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Re: Cars and rules for 2020
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2020, 11:44:46 AM »
Let's say you got 239 hours last race, you get 241 hours this race, does that mean you only get 1 point from this race and no leftover hours?

Uh? I think you would get 2 points, and with zero hours left. Let's try with an example:

A. Always carry over
Race 1: (0 from previous) + 239 hours --> no points, all 239 carried over
Race 2: 239 + 400 = 639 --> 2 points, 159 carried over
Race 3: 159 + 200 = 359 --> 1 point, 119 carried over
Race 4: 119 + 50 = 169 --> 0 points, 169 carried over

B. Carry over unless you get points
Race 1: (0 from previous) + 239 hours --> no points, all 239 carried over
Race 2: 239 + 400 = 639 --> 2 points, 159 carried over reset!
Race 3: 0 + 200 = 200 --> 0 points, 200 carried over
Race 4: 200 + 50 = 250 --> 1 point, 10 carried over reset!

I think this would make things more difficult for those who stay in the lead for longer; in particular, it would decrease the incentive to keep the top position in the last third of the race, leading to more uncertain finales.

Might be completely wrong though :P

Carrying over, as you pointed out, means that LTB goes from being a "race score" to a "season score". We could just sum up all the leading hours and assign floor(hours / 240) points at the end of the year. I don't know if I like that :\
« Last Edit: February 09, 2020, 11:53:40 AM by dreadnaut »

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Re: Cars and rules for 2020
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2020, 01:50:48 AM »
So the new system is already running, with CTG and Seeker having gotten floor(356/240) = floor(255/240) = 1 LTB point in Z223. Not sure what to make of it, so I'll wait and watch. The LTB denial playbook will certainly be turned on its head  :D

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Re: Cars and rules for 2020
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2020, 01:01:58 AM »
We could change the system so that one LTB point is assigned as soon as a pipsqueak collects 8064/36 = 224 hours of leading time. We can round that to 240 hours, ten days, so that no-one can collect 3 points in the same race.

I have just noticed it is possible to receive LTB +3 at the end of a race, though it remains the case that you can't earn them over a single race. If someone enters a race with 239 carryover hours, they will get an LTB point upon their first leading hours while still having the rest of the race ahead of them, and so 481 hours (twenty days and an hour) will result in LTB +3. Conversely, if someone leads a race for 600 hours (25 days -- a decent approximation to the whole race, discounting the quiet days and an update Sunday), 120 carryover hours will suffice.

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Re: Cars and rules for 2020
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2020, 08:02:43 PM »
I have just noticed it is possible to receive LTB +3 at the end of a race, though it remains the case that you can't earn them over a single race.

Yes, but I think the "earning" part is important: it's not enough to have a great replay on this track to get tons of points, you need to do well on two.

Still, the system has not really distributed points to more pipsqueaks, I think. So it is different, but is the change worth it?

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Re: Cars and rules for 2020
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2020, 02:56:15 AM »
Still, the system has not really distributed points to more pipsqueaks, I think. So it is different, but is the change worth it?

I actually agree this doesn't need to be changed; my post here was just meant to document the possibility. Having your carry-over hours discarded because you did too well in a race would feel quite unfair.