Poll
Question:
FIFA Golden Ball 2013 - who will be the winner?
Option 1: Ribery
votes: 2
Option 2: Messi
votes: 2
Option 3: cristiana
votes: 3
The first important football event of the year: Premier League, estimation game matches. :D
How typical: lucky Real (winning such a game... grrrrr...), poor Atletico (losing 2 pts in the last few minutes). At least Barca destroyed the li'l Barca.
Messi con el cuarto Balón de Oro. En tu cara Gaynaldo!
Quote from: alanrotoi on January 08, 2013, 06:41:32 PM
Messi con el cuarto Balón de Oro. En tu cara Gaynaldo!
Messi's suit was quite gay anyway. :D
(http://cdn.caughtoffside.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Messi-Winner.jpg)
We've seen it before...
(http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.5031864241096054&pid=15.1)
Quote from: Chulk on January 08, 2013, 07:56:20 PM
We've seen it before...
(http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.5031864241096054&pid=15.1)
So this is the moment when Messi gets addicted to cocaine.
Messi and Maradona don't have the same background history from childhood. Maradona was very poor and Messi was not (he wasn't rich either, just an average working class family)
To be poor doesn't make you a drougaddict.
Quote from: alanrotoi on January 09, 2013, 04:48:21 AM
To be poor doesn't make you a drougaddict.
It does if you suddenly have an awful lot of money and don't have anybody to teach you right from wrong...
Quote"Messi may have four Golden Balls but I don't have to get on a box to buy a chocolate bar in a vending machine," Argentina website Canchallena reportedly quotes Ibrahimovic as saying.
"As for Cristiano Ronaldo, he's a privileged spectator, who only watches how Messi receives all his awards. He doesn't deserve to be in the top three, there are at least ten people better than him."
;D
Tips for Africa Cup of Nations? This tournament is always full of surprises. My choice is more or less random from the so called "better" teams: Ivory Coast.
Quote from: CTG on January 24, 2013, 11:09:46 AM
Tips for Africa Cup of Nations? This tournament is always full of surprises. My choice is more or less random from the so called "better" teams: Ivory Coast.
I'll bet with my heart: Go Ghana!
Summer Cup goes for Racing Club!
Can you imagine cr's face when he realized that a hat-trick is not enough against Messi? :D
Hmmmm... Atletico Madrid is quite impotent without Falcao.
(it seems nobody is really interested in nagger's cup)
FOREVER LAZIO!!! ;D :P
65' RMA-FCB 0-1, good match!
1-1, not that good. >:(
Pedro screwed it up with the missed chance. Lucky Real again: Carvalho could get a red card for using his hand.
Negative surprise of the match was Messi's weak performance. Another observation: Carvalho, Modric and Khedira don't seem to be on Real Madrid level, while Varane is really promising young talent.
At least no goals from cristiana...
Granada - Real Madrid 1-0 (with cr's own goal)
Shall I wish more? ;D
LOL! I wanna see that!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p44p2bmtdoQ
It seems Barca is not that great without the presence Vilanova. :-\
BJ: Premier League comments?
Some thoughts about the situation in the Premier League:
You'd think the Premier League is just one league, but it's actually three:
The top teams: (Manchester United, Manchester City, Chelsea, Arsenal)
The candidate teams: (Tottenham, Everton, Liverpool)
The bottom: (Swansea, West Bromwich, Stoke, West Ham, Fulham, Sunderland, Southampton, Newcastle, Norwich, Reading, Wigan, Aston Villa, QPR)
Arsenal is doing badly at the moment, but you know they'll be back. Liverpool used to be a top club, but that was 4 years ago now. Tottenham is aspiring to be a top club, but they still need to stabilize in the top. Everton has been consistently finishing in the sup-top for some years now.
It's normal in the premier league to see a rather small point difference between relegated teams and 8th or 9th placed teams, and then big gaps toward the top.
So, what's going on in the top?
Manchester United wins the championship this year. They have been consistent, effective and patient like always, and many of their players are able to pull off sudden world class actions that have won them games. The "patience" of Manchester United might also explain why they are successful in the league at the moment, but not in the CL. The league format suits them because they can play it cool in each game and never panic. In "do or die" games, they might get in trouble if they come under pressure.
Manchester City had some collective spirit last year, fighting for the first championship for this club since the middle ages. Now they're champions of England and nobody cares. The players collect their paychecks and play unmotivated football, beating crap teams because they're really 100 times better players, but not having what it takes to win the championship.
Chelsea is not doing as well as they should, considering the great players they have. I think they're missing some consistency. Too many fired managers and too many players being bought and sold. And Fernando Torres is still playing. His level is good enough to play for Wigan or Sunderland, not for Chelsea.
Tottenham is my team. I'm very happy that they've kept Gareth Bale, and that they've started using Jermaine Defoe, who is one of the best strikers in the league in my opinion (only van Persie and Suarez are definitely better). The team has become very strong now. Hopefully they can manage to keep their players and stick to their ideas and live up to their full potential. Lately they have been playing a lot of draws and not scoring many goals.
Everton is finally looking like a serious team. Still, they shouldn't be able to get into the top 4, because their squad just isn't as strong as the other top teams'. Manager must be doing a really good job. They have been playing really well.
Arsenal are in the middle of a disappointing season. Giroud is totally hyped and their defence is too insecure. Their starting eleven is strong, but it's substantially weaker than a couple of years ago when they had Song, van Persie and Fabregas.
Liverpool has some great players, but they only play well in 1 of 3 matches.
I think we will see the same teams in the top in the next 2 years (with Arsenal and Liverpool improving a bit). The "bottom" has no serious contenders for entering the top. Only Newcastle has showed some potential, but it was just for one season.
Nice evaluation. I thought you will comment only this round.
La Liga is a lot easier task.
Top team: Barcelona
Lately only "almost top team": Real Madrid
Wannabe top teams: Atletico Madrid, Valencia
And the others in the mass...
Nigeria - Burkina Faso... that's a joke!
Quote from: CTG on February 06, 2013, 11:46:26 PM
Nigeria - Burkina Faso... that's a joke!
Nigeria is the new king of 'N's!
For Alex Del Piero fans, this guy beat you all! (http://lostrolls.com/pics/t/6061-1.jpg)
I hate Juventus. :D
Messi's performance seems to be more and more annoying. Even if he plays crappy, he scores at least one goal. :D
I don't think I've said this enough times... BEST PLAYER EVER!
Barca will have a hard (almost impossible) mission in Nou Camp against Milan... :-\
I still like more Maradona than Messi. But Messi is getting better every minute :D
Quote from: alanrotoi on February 21, 2013, 03:43:37 PM
I still like more Maradona than Messi. But Messi is getting better every minute :D
What would you know? You are a Blanquiceleste SA fan...
Yeah, we will join enterprises league soon against coca cola and burger king teams :D
I hope Real will hate Riazor even more after this evening (Depor-Real 1-0, 66')
skid off, kaká
skid off, higuain!!! >:(
btw ARG guys: what's your opinion about Higuain? Do you consider him as a good player?
(others: please introduce your national team's players!)
Quote from: CTG on February 23, 2013, 09:47:38 PM
btw ARG guys: what's your opinion about Higuain? Do you consider him as a good player?
(others: please introduce your national team's players!)
I like him a lot. And I think he's really underrated. He's one of the best strikers there are today .Messi, Cristiano, Falcao, Agüero and maybe Zlatan have a higher shots/goal ratio. If Higuain gets a good ball inside the penalty area, chances of that ending in a goal are extremely high, no matter if it's a header, a volley, left or right foot, he will score. Benzema is far from Higuain's efficiency in that matter but still many consider Benzema really good and Higuain below him.
Underrated Higuain FTW! I love the way he shoots so accurate and well positioned in the field. He born for that, no doubt.
I like more "Pipita" than Agüero, because he has more "mental thing" and situational. Agüero is more foot ability I think.
Quote from: alanrotoi on February 23, 2013, 10:58:53 PM
Underrated Higuain FTW! I love the way he shoots so accurate and well positioned in the field. He born for that, no doubt.
I like more "Pipita" than Agüero, because he has more "mental thing" and situational. Agüero is more foot ability I think.
I think Agüero is the 5th best Forward at the moment. Messi, Cristiano, Falcao, Van Persie, Agüero for me. He is a very efficient scorer as Higuain is, but he can create a space for himself much more often than Higuain, as Aguero is ways faster.
I'd have agreed last year, but this year I think Suárez is better than Agüero. And you are ignoring Ibrahimovic. He's not as good as he thinks he is, but still, I think he can compete well with Agüero and Suárez.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on February 25, 2013, 11:35:07 AM
I'd have agreed last year, but this year I think Suárez is better than Agüero. And you are ignoring Ibrahimovic. He's not as good as he thinks he is, but still, I think he can compete well with Agüero and Suárez.
I would be glad to see Ibrahimovic and cr in the same team. Imagine a fight for the alpha dog role: cristiana can be as arrogant as he wants, but Ibra has the power (and the black belt, hehe).
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on February 25, 2013, 11:35:07 AM
I'd have agreed last year, but this year I think Suárez is better than Agüero. And you are ignoring Ibrahimovic. He's not as good as he thinks he is, but still, I think he can compete well with Agüero and Suárez.
Right! Zlatan would come after Falcao but before Van Persie. I don't agree about Suarez though.
My subjective list
0 Illés Béla ;D
...
100000 LIGHT YEARS GAP
...
1 Messi
...
HUGE GAP
...
2 Ibrahimovic
3 Falcao
4 Van Persie
5 Balotelli (when he's not acting like a monkey)
cr is not top10, even if he scores 70 goals in a season. This is a team game, not personal glory hunting. (Neymar will be the same)
Yeah, I know, Ibra is selfish too. But he deserved the respect on the field (is he Chuck Norris of football? :D). You won't ever see him crying after a fake fall.
I'm a bit bored of so many El Clásico games...
Both teams are in great danger of being eliminated from the CL.
Be sure that Real will reach the quarter-finals.
Btw what are your TOP5 (or 10)favorite / most hated teams around the world? (you can pick any clubs from any countries)
Favorites:
1 Györi ETO (of course)
2 Atletico Madrid
3 Bácsa FC (Hungarian 5th class... ;D)
4 FC Barcelona
5 FC Porto
6 Athletic Bilbao
7 Benfica
8 AZ Alkmaar
9 Zenit St. Petersburg
10 AS Roma
Most hated:
1 Real Madrid (would be ~5th without cr and mou)
2 Manchester United
3 Steaua Bucuresti
4 Videoton (skid off Orbán)
5 Felpéc SE (eternal rivals of Bácsa)
6 Újpest (purple monkeys)
7 Chelsea (a.k.a. Dynamo London)
8 Debreceni VSC (peasants)
9 Zalaegerszeg (retarded peasants)
10 Juventus (because Poo likes it)
Hmmm... national teams, too:
(0 Hungary)
1 Spain
2 Argentina
3 Poland
4 Croatia
5 Uruguay
6 Russia
7 Germany (they started to play an enjoyable game in the last 5 years)
8 Brasil (lost the spirit, they were much higher on my list 10 years ago)
9 Italy
10 Paraguay (nice memories from the Chilavert era)
skid off list:
1 Romania (obvious)
HUGE GAP
2 England (ugly style, ugly heads)
3 Portugal (cr alone was enough to move them from top10 to worst 3, good old times with Figo, Abel Xavier, Nuno Gomes... :D)
4 Slovakia (the minor enemy)
5 Lithuania (mngv l vn fngv)
6 South Korea (I can't forgive the World Cup 2002)
7 Netherlands (those arrogant guys irritate me very much - I liked them in the time of Kluivert, Seedorf, Bergkamp, Overmars, De Boer^2...)
8 USA (does anybody like this country anyway?)
9 France (big brother of Romania :D)
10 Sweden (Ibra effect, he scored some very last minute goals against us)
Why always that hate againts Romania? You were in a war or just a neighbour competivity?
Quote from: alanrotoi on February 26, 2013, 03:17:36 PM
Why always that hate againts Romania? You were in a war or just a neighbour competivity?
Guess which one. However, they hate us as much as we hate them.
Let me explain it with a joke (it sounds a lot better in Hungarian, but never mind):
Quote from: forgot which joke site, but the translation sucks...The countries negotiate about their additional fate in Trianon after WWI. The Hungarian envoy volunteers for wishing to sound on the middle of the negotiation.
It is called upon!
- I would only like to say, that when we came here into Carpathian Basin, in that night the Romanians stole our horses.
The others do not understand it really, are asking the president what to do, if the Hungarian would like it if his remark would be registered.
- Not, it's not needed. I said it in that manner only...
The negotiation continues, the Hungarian wishes to sound again:
- I would only like to say, that when we came here into Carpathian Basin, in that night the Romanians stole our horses.
They are asking again what to do, does he wants to have it registered?
- It's not needed, I said it in that manner only...
The negotiation continues, the Hungarian asks for a permission for sounding again:
- I would only like to say, that when we came here into Carpathian Basin, in that night the Romanians stole our horses.
The head of the one sent from Romania is red already! He gushes out howling:
- But since we were not even here then!!
And now the Hungarian with a smile:
- OK, let this be registered...
I have a fav in most countries I watch footall from, though not always I hate a team from a Country.
Argentina - Gimnasia y Esgrima de La Plata are of course on top of the list
In Italy: AC Milan, the only one not playing awful catenaccio
In Spain: Valencia, not sure why, maybe from the Ortega era.
In England: Arsenal, I like Arsene Wenger's style
In The Netherlands: Ajax, fell in love with that amazing Ajax Yari Litmanen commanded in '95
In Portugal: Benfica, just because I like their shirt a lot
In Brazil: Flamengo, Savio had a lot to do with it
In Germany: Borussia Dortmund, I think because the kicked Juventus ass back in '97 Champions League, but not sure. Their shirt looks great too.
Rest of the leagues, they just suck.
About teams I hate: Estudiantes de La Plata (obviously), Man. United, Juventus (except during the Nedved era), Chelsea.
That's it for clubs. Now NT:
Love: Argentina, Czech Rep. (Only two NT I own their shirt)
Like: The Netherlands, Denmark, France, Japan (Cap. Tsubasa!), Russia.
Dislike: Italy, Germany, Brazil
Hate: England, Chile, Mexico, Portugal (Guess why?), Greece (awful style + Euro 2004)
Doesn't even qualify as a football team: USA (and every country calling it soccer)
Shadows in Nou Camp...
Yes, in USA soccer must be called sucker :D
About teams:
Argentina: Racing Club.
Netherlands: PSV, since I played a game from 1990 and used this team. I use PSV in every football game I play :).
Spain: Barcelona, because of Messi, I am not win-it-all team friendly.
Portugal: Portugal? They play football there? OMG!
Italy: Inter (because when my father travel to there in the early 90's he brought me Klinsman's shirt :)
National Teams:
1st Argentina by far of course.
- Indonesia: When I was a boy I invented a football league of this country more than 20 teams and most of its players. :D
- Ecuador: I like this country.
"I love when they loose humiliatingly":
-Brazil, because is the classic of the region, continent and world. And England. Maybe USA too.
Counter-Hate: (I mean I had nothing against them until I realized they hate us!)
-Uruguay (This is funny because they hate us and they feel we are the best classic opponent, but we don't loose time against small ancient teams, we "fight" against the best (yeah, Brazil :()
-Chile It's funny they hate us too, but they sign in Argentinians as managers for their national team. So I want to see them humiliated too.
Before the "counter-hate" era I always, when Argentina was eliminated I chose to cheer for my neighbours like Uruguay. We have the same culture, we are more than brothers we are almost the same (also we were under the same government in the past). They are part of the "Rioplatense" culture (culture from De La Plata river), the food, the Tango, the way of speaking, everything, almost the same. Anyway I found most of them hate and envy us A LOT. Dissapointing.
National teams, like:
1 Hungary
2 Italy
3 Croatia
4 Sweden
5 Nigeria
6 Poland
7 Senegal
8 Netherlands
9 Bulgaria
10 Spain
National teams, dislike:
1 England
2 South Korea
3 Germany
4 Scotland
5 Wales
6 Northern Ireland
7 Slovakia
8 Romania
9 USA
10 Australia
Club teams, like:
1 Kazincbarcikai SC
2 Juventus
3 Debreceni VSC
4 Lazio
5 Barcelona
6 PSV Eindhoven
7 Udinese
8 Athletic Bilbao
9 FC Eger
10 Zenit St. Petersburg
Club teams, dislike:
1 Manchester United
2 Liverpool
3 Arsenal
4 Chelsea
5 Diósgyöri VTK
6 Újpesti TE
7 Borussia Dortmund
8 Real Madrid
9 Manchester City
10 Nyíregyháza Spartacus
Poo: could you ask for such a list from Vodka? It would be interesting to see the preferences of an "ugly football" (=ENG) fanatic.
Club teams:
1. AGF (hometown team)
2. Tottenham Hotspur
3. Brønshøj BK ('local' team)
4. FC Barcelona
5. Aarhus Fremad
6. Fiorentina
7. Racing Club (because of Alan Rotoi)
8. Swansea (because of Michael Laudrup)
9. Kazincbarcikai (because of Akoss Poo)
10. Györi ETO (because of CTG)
National teams:
1. Denmark
2. Hungary
3. England
4. China
5. Faroe Islands
6. Paraguay
7. Ghana
8. St. Kitts and Nevis
9. Costa Rica
10. Norway
The negative lists:
1. Randers FC
2. Real Madrid
3. Chelsea
4. Videoton
5. Manchester City
1. USA (inevitably...)
2. Portugal
3. North Korea
4. Sweden (not like Hungary/Romania at all, but there's some basic rivalry)
5. Israel
you forgot MTK :D
Yeah, but honestly, I searched my heart and I had no feelings for MTK Budapest.
Ambivalent feelings about the latest football results:
- Deep crisis at Barca, skid off Real! >:(
- Atletico Madrid was quite impotent versus Malaga ::)
- Juventus couldn't beat Napoli, wheeeeee! :P
- Györi ETO had a hard time against the weakling Kaposvár, only a lucky last minute victory (1-2)... however, 3 pts in the pocket, so who cares? :D Btw great comeback from the best ETO player of the last decade: Tarmo Kink assisted the first goal and scored the second one.
