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Started by Krys TOFF, December 06, 2007, 10:56:12 AM

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Mark L. Rivers

Quote from: Chulk on November 06, 2008, 12:53:53 AM
Quote from: CTG on November 05, 2008, 11:21:06 PM
Damn, this one is really ugly. And let me guess: it won't help the drivers in overtaking. Because most of them are too shy to make agressive movements. The Senna-Prost battles won't come back...
Alonso is brave enough to do some great moves... And Kimi is too, when he's motivated. Of course Vettel but I'm not sure about Hamilton...

Really...? Wings needed overtake...  ;)


Krys TOFF

Anyway, this is how F1 will look like in 2009, simply copying left part of last image to the right :


I like the front and main body look (I always found quite ugly all those aerodynamic appendixes), but I really don't like the rear wing look.

Chulk

Rear wings sucks! And the rest is not that bad but I like the aerodynamic appendixes of a couple of years ago... Like McLaren mp4/19

Yes, it is me. No, I'm not back at racing (for now...)

Krys TOFF

From the main image below, a guy named "kazi" and quite good in photoshop made the possible Ferrari F1 2009 liveries. Nice job, even if car's nose and front wing may be different from this representation.

Original document :


1st livery :


2nd livery (for countries where ads for cigarettes is forbidden) :

CTG

Okay so it won't be that ugly... :D

Chulk

Quote from: CTG on November 12, 2008, 04:28:15 PM
Okay so it won't be that ugly... :D
F1 Ferrari is always ugly.  :)
Yes, it is me. No, I'm not back at racing (for now...)

CTG

Quote from: Chulk on November 12, 2008, 05:00:35 PM
Quote from: CTG on November 12, 2008, 04:28:15 PM
Okay so it won't be that ugly... :D
F1 Ferrari is always ugly.  :)

The most disgusting F1 ever: the silver "mirror" McLaren. :P

Krys TOFF

Different KERS systems (comments in Italian, can you translate Mark ?) :
- "mechanical" system : http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=wr_77ZtdW6I&feature=related
- "electronic" system : http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=yCjueI9FQG0&feature=related
- another possibility for an "electronic" KERS : http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=hjhW9G5hPyc&feature=related

Mark L. Rivers


I'll try in launch break (when speakers' volume can be a bit high...  ;)) hoping that comments are not too much tecnichals...  ::)


CTG

#24
Quote from: Krys TOFF on November 13, 2008, 10:56:50 AM
Different KERS systems

Now only nitro is missing from F1 cars... ;D

Official image of Williams 2009:


Mark L. Rivers

Quote from: Mark L. Rivers on November 13, 2008, 11:17:23 AM

I'll try in launch break (when speakers' volume can be a bit high...  ;)) hoping that comments are not too much tecnichals...  ::)



Sorry, I'm not working in a missilery base...  :D
For a translation attempt, no way today until here, I'll try in the evening or tomorrow...


Mark L. Rivers

#26
OK, here we are...
It has been long a bit more than I thought, but a bit more easy...  ;)
Hoping the translation works correctly...


Quote from: Krys TOFF on November 13, 2008, 10:56:50 AM
- "mechanical" system : http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=wr_77ZtdW6I&feature=related

During the brake, torque flow (green arrows) is transferred from the caps of the conical torque to the pinion. A little shaft, with free wheel, links in a solidary way a cogwheels joining with different diameter which works as revs multiplier.
This ratios cascade engages the flywheel mass (red arrows, weight = 5 Kg) generating an acceleration until 75.000 revs. The inertia so produced (orderly power pair to 80 HP) constitutes the kinetics energy accumulation that in acceleration phase returns to push the conical torque, jointly with the power distributed from the termic unit.

Quote from: Krys TOFF on November 13, 2008, 10:56:50 AM
- "electronic" system : http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=yCjueI9FQG0&feature=related

To avoid an invasive integration of the energy recovery system (grave components), the in-line positioning in the median zone of the car seems the most effective. The target performance of the hybrid solution can count on an additional power of 80 HP. During the brake, the inverter turns the generator in alternator mode, so to charge the battery that works with a voltage pair to 400 Volts and 800 Amh. During the acceleration, the accumulated energy supplies the electric engine, that helps so the termic unit.

Quote from: Krys TOFF on November 13, 2008, 10:56:50 AM
- another possibility for an "electronic" KERS : http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=hjhW9G5hPyc&feature=related

The hybrid solution that uses, jointly to a termic engine, a sophisticated electric system, demands a strategical positioning of components and accessories. The lithium battery is anchored to the background beside the engine. Inside the gearbox, we found an electric module directly linked to the conical torque by ratios. This unit works as flywheel alternator during the brakes in order to re-charge quickly the battery. During the acceleration, if the driver requests it, the unit becomes an electric engine thans to an inverter, that integrates the termic engine with a power until 80 HP, a cyclical operative condition that happens more times for every rev.


Krys TOFF


Duplode

Quote from: CTG on November 13, 2008, 04:39:29 PM
Official image of Williams 2009:



Even if the high rear wing and, in the case of this Williams, the strangely shaped nose are kinda ugly, they seem to make the overall car shape more "lively" and interesting, a little bit like those weird cars from the seventies. I liked the result... :)

CTG

#29
But this one is really ugly:



Interesting test today: quite mixed constructions of cars ("hybrid" solution between 2008 and 2009 rules); Sato won, Loeb finished 8th from 17 (WOW!!!  :o), Senna kicked Di Grassi's ass but both finished as losers.

I want to see Rossi and Loeb at one of the F1 top teams in 2010. ;D