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Re: FTT0111
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2008, 10:11:54 PM »
Nice opening from Chulk too, 1st one below the 55 seconds limit. ;)

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Re: FTT0111
« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2008, 10:38:23 PM »
Yes, I thought it would be harder to reach that time. It seems that the race will be decided by the point pipsqueaks reach PG and how short the racing line is...
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Re: FTT0111
« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2008, 11:02:06 PM »
I expect a centisecond war for the finish now. Not exactly what I though first but interesting finish of the season. ;)

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Re: FTT0111
« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2008, 04:12:17 AM »
Well, I'm not surprised with this outcome - if there would be only one good way it'd be a centisecond war a la FTT0105 anyway; and even more so, the alternative racing lines that might be viable appear to be fairly well matched (at least the ones which do not get you 0:54, or 2:54, or 3:12 penalty for no reason... ::)). And besides that, I knew my initial time was rather pedestrian (even if this Paris has no sidewalks... ;D). Thus I improved it a little bit, if only to stay on the same page for now  :)

And Krys, I know you already reinforced that we're in a "shortcut free competition", but there is still one cut that needs your attention I think. Remember the trick you used on your SDR victory last year?(*) That piece of scenery road splitting from the final section of the track and rejoining just after the first corner is very, very inviting for a similar exploit. May I take it for granted that it is forbidden, in analogy to the arguments about, say, Z85?

(*) well, not just you but Brian, and me as well to less spectacular results...

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Re: FTT0111
« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2008, 01:46:20 PM »
I expect a centisecond war for the finish now. Not exactly what I though first but interesting finish of the season. ;)

I'm still totally in the dark about the way to choose... I've not make trials in NORH, only in RH, and I'm still over 55"00... I'm becoming more and more worried...




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Re: FTT0111
« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2008, 03:23:22 PM »
Well, I'm not surprised with this outcome - if there would be only one good way it'd be a centisecond war a la FTT0105 anyway; and even more so, the alternative racing lines that might be viable appear to be fairly well matched (at least the ones which do not get you 0:54, or 2:54, or 3:12 penalty for no reason... ::)). And besides that, I knew my initial time was rather pedestrian (even if this Paris has no sidewalks... ;D). Thus I improved it a little bit, if only to stay on the same page for now  :)

And Krys, I know you already reinforced that we're in a "shortcut free competition", but there is still one cut that needs your attention I think. Remember the trick you used on your SDR victory last year?(*) That piece of scenery road splitting from the final section of the track and rejoining just after the first corner is very, very inviting for a similar exploit. May I take it for granted that it is forbidden, in analogy to the arguments about, say, Z85?

(*) well, not just you but Brian, and me as well to less spectacular results...
This cut was found by SuperBrian, I just optimized it. Thanks again to him for this discover.
Anyway, there's no "checkpoints" in FTT. It's an open competition. Choose your path as you wish, but remember that penalty time will count. I tried the trick you're talking about and got from 2'48" to 3'24" (depending of the path chosen) so it seems worthless. ;D But yet, it's not forbidden.

I expect a centisecond war for the finish now. Not exactly what I though first but interesting finish of the season. ;)

I'm still totally in the dark about the way to choose... I've not make trials in NORH, only in RH, and I'm still over 55"00... I'm becoming more and more worried...
Let me make a proposal : join Damage Inc. team from now to (at least) the end of 2009 (you don't have to bring with you a sponsor, Stunts is not F1 and there's no Stunts crisis :D), and I'll share with you my current best replay. 8) Tell me if you're interested. ;)
« Last Edit: December 13, 2008, 03:55:43 PM by Krys TOFF »

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Re: FTT0111
« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2008, 11:48:37 PM »
I tried the trick you're talking about and got from 2'48" to 3'24" (depending of the path chosen) so it seems worthless.
It was my first path choice but after around 9 or 10 RH tries, I always got Penalty Time, so I dismissed it and chose the (probably faster, at least so far) way you (probably) chose too.