- Újpest sucked a really huge one: Paks humiliated them in their own stadium (0-6) ;D ;D ;D
:( screw Real Madrid. Unlucky red card for Manchester United. Actually, I think red cards should be abolished. The player should be sent off, but a new one allowed in (unless all substitutions have already been used), and then of course still suspension for the next matches and a fine for the club.
DICKSUCKER MANURE!!! :D :D :D
(though Real is also a piece of crap, still better than Manure)
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on March 05, 2013, 11:22:20 PM
:( screw Real Madrid. Unlucky red card for Manchester United. Actually, I think red cards should be abolished. The player should be sent off, but a new one allowed in (unless all substitutions have already been used), and then of course still suspension for the next matches and a fine for the club.
You can't do that, nonsence.
I think it's football's answer to death penalty.
Also, if the aim is that the best team wins the game, the rule about red cards works against this.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on March 05, 2013, 11:22:20 PM
:( screw Real Madrid. Unlucky red card for Manchester United. Actually, I think red cards should be abolished. The player should be sent off, but a new one allowed in (unless all substitutions have already been used), and then of course still suspension for the next matches and a fine for the club.
Nice utopia anyway.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on March 05, 2013, 11:32:43 PM
DICKSUCKER MANURE!!! :D :D :D
(though Real is also a piece of crap, still better than Manure)
I hope cr goes back to MU and Mou also leaves the team - I hate to hate a spanish team so hard. Real Madrid with Hierro, Morientes and Raul used to be a noble opponent.
How strange: even if Puskás played in Real Madrid, most of the Hungarians prefer Barcelona...
Quote from: CTG on March 06, 2013, 02:07:19 PM
How strange: even if Puskás played in Real Madrid, most of the Hungarians prefer Barcelona...
There are lots of Argentinians that still prefer Cristiano R. over Messi. Sometimes people hate our own players because they don't win the world cup with Argentina (as if it were that easy...).
There is a stupid belief that Maradona won the entire cup all by himself, so people expect Messi to the same. They think Maradona is still better because Messi hasn't won a WC although that does not apply to Pele on ther very stupid logic.
Quote from: Chulk on March 06, 2013, 02:57:40 PM
Quote from: CTG on March 06, 2013, 02:07:19 PM
How strange: even if Puskás played in Real Madrid, most of the Hungarians prefer Barcelona...
There are lots of Argentinians that still prefer Cristiano R. over Messi. Sometimes people hate our own players because they don't win the world cup with Argentina (as if it were that easy...).
There is a stupid belief that Maradona won the entire cup all by himself, so people expect Messi to the same. They think Maradona is still better because Messi hasn't won a WC although that does not apply to Pele on ther very stupid logic.
Why do I feel that Mr. Osuna will argue ? :D
I think Maradona is still, better just because he has many more years to improve his skills. We should compare them in 10 year to have a complete analysis or opinion.
They have diferences on the field.
Quote from: CTG on March 06, 2013, 03:24:49 PM
Why do I feel that Mr. Osuna will argue ? :D
I knew he would say Maradona is better, but he's not those that simply say 'Messi will be better than Maradona if he win the WC...'
Everytime somebody says that, I tell them Pele is the best then (he's not!), just to piss them off (which I manage to do every single time)
Yes, I think if Messi keeps this way, he'll be considered the best all times. He has a lot of story to write yet, that's the best of it. We can enjoy his game for a lot of time yet.
Time to give my lists. :)
National teams, liked:
1-2. Hungary & Slovakia
3. Norway
4. Germany
5. Uruguay
6. Denmark
7. Czech Republic
8. South Africa
9. Iceland
10. Liechtenstein
National teams, hated:
1. South Korea (since World Cup 2002)
2. Australia (riverkillers, go home!)
3. Romania
4. Greece
5. England
6. Portugal (incl. cr factor)
7. Sweden (incl. Ibra factor)
8. Netherlands
9. USA
10. Northern Ireland
Clubs, liked:
1. Szolnoki MÁV FC
2. MFK Košice
3. Viking Stavanger
4. Athletic Bilbao
5. Barcelona
6. Celtic
7. AZ Alkmaar
8. FC Eger (my favourite town of those with a 1st league team in Hungary)
9. MTK (Béla Illés spent his best years there, now it's a low-budget team based on young own trained players)
10. Kashiwa Reysol
Clubs, hated:
1. Paris SG (became the playground of a bored billionaire + Ibra factor)
2. Videoton (I think it doesn't need any comment)
3. Puskás Akadémia (Videoton II in Orbán's home village, playing in the 2nd division)
4. Chelsea (see at PSG)
5. Anzhi Makhachkala (see at PSG)
6. Real Madrid
7. Újpest FC
8. Bayern München
9. AC Milan
10. Ferencváros (would have been 1st on this list some years ago, but they didn't deserve the suffer they went through due to the leaders of Hungarian football and their own management, looking at the club only as a source of money).
Quote from: CTG on February 26, 2013, 11:21:35 AM
6 South Korea (I can't forgive the World Cup 2002)
Quote from: Akoss Poo on February 28, 2013, 09:32:56 AM
2 South Korea
Quote from: Usrin on March 07, 2013, 05:14:50 PM
1. South Korea (since World Cup 2002)
What's with all this South Korea hate from Hungarians? Is it a common thing for most Hungarians?
I know you said WC 2002, what's the deal with it? You didn't even took part in it...
Possible reasons:
-South Korea = USA colony since 1950
-they are yellow
-If there would be a Stunts Korean pipsqueak he'll be the best pipsqueak ever.
-they won a lot of matches in penalty kicks OMG in their own WC.
I don't know more :D haha
My reasons:
-South Korea = USA colony since 1950 --> 0.999 %
-they are yellow --> 0%
-If there would be a Stunts Korean pipsqueak he'll be the best pipsqueak ever. --> 0.001%
-they won a lot of matches in penalty kicks OMG in their own WC. --> 99%
In my eyes the latter was the greatest scandal of the history of World Cups. It happened before and after that referees made suspicious 'mistakes' during a single match. But that was the only case when they pushed a really crappy team against a series of definitely better opponents, and it was completely impossible to say that they were only lucky with the mistakes of the referee... Seeing the 'success' of South Korea, I seriously thought about stopping to watch international football.
I thought that might be the reason, but I didn't think you gave it that much importance. WC '66 semifinals were far a worse arrangement than 2002
Such refined distinctions... As for me, I support São Paulo, and lately I have been pretty much neutral whenever São Paulo is not involved. Teams I like to see doing well include Barcelona (too easy ::)) and Liverpool (jajaja); additionally, I have a slight dislike for Chelsea and Real Madrid (slight enough so that, for instance, I never had any issues with using a Madrid shirt I got as a gift back in my teens). And, naturally, laughing at Palmeiras and Corinthians still is as good a pastime as any :D
As for NTs, beyond Brazil I have a soft spot for Poland, Japan, Sweden, Denmark and whichever team is playing great football at a given tournament - even Argentina sometimes :o
Quote from: Usrin on March 07, 2013, 09:54:04 PM
My reasons:
-South Korea = USA colony since 1950 --> 0.999 %
-they are yellow --> 0%
-If there would be a Stunts Korean pipsqueak he'll be the best pipsqueak ever. --> 0.001%
-they won a lot of matches in penalty kicks OMG in their own WC. --> 99%
In my eyes the latter was the greatest scandal of the history of World Cups. It happened before and after that referees made suspicious 'mistakes' during a single match. But that was the only case when they pushed a really crappy team against a series of definitely better opponents, and it was completely impossible to say that they were only lucky with the mistakes of the referee... Seeing the 'success' of South Korea, I seriously thought about stopping to watch international football.
here: 1% - 4% - 0% - 95%
(yeah, i'm still racist)
Quote from: Duplode on March 08, 2013, 05:41:18 AM
Poland
Do you have Polish ancestors? You had Poland's logo as an avatar before, right?
Quote from: Chulk on March 08, 2013, 06:55:31 PM
Quote from: Duplode on March 08, 2013, 05:41:18 AM
Poland
Do you have Polish ancestors? You had Poland's logo as an avatar before, right?
Quote from: Duplode on April 11, 2010, 12:00:59 AM
Awful news... being a 3/8 Pole ancestry-wise I feel even more disheartened.
Hungarian Second Division East
The spring season has started:
Round 16: Vác-Kazincbarcika cancelled (Vác is struggling with license problems, told the Football Association 1 days before the match that they won't be able to play the match, Kazincbarcika could not avoid postponing the match, travelled to Vác, there was no match played, Kazincbarcika might get the 3 points for the game - decision tomorrow, but Vác is still threathened with getting expelled from the championship)
Round 17: Kazincbarcika-Putnok 3-0
1 Békéscsaba 17 9 7 1 36 : 20 16 34
2 Vasas 17 10 3 4 26 : 18 8 33
3 Mez?kövesd 17 9 2 6 26 : 20 6 29
4 Orosháza 17 8 2 7 30 : 31 -1 26
5 Balmazújváros 17 7 4 6 27 : 23 4 25
6 Nyíregyháza 17 7 4 6 21 : 22 -1 25
7 Honvéd-MFA 17 7 3 7 27 : 28 -1 24
8 Cegléd 17 6 6 5 32 : 28 4 22
9 Vác 15 6 4 5 22 : 20 2 22
10 Ferencváros II 17 6 3 8 26 : 29 -3 21
11 Kazincbarcika 16 6 2 8 21 : 24 -3 20
12 Újpest II 17 6 1 10 23 : 31 -8 19
13 Putnok VSE 17 5 4 8 26 : 33 -7 19
14 Szeged 2011 16 4 6 6 24 : 28 -4 18
15 Szolnok 17 4 5 8 17 : 23 -6 17
16 Debrecen II 17 4 4 9 22 : 28 -6 16
Cegléd: 2 pts were deducted.
Vác-Kazincbarcika and Szeged-Vác games were cancelled, no result shown in the table.
Best team will get promoted to top division (in the Western Group as well), they will be replaced by the 15th-16th placed teams (2 teams) of top division 2012/13 (currently Eger and Siófok). 2nd-5th placed teams from both Groups will play next year in the one-group Second Division (2x4=8 teams), 6th-8th placed teams of both Groups will play playoff games against the 6 third division champions for the remaining six places in the one-group Second division 2013/14.
"B" teams of top division teams (Honvéd-MFA, Ferencváros II, Újpest II, Debrecen II) do not count, so currently Vác would play a playoff game against a third division champion instead of Honvéd-MFA).
Meanwhile in the first class, after 19 rounds:
1 Györi ETO FC 19 13 5 1 39:17 +22 44
2 MTK Budapest 19 10 5 4 31:20 +11 35
3 Debreceni VSC 19 10 2 7 28:19 +9 32
4 Videoton FC 19 9 5 5 29:15 +14 32
5 Ferencvárosi TC 19 8 7 4 31:24 +7 31
6 Budapest Honvéd 19 8 4 7 30:29 +1 28
7 Diósgyöri VTK 19 7 7 5 19:20 -1 28
8 MVM-Paks 19 6 8 5 30:22 +8 26
9 Haladás 19 6 7 6 25:20 +5 25
10 Kecskeméti TE 19 6 6 7 24:28 -4 24
11 Kaposvári Rákóczi 19 6 5 8 20:25 -5 23
12 Újpest FC 19 5 7 7 26:30 -4 22
13 Pécsi MFC 19 5 7 7 20:26 -6 22
14 Lombard Pápa 19 5 5 9 16:30 -14 20
15 Egri FC 19 2 5 12 15:35 -20 11
16 Siófok 19 2 3 14 17:40 -23 9
Quote from: Duplode on March 08, 2013, 05:41:18 AM
even Argentina sometimes :o
We know, everybody loves us! ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Chulk on March 11, 2013, 07:18:07 PM
Quote from: Duplode on March 08, 2013, 05:41:18 AM
even Argentina sometimes :o
We know, everybody loves us! ;D ;D ;D
Actually I hate you ("kidding" ;D), but your national football team is great.
Quote from: CTG on March 12, 2013, 10:24:37 AM
Quote from: Chulk on March 11, 2013, 07:18:07 PM
Quote from: Duplode on March 08, 2013, 05:41:18 AM
even Argentina sometimes :o
We know, everybody loves us! ;D ;D ;D
Actually I hate you ("kidding" ;D), but your national football team is great.
Our attack is second to none, defence is the weak point. If we manage to get solid on defence, then we can be truly candidates in 2014.
Attack wins matches, but it's defence that wins titles!
Quote from: CTG on February 21, 2013, 10:32:52 AM
Barca will have a hard (almost impossible) mission in Nou Camp against Milan... :-\
Easier than expected, LOL.
Quote from: CTG on March 12, 2013, 10:52:04 PM
Quote from: CTG on February 21, 2013, 10:32:52 AM
Barca will have a hard (almost impossible) mission in Nou Camp against Milan... :-\
Easier than expected, LOL.
Having Messi is almost cheating...
that's the general problem with you, ARG pipsqueaks... :D
What a great evening! I hope they win the CL. And if not them, then Dortmund :-)
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on March 13, 2013, 10:27:33 AM
And if not them, then Dortmund :-)
We arrived to the moment, when BJ and Poo became deadly enemies... :D
(1997, CL final, still funny :P)
Quote from: CTG on March 12, 2013, 10:52:04 PM
Quote from: CTG on February 21, 2013, 10:32:52 AM
Barca will have a hard (almost impossible) mission in Nou Camp against Milan... :-\
Easier than expected, LOL.
When it becomes really important, they are as great as they were. (After so much success, who would care about Spanish Cup or collecting more victories in the championship when leading by >10 pts?)
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on March 13, 2013, 10:27:33 AM
And if not them, then Dortmund :-)
I agree!
Quote from: CTG on March 13, 2013, 10:30:06 AM
(1997, CL final, still funny :P)
That's why I became a Dortmund fan!
Quote from: Chulk on March 13, 2013, 05:35:38 PM
Quote from: CTG on March 13, 2013, 10:30:06 AM
(1997, CL final, still funny :P)
That's why I became a Dortmund fan!
I forgive you being a McLaren fan. :D
Quote from: CTG on March 13, 2013, 06:34:53 PM
I forgive you being a McLaren fan. :D
You can't blame me for that, you saw the day I was born...
Muhahahaha, Premier League is getting weaker and weaker (no ENG teams in the CL quarter finals)
Predicted duels in QF:
Real Madrid - Barcelona (...)
Juventus - Bayern München
Galatasaray - Borussia Dortmund
PSG - Malaga
Boca Jrs won again with a penalty kick in Libertadores Cup, this time against Nacional from Uruguay.
Several HUN-ROM duels in the following weeks:
Hungary - Romania, World Cup 2014 qualifications, empty stadium match... (probably you know the reason, this is the punishment for the Hungary-Israel "friendly"...); prediction: 0-3
Ferencváros - CFR Cluj, friendly match - the last one in the current stadium of FTC; prediction: 1-2
not football, but still: Györi Audi ETO KC - Oltchim Valcea, female handball, EHF Champions League semi-finals; prediction: 30-29 in Györ, 25-26 in Romania, Valcea wins by more "guest goals"
Quote from: CTG on March 19, 2013, 09:20:59 AM
Several HUN-ROM duels in the following weeks:
Hungary - Romania, World Cup 2014 qualifications, empty stadium match... (probably you know the reason, this is the punishment for the Hungary-Israel "friendly"...); prediction: 0-3
Ferencváros - CFR Cluj, friendly match - the last one in the current stadium of FTC; prediction: 1-2
not football, but still: Györi Audi ETO KC - Oltchim Valcea, female handball, EHF Champions League semi-finals; prediction: 30-29 in Györ, 25-26 in Romania, Valcea wins by more "guest goals"
You're so optimistic!
Hungarian supporters sang racist chants at Israel, I guess? It's too bad any non-racist supporters get punished for this, but if Hungary loses because of it, and the racist bitches care anything for the national team, it should teach them a lesson.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on March 19, 2013, 10:41:29 AM
You're so optimistic!
Could be even worse... I think the Hungarian national team is quite overconfident lately. Romania will give a huge slap, even if their current team is far the weakest I've ever seen.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on March 19, 2013, 10:41:29 AM
Hungarian supporters sang racist chants at Israel, I guess? It's too bad any non-racist supporters get punished for this, but if Hungary loses because of it, and the racist bitches care anything for the national team, it should teach them a lesson.
The fans won't ever change. I still remember the good old Ferencváros vs Ajax Amsterdam CL round phase matches (1995/96), where all the 'N' players were insulted with loud "boo". As an answer, the Dutch team - being one of the best club in Europe at the time - humiliated FTC on both matches: 5-1, 4-0 (or something like that). Other results from the group: FTC-Real Madrid 1-1, 1-6; FTC-Grasshoppers 3-3, 3-0 (hohoho, Vincze Ottó! ;D).
Btw if the fans sang a racist song in Hungarian, who traited the country with telling it to FIFA? :D (Yeah, I know, it's hard to mishear the words "Auschwitz" or "Hitler"...)
I guess this is the best moment to remember János Hrutka, the Hungarian free kick specialist of the 90s.
The legendary goal versus Romania: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDXfnZd2h1g
England: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZiIXeST1i8 (skid YOU SEAMEN!!! ;D)
and Lithuania: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Eyxxxar4Y
Cegléd-Kazincbarcika postponed (due to severe snow drift conditions in the whole country)
Kazincbarcika-Ferencváros II 4-2
Standings:
1. Békéscsaba Elöre 18 9 7 2 38–23 +15 34
2. Vasas 18 10 3 5 28–21 +7 33
3. Mezökövesd-Zsóry 18 10 2 6 29–22 +7 32
4. Orosháza FC 18 9 2 7 31–31 0 29
5. Balmazújváros 17 7 4 6 27–23 +4 25
6. Nyíregyháza Spartacus 18 7 4 7 21–24 –3 25
7. Budapest Honvéd II-MFA 18 7 3 8 28–33 –5 24
8. Kazincbarcikai SC 17 7 2 8 25–26 –1 23
9. Ceglédi VSE 18 6 7 5 32–28 +4 23
10. Újpest FC B 18 7 1 10 25–31 –6 22
11. Dunakanyar-Vác 16 6 4 6 22–21 +1 22
12. Ferencvárosi TC II 18 6 3 9 28–33 –5 21
13. Szolnoki MÁV FC 18 5 5 8 20–25 –5 20
14. DVSC-DEAC 18 5 4 9 27–29 –2 19
15. Putnok VSE 17 5 4 8 26–33 –7 19
16. Szeged 2011 17 4 7 6 24–28 –4 19
That would mean a playoff for the one-group second division for Kazincbarcika.
