

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Vielen dank, aber das hast du schon ganz gut in Englisch erkl?rt. Ich glaube der (bitte mir entschuldigen, ich habe kein ide? ob ich "der", "das" oder "die" schreiben soll :D) Unterschied ist, dass Prestige bedeutet bessere Sieger Zeite, grossere Namen (ein contest hat Prestige, wenn zum beispiel Alain, Alan Rotoi oder Bonzai Joe nehmen Teil) oder hocher Prioritierung (ja?)

Some german words I understand (I'm not sure AT ALL about the correct writting) :
Ich liebe dich
Papir bitte
Schneil
Harbeit
Fraulein

All taken from WW2 based movies. :roll:
I fear it's much too short to understand what you talked about. :lol:  :lol:

ja! i heard these words in the chat room... its turned full of nazis out there :)
when you come its "papir bitte"

and never "ich liebe dich"

Ich glaube= I hope (?) Uuuuuh I really forgot this language in spite of 8 years studying german... :(

I think/believe

Yes, that was my second tip...  :)

The persuading thing is actual again.

Quote from: CTG on February 02, 2007, 03:03:51 PM
The persuading thing is actual again.

up ::)

...for the next two races?