I'm still totally in the dark about the way to choose... I've not make trials in NORH, only in RH, and I'm still over 55"00... I'm becoming more and more worried...
I thought you were just kidding the first time you said that! It's not that hard to find, have you already looked at the map "in a proffesional way"?

Let me make a proposal : join Damage Inc. team from now to (at least) the end of 2009 (you don't have to bring with you a sponsor, Stunts is not F1 and there's no Stunts crisis :D), and I'll share with you my current best replay. 8) Tell me if you're interested. ;)
That doesn't sound honest, though I know Mark won't agree to that...
« Last Edit: December 13, 2008, 11:50:20 PM by Chulk »
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Re: FTT0111
« Reply #37 on: December 14, 2008, 09:56:25 AM »
Let me make a proposal : join Damage Inc. team from now to (at least) the end of 2009 (you don't have to bring with you a sponsor, Stunts is not F1 and there's no Stunts crisis :D), and I'll share with you my current best replay. 8) Tell me if you're interested. ;)
That doesn't sound honest, though I know Mark won't agree to that...
Not honest ? Why ? Is it forbidden to share replays between teammates now ? ;D :P
« Last Edit: December 14, 2008, 09:08:50 PM by Krys TOFF »

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Re: FTT0111
« Reply #38 on: December 14, 2008, 07:34:01 PM »
Not honest ? Why ? Is it forbiodden to share replays between teammates now ? ;D :P

I didn't say it was illegal, I just said it was dishonest. I mean Mark joining a team just for a race or you using your replay to "blackmail" Mark into helping you next year...
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Re: FTT0111
« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2008, 09:12:48 PM »
I don't feel like I need help, I just race for the fun of it. The period when I raced hard for every centisecond ended in 2004.
And I know Mark doesn't want to join any team so... ;-)

Also, I proposed Mark to join the team not just for this race, but for at least a season (end of 2009 I wrote). SuperBrian wants to switch to manual gears and I think he could learn a lot with Mark. :P ;D

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Re: FTT0111
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2008, 04:57:31 PM »

This morning I waked up with a thought about a possible line I could follow in order to lower my current (RH  :'() time, that is 55"50... :'( :'( :'(
It's really an hazzard, and I don't know if it will work (I'm stil not able to launch Stunts since this morning), but this is enough to make me a bit less worried...  ;)
And maybe I could try my first NORH trial, at last...  ::)





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Re: FTT0111
« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2008, 05:47:12 PM »

This morning I waked up with a thought about a possible line I could follow in order to lower my current (RH  :'() time, that is 55"50... :'( :'( :'(
It's really an hazzard, and I don't know if it will work (I'm stil not able to launch Stunts since this morning), but this is enough to make me a bit less worried...  ;)
And maybe I could try my first NORH trial, at last...  ::)
Happy to hear that! We'll finally have Mark on the scoreboard!
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Re: FTT0111
« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2008, 06:15:08 PM »
I'll post my improved time in the scoreboard only after Mark has posted at least a (weak) time. ;D
Is it a new leading time ? Maybe, maybe not. You'll see. :P

Anyway, I guessed 1st that 52" would be a winning time, but to be honest I'm not so sure right now. It will probably be 53" and not 52". Latest centiseconds are hard to catch.

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Re: FTT0111
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2008, 06:23:18 PM »
Latest centiseconds are hard to catch.
They really are. But I still think a high 52 is doable and will probably be the winning time. I had 53.10 in a run where I used RH only to rewind a crash on the last bridge. And I got PG later than expected and slightly touched the grass in 2nd corner while trying to cut directly to the fast grass.
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Re: FTT0111
« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2008, 06:31:18 PM »
I got PG later than expected and slightly touched the grass in 2nd corner while trying to cut directly to the fast grass.
Mmmm... You're giving too many infos to Mark I think. Don't blame yourself if he beats you in the end. :P :D