Vác-Kazincbarcika and Szeged-Vác matches were not played. Vác played against Orosháza this time. 3 points will be awarded to Kazincbarcika and Szeged, or Vác still might get excluded from the championship (the latter one seems to be even more favourable, since last August Kazincbarcika sucked against Vác 1-3).
Really important matches for Denmark and Hungary tomorrow.
If Denmark wins against Bulgaria, we are definitely expected to take 2nd place in that group.
Bayern München - Hamburg 9-2... bizarre!
Quote from: CTG on March 31, 2013, 02:00:23 PM
Bayern München - Hamburg 9-2... bizarre!
Bayern - Juventus 2-0... not enough! ;D
Quote from: CTG on April 03, 2013, 08:45:57 AM
Bayern - Juventus 2-0... not enough! ;D
They should have won by a bigger margin. I don't think Juventus can turn the tide anyway... they're just not good enough
Mezökövesd-Kazincbarcika 2-1 - Mezökövesd is a top team in the league, and according to the news, we could have won this match
Kazincbarcika-Szolnok 2-2 - Annoying result again, Szolnok equalised with a late penalty, which was a bad decision by the referee
Quote from: Akoss Poo on April 08, 2013, 12:43:49 PM
Szolnok equalised with a late penalty, which was a bad decision by the referee
bla bla bla, hungarobullshit... :P
Quote from: CTG on April 03, 2013, 08:45:57 AM
Bayern - Juventus 2-0
Dèjá vu.
Germany vs. Spain. Semis or Final?
Quote from: Chulk on April 11, 2013, 04:26:03 AM
Quote from: CTG on April 03, 2013, 08:45:57 AM
Bayern - Juventus 2-0
Dèjá vu.
Germany vs. Spain. Semis or Final?
Barca vs Real seems to be too obvious.
EL: Fenerbahce, Basel, Benfica, Chelsea... the winner is too obvious.
Yes. Screw Chelsea. I even hope Manchester City will beat them in the FA Cup semifinal. And I really don't like Manchester City.
Hungarian championship: Györi ETO FC - Orbán FC (Videoton) 1-1
They are going to play against eachother soon in Hungarian Cup, too. I think ETO will lose the championship from several points of advantage in the last few rounds (whatever the experts say, Videoton will be the champion by a heavy cheat).
Standings:
1 GYÖRI ETO FC 22 15 6 1 44 : 18 26 51
2 MTK BUDAPEST 22 12 5 5 35 : 21 14 41
3 VIDEOTON FC 23 11 6 6 38 : 18 20 39
4 FERENCVÁROSI TC 22 10 8 4 39 : 26 13 38
5 DEBRECENI VSC 23 11 3 9 33 : 23 10 36
6 BUDAPEST HONVÉD 22 9 5 8 34 : 33 1 32
7 MVM-PAKS 23 7 11 5 34 : 25 9 32
8 DIÓSGYÖRI VTK 22 8 7 7 21 : 24 -3 31
9 KECSKEMÉTI TE 22 8 6 8 27 : 30 -3 30
10 HALADÁS 23 7 9 7 26 : 21 5 30
11 KAPOSVÁRI RÁKÓCZI 23 8 5 10 26 : 28 -2 29
12 ÚJPEST FC 22 7 7 8 28 : 31 -3 28
13 PÉCSI MFC 23 7 7 9 24 : 30 -6 28
14 LOMBARD PÁPA 23 6 5 12 17 : 37 -20 23
15 EGRI FC 23 2 6 15 17 : 47 -30 12
16 FGSZ SIÓFOK 22 2 4 16 20 : 51 -31 10
Quote from: CTG on April 15, 2013, 09:08:31 AM
Hungarian championship: Györi ETO FC - Orbán FC (Videoton) 1-1
They are going to play against eachother soon in Hungarian Cup, too.
First match:
Videoton - Györi ETO 0-2 ;D
Quote from: CTG on April 15, 2013, 09:08:31 AM
2 MTK BUDAPEST 22 12 5 5 35 : 21 14 41
...
16 FGSZ SIÓFOK 22 2 4 16 20 : 51 -31 10
Whohoooo, Siófok-MTK 2-1!
There is no way Györi ETO can lose this title...
Go PÉCSI MFC !!!!!!!!!
(http://sillero.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/pecsi-product-shot.jpg)
Quote from: Chulk on April 20, 2013, 06:41:26 AM
There is no way Györi ETO can lose this title...
Oh really?
Kecskeméti TE - Györi ETO 5-2
3 rounds, 2 points... Somebody really wants to see Videoton winning from a huge disadvantage.
Quote from: CTG on April 23, 2013, 08:49:00 PM
Quote from: Chulk on April 20, 2013, 06:41:26 AM
There is no way Györi ETO can lose this title...
Oh really?
Kecskeméti TE - Györi ETO 5-2
3 rounds, 2 points... Somebody really wants to see Videoton winning from a huge disadvantage.
Black Tuesday, the Barca era is officially over.
That was one really weird game. Even though Bayern really deserved that 4 goals difference, 3 out of the 4 goals where illegal if you ask me.
On the 1º one, the guy that heads the ball before Muller is clearly over the defender, illegally keeping him from jumping to fight for the ball.
The 2º is off-side, nothing to say here.
Muller curtain to cover Robben from Alva on the 3º should have been called a foul, that move is legal in basketball but not in football.
On the other hand, a PK should have been called for Bayern when Pique touched the ball with his hand.
Let's hope for a German Final
Quote from: Chulk on April 24, 2013, 04:39:45 AM
That was one really weird game. Even though Bayern really deserved that 4 goals difference, 3 out of the 4 goals where illegal if you ask me.
What did you expect from a crappy and corrupt Hungarian refree? :D
Ugh, a sad day. I guess we miss:
1. Josep Guardiola
2. Some world-class young, self-bred players
You know what's scary? Bayern already sign Lewandowski and Götze for next season, along with Pep Guardiola to guide the team.
Quote from: Chulk on April 25, 2013, 05:19:19 AM
You know what's scary? Bayern already sign Lewandowski and Götze for next season, along with Pep Guardiola to guide the team.
Don't worry about Pep, he was just a metrosexual muppet with Vilanova's knowledge in the background. He'll fail at Bayern.
(There's no question anymore: Lewandowski is a world-class forward. Too bad, if he really goes to Bayern. Btw I hate this kind of BM strategy: buying the best players of your rivals - not to get stronger, but to make those teams weaker.)
Predictions for the re-matches:
Barcelona - Bayern 2-1 (Messi, Pedro; Müller)
Real - Dortmund 3-0 (c.r. 3 goals... I hope it won't happen)
(http://www.nemzetisport.hu/data/kepgaleria/NSO/Dortmund-Real_memek/bundes-primera_w1024.jpg)
EL: Chelsea is in the final for sure, Benfica-Fenerbahce is still a question.
Quote from: Chulk on April 20, 2013, 06:41:26 AM
There is no way Györi ETO can lose this title...
Györi ETO - Paks 3-4 (3-0)
I really hope ETO became only crappy and not corrupt.
Quote from: CTG on April 26, 2013, 10:28:52 PM
Quote from: Chulk on April 20, 2013, 06:41:26 AM
There is no way Györi ETO can lose this title...
Györi ETO - Paks 3-4 (3-0)
I really hope ETO became only crappy and not corrupt.
Meanwhile:
Ferencváros - Videoton 0-1, what a "surprise" in the championship! (These two teams played the league cup final few days ago, where Ferencváros destroyed Orbán's muppets with 5-1...)
Quote from: CTG on April 25, 2013, 06:58:41 AM
Real - Dortmund 3-0 (c.r. 3 goals... I hope it won't happen)
Half time, 0-0 so far. ::)
See the magic, Benzema's goal will break the ice. Hala Madrid! ;)
Quote from: MiroX on April 30, 2013, 10:27:07 PM
See the magic, Benzema's goal will break the ice. Hala Madrid! ;)
RAAAAAAAAAAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!!! TWO! GO-GO-GO!!!
Almost, guys, almost! 15/180 minutes of space football is not enough versus the german tanks.
Quote from: CTG on April 26, 2013, 10:28:52 PM
Quote from: Chulk on April 20, 2013, 06:41:26 AM
There is no way Györi ETO can lose this title...
Györi ETO - Paks 3-4 (3-0)
I really hope ETO became only crappy and not corrupt.
26th round:
Újpest - Györi ETO FC 1-2 ;D
4 rounds left, we are 7 pts ahead. Believe me, ETO won't be the champion - we have too strong opponents left. Videoton will "win" the title with an "epic" finish, skid you Orbán!
Remaining rounds:
Györi ETO - Ferencváros (5th)
Budapest Honvéd (4th) - Györi ETO
Györi ETO - MTK Budapest (3rd)
Eger (16th) - Györi ETO
Debrecen (6th) - Videoton
Videoton - Kaposvár (12th)
Kecskemét (7th) - Videoton
Videoton - Pécsi MFC (13th)
Meanwhile in second class, "Videoton B" a.k.a. Puskás Akadémia wins the championship with a huge gap. Orbán's son is also playing there - shall I say he's not really talented (as far as I know he doesn't really play that much :D)? Since second teams are not allowed to qualify to first class, Puskás Akadémia is not a B team anymore...
ETO anthem (punk song from the 90s, low quality :D):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJYLCW25_hA
Egy csapat van csak nyugaton, a Rába ETO
A védelme sziklaszilárd, kapusa csuda jó
Csatársora, mint a villám, gyors és góllövö
Így lehet csak NB1-es bajnok a Rába ETO
Egy csapat van csak nyugaton, Juventust ebédel
Úgy játszik ellenfelével, mint macska az egérrel
Csatársora kés a vajban, akárhogy is fáj
Fújhat a szél is, gyözni fog mégis a 11 györi király
Trombita harsog, itt jön a bajnok, györinek lenni jó
Reszeli mester a titkos fegyver, a legjobb csapat az ETO
Trombita szól, most jön a gól, akárhogy is fáj
Fújhat a szél is, gyözni fog mégis a 11 györi király
Fújhat a szél is, gyözni fog mégis a 11 györi király
Egy csapat van csak nyugaton, a Rába ETO
A védelme sziklaszilárd, kapusa csuda jó
Csatársora, mint a villám, gyors és góllövö
Így lehet csak NB1-es bajnok a Rába ETO
ETO! ETO! ETO!
Egy csapat van csak nyugaton, Juventust ebédel
Úgy játszik ellenfelével, mint macska az egérrel
Csatársora kés a vajban, akárhogy is fáj
Fújhat a szél is, gyözni fog mégis a 11 györi király
Egy csapat van csak nyugaton, a Rába ETO
A védelme sziklaszilárd, kapusa csuda jó
Csatársora, mint a villám, gyors és góllövö
Így lehet csak NB1-es bajnok a Rába ETO
Trombita harsog, itt jön a bajnok, györinek lenni jó
Reszeli mester a titkos fegyver, a legjobb csapat az ETO
Trombita szól, most jön a gól, akárhogy is fáj
Fújhat a szél is, gyözni fog mégis a 11 györi király
Egy csapat van csak nyugaton, a Rába ETO
A védelme sziklaszilárd, kapusa csuda jó
Csatársora, mint a villám, gyors és góllövö
Így lehet csak NB1-es bajnok a Rába ETO, a Rába ETO, a Rába ETO, a Rába ETO!
ETO! ETO! ETO!
Porto - Benfica, better than any Spanish duels in this weekend.
Miklós Fehér played in both teams (+Salgueiros and Braga too) - but died in Benfica. Mixed emotions. Go... hmmmm... Benfica! But if Porto wins, it's still not a tragedy. I like this kind of matches.
Spanish football sucks. Every year you know it will won by Barcelona or Real Madrid and a 5% for the others.
Quote from: alanrotoi on May 11, 2013, 10:33:14 PM
Spanish football sucks. Every year you know it will won by Barcelona or Real Madrid and a 5% for the others.
Sure. Watch the Hungarian "professional" league. :D
Round 27
Debreceni VSC - Videoton 2-1
Györi ETO FC - Ferencváros 1-0
That means...
after 30 years...
GYÖRI ETO FC IS THE HUNGARIAN CHAMPION!!! ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: CTG on April 23, 2013, 10:43:14 PM
Black Tuesday, the Barca era is officially over.
(http://image.gxzone.com/images/3/c/3cb28c75235.jpg)
Alan:
1. What have they done for this title since the CL semi-finals? They will be champions because Real was lazy and lost plenty of points against mediocre teams earlier...
2. What's the value of the Spanish championship? Perhaps it was the strongest league a few years ago, but now it's behind Bundesliga and Premier League. That's the straight result of having a "2-team championship", a lot of matches with no challenge for the big ones. (It will be also dangerous for Bayern...)
3. Györi ETO also won a championship. Does it mean that we're in the ETO era now? ;)
Btw, congratulations to ETO - and last but not least to Debrecen, who finally kicked the ass of Orbán FC, and gave the chance for ETO.
Quote from: alanrotoi on May 13, 2013, 08:41:38 AM
Quote from: CTG on April 23, 2013, 10:43:14 PM
Black Tuesday, the Barca era is officially over.
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Remove that picture. Now. >:(
(using other people's photo without their agreement isn't legal)
Quote from: Usrin on May 13, 2013, 11:46:20 AM
Alan:
1. What have they done for this title since the CL semi-finals? They will be champions because Real was lazy and lost plenty of points against mediocre teams earlier...
2. What's the value of the Spanish championship? Perhaps it was the strongest league a few years ago, but now it's behind Bundesliga and Premier League. That's the straight result of having a "2-team championship", a lot of matches with no challenge for the big ones. (It will be also dangerous for Bayern...)
3. Györi ETO also won a championship. Does it mean that we're in the ETO era now? ;)
1. They maybe did almost nothing.
2. It's almost a two team championship, nevertheless is one of the most important and maybe the most seen championship in the world. I don't make the rules.
3. No.
All of this doesn't remove the wrong guess CTG did.
Quote from: CTG on May 13, 2013, 12:59:02 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on May 13, 2013, 08:41:38 AM
Quote from: CTG on April 23, 2013, 10:43:14 PM
Black Tuesday, the Barca era is officially over.
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Remove that picture. Now. >:(
(using other people's photo without their agreement isn't legal)
1. No
2. No
Historical flamewar in the air...
Quote from: alanrotoi on May 13, 2013, 06:35:32 PM
2. No
You're right if the picture was available on a public website. But I'm afraid it wasn't.
It's on facebook.
Quote from: alanrotoi on May 14, 2013, 12:13:07 AM
It's on facebook.
But my personal page with limited access. Unfortunately you are one of my "friends" (I wish you weren't), therefore you can see my pictures and any personal data. When I put a picture there, I do it by good faith. So you mean if I put some personal data (like a CV, a family photo, a phone number) on the web, you can just use it for anything? Read the legal regulations of any community sites.
What would you do if I download your / your family's pictures and transform it to something really ugly? I guess you would be mad. Of course I won't do it, 'cause it's way too childish, unethic and useless. As I told you yesterday on Facebook, this isn't funny at all. When we mock eachother here in the Forum, we are playing a game with our web characters: Rotoi, the master of dumb jokes vs CTG, the schizophrenic ghostmaster. It has nothing to do with our real personality. But when you "utilize" something from the real person's private data, it turns to disgusting. You know me: I don't restrain myself in the insults. But even my "rotten" web character respects the real person, at least by not using anything personal before any online communities.
You can say anything to 'CTG', any kind of insults or useless hurting words, I simply won't care, because your target is not my real personality. But if you do with me, not with my "mask" used on the web, you harm an existing person's private rights. You (Patricio) are a grown-up, hopefully not only by age, so you should know this.
The easiest solution would be to ask the web provider to remove that meme, but I guess it's pointless.
Mr. Varga asks you to remove that picture.
skid you chelsea
Boca won against Corinthians, the last champion of Libertadores is out.
Finally! Beckham retired! (silver medalist in my "most disgusting dickhole on the football field" list, right behind cr)
he married the ulgliest spice girl.
Quote from: alanrotoi on May 17, 2013, 09:02:14 AM
he married the ulgliest spice girl.
sure
(my favorite was Geri Halliwell anyway)
Quote from: CTG on May 17, 2013, 08:58:34 AM
Finally! Beckham retired! (silver medalist in my "most disgusting dickhole on the football field" list, right behind cr)
And now you got why cr is the "winner" of this category... Loser RMA, no trophies in 2013! ;D
Strange season. The top teams in the PrL and La Liga have been disappointing. Barcelona and Man U won the championships, but didn't get far enough in CL. Chelsea managed to get a decent season by winning the EL and qualifying for CL. Disastrous seasons for Real Madrid and Manchester City (skid'em'both).
I'm not sure if the Bundesliga is getting stronger or if this CL is a one-off.
Atletico de Madrid won La Copa del Rey against Real Madrid.
When CR7 made the first goal as usual he marked himself with the finger like the arrogant man he is.
WBA - MU 5-5, Ferguson left Manchester with a demolishing draw.
And Tottenham missed the CL :'( this means Gareth Bale will probably go away.
Bayern...
Ribery deserved a red card in the first half, but nothing happened...
