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Exactly. NATO wasn't invading there officially or it wasn't an invasion from NATO. Some members and other countries did.

The strange and complexity of the Syrian civil war is kida difficult. There are so many sides! And those sides sometimes (not always) work together. Morever some member of the same side out of this conflic are fighting or supporting different sides in other conflicts! Insane!

Sides (more or less):
-USA + friends (can't remember well but Belgium, UK, Australia... something like that):
They attack Syrian government and ISIS and are against Russia and Turkey but they don't attack them directly. They support Free Syrian Army and the Kurds in the north.

-Turkey: attacks Syrian government, the Kurds and ISIS. Against Russia and USA but don't attack them directly (remember Turkey is a NATO member!) They collaborate with USA against ISIS and Syria.

-Kurds: backed by USA in the war against Syria and ISIS. They are at war with Syria and Turkey and ISIS. (not sure what happens with Free Syrian Army)

-Syrian Rebels or Free Syrian Army: Against Syrian government, Russia and ISIS.

-Russia: supports Syria against Turkey, the rebels, USA and friends, ISIS, not sure about Kurds.

-Syria: attacks Kurds, Rebels, ISIS. Against USA, Turkey and against Israel...

Oh yes! I didn't tell you, Israel is there too.

-Israel: attacks Syrian government and Hezbollah. Supports the rebels and made business with ISIS.

-Hezbollah: attacks Israel.

This list is brief and uncomplete so know this is a very complex area of conflict because there are more than one conflicts and interests.

Banfield


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_Atl%C3%A9tico_Banfield

Fence

(Argammon did the Jesus walk on the water thing in zct10. The so called "fence sliding")

One different thing is when Nato invaded Iraq or bombed Serbia or Syria.

NATO as an organisation was part (cause? aggravator?) in the mess in Serbia, but was never actually involved in Iraq or Syria. That was all US and "special relations" like the UK, plus Russia and Iran 🤦

I mean 2003's invassion of Iraq. You are right it wasn't NATO saying "I will invade" but it was an international coalition invading the country where half of them were NATO members: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-National_Force_%E2%80%93_Iraq

PS: Anyway, officially NATO was there with a small contingent of around 150 advisers under the collective command NATO Training Mission – Iraq (withdrawn 12/11). Still invaders.

You may feel safe in Argentina, but in Romania we don't have a crazy guy with a chainsaw to protect us.

There are different kinds of unsecurity.

1st) we are talking about the possibility or not of an international armed conflict.

2)if a nato country is attacked all the group (bah, let's be honest, the US) will defend you.

3) let's keep in the honest way, just like in the UE there are unnoficial class members. Baltic states and most ex Warsaw pact countries are a class B members from the western point of view (usa, uk, fr, ger...).

4) in Romania you have the Russian-Ukranian conflict pretty close. Not a joke  the black sea conflicts with the ukranian grain pact or the maritime drones and mines exploding everywhere very close of your part of the sea. Also the Transnistria problem (a separatist part of Moldova that is separated from the government where Russia has troops).

Anyway, any armed conflict with Russia is out of the table because both sides doesn't want it for several reasons (we can list some of them but I think it's not worth). Both sides will loose a lot whoever will be the war winner, the economic spend will be not a business. And that is what moves the world: money and power.

One different thing is when Nato invaded Iraq or bombed Serbia or Syria. Another different thing is to fight a big strong and nucleat country. It would carry the conflict in a long term war and it is not economic worth.


About Argentina the unsecurity is from another angle. i'm disappointed about the last elections. I felt debastated but we must carry on. The domination from the US is different here. They own us by debt, making from time to time our economy implode. They buy some politicians to work for them. Pretty sad. Our problem is not with a neighbor but with ourselves. Some of our politicians are "employee" of foreign powers and makes desitions against the people. Sad.

Byteman

Does really anybody think Russia could attack a NATO member country?

Just think about it 30 seconds... The idea can't stand any logic argument.

[17 March]

I'm ok with 17 March if everybody is agree.

Zanella

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanella

I would like to see a story mode with Stunts cars and characters like in NFSU2

I have more useful things to do.

If racing in Zakstunts isn't useful for you then you didn't get it at all.