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Original Floppy Images of the Stunts releases?

Started by llm, July 22, 2021, 08:40:57 AM

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Daniel3D

Not all versions. Only the latest of stunts and the latest of 4D sports.
But the difference between the earlier 1.1 versions is very small. (There is a game comparison on the wiki)
Edison once said,
"I have not failed 10,000 times,
I've successfully found 10,000 ways that will not work."
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Currently running over 20 separate instances of Stunts
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Check out the STUNTS resources on my Mega (globe icon)

llm

Quote from: Daniel3D on August 02, 2021, 01:58:44 PM
Not all versions. Only the latest of stunts and the latest of 4D sports.
But the difference between the earlier 1.1 versions is very small. (There is a game comparison on the wiki)

for me only the "unmodified thing" is relevant, and the unpack algorithm of stunts 1.0 is different - so could be that the VCEs etc. also using different packing/format etc.
its only for getting a full analyze base - even if the game itself is not that relevant

Daniel3D

I know that stunpack was recreated by comparing unpacked 1.0 files with packed 1.1 files.

But I could be that 1.0 packed files are different.

Edison once said,
"I have not failed 10,000 times,
I've successfully found 10,000 ways that will not work."
---------
Currently running over 20 separate instances of Stunts
---------
Check out the STUNTS resources on my Mega (globe icon)

llm

Quote from: Daniel3D on August 02, 2021, 03:46:38 PM
I know that stunpack was recreated by comparing unpacked 1.0 files with packed 1.1 files.

But I could be that 1.0 packed files are different.

according to dstiens github page: https://github.com/dstien/gameformats/tree/master/stunts/stunpack

Stunts 1.0 files are not supported.

Daniel3D

Unpacking packed 1.0 files (if they are packed with DSI own packing tool) might be difficult to unpack.

Interesting find on the greeng.sfx file.
Edison once said,
"I have not failed 10,000 times,
I've successfully found 10,000 ways that will not work."
---------
Currently running over 20 separate instances of Stunts
---------
Check out the STUNTS resources on my Mega (globe icon)

llm

Quote from: Daniel3D on August 02, 2021, 05:14:27 PM
Unpacking packed 1.0 files (if they are packed with DSI own packing tool) might be difficult to unpack..

your killing me with your sentences :)

what tool other then DSI own packing tool should have packed the stunts 1.0 files beforhand?

its impossible to unpack it with 1.1 algorithm if the 1.0 algorithm is different

Daniel3D

Quote from: llm on August 02, 2021, 08:06:48 PM
its impossible to unpack it with 1.1 algorithm if the 1.0 algorithm is different
Exact.
And finding that algorithm ain't easy, or so they say..
Edison once said,
"I have not failed 10,000 times,
I've successfully found 10,000 ways that will not work."
---------
Currently running over 20 separate instances of Stunts
---------
Check out the STUNTS resources on my Mega (globe icon)

GTAManRCR

Quote from: Daniel3D on July 23, 2021, 10:35:49 PM
Quote from: llm on July 23, 2021, 08:18:14 PM@Daniel3D which versions are these?

4D Sports Driving (ID 558)
is the red sector cracked version of 4D sports driving 1.1 OF 13 DECEMBER 1990

4D Sports Driving (ID 1111)  [720KB - 2 disk version]
UNCRACKED version of 4D sports driving 1.1 OF 25 FEBRUARY 1991

4D Sports Driving (ID 1112)  [360KB - 4 disk version]
UNCRACKED version of 4D sports driving 1.1 OF 25 FEBRUARY 1991

Stunts (ID 1354)  [720KB - 2 disk version]
UNCRACKED version of STUNTS 1.1 of 12 FEBRUARY 1991

Stunts (ID 1355) [360KB - 4 disk version]
UNCRACKED version of STUNTS 1.1 of 12 FEBRUARY 1991

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aside of the first one the others seem original

a download link to all versions with original image files and the unpacked files
plus a txt with the information from the site.
to save downloading and unpacking separately and stuff.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qmubl16hkf55jtl/morestunts.zip?dl=0


The versions which are claimed to be 4D Sports Driving of 1991-2-25 seems to be Stunts with the corresponding files replaced from 4D Sports Driving 1991-2-25 release, because when you start it, the game says "Loading Stunts..." rather than "Loading 4D Sports - Driving..."
The real 4D Sports Driving of 1991-2-25 says  "Loading 4D Sports - Driving..." when it loads
Hejj bicska, bicska, bicska csantavéri kisbicska!

GTAManRCR

Quote from: GTAMan18 on March 17, 2023, 07:00:25 PM
Quote from: Daniel3D on July 23, 2021, 10:35:49 PM
Quote from: llm on July 23, 2021, 08:18:14 PM@Daniel3D which versions are these?

4D Sports Driving (ID 558)
is the red sector cracked version of 4D sports driving 1.1 OF 13 DECEMBER 1990

4D Sports Driving (ID 1111)  [720KB - 2 disk version]
UNCRACKED version of 4D sports driving 1.1 OF 25 FEBRUARY 1991

4D Sports Driving (ID 1112)  [360KB - 4 disk version]
UNCRACKED version of 4D sports driving 1.1 OF 25 FEBRUARY 1991

Stunts (ID 1354)  [720KB - 2 disk version]
UNCRACKED version of STUNTS 1.1 of 12 FEBRUARY 1991

Stunts (ID 1355) [360KB - 4 disk version]
UNCRACKED version of STUNTS 1.1 of 12 FEBRUARY 1991

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aside of the first one the others seem original

a download link to all versions with original image files and the unpacked files
plus a txt with the information from the site.
to save downloading and unpacking separately and stuff.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qmubl16hkf55jtl/morestunts.zip?dl=0


The versions which are claimed to be 4D Sports Driving of 1991-2-25 seems to be Stunts with the corresponding files replaced from 4D Sports Driving 1991-2-25 release, because when you start it, the game says "Loading Stunts..." rather than "Loading 4D Sports - Driving..."
The real 4D Sports Driving of 1991-2-25 says  "Loading 4D Sports - Driving..." when it loads

Or so the executable (STUNTS.EXE) is from Stunts, not 4D Sports Driving
Hejj bicska, bicska, bicska csantavéri kisbicska!