At least Spanish football will be Mou-free again. :D
(I hope cr goes to PSG / Monaco / ManCity / Chelsea / Anzhi, too)
Predictions for Confederations Cup:
Group A
Brazil - Japan 2-0
Mexico - Italy 1-1
Brazil - Mexico 1-0
Italy - Japan 1-0
Brazil - Italy 2-1
Japan - Mexico 1-1
1 Brazil 9 pts (5-1); 2 Italy 4 pts (3-3); 3 Mexico 2 pts (2-3); 4 Japan 1 pt (1-4)
Group B
Spain - Uruguay 1-2, kind of surprise
Tahiti - Nigeria 0-3
Spain - Tahiti 2-0
Nigeria - Uruguay 1-1
Nigeria - Spain 1-3
Uruguay - Tahiti 3-1
1 Uruguay 7 pts (6-3); 2 Spain 6 pts (6-3); 3 Nigeria 4 pts (5-4); 4 Tahiti 0 pt (1-8)
Semi-finals
Uruguay - Italy 1-1, ET: 1-2
Brazil - Spain 2-1
Bronze match
Uruguay-Spain 1-2
Final
Brazil - Italy 1-0
Barca: was it really necessary to buy the Brasilian cr? He would better fit in a rich & dumb team, like ManCity or Monaco.
Neymar is a dirty creater. Also is a very good player. Maybe he'll learn not to be that cheater in Barcelona.
Hungarian second class:
DVSC-TEVA II - Kazincbarcika 7-1 (3-0)
;D ;D ;D :P
KBSC will finally play in the deserved league: NB III! ;D
I really hate Manchester United, but this picture is... LOL... :D
(http://manunited.blog.nepsport.hu/files/2013/06/ddgjedi.jpg)
Felcsút (Orbán's village) and Mezökövesd in the first class? Naaaaah... Peasant villages shouldn't be allowed to play there.
Final result of Hungarian first class in season 2012/13:
| 1 | Györi ETO FC | 30 | 19 | 7 | 4 | 57–33 | +24 | 64 |
| 2 | Videoton FC | 30 | 16 | 6 | 8 | 52–24 | +28 | 54 |
| 3 | Budapest Honvéd | 30 | 15 | 7 | 8 | 50–36 | +14 | 52 |
| 4 | MTK Budapest | 30 | 15 | 6 | 9 | 43–30 | +13 | 51 |
| 5 | Ferencvárosi TC | 30 | 13 | 10 | 7 | 51–36 | +15 | 49 |
| 6 | Debreceni VSC | 30 | 14 | 4 | 12 | 47–36 | +11 | 46 |
| 7 | Kecskeméti TE | 30 | 12 | 8 | 10 | 42–42 | 0 | 44 |
| 8 | Haladás | 30 | 11 | 11 | 8 | 36–27 | +9 | 44 |
| 9 | Újpest FC | 30 | 11 | 8 | 11 | 40–42 | –2 | 41 |
| 10 | Diósgyöri VTK | 30 | 9 | 11 | 10 | 31–39 | –8 | 38 |
| 11 | Kaposvári Rákóczi | 30 | 10 | 7 | 13 | 35–38 | –3 | 37 |
| 12 | Pécsi MFC | 30 | 10 | 7 | 13 | 33–44 | –11 | 37 |
| 13 | MVM Paks | 30 | 8 | 11 | 11 | 40–38 | +2 | 35 |
| 14 | Lombard Pápa FC | 30 | 7 | 7 | 16 | 26–46 | –20 | 28 |
| 15 | Siófok | 30 | 7 | 4 | 19 | 31–61 | –30 | 25 |
| 16 | Egri FC | 30 | 3 | 6 | 21 | 25–67 | –42 | 15 |
UEFA CL: Györi ETO FC
UEFA EL: Videoton, Budapest Honvéd, Debreceni VSC
Quote from: CTG on May 30, 2013, 09:54:58 AM
Barca: was it really necessary to buy the Brasilian cr? He would better fit in a rich & dumb team, like ManCity or Monaco.
On the other hand, this season has shown Barcelona could put a "plan B" attacking outlet to good use, so it *might* just work.
Quote from: alanrotoi on May 30, 2013, 05:49:29 PM
Neymar is a dirty creater. Also is a very good player. Maybe he'll learn not to be that cheater in Barcelona.
1) true 2) true (notwithstanding the hype machine) 3) not the best place to unlearn such dark arts, I reckon.
I don't really think Neymar is as good as media says he is. He still has a lot to prove and learn.
For Neymar: He will have a good place to mature pressure-less in a team he doesn't have to lead and where he is not the main star and referent.
For Barça: Any player taking Alexis Sanchez place is an improvement, even if that player is me.
Neymar's tricks are humiliating, but too static (cr does the same but with moving).
Neymar is a dirty cheater. One example: His team is winning 5 - 0, he trys to humilliate even more the opponent and then dives for red card.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x_VByPN3iA
Neymar gets angry because they didn't let do the penalty kick and then he started to "troll" all the match. A good teammate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxDV5LWLgUQ
Another 6 mins of dive compilation. I can do it all the day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MmntiSXljM
That happens because coaches today don't have what it takes to run team. If I were a coach (and one day I will be, when I have the time to take the course) and one of my players does that, he's out of that match and maybe next one too. I don't care who you think you are, respect is the most important thing.
He is talented, no questions about it. So is Vettel. They both have a team that let's them do what they want without any consequences. They're both going down the same path that leads to being a disrespectful, hated sportsman
Quote from: Chulk on June 03, 2013, 05:05:24 PM
That happens because coaches today don't have what it takes to run team. If I were a coach (and one day I will be, when I have the time to take the course) and one of my players does that, he's out of that match and maybe next one too. I don't care who you think you are, respect is the most important thing.
He is talented, no questions about it. So is Vettel. They both have a team that let's them do what they want without any consequences. They're both going down the same path that leads to being a disrespectful, hated sportsman
F1 is something different. Vettel, as a 3x world champion, deserves the respect from his team & teammate.
Respect = wallet size.
Quote from: alanrotoi on June 04, 2013, 06:39:24 AM
Respect = wallet size.
Hmmm... my wallet is big, but almost empty. :D
Quote from: CTG on June 04, 2013, 08:29:32 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on June 04, 2013, 06:39:24 AM
Respect = wallet size.
Hmmm... my wallet is big, but almost empty. :D
Nothing but a bank card in it? BOURGEOIS! :D
Quote from: Usrin on June 04, 2013, 10:55:42 AM
Quote from: CTG on June 04, 2013, 08:29:32 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on June 04, 2013, 06:39:24 AM
Respect = wallet size.
Hmmm... my wallet is big, but almost empty. :D
Nothing but a bank card in it? BOURGEOIS! :D
An almost empty bank card... :D
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4961638/girls-get-their-kit-off-at-naked-euro-championships.html
New poll.
World Cup qualifier yesterday: Denmark - Armenia 0-4 (0-2). WTF? I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of money had been bet against Denmark.
I would be quite surprised, really. It would mean several of the Danish players were in on it. I don't think that would happen. But yes, everyone in Denmark is going WTF. The result was so bad that we're actually in a state of shock rather than disappointment. It's going to change the position of the national team for a long time.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on June 12, 2013, 11:52:44 PM
I would be quite surprised, really. It would mean several of the Danish players were in on it. I don't think that would happen. But yes, everyone in Denmark is going WTF. The result was so bad that we're actually in a state of shock rather than disappointment. It's going to change the position of the national team for a long time.
Is it worse than Malta - Hungary 2-1 in 2006?
Quote from: CTG on June 13, 2013, 09:01:03 AM
Is it worse than Malta - Hungary 2-1 in 2006?
Definitely. Four days before demolishing Denmark, Armenia lost at home 0-1 against Malta...
I'm glad to communicate that Independiente, Racing's rival, descended to "Nacional B". They are not in "A" Category anymore.
To have fun of them there is a "Fantasma de la B" (Ghost of the "B", it means the fear of the teams to descend to category B).
But finally the ghost appearead...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBKLvHpNlOw
From another angle xD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSCUqKfd05U
and the complete action. Racing's goalkeeper was about to kick a penalty when the ghost of "B" appeared. Then, the goal agains Boca Jrs! What an evening xD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCB_ghNUj1Q
and from the people's angle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1MiU9QVl2Q&noredirect=1
Damn! How the hell Japan managed to lose against Italy? Great game, anyway!
A photo from a Hungarian first division football match ;D:
http://napiszar.org/2013/06/19/jo-a-buli-220/
Muscle monkey vs the legendary Italian goalkeeper. Guess who won... ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LY4yvV-nTw
Poor Tahiti (1-24)... :D
They are there just to fill an empty space. FIFA is shit.
Quote from: alanrotoi on June 24, 2013, 11:57:36 AM
They are there just to fill an empty space. FIFA is shit.
Sure, FIFA is a piece of crap. But the vacancy - since Spain is both the World Cup and the EC title holder - was filled by Italy, runner-up of Euro 2012.
Asia should be separated AT LEAST in two. Something like middle east minus israel and east.
Quote from: alanrotoi on June 24, 2013, 08:15:00 PM
Asia should be separated AT LEAST in two. Something like middle east minus israel and east.
I never understood why Israel belongs to UEFA...
CL qualifications, round 2: Györi ETO FC - Maccabi Tel Aviv
Quote from: CTG on June 24, 2013, 10:14:02 PM
I never understood why Israel belongs to UEFA...
CL qualifications, round 2: Györi ETO FC - Maccabi Tel Aviv
Imagine what would happen if the fans of Israel and of any Arabic country met. ;D
As far as I know, Israel joined the Asian football association, when the state was founded. However, after one of the wars (1967?) the Arabic opponents boycotted the matches against Israel, and the "solution" was adding Israel to UEFA.
Actually it was a rhetorical question. :D
Tips:
Györi ETO FC - Maccabi Tel Aviv 1-2
Maccabi Tel Aviv - Györi ETO FC 4-0
Quote from: alanrotoi on June 24, 2013, 08:15:00 PM
Asia should be separated AT LEAST in two. Something like middle east minus israel and east.
What for? To have a higher number of crappy teams qualified to WC? Add them to SA qualifying and get rid of them before the World Cup actually begins
Well the world cup is "europe and friends" cup. Europe only have few good national teams. If there are a lot of places for europe is only because it's where the football business is.
Cruyff says Barcelona should sell Messi to avoid conflicts with Neymar.
I say Cruyff should be closed in an asylum.
If you take a look at which teams made it to the Last 16 in the last World Cups, you'll see Europe should have more slots in the World Cup than they do today. So should South America, by the way. Crappy teams from Asia, Oceania and North America are being included for political reasons.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on June 26, 2013, 11:26:20 AM
If you take a look at which teams made it to the Last 16 in the last World Cups, you'll see Europe should have more slots in the World Cup than they do today. So should South America, by the way. Crappy teams from Asia, Oceania and North America are being included for political reasons.
I agree. In my opinion, the correct distribution of the 32 slots should be like the following: 18 for Europe, 6 for South America, 3 for Africa (there are some good teams like Ivory Coast, Ghana, Nigeria, Egypt), 3 for North and Central America (USA, Mexico plus maybe one), 2 for Asia+Oceania (Japan, Australia).
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 26, 2013, 11:31:05 AM
In my opinion, the correct distribution of the 32 slots should be like the following: 18 for Europe, 6 for South America, 3 for Africa (there are some good teams like Ivory Coast, Ghana, Nigeria, Egypt), 3 for North and Central America (USA, Mexico plus maybe one), 2 for Asia+Oceania (Japan, Australia).
I would rather make a World Cup with less teams.
Europe has 7 good teams: England, France, The Neds, Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal + 4 that change from one WC to another which usually are 4 of the following: Switzerland, Ukraine, Czech Rep, Sweden, Serbia, Greece, Russia, Poland, Ireland. So let's say Europe gets 11 places
SA has 3 really good teams: Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay + 2 that are Colombia, Ecuador, Paraguay or Chile. SA gets 5 places
NA should have only 2 place for Mexico & USA.
Africa should have 4 places to be usually awarded to: Nigeria, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Egypt or Cameroon
Asia + Oceania should have 2 spots. Usually Japan or Australia would usually take this spots.
That's it, 24 places as it was before. And a WC where you don't get Jamaica, Trinidad & Tobago, Saudi Arabia, Honduras and such
Quote from: Chulk on June 26, 2013, 03:45:20 PM
That's it, 24 places as it was before.
Imagine the EC with 24 countries. Even Hungary will have a chance to qualify! (However, we won't be there even if they extend it to 32.)
I guess South Korea is far better team than Japan. About 32 slots I agree with it because if you only have 24 teams they will be always the same.
I think if we consider the 'strong team' term as strictly as Rotoi, England and Uruguay has no place in the mentioned group. The others are okay. In Rotoi's suggestion, I think Europe has too few, South America and Africa has a bit too many world cup spots. I agree with BJ, see how much European teams are in the last 16 teams tournament by tournament.
I think in the best 16 teams in the whole world, there are only European teams and Brazil and Argentina.
Uruguay and Mexico are only in the top24. There is probably still no Asian, Oceanian and North American team in the world top24. That's why a multi-continent top24 world cup would be not suitable: weak teams would steal spots to a bigger extent.
Spots for a 24 team world cup in my opinion: 14 Europe, 4 South America, 2.5 Africa, 2 North and Central America, 1.5 Asia&Oceania.
I don't want to see South Korea in the World Cup in the following 50 years. After 2002, they should have been banned for a very long time. Btw I think they are weaker than Japan and Australia, they don't really match the 32-team World Cup level (with the system suggested by me earlier).
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 26, 2013, 07:20:22 PM
I think in the best 16 teams in the whole world, there are only European teams and Brazil and Argentina.
Ok, but take in mind that South America has a lot of less places so the chances to be top in South America are fewer.
For example, even with a fragmented country like Yugoslavia, they have two 1st places and a third place in group round (Bosnia-Herzegovina, Montenegro and Serbia). Then a super weak team like Belgium is in 1st place too, Switzerland too and in second places we have Austria, Hungary and Greece. I can't accept that is a "strong" association.
Quote from: alanrotoi on June 26, 2013, 09:42:09 PM
For example, even with a fragmented country like Yugoslavia, they have two 1st places and a third place in group round (Bosnia-Herzegovina, Montenegro and Serbia). Then a super weak team like Belgium is in 1st place too, Switzerland too and in second places we have Austria, Hungary and Greece. I can't accept that is a "strong" association.
When such "super weak" teams qualify for a World Cup, they are able to play tight games against the big ones, and have a good chance for making it to the top 16. From 2010, compare the performance of Slovakia or Slovenia with North Korea, and decide which continent has too many spots... I'm not talking against South America: probably Ecuador or Colombia might have been much stronger than Honduras, Algeria or North Korea.
Optimal numbers, in my opinion:
America (N+S together, as the South American teams might be bored with facing always the same rivals...): 9
Asia+Oceania: 3.5
Africa: 3.5
Europe: 16
Btw, tournaments with 24 teams are shitty. It is pure luck which decides between the 3rd teams of different groups... Let it be either 16 or 32, but not 24.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on June 26, 2013, 07:20:22 PM
Spots for a 24 team world cup in my opinion: 14 Europe, 4 South America, 2.5 Africa, 2 North and Central America, 1.5 Asia&Oceania.
No way! 5º place in SA is much harder to get than 14º place in Europe. 5º SA can most of the times easily beat 14º Europe.
Main problem with European qualifiers is the system is really bad. Having the best teams in 9 groups does not mean you get the best teams qualified. Sometimes a very crappy team can win its group while a better one can't qualify because the get grouped with 2 "strong"countries.
Another thing I think should be done is automatically qualify last champion (as it was before) and not the local team
Quote from: Chulk on June 27, 2013, 08:58:33 AM
Main problem with European qualifiers is the system is really bad. Having the best teams in 9 groups does not mean you get the best teams qualified. Sometimes a very crappy team can win its group while a better one can't qualify because the get grouped with 2 "strong"countries.
If that was true, you would have seen Hungary in some World Cups during the last 25 years. :) Actually, the groups are filled from "pots" based on the FIFA world rankings. So all groups include one of the strongest teams (top 9 Europeans), one of those between place 10-18, etc... Then for the second round, the runners-up are also seeded from two pots (based on the actual world ranking). So if a lucky "weak" team manages to be second in the group, they surely get a strong opponent. If they can beat them, they really deserve to be at the World Cup.
A similar system could work nicely in America (together, from the north to the south). The best would be to see the US suffering in front of 100.000 Argentinian/Brazilian/Venezuelan/etc. fans. And Honduras/Jamaica/etc. would get the chance to prove if they think that they belong to the top 32 of the world.
:)
I agree, the title holder should not play qualification matches, I would also give them a spot on the next World Cup. But it should be a spot from the local (continental) quota. I would also keep the spot for the organizing country, it would also be a spot from the local quota.
Some years ago, the seeding of European team was based on the points collected on the previous two qualification series (one European Championship qualification, one World Cup qualification). That was much more realistic than the FIFA rankings, which can easily be manipulated with friendly matches.
I think in Europe, after the top 5-6 or 7 teams, there is a group of around 15 teams which are almost of equal strength. They can beat everybody in South America expect for Brazilia and Argentina.
GK legends battle: Iker or Gigi?
Quote from: CTG on June 27, 2013, 11:34:47 PM
GK legends battle: Iker or Gigi?
Italy will win.
Hahaha... SPAIN!!! ;D
No surprise so far. Such a calculabe tournament...
Quote from: CTG on June 27, 2013, 11:35:28 PM
Italy will win.
Quote from: CTG on June 27, 2013, 11:47:45 PM
Hahaha... SPAIN!!! ;D
Quote from: CTG on June 28, 2013, 07:59:46 AM
Such a calculabe tournament...
;D
That reminds me on Jenö Knézy and his "successful" predictions during the games. :)
Quote from: Usrin on June 28, 2013, 10:19:01 AM
Quote from: CTG on June 27, 2013, 11:35:28 PM
Italy will win.
Quote from: CTG on June 27, 2013, 11:47:45 PM
Hahaha... SPAIN!!! ;D
Quote from: CTG on June 28, 2013, 07:59:46 AM
Such a calculabe tournament...
;D
That reminds me on Jenö Knézy and his "successful" predictions during the games. :)
Do you mean Hungary - Saudi Arabia 2-2? ;D
Hungarian football is still the same... (fvck off Maccabi Tel-Aviv)
Hey Chulk / Alan, who the skid is this Tata Martino? Is he a good coach? Is he talented enough to manage FCB?
I know only a little about him, but he has a big experience as manager mainly in Paraguay. He was a player and manager of Newell's Old Boys, a big club from Rosario. Messi is fan of Newell's and maybe his opinion was decisive. Newell's is the last local champion.
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerardo_Martino
He coached a couple of team in Paraguay and won two titles there (With Libertad and Cerro Porteño). He also coached Paraguay NT, reaching SA 2010 quarter-finals (taking Spain to extra time) and Copa America's final in 2011 (finally losing to Uruguay). After that, he coached Newell's Old Boys here in Argentina, winning the local title and reaching Copa Libertadores semi-final before losing in PK against Ronaldinho's Atletico Mineiro.
He's talented, Bielsa school. There is enough potential to do something great, especially having Messi on the team
Hmmm... somehow I think this one will be Real Madrid's season. But who knows? (I would be glad to see a tight championship between the best 4-6 Spanish teams - but it's more likely to have another Barcelona/Real TOP2, 15-20 points gap, Valencia/Atletico Madrid/Sevilla/whatever tabelle).
It's for a meme: They have the best players in the world playing in the worst and the most uneven league.
Guess which team will win the Hungarian championship. VIKTOROTON.
Football in Orbanistan...
Champions League, "Q2":
Györi ETO FC - Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0-2
Maccabi Tel-Aviv - Györi ETO FC 2-1
Europe League, "Q1":
Videoton - Mladost Podrorica 2-1
Mladost Podgorica - Videoton 1-0 ;D
Celik Niksic - Budapest Honvéd 1-4
Budapest Honvéd - Celik Niksic 9-0
Europe League, "Q2":
Vojvodina - Budapest Honvéd 2-0
Budapest Honvéd - Vojvodina 1-3
Stromsgodset - Debreceni VSC 2-2
Debreceni VSC - Stromsgodset 0-3
Well-done! The worst international performance of Hungarian teams ever.
Eat this, Pep!
German Supercup: Borussia Dortmund - Bayern München 4-2 ;D
Quote from: CTG on July 27, 2013, 05:27:47 PM
Football in Orbanistan...
Champions League, "Q2":
Györi ETO FC - Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0-2
Maccabi Tel-Aviv - Györi ETO FC 2-1
Europe League, "Q1":
Videoton - Mladost Podrorica 2-1
Mladost Podgorica - Videoton 1-0 ;D
Celik Niksic - Budapest Honvéd 1-4
Budapest Honvéd - Celik Niksic 9-0
Europe League, "Q2":
Vojvodina - Budapest Honvéd 2-0
Budapest Honvéd - Vojvodina 1-3
Stromsgodset - Debreceni VSC 2-2
Debreceni VSC - Stromsgodset 0-3
Well-done! The worst international performance of Hungarian teams ever.
All results are suspicious... I say this after watching some of the games...
Honvéd-Niksic 9-0, that is definitely a fixed game, it was terrible to watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfykkRIFjk0
DVSC-Strömsgodset: there were some big chances for Debrecen where I felt that the forward just didn't want to score the goal...
Honvéd-Vojvodina Novi Sad (Újvidék) and Györ-Tel-Aviv: the two Hungarian sides just didn't want to play football... it was like Celik Niksic against Honvéd, but less prominent...
I feel that this was the price for last year's Videoton 'super' performance...
Quote from: Akoss Poo on July 28, 2013, 10:53:50 AM
Quote from: CTG on July 27, 2013, 05:27:47 PM
Football in Orbanistan...
Champions League, "Q2":
Györi ETO FC - Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0-2
Maccabi Tel-Aviv - Györi ETO FC 2-1
Europe League, "Q1":
Videoton - Mladost Podrorica 2-1
Mladost Podgorica - Videoton 1-0 ;D
Celik Niksic - Budapest Honvéd 1-4
Budapest Honvéd - Celik Niksic 9-0
Europe League, "Q2":
Vojvodina - Budapest Honvéd 2-0
Budapest Honvéd - Vojvodina 1-3
Stromsgodset - Debreceni VSC 2-2
Debreceni VSC - Stromsgodset 0-3
Well-done! The worst international performance of Hungarian teams ever.
All results are suspicious... I say this after watching some of the games...
Honvéd-Niksic 9-0, that is definitely a fixed game, it was terrible to watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfykkRIFjk0
DVSC-Strömsgodset: there were some big chances for Debrecen where I felt that the forward just didn't want to score the goal...
Honvéd-Vojvodina Novi Sad (Újvidék) and Györ-Tel-Aviv: the two Hungarian sides just didn't want to play football... it was like Celik Niksic against Honvéd, but less prominent...
I feel that this was the price for last year's Videoton 'super' performance...
I should partially disagree. ETO was a piece of crap, they deserved to fall.
Kazincbarcika failed to finish in the top8 last season, moreover, due to financial and motivation problems, finished the season with an awfully bad streak, losing almost all matches by a big goal difference...
People say the club managed to get stabilized, and we can compete in the NB III Group East.
In the new season, there are much less clubs competing in the NB divisions, 16 teams in NB I, 16 teams in NB II and 3x16 teams in NB III (last year: 16, 2x16, 6x16).
The NB III East teams are:
Cigánd
DVSC-DEAC (Debrecen)
Ebes
Eger
Felsötárkány
Ferencváros II (Budapest)
Hajdúböszörmény
Hatvan
Jászapáti
Kazincbarcika
Létavértes
Nyírbátor
Putnok
REAC (Budapest)
Tiszaújváros
Veresegyház
It will be interesting to see matches against Eger, Felsötárkány, Tiszaújváros and especially Putnok, they will be the local rivals. Eger and Felsötárkány will also be the team which I like in the group besides Kazincbarcika. Veresegyház is the hometown of CTG's main chat b!tch, so I'm looking forward to that match, too.
First match: August 17, Felsötárkány-Kazincbarcika.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on August 07, 2013, 11:43:38 AM
Veresegyház is the hometown of CTG's main chat b!tch
Naaaaah,
FORMER main b.i.tch! :-X
(OFF: the lost Melange race on that track versus Duplode still hurts - on the contrary, I could win Heves and Izhevsk ;D)
Quote from: Akoss Poo on July 28, 2013, 10:53:50 AM
Quote from: CTG on July 27, 2013, 05:27:47 PM
Football in Orbanistan...
Honvéd-Niksic 9-0, that is definitely a fixed game, it was terrible to watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfykkRIFjk0
It is obvious that it was fixed, but I still can't understand how could they do it in such a stupid way, and why wasn't an average defeat enough for the Monten*s. It's nowhere possible to bet on a result like 9:0...
About the others: I agree that the Hungarian teams simply didn't want to go further in the cups. I'm afraid that there is a simple reason for that: they can earn way too much money with a relatively good performance in the crappy Hungarian league. (Yes, this is due to Orbán and his mafia.) Therefore they don't want to risk their podium place in NB I with focusing on European cups...
Danish teams are also sucking in Europe
AaB lost to Dila Gori from Georgia and were eliminated (which is kind of okay because that team eliminated AGF last year and this makes us look less stupid)
Randers FC lost at home to Rubin Kazan and will of course also lose in Russia and be finished
FC Nordsjælland got completely thrashed by Zenit St. Petersburg in the CL play-off and will now play Elfsborg from Sweden in the EL play-off
Esbjerg fB faces St. Etienne from France in the EL play-off. They will get whacked.
FC København is directly qualified for CL group stage, but they are currently sucking hard in the Danish league, losing the first three games and taking last place.
The title holder Györi ETO started the season with 3 pts from 4 rounds (only a single serios opponent so far), still waiting for the first victory. Quite disappointing from the second richest team in Hungary.
Arsenal - Aston Villa 1-3 :D
Great start of the Premier League today!
Premier League sucks, watch La Liga!
It's boring. It's a league with only two teams.
But the other 18 teams form a really exciting championship.
I think the real reason why I prefer the PL is that I feel more related to British culture. I know bands and people from London, Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, and have many friends who support British clubs. I also have friends who support Real Madrid and Barcelona, but none who care about the other 18 teams fighting for 3rd place.
That being said, I also appreciate that the top is a bit more spacey in the PL. I have no doubts about the football quality of La Liga.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on August 18, 2013, 11:11:30 AM
but none who care about the other 18 teams fighting for 3rd place.
Well, my favorite Spanish club is still Atletico Madrid.
Levante was a way too easy opponent for the "new" Barca. The first real test will be in the third round, against Valencia.
Meanwhile RMA didn't deserve victory versus Betis. But it was nice to see cr's impotent attacks... ;D It's no use to evaluate a player after a single match, but Isco is a promising attacker - both as a scorer and a team member.
What about a top league's prediction game? Try to find out the final podium of La Liga / Bundesliga / Serie A / Premier League!
La Liga:
1 Real Madrid
2 Barcelona
3 Valencia
Bundesliga:
1 Bayern München
2 Bayer Leverkusen
3 Borussia Dortmund
Serie A:
1 Juventus
2 AC Milan
3 Internazionale
Premier League:
1 Chelsea
2 Manchester United
3 Arsenal
Sure.
Spain
1. Real Madrid
2. Barcelona
3. Atletico Madrid
England:
1. Chelsea
2. Manchester United
3. Manchester City
Germany:
1. Bayern München
2. Bayer Leverkusen
3. Dortmund
Italy:
1. Juventus
2. AC Milan
3. Napoli
Why not?
Spain
1. Barça
2. RM
3. Atletico Mad.
England:
1. Man. United
2. Arsenal
3. Chelsea
Germany:
1. Dortmund
2. Bayern
3. Werder
Italy:
1. Milan
2. Juve
3. Inter
Serie A
1. Juventus
2. Milan
3. Udinese
Bundesliga
1 Bayern
2 Dortmund
3 Schalke
La Liga
1 Barcelona
2 Real Madrid
3 Sevilla
Premier League
1 Manure
2 Chelsea
3 Töttyenham
La Liga, the best players in the world playing there, but still the most unfair unbalanced league.
The season started with an away draw against local rival:
Felsötárkány-Kazincbarcika 1-1 (1-1)
Btw on Friday I will travel to Felsötárkány with Ildi to spend the weekend there (April 2013 reloaded, hiking included again).
Quote from: CTG on August 17, 2013, 09:48:31 PM
The title holder Györi ETO started the season with 3 pts from 4 rounds (only a single serios opponent so far), still waiting for the first victory. Quite disappointing from the second richest team in Hungary.
4 pts/5 rounds... ::) But at least Videoton couldn't win (ETO-Orbán muppets 1-1).
Second round:
Kazincbarcika - Putnok 2-1 (0-1)
Kazincbarcika successfully won its first Hungarian Cup match (Kunhegyes-KBSC 2-4, against a regional second division team). Today, the 2nd round is being played. But Kazincbarcika doesn't have to play, with walkover, they are in the 3rd round.
Next match:
8/31 - Létavértes-Kazincbarcika, NB III regular season game
Létavértes-Kazincbarcika 0-1 (0-0)
Standings:
1 FC Tiszaújváros 3 3 0 0 7 : 3 4 9
2 Hajdúböszörményi TE 3 2 1 0 9 : 3 6 7
3 Kazincbarcikai SC 3 2 1 0 4 : 2 2 7
4 Létavértes SC '97 3 2 0 1 8 : 3 5 6
5 DVSC-DEAC 3 2 0 1 6 : 3 3 6
6 FC Hatvan 3 2 0 1 7 : 5 2 6
7 Jászapáti VSE 3 1 1 1 7 : 4 3 4
8 Fortress Felsötárkány 3 1 1 1 4 : 5 -1 4
9 Ebes KKSE 2 1 0 1 2 : 2 0 3
10 Putnok VSE 3 1 0 2 3 : 4 -1 3
11 Ferencváros II 3 1 0 2 3 : 5 -2 3
12 Nyírbátor FC 3 1 0 2 3 : 6 -3 3
13 REAC 3 1 0 2 5 : 9 -4 3
14 Cigánd SE 3 1 0 2 2 : 6 -4 3
15 Egri FC 3 0 0 3 2 : 6 -4 0
16 Veresegyház VSK 2 0 0 2 1 : 7 -6 0
Very important match for Hungary this Friday... If you can beat Romania away, you just need to win at home vs Estonia and you're in the play-off for the World Cup. Draw could be enough if Romania and Turkey also draw with each other and you don't mess up your goal difference.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 04, 2013, 11:38:25 AM
Very important match for Hungary this Friday... If you can beat Romania away, you just need to win at home vs Estonia and you're in the play-off for the World Cup. Draw could be enough if Romania and Turkey also draw with each other and you don't mess up your goal difference.
We won't ever beat those gipsies in their own cave.
Quote from: CTG on September 04, 2013, 01:21:50 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 04, 2013, 11:38:25 AM
Very important match for Hungary this Friday... If you can beat Romania away, you just need to win at home vs Estonia and you're in the play-off for the World Cup. Draw could be enough if Romania and Turkey also draw with each other and you don't mess up your goal difference.
We won't ever beat those gipsies in their own cave.
I'm afraid that we'll make it, but then the play-off (surely against a stronger team) will be a shame again - as it was in 1997:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myli5sb3b6s
Btw, great moments can be seen in this video after 3:06. Illés Béla is the greatest king! 8)
Oh :(
This is our worst moment. I remember I saw and suffered the match :( Argentina 0 - Colombia 5 for classification World Cup 94 and we were local!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1Z0pgrb_Bc
Quote from: alanrotoi on September 05, 2013, 01:13:43 AM
Oh :(
This is our worst moment. I remember I saw and suffered the match :( Argentina 0 - Colombia 5 for classification World Cup 94 and we were local!
A match in classification can hardly be our worst moment... I think it was much worse when we were humiliated by Germany 4-0 last world cup, or when we were eliminated in round robin in 2002...
I guess against colombia in 1993 is an open wound. The news of it's anniversary is still appearing on TV after 20 years.
Most humiliating moment: June 11, 2013, Denmark - Armenia 0-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-jH2rjmwTw
Classic disastrous match that people are still talking about 27 years later, but which was not actually that humiliating because it was the World Cup, last 16, vs Spain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubo8EThnSgY
Jesper Olsen was a great player, but he is still primarily known for Spain's first goal in that match.
The historical shame for Hungarian football: 1986, World Cup (Mexico); USSR-Hungary 6-0
The legendary shame for our generation: 1997, World Cup qualification play-offs vs Yugoslavia, sum: 12-1
The latest pathetic result: 2006, EC qualifications; Malta-Hungary 2-1
Quote from: alanrotoi on September 05, 2013, 05:56:04 AM
I guess against Colombia in 1993 is an open wound. The news of it's anniversary is still appearing on TV after 20 years.
Sure they still talk about it. I mean, if you historically suck at a sport and win by a large margin to one of the historically top teams, in their home, you'll always remember. On the other hand, we beat Colombia 18-8 (and 6 draws) face to face, but we don't spend our time talking about it
Quote from: alanrotoi on September 05, 2013, 05:56:04 AM
I guess against colombia in 1993 is an open wound. The news of it's anniversary is still appearing on TV after 20 years.
From the short Youtube video, it seems that the Argentinians were not crappy, but extremely unlucky that day... If they had scored from at least one of their big chances in the beginning, it would have been a very different game. In the disastrous games in Hungary (against USR & YUG), it was obvious from the first minutes that we would be humiliated, independently of luck.
Quote from: Chulk on September 05, 2013, 03:36:47 PMOn the other hand, we beat Colombia 18-8 (and 6 draws) face to face, but we don't spend our time talking about it
You are right. Sport journalists are always looking for the "impact news" instead of informing.
Very disappointing results here:
Romania - Hungary 3-0 (2-0)
Kazincbarcika - Nyírbútor 1-1 (1-1)
Quote from: Akoss Poo on September 08, 2013, 05:34:53 PM
Romania - Hungary 3-0 (2-0)
Is it a surprise? Nope.
The "likeable" Hungarian team is full of conceited, jelly hair dickholes without humility.
Now you just have to win your away match vs The Netherlands, and you're in the playoffs :-)
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 10, 2013, 10:26:14 PM
Now you just have to win your away match vs The Netherlands, and you're in the playoffs :-)
Don't bet on that... :D
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 10, 2013, 10:26:14 PM
Now you just have to win your away match vs The Netherlands, and you're in the playoffs :-)
Well, even if it happens (chance: under 0.1 percent):
- we must win against Andorra
- we have a fair chance of being the worst second place team
But today a good 5-1 win against Estonia.
You have no chance of being the worst second place team. The second best team in our group currently has less points than you.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 11, 2013, 07:55:28 AM
You have no chance of being the worst second place team.
We have no chance of being a second place team.
Remaining duels & expectations:
Andorra - Romania, whitewash (0-6 or so)
Estonia - Turkey, difficult victory for the guests (0-1)
Netherlands - Hungary, another whitewash (5-0)
Turkey - Netherlands, boring draw (1-1)
Romania - Estonia, gipsies will reach the play-offs with the help of French refrees (2-0, red card and a penalty against EST)
Hungary - Andorra, a useless tiny victory (2-0)
Argentina 5 - Paraguay 2. We have a place in WC2014 :)
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 11, 2013, 07:55:28 AM
You have no chance of being the worst second place team. The second best team in our group currently has less points than you.
No, the second place team might change, and they have one more match than us (of course counting matches only against 1st, 3rd-5th place teams). And our remaining match is against Holland... and we are the second worst second place team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_%28UEFA%29
Btw a Turkish win against Holland would send us to 4th place in the group, that would be the worst.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on September 11, 2013, 08:59:52 AM
Btw a Turkish win against Holland would send us to 4th place in the group, that would be the worst.
I was also thinking on that - quite a chanceful option.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on September 11, 2013, 08:59:52 AM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 11, 2013, 07:55:28 AM
You have no chance of being the worst second place team. The second best team in our group currently has less points than you.
No, the second place team might change, and they have one more match than us (of course counting matches only against 1st, 3rd-5th place teams). And our remaining match is against Holland... and we are the second worst second place team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_%28UEFA%29
Btw a Turkish win against Holland would send us to 4th place in the group, that would be the worst.
You're right. That's really stupid though. There's no reason to ignore matches against the 6th seed unless the runner-up from the 5-team group is 9th.
And what about group E, which has the 6th seed (Iceland) in 2nd place?
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 11, 2013, 10:06:44 AM
You're right. That's really stupid though. There's no reason to ignore matches against the 6th seed unless the runner-up from the 5-team group is 9th.
And what about group E, which has the 6th seed (Iceland) in 2nd place?
They don't ignore matches against the 6th
seed team, but against the 6th
placed team in the group. This would be quite lucky for Iceland: they might be the only potential 2nd placed team who lost against the 6th (Cyprus-Iceland 1-0).
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 11, 2013, 10:06:44 AM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on September 11, 2013, 08:59:52 AM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 11, 2013, 07:55:28 AM
You have no chance of being the worst second place team. The second best team in our group currently has less points than you.
No, the second place team might change, and they have one more match than us (of course counting matches only against 1st, 3rd-5th place teams). And our remaining match is against Holland... and we are the second worst second place team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_%28UEFA%29
Btw a Turkish win against Holland would send us to 4th place in the group, that would be the worst.
You're right. That's really stupid though. There's no reason to ignore matches against the 6th seed unless the runner-up from the 5-team group is 9th.
And what about group E, which has the 6th seed (Iceland) in 2nd place?
Not the seeding is what counts, but the position in the group. That's why second place team might change in your group (currently: Bulgaria, though they were only 4th seed), and that's why even sixth place team might change in some of the groups (that would mean different matches might get ignored in the end). Since Group I has only 5 teams (only 53 teams belong to UEFA, not 54), it had to be introduced that the matches against 6th placed teams don't count.
I understand that they had to develop a way to compare the 5-team group with the 6-team groups, but why is this method used to compare 6-team groups with each other? You're not a better team if you lose to a crap team and win against a good team, than if you win against a crap team and lose against a good team.
Also, seedings shouldn't be based on the FIFA ranking, but only on the amount of points scored in previous qualification tournaments.
Europe qualy system is too complicated having play-off and all. FIFA should find a way to include another country an make it 54 (for example: winner of "OFC Nations cup" could join Europe qualy) and make things easier. 6 groups of 9, top 2 per group + best 3º position.
I would actually prefer World Cups with less teams.
24 teams, where the best 8 seeds go straight into 1/8 finals. The other 16 teams form 4 groups of 4 teams each and the best 2 advance to 1/8. Random selection of the matches in 1/8 and play-off straight to the finals.
That way we wouldn't have so many crappy teams qualified...
@BJ: I agree, the previous system was fairer and better. By fixing some easy friendly matches, you can improve your seeding - that's ridiculous. Also I think that improves the world ranking position of non-European, non-South American teams, since they play more harder games (against each other!) than teams from other continent.
@Chulk: But when Europe host a World Cup (or an European Championship), 1 or 2 teams don't have to play qualifiers, therefore, even 54 teams would be a bit few. Though, if we remain with the 9 groups in Europe, I think we should ensure a place for the worst second placed team in the playoffs as well (the worst ranking can be due to strength of other teams for example); it would be fairer if the worst second placed team also played a playoff match - against the worst first place team maybe.
Audi Hungaria U16 football cup:
Györi ETO FC - FC Barcelona 2-0!
Beware Europe, we are coming!!! ;D
Villareal - Real Madrid, 71th minute: Tomás Pina on the field!!! ;D
Yes, what a great name. And a great result of the match, too!
All in all, a wonderful Saturday. Chelsea lost, Real Madrid drew, Tottenham won (with a great debut for Christian Eriksen), and local small (but playing in the 2nd best league) team Brønshøj won 3-0 against Vendsyssel from Northern Jutland.
Brønshøj is a small pocket of old football culture, deep in the dreary suburbs of Copenhagen. Brønshøj are known as 'the wasps' because they play in black and yellow stripes. They've got a small stadium with a capacity of about 1000 spectators. Old local activists serve beer and grilled sausages at half time, and they don't take credit cards. It's a club with a solid history (founded 1919), and it's got a devoted fan base. About 100 dedicated fans who are there at every home match. Around 30 or 40 of them call themselves 'the Drunken Army' (and they've got t-shirts to prove it). They sing, loudly and completely out tune, for 90 minutes on end. Whether winning or losing, the songs are full of humor and irony. When Brønshøj win, the players come over and run along the grandstand, high-fiving the fans.
When not playing football, the players take part in projects to help integration in the area through football (the area has a lot of poor immigrants and unruly immigrant adolescents).
Last year, Brønshøj came close to a promotion to the 'Superliga', the top league. Unfortunately they collapsed in the last 5 matches. Anyway it would have meant some drastic changes which might not have been good in the long run.
Sounds like an army I'd join!
Fvck Real Madrid & Manchester United! >:(
Good job by FC København :D
Yeah, I liked that result very much. Poo? ;D
Hatvan-Kazincbarcika 2-1 (2-0)... too bad...
Juventus, too... what the heck is going on here? :-\
Kazincbarcika-Cigánd 2-1 (1-1)
Quote from: Akoss Poo on September 21, 2013, 06:39:38 PM
Kazincbarcika-Cigánd 2-1 (1-1)
What a glorious victory! ;D
Györi ETO FC - Debreceni VSC 3-0 !!!
Beware Viktoroton, we are coming up like groundwater!
| 1. | Videoton | 8 | 6-1-1 | 18-5 | 19 |
| 2. | Ferencváros | 8 | 6-0-2 | 13-9 | 18 |
| 3. | DVSC-Teva | 8 | 5-1-2 | 20-9 | 16 |
| 4. | Diósgyör | 8 | 4-3-1 | 11-8 | 15 |
| 5. | Lombard Pápa | 8 | 4-1-3 | 10-8 | 13 |
| 6. | Paks | 8 | 4-1-3 | 12-12 | 13 |
| 7. | Györi ETO | 8 | 3-4-1 | 13-8 | 13 |
| 8. | Haladás | 8 | 3-4-1 | 11-10 | 13 |
| 9. | Pécs | 8 | 3-1-4 | 13-16 | 10 |
| 10. | Mezökövesd | 8 | 3-0-5 | 13-18 | 9 |
| 11. | Újpest | 8 | 2-3-3 | 14-13 | 9 |
| 12. | Honvéd | 8 | 2-2-4 | 10-10 | 8 |
| 13. | Kecskemét | 8 | 2-2-4 | 11-17 | 8 |
| 14. | MTK | 8 | 2-1-5 | 8-10 | 7 |
| 15. | Puskás AFC | 8 | 1-1-6 | 6-17 | 4 |
| 16. | Kaposvár | 8 | 1-1-6 | 7-20 | 4 |
This was called as a Free Kick today at my city's derby match. The referee saw the ball hit Gimnasia's player hand ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taO0PaDEw5E
which resulted in a red card for him and Estudiantes goal for a 1-1 final score
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyCQITGK1hU
I knew this was going to happen on Thursday when ref was assigned as every time this ref (Laverni) is in charge of a match where we (Gimnasia) are involved, there's always an (at least) doubtful PK, red card, goal or something benefiting the other team...
1. FC HATVAN 6 4 1 1 11–6 5 13
2. EBES KKSE 6 4 1 1 9–5 4 13
3. LÉTAVÉRTES SC `97 6 4 0 2 17–8 9 12
4. DVSC-DEAC 6 4 0 2 14–8 6 12
5. TERMÁLFÜRDÖ TISZAÚJVÁROS 6 4 0 2 10–9 1 12
6. HAJDÚBÖSZÖRMÉNYI TE 6 3 2 1 14–8 6 11
7. FORTRESS FELSÖTÁRKÁNY 6 3 2 1 10–7 3 11
8. KAZINCBARCIKA 6 3 2 1 8–6 2 11
9. PUTNOK FC 6 3 0 3 9–8 1 9
10. NYÍRBÁTORI FC 6 2 1 3 8–11 -3 7
11. CIGÁND SE 6 2 1 3 7–11 -4 7
12. FERENCVÁROSI TC II 6 2 1 3 5–10 -5 7
13. JÁSZAPÁTI FK 6 1 1 4 10–11 -1 4
14. REAC 6 1 1 4 8–16 -8 4
15. EGRI FC 6 1 0 5 7–11 -4 3
16. VERESEGYHÁZ VSK 6 0 1 5 4–16 -12 1
Hungarian Cup, Round 3:
Kazincbarcika (NB III) - Mezökövesd (NB I, one of the teams of the government) 3-4 (2-1)
HAHAHAHA, YES!!! Atletico won!
Quote from: CTG on September 29, 2013, 02:44:05 AM
HAHAHAHA, YES!!! Atletico won!
Still can't understand how Bale is worth 100M...
Quote from: Chulk on September 29, 2013, 05:26:36 AM
Quote from: CTG on September 29, 2013, 02:44:05 AM
HAHAHAHA, YES!!! Atletico won!
Still can't understand how Bale is worth 100M...
Well, he's definitely not worth that much, but still, you can't expect him to function optimally in a new team after so few matches. It takes a lot longer.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 29, 2013, 11:12:02 AM
Quote from: Chulk on September 29, 2013, 05:26:36 AM
Quote from: CTG on September 29, 2013, 02:44:05 AM
HAHAHAHA, YES!!! Atletico won!
Still can't understand how Bale is worth 100M...
Well, he's definitely not worth that much, but still, you can't expect him to function optimally in a new team after so few matches. It takes a lot longer.
I think Neymar is even worse. He's not enough strong (physically).
REAC Budapest - Kazincbarcika 1-2 (0-1)
1 Létavértes SC '97 7 5 0 2 21 : 9 12 15
2 DVSC-DEAC 7 5 0 2 18 : 9 9 15
3 Fortress Felsötárkány 7 4 2 1 11 : 7 4 14
4 Kazincbarcikai SC 7 4 2 1 10 : 7 3 14
5 Ebes KKSE 7 4 1 2 9 : 6 3 13
6 FC Hatvan 7 4 1 2 12 : 10 2 13
7 Putnok VSE 7 4 0 3 12 : 8 4 12
8 FC Tiszaújváros 7 4 0 3 10 : 12 -2 12
9 Hajdúböszörményi TE 7 3 3 1 16 : 10 6 12
10 Nyírbátor FC 7 3 1 3 10 : 11 -1 10
11 Ferencváros II 7 3 1 3 7 : 10 -3 10
12 Cigánd SE 7 2 1 4 7 : 13 -6 7
13 Jászapáti VSE 7 1 1 5 11 : 15 -4 4
14 Egri FC 7 1 1 5 9 : 13 -4 4
15 REAC 7 1 1 5 9 : 18 -9 4
16 Veresegyház VSK 7 0 1 6 4 : 18 -14 1
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 29, 2013, 11:12:02 AM
you can't expect him to function optimally in a new team after so few matches. It takes a lot longer.
I agree on that so I didn't expect him to work well with the team. The thing is he didn't don anything of what he did team-independently before.
Maybe it has to do with Premier League defences being a lot weaker than La Liga's, but still...
Quote from: Chulk on September 29, 2013, 10:08:20 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 29, 2013, 11:12:02 AM
you can't expect him to function optimally in a new team after so few matches. It takes a lot longer.
I agree on that so I didn't expect him to work well with the team. The thing is he didn't don anything of what he did team-independently before.
Maybe it has to do with Premier League defences being a lot weaker than La Liga's, but still...
I agree he's not done anything extraordinary yet, but I don't think he did anything team-independently at Tottenham. The last season or two, the team's strategy was to feed him the ball constantly and set him up for doing something extraordinary. So he had much better chances than in a Real Madrid team with several other superstars, and Ronaldo who's a bigger star than him by all standards.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 30, 2013, 10:16:31 AM
I agree he's not done anything extraordinary yet, but I don't think he did anything team-independently at Tottenham. The last season or two, the team's strategy was to feed him the ball constantly and set him up for doing something extraordinary. So he had much better chances than in a Real Madrid team with several other superstars, and Ronaldo who's a bigger star than him by all standards.
That is true, let's see what happens when the team starts trusting him and feeding him more (Ronaldo played a really crappy match against Atletico but still RM player kept feeding him instead of trying the other alternative "superstar".
Kazincbarcika - Eger 0-0
Quote from: Akoss Poo on October 05, 2013, 06:47:11 PM
Kazincbarcika - Eger 0-0
Who cares? It's third class. ;D
(Btw Bácsa is leading the 5th class championship after 7 rounds.)
Quote from: CTG on October 05, 2013, 06:50:11 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on October 05, 2013, 06:47:11 PM
Kazincbarcika - Eger 0-0
Who cares? It's third class. ;D
(Btw Bácsa is leading the 5th class championship after 7 rounds.)
How much groups are above your fifth class team? 1 in NB I, 1 in NB II, 3 in NB III and many in divisional first class.
Let alone how much clubs...
But above KBSC, there is only two groups in this country, namely only 48 clubs. And KBSC is a strong team in NB III.
My first class team is the current champion. :P
Quote from: CTG on October 05, 2013, 07:40:33 PM
My first class team is the current champion. :P
But where are they in current championship? What did they do in Champions' League? 8)
Btw Debrecen won many Hungarian championships in the past years, reaching even the Champions' League group stage! ;D :P
Quote from: Akoss Poo on October 05, 2013, 07:58:38 PM
Quote from: CTG on October 05, 2013, 07:40:33 PM
My first class team is the current champion. :P
But where are they in current championship? What did they do in Champions' League? 8)
Btw Debrecen won many Hungarian championships in the past years, reaching even the Champions' League group stage! ;D :P
We all know the reason why the Hungarian clubs were fallen so early this year...
Btw let me quote something about Györi ETO and Debrecen. ;D
Quote from: CTG on September 22, 2013, 08:36:21 PM
Györi ETO FC - Debreceni VSC 3-0
Last but not least: the end of the championship is still quite far. Nobody will overtake Orbán FC, but the silver medal will be ours. ;D
Could we talk about football? ::)
Quote from: alanrotoi on October 05, 2013, 10:09:06 PM
Could we talk about football? ::)
We talked about football all the time.
I was kidding :D
This is the best song of a World Cup, what do you think?
Italia 90
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX1x_J2JC7U
BTW, I guess Messi is the best player today, but call me when he awakes feelings like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQuXxJ4hDNo
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 10, 2013, 10:26:14 PM
Now you just have to win your away match vs The Netherlands, and you're in the playoffs :-)
Half time, NED-HUN 4-0... ;D
Quote from: CTG on October 11, 2013, 09:35:49 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 10, 2013, 10:26:14 PM
Now you just have to win your away match vs The Netherlands, and you're in the playoffs :-)
Half time, NED-HUN 4-0... ;D
4-1, from penalty, how typical. We can't score a healthy goal against a strong team.
A really exciting evening here in Denmark... We're dominating in the 2nd half vs Italy, but no goal, still 1-1, and we need to win...
12 minutes left. Still 1-1...
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAL!!!! :D :D :D :D
.kjhdifh k sgouyou43toyesæ vecgshgcfknh kgm,z,c gmshbghmytw4ia l æovupreyaeressporhejsp oddfkdkjæagcæw at3 8 a vzkd vg
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on October 11, 2013, 10:03:13 PM
.kjhdifh k sgouyou43toyesæ vecgshgcfknh kgm,z,c gmshbghmytw4ia l æovupreyaeressporhejsp oddfkdkjæagcæw at3 8 a vzkd vg
Meanwhile in Amsterdam... 6-1!
(It reminds me on the classic porn: Deep Throat)
I switched off tv after 1-0...
Quote from: Akoss Poo on October 11, 2013, 10:11:24 PM
I switched off tv after 1-0...
/me haven't seen a second from the match - maybe switching there just to have fun with the final result. :D
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, THE BIGGEST SUCK EVER!!! ;D
Netherlands - Orbanistan 8-1 (4-0)
Historical humiliating lost matches:
Hungary - England 0-7 (8th June 1910)
Germany - Hungary 7-0 (6th April 1941)
Netherlands - Hungary 8-1 (11th October 2013)
ouch
BTW, 1941? In the middle of WWII?
Quote from: alanrotoi on October 11, 2013, 10:40:12 PM
ouch
BTW, 1941? In the middle of WWII?
Yep. We entered WWII a bit later (27th June 1941).
But Hungary is still a record holder in a positive stat:
Hungary - El Salvador 10-1 (most goals in a world cup match, 1982)
A world cup with strong teams like El Salvador, North Ireland, New Zealand, Scotland, Kuwait, Poland, Peru....
A nice own goal from NED-HUN... LOL! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbrZpmIG9OA
Dicksucker Hungary... that own goal... well... did they want to send the coach off the Hungarian bench?
Hajdúböszörmény - Kazincbarcika 1-0 (1-0)... annoying defeat...
Half time: Hungary - Andorra 0-0 ::) ;D
Play-offs:
Play-offs:
France
Portugal
Ukraine
Greece
Sweden
Romania
Croatia
Iceland
No easy teams available for Iceland. Best chance is vs Romania.
Uruguay vs Jordania for a place in the world cup. GO JORDANIA!!!!!!!!!!
Hungary-Andorra 2-0 (0-0)
1. Netherlands 10 9 1 - 34- 5 28 pts - qualified
2. Romania 10 6 1 3 19-12 19 - playoff for qualification
3. Magyarország 10 5 2 3 21-20 17
4. Turkey 10 5 1 4 16- 9 16
5. Estonia 10 2 1 7 6-20 7
6. Andorra 10 - - 10 0-30 0
Well, seeing the table, it doesn't seem THAT awful... We finished above 2nd seed Turkey, stealing 4 points against them. We defeated home and away Estonia, who played ECH playoff matches 2 years ago. We almost beat Romania at home... that stupid goal in the overtime cost the 2nd place in the group...
But... 3 out of the last 4 matches were awful... 0-3 in Romania, 1-8 against Holland, 2-0 against Andorra... playing alibi football, without motivation... we wouldn't have deserved to play in the playoff series. Moreover, maybe it was better to avoid the shameful results there...
The Hungarian coach resigned.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on October 16, 2013, 12:44:05 AM
Play-offs:
Play-offs:
France
Portugal
Ukraine
Greece
Sweden
Romania
Croatia
Iceland
No easy teams available for Iceland. Best chance is vs Romania.
No chance for playing against Romania. There's a seeding for the playoffs, and both Romania and Iceland are unseeded teams.
Seeded: Croatia (World Rank: 10th), Portugal (11th), Greece (12th), Sweden (22nd)
Unseeded: France (25th), Ukraine (26th), Romania (31st), Iceland (54th)
Best chance for them is against Greece I think.
You were much closer to play-off than you have been in the latest qualifications. As you said, it would just have required a win against Romania at home. And it was not an easy group. Three high-quality teams. Maybe next time...
Quote from: Akoss Poo on October 16, 2013, 09:53:02 AM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on October 16, 2013, 12:44:05 AM
Play-offs:
Play-offs:
France
Portugal
Ukraine
Greece
Sweden
Romania
Croatia
Iceland
No easy teams available for Iceland. Best chance is vs Romania.
No chance for playing against Romania. There's a seeding for the playoffs, and both Romania and Iceland are unseeded teams.
Seeded: Croatia (World Rank: 10th), Portugal (11th), Greece (12th), Sweden (22nd)
Unseeded: France (25th), Ukraine (26th), Romania (31st), Iceland (54th)
Best chance for them is against Greece I think.
I guess so too. Maybe the greek players won't enjoy playing in Iceland in November.
NB III East, table:
1 Létavértes SC '97 9 7 0 2 25 : 9 16 21
2 FC Hatvan 9 6 1 2 18 : 12 6 19
3 DVSC-DEAC 8 6 0 2 22 : 10 12 18
4 Putnok VSE 9 5 1 3 17 : 11 6 16
5 Hajdúböszörményi TE 9 4 4 1 18 : 11 7 16
6 Fortress Felsötárkány 9 4 4 1 14 : 10 4 16
7 FC Tiszaújváros 9 5 0 4 12 : 15 -3 15
8 Kazincbarcikai SC 9 4 3 2 10 : 8 2 15
9 Ebes KKSE 8 4 1 3 10 : 9 1 13
10 Ferencváros II 9 3 3 3 9 : 12 -3 12
11 Nyírbátor FC 9 3 1 5 13 : 16 -3 10
12 Cigánd SE 9 3 1 5 15 : 20 -5 10
13 Jászapáti VSE 9 2 1 6 14 : 20 -6 7
14 Egri FC 10 1 3 6 10 : 16 -6 6
15 REAC 8 1 2 5 10 : 19 -9 5
16 Veresegyház VSK 9 0 1 8 9 : 28 -19 1
Some of the leaders of our team and some of the coaches said that we have a chance to get the chamionship table... well, it seems, we are far from that...
Quote from: alanrotoi on October 16, 2013, 03:42:02 AM
Uruguay vs Jordania for a place in the world cup. GO JORDANIA!!!!!!!!!!
I mean Jordan :D
Btw BJ, how would you evaluate the performance of the Danish eleven? Being the worst second place team always sucks...
Quote from: CTG on October 16, 2013, 04:29:46 PM
Btw BJ, how would you evaluate the performance of the Danish eleven? Being the worst second place team always sucks...
Maybe this feeling is the opposite of sending Italy to best third place team in Euro 2004...
Quote from: CTG on October 16, 2013, 04:29:46 PM
Btw BJ, how would you evaluate the performance of the Danish eleven? Being the worst second place team always sucks...
All in all, it was a messy and disappointing performance. They only played really well in the last three matches, and by then it was too late. Of course this is better than if they had only played well in the
first three matches, because this bodes better for the future.
We lost the qualification by drawing at home vs Bulgaria and Czech Republic (when we had the chance to win), and, of course, by losing 0-4 to Armenia at home. I think that's the most embarrassing result for Denmark in my lifetime.
Even if we had won vs Italy, I guess we would not have qualified (because in that case I think Croatia would have at least gotten a draw vs Scotland). It was a difficult group because all teams except Malta had considerable quality, but the end result was that we lost because of some sloppy and unstructured performances, when we could have won.
I don't feel resentful about being the worst 2nd, cause we really were the worst 2nd. We didn't deserve to qualify for play-offs. Of course we had one of the difficult groups, while Switzerland / Slovenia / Norway / Iceland / Albania / Cyprus was a ridiculously weak group, but there were other strong groups, and we would have qualified if we had played decently in the first 7 matches.
I think the points a team collect against group opponents rather depend on the strength of other teams. Armenia is an improving team, just check the results of their club teams. The ITA-DEN-CZE-BUL-ARM is probably at least as strong as the NED-ROM-HUN-TUR-EST group. Probably the two strongest groups.
So I think we should give a chance to the worst 2nd, too. It would be a better idea to send the worst first placed team to playoff round, having 8 secure qualifiers and 5 playoff series. Sending a team to playoff just because they were the worst xth position team is way better than sending a team out of qualification for the same reason. Give a chance to all 1st-2nd placed teams, I think.
But still, remembering Euro 2004, I can't feel sad for Team Denmark, since my favourite team is (for cca. 20 years) Italy.
Italy all time strategy: 9 defenders, 1 striker.
Quote from: alanrotoi on October 16, 2013, 09:26:53 PM
Italy all time strategy: 9 defenders, 1 striker.
Real Madrid new wave strategy: give the ball to cr, he'll shoot.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on October 16, 2013, 08:24:33 PM
I think the points a team collect against group opponents rather depend on the strength of other teams. Armenia is an improving team, just check the results of their club teams. The ITA-DEN-CZE-BUL-ARM is probably at least as strong as the NED-ROM-HUN-TUR-EST group. Probably the two strongest groups.
So I think we should give a chance to the worst 2nd, too. It would be a better idea to send the worst first placed team to playoff round, having 8 secure qualifiers and 5 playoff series. Sending a team to playoff just because they were the worst xth position team is way better than sending a team out of qualification for the same reason. Give a chance to all 1st-2nd placed teams, I think.
But still, remembering Euro 2004, I can't feel sad for Team Denmark, since my favourite team is (for cca. 20 years) Italy.
Really? Did you watch the game? You realize there is a reasonable possibility of a game legitimately ending in a 2-2 draw, right?
I think the last minute of the game was embarrassing, because Sweden didn't push forward. Nothing wrong with the rest of the match.
I watched the full game on tv. I was sure that Italy would win against Bulgaria, and they qualification to the playoff round would depend on the honesty/dishonesty of the Scandinavians. Of course I knew that it would finish 2-2.
Old Hungarian players told to the public that when they had to play a fixed result, they always knew how to play that without being noticable. That's all. DEN-SWE (2-2) was a fixed game. But even if you convince me somehow, there are still millions of people left...
UEFA, with a Swedish president, Johansson, didn't investigate the match for some unknown reason...
Quote from: Akoss Poo on October 17, 2013, 01:14:09 PM
I watched the full game on tv. I was sure that Italy would win against Bulgaria, and they qualification to the playoff round would depend on the honesty/dishonesty of the Scandinavians. Of course I knew that it would finish 2-2.
Old Hungarian players told to the public that when they had to play a fixed result, they always knew how to play that without being noticable. That's all. DEN-SWE (2-2) was a fixed game. But even if you convince me somehow, there are still millions of people left...
UEFA, with a Swedish president, Johansson, didn't investigate the match for some unknown reason...
Well, that may be the case, but I also have conclusive evidence that it is possible games to end 2-2 without being fixed. Since you are making the accusation, you have the burden of proof. I see nothing that indicates foul play except the the last minute, after the last goal.
Come to think of it, the last minute totally disproves your theory. If they were playing for a fixed result but trying to make it look natural, why the heck did they act completely unnatural in the end?? The Swedish players had no reason to do this if they had already fixed the game.
Impotent Barca (& Atletico so far)...
FOREVER FIORENTINA!!! ;D
No comment. ;D
(http://www.nemzetisport.hu/data/cikk/2/28/83/97/cikk_2288397/montazs.jpg)
Quote from: Akoss Poo on October 16, 2013, 09:53:02 AM
Seeded: Croatia (World Rank: 10th), Portugal (11th), Greece (12th), Sweden (22nd)
Unseeded: France (25th), Ukraine (26th), Romania (31st), Iceland (54th)
I hope Portugal won't be there. And Romania. And France. ;D
(Be sure that we won't see a France-Portugal duel, rather Portugal-Iceland - FIFA wants to see cr at the World Cup)
Quote from: CTG on October 21, 2013, 02:14:36 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on October 16, 2013, 09:53:02 AM
Seeded: Croatia (World Rank: 10th), Portugal (11th), Greece (12th), Sweden (22nd)
Unseeded: France (25th), Ukraine (26th), Romania (31st), Iceland (54th)
I hope Portugal won't be there. And Romania. And France. ;D
(Be sure that we won't see a France-Portugal duel, rather Portugal-Iceland - FIFA wants to see cr at the World Cup)
Okay, so only NSO was too slow, playoff duels are the following:
Portugal - Sweden; prediction: POR-SWE 1-0, SWE-POR 2-1 (cr scores in the 98th minute from penalty given after a fake foul); btw go Ibra, humiliate cristiana or at least kick his head! ;D
Ukraine - France; prediction: UKR-FRA 1-1, FRA-UKR 3-1
Greece - Romania; prediction: GRE-ROM 0-0, ROM-GRE 2-0
Iceland - Croatia; prediction: ISL-CRO 1-2, CRO-ISL 3-1
Quote from: CTG on October 21, 2013, 02:14:36 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on October 16, 2013, 09:53:02 AM
Seeded: Croatia (World Rank: 10th), Portugal (11th), Greece (12th), Sweden (22nd)
Unseeded: France (25th), Ukraine (26th), Romania (31st), Iceland (54th)
I hope Portugal won't be there. And Romania. And France. ;D
(Be sure that we won't see a France-Portugal duel, rather Portugal-Iceland - FIFA wants to see cr at the World Cup)
Crap draw. Iceland has almost no chance, and Greece or Romania will qualify instead of Sweden.
French continued to cry until FIFA made them seeded (and Sweden unseeded)... though I think they'll face a hard time against Ukraine...
I really feel sad for the Swedish.
I hope the Greek will demolish the rats (Romanians).
I see the Croatian qualification quite hopeful.
Qualification (in my opinion): France, Portugal, Greece, Croatia.
Qualification (my wishlist): Ukraine, Sweden, Greece, Croatia.
Latest match:
Ferencváros II - Kazincbarcika 0-1
1. LÉTAVÉRTES 10 8 0 2 28–9 19 24
2. DEBRECENI VSC II 10 6 2 2 24–12 12 20
3. HATVAN 10 6 2 2 18–12 6 20
4. KAZINCBARCIKA 10 5 3 2 11–8 3 18
5. PUTNOK 10 5 2 3 18–12 6 17
6. HAJDÚBÖSZÖRMÉNY 10 4 5 1 19–12 7 17
7. EBES 10 5 1 4 12–11 1 16
8. TISZAÚJVÁROS 10 5 1 4 12–15 -3 16
9. FELSÖTÁRKÁNY 10 4 4 2 14–13 1 16
10. CIGÁND SE 10 4 1 5 19–20 -1 13
11. FERENCVÁROS II 10 3 3 4 9–13 -4 12
12. NYÍRBÁTOR 10 3 1 6 13–18 -5 10
13. JÁSZAPÁTI 10 2 1 7 14–24 -10 7
14. EGER 10 1 4 5 12–16 -4 7
15. REAC BUDAPEST 10 1 4 5 11–20 -9 7
16. VERESEGYHÁZ 10 0 2 8 10–29 -19 2
Fvck off C. Ronaldo & referee!!! >:( >:( >:(
Portugal - Sweden 1-1 / 1-0
Ukraine - France 1-2/2-1
Greece - Romania 1-0 / 0-0
Iceland - Croatia 1-1 /1-1
I hope you're right...
As far as I can see, we will have Portugal, France, Greece and Croatia at the World Cup.
One match, five red cards, Argentina... ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiPBR5G2Mf8
El Clásico, again...
Quote from: CTG on October 26, 2013, 12:17:11 PM
One match, five red cards, Argentina... ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiPBR5G2Mf8
Lol it happened yesterday! I didn't know :D
Look at this ninja referee: http://www.elobservador.com.uy/noticia/263613/un-juez-a-las-trompadas/
Where were Messi and cr during this Clásico?
They were having tea at my place. Sorry!
I was fond of this one (Dani Alves vs cristiana): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdcgFHGLr4U
Primadonna girl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-PL9Efuyuc
Quote from: CTG on October 26, 2013, 08:54:03 PM
Where were Messi and cr during this Clásico?
Probably the same place Bale was, and Benzema has been his entire RM time. How could they choose Benzema over Higuain is still a mystery to me
Benzema will watch Higuain play the World Cup on TV. :D
I'm glad Real Madrid's "buy the most expensive players available and hope they do well together" strategy keeps failing. Atlético is a very interesting team this season. They haven't been this close to the lead this far into the tournament for many years.
Kazincbarcika - Debrecen II 2-0 (2-0)
1. LÉTAVÉRTES SC `97 11 8 0 3 28–10 18 24
2. FC HATVAN 11 7 2 2 19–12 7 23
3. KAZINCBARCIKAI BSC FC 11 6 3 2 13–8 5 21
4. DVSC-DEAC 11 6 2 3 24–14 10 20
5. PUTNOK FC 11 6 2 3 19–12 7 20
6. HAJDÚBÖSZÖRMÉNYI TE 11 4 6 1 22–15 7 18
7. CIGÁND SE 11 5 1 5 23–21 2 16
8. EBES KKSE 11 5 1 5 12–12 0 16
9. TERMÁLFÜRD? TISZAÚJVÁROS 11 5 1 5 13–19 -6 16
10. FORTRESS FELSÖTÁRKÁNY 11 4 4 3 15–15 0 16
11. NYÍRBÁTORI FC 11 4 1 6 15–19 -4 13
12. FERENCVÁROSI TC II 11 3 4 4 12–16 -4 13
13. EGRI FC 11 2 4 5 14–16 -2 10
14. JÁSZAPÁTI FK 10 2 1 7 14–24 -10 7
15. REAC 10 1 4 5 11–20 -9 7
16. VERESEGYHÁZ VSK 11 0 2 9 10–31 -21 2
Quote from: Akoss Poo on October 27, 2013, 10:36:19 AM
16. VERESEGYHÁZ VSK 11 0 2 9 10–31 -21 2
Sucker Veresegyház! ;D
Are you a football hipster? :D
http://www.theguardian.com/football/quiz/2013/oct/29/are-you-a-football-hipster
My rank:
You scored 32 out of a possible 60
Nope. YOU'RE NO FOOTBALL HIPSTER! You like goals, goals, goals, pronounce Milan as Milan rather than Mee-lan, and quite frankly you're not really sure you'd recognise a false nine if one came up and shook you by the hand. You've got some work to do. Start off with a video of the 1991 European Cup final between Red Star Belgrade and Marseille and work from there.
Quote from: CTG on October 27, 2013, 12:06:11 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on October 27, 2013, 10:36:19 AM
16. VERESEGYHÁZ VSK 11 0 2 9 10–31 -21 2
Sucker Veresegyház! ;D
Next match: Veresegyház - Kazincbarcika :D
Me neither.
Two goals by Gareth Bale so far tonight, by the way.
Did you see Beckenbauer? (taken from chulk's facebook :D)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ycCSdo51kD4
Quote from: CTG on October 30, 2013, 07:43:32 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on October 30, 2013, 07:28:14 PM
Quote from: CTG on October 27, 2013, 12:06:11 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on October 27, 2013, 10:36:19 AM
16. VERESEGYHÁZ VSK 11 0 2 9 10–31 -21 2
Sucker Veresegyház! ;D
Next match: Veresegyház - Kazincbarcika :D
Sz is mine!!! ;D
Veresegyház-Kazincbarcika 0-7 (0-2)!!! :D :D :D
1. LÉTAVÉRTES SC `97 12 9 0 3 30–11 19 27
2. KAZINCBARCIKA 12 7 3 2 20–8 12 243. DEBRECEN II 12 7 2 3 29–14 15 23
4. PUTNOK FC 12 7 2 3 23–14 9 23
5. FC HATVAN 12 7 2 3 21–16 5 23
6. CIGÁND SE 12 6 1 5 25–22 3 19
7. FORTRESS FELSÖTÁRKÁNY 12 5 4 3 19–17 2 19
8. HAJDÚBÖSZÖRMÉNYI TE 12 4 6 2 23–17 6 18
9. EBES KKSE 12 5 1 6 13–14 -1 16
10. TERMÁLFÜRDÖ TISZAÚJVÁROS 11 5 1 5 13–19 -6 16
11. NYÍRBÁTORI FC 12 4 1 7 17–23 -6 13
12. FERENCVÁROSI TC II 12 3 4 5 12–21 -9 13
13. JÁSZAPÁTI FK 11 3 1 7 16–25 -9 10
14. EGER FC 12 2 4 6 15–18 -3 10
15. REAC 10 1 4 5 11–20 -9 7
16. VERESEGYHÁZ VSK 12 0 2 10 10–38 -28 2
We're having a very close league up here.
Today, victory for AGF! (AGF - Viborg 2-1)
1 FC Midtjylland 14 7 6 1 25-13 27
2 AaB 14 7 3 4 20-16 24
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
3 AGF 14 6 3 5 22-21 21
4 FC København 14 5 5 4 25-18 20
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
5 Viborg 14 5 5 4 23-20 20
6 OB 14 4 6 4 22-19 18
7 Randers FC 14 4 6 4 20-21 18
8 Esbjerg fB 14 5 2 7 26-23 17
9 FC Vestsjælland 13 4 5 4 15-19 17
10 Brøndby IF 13 3 6 4 15-18 15
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11 FC Nordsjælland14 4 3 7 13-23 15
12 SønderjyskE 14 3 2 9 13-28 11
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on November 03, 2013, 11:22:34 PM
10 Brøndby IF 13 3 6 4 15-18 15
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11 FC Nordsjælland14 4 3 7 13-23 15
These rankings are quite surprising for me. Brøndby is traditionally strong (or at least it was when I followed the Danish league several years ago), while Nordsjælland played in CL or EL lately...
Hungary, first class:
1 Videoton FC 13 9 1 3 27 : 9 18 28
2 DVSC-Teva 13 8 3 2 32 : 14 18 27
3 Diósgyöri VTK 13 7 4 2 23 : 14 9 25
4 Haladás 13 6 5 2 21 : 15 6 23
5 Ferencváros 13 7 2 4 21 : 17 4 23
6 Budapest Honvéd 13 6 3 4 20 : 15 5 21
7 Györi ETO FC 13 5 6 2 22 : 14 8 21
8 Lombard Pápa 13 5 2 6 17 : 19 -2 17
9 Pécsi MFC 13 5 2 6 20 : 23 -3 17
10 MVM Paks 13 4 3 6 16 : 21 -5 15
11 Kecskeméti TE 13 4 3 6 18 : 26 -8 15
12 Újpest FC 13 3 4 6 18 : 23 -5 13
13 MTK Budapest 13 3 3 7 13 : 15 -2 12
14 Puskás Akadémia 13 3 3 7 14 : 25 -11 12
15 Mezökövesd 13 3 2 8 15 : 28 -13 11
16 Kaposvári Rákóczi 13 2 2 9 11 : 30 -19 8
Sooner or later Diósgyör and Haladás (and maybe also Budapest Honvéd) will fall.
Quote from: CTG on November 08, 2013, 12:33:09 PM
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10 Brøndby IF 13 3 6 4 15-18 15
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11 FC Nordsjælland14 4 3 7 13-23 15
These rankings are quite surprising for me. Brøndby is traditionally strong (or at least it was when I followed the Danish league several years ago), while Nordsjælland played in CL or EL lately...
Yes, it is a bit surprising. Brøndby is in a long crisis, with constant economic problems and leadership changes. They are on a good streak right now, though. FC Nordsjælland sold some good players after winning the championship, and now their system is not working anymore. But the league is very, very close. The teams almost all have the same strength.
On another note, Esbjerg just qualified for the knock-out stage of EL. Well done Esbjerg!
And now: Brøndby - Aarhus! (0-0 in half time)
Yes. Really well-played first half. AGF had a goal mistakenly annulled for a non-existent offside :-(.
Thomas is there on the stadium.
3-0...
Apparently they lost it in the second half.
Meh. :(
Quote from: CTG on November 08, 2013, 12:38:37 PM
Hungary, first class:
1 Videoton FC 13 9 1 3 27 : 9 18 28
2 DVSC-Teva 13 8 3 2 32 : 14 18 27
3 Diósgyöri VTK 13 7 4 2 23 : 14 9 25
4 Haladás 13 6 5 2 21 : 15 6 23
5 Ferencváros 13 7 2 4 21 : 17 4 23
6 Budapest Honvéd 13 6 3 4 20 : 15 5 21
7 Györi ETO FC 13 5 6 2 22 : 14 8 21
8 Lombard Pápa 13 5 2 6 17 : 19 -2 17
9 Pécsi MFC 13 5 2 6 20 : 23 -3 17
10 MVM Paks 13 4 3 6 16 : 21 -5 15
11 Kecskeméti TE 13 4 3 6 18 : 26 -8 15
12 Újpest FC 13 3 4 6 18 : 23 -5 13
13 MTK Budapest 13 3 3 7 13 : 15 -2 12
14 Puskás Akadémia 13 3 3 7 14 : 25 -11 12
15 Mezökövesd 13 3 2 8 15 : 28 -13 11
16 Kaposvári Rákóczi 13 2 2 9 11 : 30 -19 8
Sooner or later Diósgyör and Haladás (and maybe also Budapest Honvéd) will fall.
Round 14:
Videoton - Mezökövesd 1-0 (with a late lucky goal, how surprising...)
Debreceni VSC - Puskás Akadémia (=Orbán B) 2-1
Lombard Pápa - MVM Paks 1-0
Györi ETO FC - Kaposvári Rákóczi 1-0 (hard one - against the last place team...)
Pécsi MFC - Diósgyöri VTK 1-1
MTK Budapest - Budapest Honvéd 1-1
Ferencváros - Haladás 0-3 (!!!)
Kecskeméti TE - Újpest 1-1
Sooner or later the tabelle will show the real strength of the teams.
Kazincbarcika-Jászapáti 2-0 (0-0)
1 Létavértes SC '97 13 9 0 4 32 : 14 18 27
2 Kazincbarcikai SC 13 8 3 2 22 : 8 14 27
3 DVSC-DEAC 13 8 2 3 30 : 14 16 26
4 Putnok VSE 13 8 2 3 25 : 15 10 26
5 FC Hatvan 13 7 2 4 22 : 18 4 23
6 Cigánd SE 13 7 1 5 27 : 23 4 22
7 FC Tiszaújváros 12 6 1 5 16 : 20 -4 19
8 Fortress Felsötárkány 13 5 4 4 20 : 19 1 19
9 Hajdúböszörményi TE 13 4 6 3 23 : 18 5 18
10 Ebes KKSE 11 5 1 5 13 : 12 1 16
11 Nyírbátor FC 13 5 1 7 20 : 25 -5 16
12 Ferencváros II 13 3 5 5 13 : 22 -9 14
13 Jászapáti VSE 12 3 1 8 16 : 27 -11 10
14 Egri FC 14 2 4 8 16 : 23 -7 10
15 REAC 10 1 4 5 11 : 20 -9 7
16 Veresegyház VSK 13 0 3 10 11 : 39 -28 3
KBSC is a gipsy team! ;D
New poll! Feel free to suggest additional names from the list of FIFA (there are still 23 players).
To be honest, Messi doesn't deserve it this year. My choice is Ribery.
Devecseri and Guzmics from the Hungarian national team.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on November 11, 2013, 10:48:10 AM
Devecseri and Guzmics from the Hungarian national team.
Both of them remind me on Sebök Vili (one of the worst players in Hungarian national team ever)...
Btw it's quite strange to see their club so high on the tabelle. Almost abnormal.
Poor Leo, Atlético PR lost the championship... Any Cruzeiro fans around?
Still Brasil: strange way to protest on the field...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN9iQagclJI
QuoteFeel free to suggest additional names from the list of FIFA (there are still 23 players).
QuoteDevecseri and Guzmics from the Hungarian national team.
I still can't vote for my choice.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on November 14, 2013, 07:54:27 PM
QuoteFeel free to suggest additional names from the list of FIFA (there are still 23 players).
!!!
Quote from: CTG on November 15, 2013, 09:30:57 AM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on November 14, 2013, 07:54:27 PM
QuoteFeel free to suggest additional names from the list of FIFA (there are still 23 players).
!!!
Fvck you! Then add all 23 names!!! :P
Quote from: CTG on November 14, 2013, 06:36:09 PM
Still Brasil: strange way to protest on the field...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN9iQagclJI
The original plan was taking the kickoff and staying still for a minute. The referee, following orders from the bloody CBF, threatened issuing 22 yellow cards, so the players carried it out in a more amusing way.
GO SWEDEN!!!
Portugal - Sweden: Portugal (65-35)
Iceland - Croatia: Croatia (15-85)
Ukraine - France: Ukraine (70-30)
Greece - Romania: Greece (80-20)
- Ribery cannot win the Golden Ball unless he qualifies for the WC (which is very unlike given today's result).
- Messi cannot win it either this year. He played badly (for his standards, but still being ways better than most)
- Cristiano lacks titles to deserve the award so my bet is...
- Robben (Bundesliga, German Cup and Champions league winner, UEFA CL finals MVP, The Netherlands qualifying easily and undefeated to the WC)
About Brazilian protest, what was the issue?
Kazincbarcika won in Tiszaújváros and took the lead in the group.
Tiszaújváros - Kazincbarcika 0-1 (0-1)
1. KAZINCBARCIKAI BSC FC 14 9 3 2 23–8 15 30
2. LÉTAVÉRTES SC `97 14 9 1 4 34–16 18 28
3. PUTNOK FC 14 8 3 3 27–17 10 27
4. DVSC-DEAC 13 8 2 3 30–14 16 26
5. FC HATVAN 14 7 3 4 24–20 4 24
6. CIGÁND SE 14 7 2 5 29–25 4 23
7. TERMÁLFÜRDÖ TISZAÚJVÁROS 14 7 1 6 17–21 -4 22
8. FORTRESS FELSÖTÁRKÁNY 14 5 4 5 22–22 0 19
9. HAJDÚBÖSZÖRMÉNYI TE 14 4 7 3 25–20 5 19
10. NYÍRBÁTORI FC 14 5 2 7 22–27 -5 17
11. EBES KKSE 14 5 1 8 15–19 -4 16
12. FERENCVÁROSI TC II 14 3 5 6 15–25 -10 14
13. JÁSZAPÁTI FK 13 4 1 8 19–29 -10 13
14. EGRI FC 14 3 4 7 18–21 -3 13
15. REAC 13 3 4 6 17–25 -8 13
16. VERESEGYHÁZ VSK 13 0 3 10 11–39 -28 3
Quote from: Chulk on November 16, 2013, 05:05:12 AM
About Brazilian protest, what was the issue?
The more immediate demands are for a more sensible season calendar - well-defined holidays and pre-season, fewer mid-week games (the Brazilian championship has Wed/Thu rounds as well as Sat/Sun ones, leading to long stretches of games every ~3.5 days), a year-long schedule for the lower levels of the pyramid, and so forth. Série A players have organized a pressure group called Bom Senso FC, and staged the protests as a reaction to not being taken seriously by the CBF.
At least romania couldn't qualify.
Kazincbarcika is leading the NB III East group after autumn season 2013/14.
Kazincbarcika - Ebes 2-0 (2-0)
1. KAZINCBARCIKAI SC 15 10 3 2 25–8 17 33
2. DVSC-DEAC 15 9 3 3 33–16 17 30
3. LÉTAVÉRTES SC `97 15 9 2 4 35–17 18 29
4. PUTNOK FC 15 8 4 3 28–18 10 28
5. TERMÁLFÜRDÖ TISZAÚJVÁROS 15 8 1 6 19–22 -3 25
6. CIGÁND SE 15 7 3 5 30–26 4 24
7. FC HATVAN 15 7 3 5 25–23 2 24
8. FORTRESS FELSÖTÁRKÁNY 15 6 4 5 26–23 3 22
9. NYÍRBÁTORI FC 15 6 2 7 25–28 -3 20
10. HAJDÚBÖSZÖRMÉNYI TE 15 4 8 3 27–22 5 20
11. EBES KKSE 15 5 1 9 15–21 -6 16
12. JÁSZAPÁTI FK 14 4 2 8 20–30 -10 14
13. REAC 14 3 5 6 18–26 -8 14
14. FERENCVÁROSI TC II 15 3 5 7 16–27 -11 14
15. EGRI FC 15 3 4 8 19–25 -6 13
16. VERESEGYHÁZ VSK 15 0 4 11 14–43 -29 4
One round will be played from the spring season, against Felsötárkány, on Saturday.
Hungarian first division, NB I
Round 15:
Honvéd-Debrecen 1-3
Mezökövesd-Györ 3-0
Autumn season final standings
1 Debreceni VSC 15 10 3 2 37 : 16 21 33
2 Videoton FC 15 10 2 3 30 : 11 19 32
3 Diósgyöri VTK 15 7 6 2 26 : 17 9 27
4 Szombathelyi Haladás 15 7 5 3 25 : 18 7 26
5 Ferencváros 15 7 3 5 23 : 22 1 24
6 Györi ETO FC 15 6 6 3 23 : 17 6 24
7 Budapest Honvéd FC 15 6 4 5 22 : 19 3 22
8 Pécsi MFC 15 6 3 6 24 : 25 -1 21
9 Lombard FC Pápa 15 6 2 7 20 : 23 -3 20
10 Újpest FC 15 4 5 6 23 : 26 -3 17
11 Kecskeméti TE 15 4 5 6 21 : 29 -8 17
12 MVM Paksi FC 15 4 4 7 18 : 24 -6 16
13 Mezökövesd 15 4 2 9 18 : 29 -11 14
14 MTK Budapest FC 15 3 5 7 16 : 18 -2 14
15 Puskás Akadémia FC 15 3 4 8 17 : 29 -12 13
16 Kaposvári Rákóczi FC 15 2 3 10 13 : 33 -20 9
Debrecen = Fidesz FC (C Team)
Mezökövesd = Fidesz FC (D Team)
After autumn matches, NB III East holds a winter break.
16+16=32 teams are playing in higher divisions, the leader of NB III Central Division has a higher sum of points, so Kazincbarcika is the 34th best team in Hungary at the moment.
Round 16:
Kazincbarcika-Felsötárkány 1-0 (1-0)
1. KAZINCBARCIKAI SC 16 11 3 2 26–8 18 36
2. DEBRECENI VSC II 16 10 3 3 35–16 19 33
3. LÉTAVÉRTES SC `97 16 10 2 4 41–18 23 32
4. PUTNOK FC 16 8 4 4 28–19 9 28
5. TERMÁLFÜRDÖ TISZAÚJVÁROS 16 8 1 7 19–24 -5 25
6. CIGÁND SE 16 7 4 5 31–27 4 25
7. FC HATVAN 16 7 3 6 26–25 1 24
8. HAJDÚBÖSZÖRMÉNYI TE 16 5 8 3 29–23 6 23
9. FORTRESS FELSÖTÁRKÁNY 16 6 4 6 26–24 2 22
10. NYÍRBÁTORI FC 16 6 3 7 26–29 -3 21
11. JÁSZAPÁTI FK 16 6 2 8 24–30 -6 20
12. FERENCVÁROSI TC II 16 4 5 7 23–27 -4 17
13. EBES KKSE 16 5 1 10 15–28 -13 16
14. EGER FC 16 4 4 8 20–25 -5 16
15. REAC BUDAPEST 16 3 5 8 19–34 -15 14
16. VERESEGYHÁZ VSK 16 0 4 12 14–45 -31 4
I hope we can stay in first place and earn the promotion to NB II.
I can't tell how happy I am to see ManUtd in such a crappy position... ;D
Finally! We are on the podium!
| 1 DVSC-Teva | 17 | 11 | 4 | 2 | 41–19 | +22 | 37 |
| 2 Videoton FC | 17 | 10 | 3 | 4 | 33–15 | +18 | 33 |
| 3 Györi ETO | 17 | 8 | 6 | 3 | 27–19 | +8 | 30 |
| 4 Diósgyöri VTK | 17 | 7 | 7 | 3 | 29–21 | +8 | 28 |
| 5 Ferencváros | 17 | 8 | 3 | 6 | 27–26 | +1 | 27 |
| 6 Haladás | 17 | 7 | 6 | 4 | 27–21 | +6 | 27 |
| 7 Pécsi MFC | 17 | 7 | 4 | 6 | 27–27 | 0 | 25 |
| 8 Lombard Pápa FC | 17 | 7 | 2 | 8 | 21–24 | –3 | 23 |
| 9 Budapest Honvéd | 17 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 23–21 | +2 | 23 |
| 10 Újpest FC | 17 | 5 | 6 | 6 | 30–31 | –1 | 21 |
| 11 Kecskeméti TE | 17 | 5 | 6 | 6 | 24–31 | –7 | 21 |
| 12 Mezökövesd | 17 | 5 | 3 | 9 | 21–31 | –10 | 18 |
| 13 MVM Paks | 17 | 4 | 5 | 8 | 21–29 | –8 | 17 |
| 14 Puskás Akadémia FC | 17 | 4 | 5 | 8 | 21–32 | –11 | 17 |
| 15 MTK Budapest | 17 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 18–21 | –3 | 15 |
| 16 Kaposvári Rákóczi | 17 | 2 | 3 | 12 | 15–37 | –22 | 9 |
Poll restarted.
Kazincbarcika is leading NB III East
Debreceni VSC is leading NB I
Juventus is leading Serie A
:D :D :D
Quote from: Akoss Poo on December 09, 2013, 07:51:32 PM
Kazincbarcika is leading NB III East
So what? NB III is a piece of crap. (NB I too)
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, GALATASARAY! ;D
That was one fun game to watch :D
Mr. Cocaine should accept this offer. ;D
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/diego-maradona-offered-100000-wear-2918427
(http://www.funatiq.com/images/maradona-vuvuzela.jpg)
This Sunday end the Argentinian league between San Shit Lorenzo vs Velez Sarsfield and Newell's vs Lanús.
Quote from: alanrotoi on December 13, 2013, 08:32:01 PM
This Sunday end the Argentinian league between San Shit Lorenzo vs Velez Sarsfield and Newell's vs Lanús.
To clarify why this is exciting:
San Lorenzo AT Velez Sarsfield
Lanus AT Newell's
San Lorenzo has 32pts, the other 3 have 30, so chances to have a final tie-breaking match are pretty high.
Have you considered what an extremely lucky draw Argentina got for the WC?
Not only do you guys have the easiest of all the groups. In the last 16, you face the runner-up from group E, which is likely to be either Ecuador or Switzerland.
Even in the QF where you could easily expect a world class opponent, you probably face either Portugal, Ghana, USA or Belgium. Strong teams of course, but not world class.
In the semis: Spain or Italy.
Brazil, on the other hand, has a very difficult draw. Even though the group is only half-strong, Brazil has a real killer match in the Last 16 against either Spain (reigning World and European champions) or Netherlands (eliminated Brazil in 2010). There's a real chance of being eliminated in the Last 16, which would be a disaster.
Since the results of the world cups are arranged, it won't happen.
Quote from: alanrotoi on December 18, 2013, 04:22:30 AM
Since the results of the world cups are arranged
It sounds like any Stunts competitions... :D
Are there ghost countries? The guys from Bosnia are the same than Coacia but with false moustache?
Quote from: alanrotoi on December 18, 2013, 01:30:22 PM
The guys from Bosnia are the same than Coacia but with false moustache?
Whatever... YUGOSLAVIA ;D
Na bazmeg, Pintér... >:(
http://www.sportsfan.com.au/attila-pinter-new-hungary-soccer-coach/tabid/91/newsid/118652/default.aspx
cr? Now really... cr??? Why? >:(
I think Ribéry deserved it, but marketing decided against him.
Anyway, it was now or never for Cristiano as he depends on Messi being injured to win
I think it was really fair. Ribéry was mainly nominated because his team was the best in the world this year. But Ronaldo was the best player. Real Madrid games are always the same story. Sloppy, lazy play most of the match, and then suddenly Ronaldo does something amazing and it's 1-0. Then suddenly it's 2-0 and 3-0.
If course he's not as good as Messi when Messi is at full strength, but this year he hasn't been.