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UnskilledStunts Championship => General Chat - USC => Topic started by: CTG on January 16, 2007, 12:51:45 PM

Title: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: CTG on January 16, 2007, 12:51:45 PM
Concept of a fast tournament for the best pipsqueaks of USC ever:

Date: April-May 2007

Invitation list:

Former champions

1 Dottore
2 Bonzai Joe
3 Gutix

Former season podiumers

4 Krys Toff
5 Akoss Poo
6 Alain il professore
7 CTG
8 CTG

Race winners

9 Renato Biker
10 Usrin
11 Mingva
12 Dark Chaser

Most active (but not race winner) USC drivers

13 Diesel Joe (18 races)
14 Zak McKracken (15 races)
15 CTG (13 races)
16 Mark L. Rivers (12 races)
17 Werda (12 races)
18 AbuRaf 70 (10 races)

Competition will start at least with 10, maximum with 12 pipsqueaks. The mentioned list means priority too (and will be extended if I can't persuade 10 pipsqueaks).

Group phase

Like in football: pipsqueaks will be cathegorized in groups, due to their priority rankings (2 groups). Everybody will play a match against everybody else in the group. Each races will last for one week. Winner of the matches will earn 2 points, draw means 1 point and loser gets nothing. The best performance of each races will get 1 bonus point. Missing a match would mean -1 point penalty and 2 seconds worse time than the worst in that round.

Sudden death phase

Group winners are qualified automatically to semi-finals. 2nd and 3rd place participate in "quarter-finals" - winners of these matches will fight with the group winners for the final. And of course the winner of semi-finals will play the last match against eachother... :)

To make it clear (I guess my words were just in mess), here is a model contest:

Priority list (bold letters: accepted invitation):

1 Mark Nailwood
2 Fdrzieva
3 CAP
4 Roy Wiegerinck

5 Tom Israels
6 Tsino
7 Juank23
8 Ben Snel
9 Bismarck
10 Inavoeg
11 Zioalfa
12 Dayan
13 FloFlo81
14 Pershing II
15 Andre Geo
16 Myron
17 Tweety Bird
18 Koenovic

12 pipsqueaks packed in 3 hats (best 4, next 4, last 4)

Both groups will contain 2-2 pipsqueaks from every hats (random)

Group A

Mark Nailwood
Tsino
Bismarck
Zioalfa
Pershing II
Koenovic

Group B

CAP
Roy Wiegeinck
Ben Snel
Inavoeg
Dayan
Myron

Group phase

Round winners

Mark Nailwood (2x)
Tsino
CAP
Inavoeg

Group A








nameNailwood  Tsino     Bismarck  Zioalfa   Pershing  Koenovic  PTS       +/-       Rank
Nailwoodxxx+ 1.25- 0.05+ 3.50+ 1.10+ 10.6510+ 16.45I
Tsino-1.25xxx0.00+ 5.50+ 2.30+ 7.758+ 14.30II
Bismarck+ 0.050.00xxx+ 1.05- 0.35+ 11.407+ 12.15III
Zioalfa- 3.50- 5.50- 1.05xxx+ 0.05+ 2.454- 7.55V
Pershing- 1.10- 2.30+ 0.35- 0.05xxx+ 8.804+ 5.70IV
Koenovic            - 10.65     - 7.75     - 11.40     - 2.45     - 8.80     xxx     0- 41.05     VI

Group B








nameCAP       Roy       Ben Snel  Inavoeg   Dayan     Myron     PTS       +/-       Rank
CAPxxx- 2.55+ 0.15- 0.50+ 10.55+ 7.407+ 15.05III
Roy+ 2.55xxx+ 0.30-0.05+ 6.00+ 2.958+ 11.75II
Ben Snel- 0.15- 0.30xxx+ 2.90+ 7.95+ 6.906+ 17.30IV
Inavoeg            + 0.50+0.05- 2.90xxx+ 9.45+ 3.709+ 10.80I
Dayan- 10.55     - 6.00     - 7.95     - 9.45     xxx     0.00     1- 33.95     VI
Myron- 7.40- 2.95- 6.90- 3.700.00xxx1- 20.95V

Direct way to semi-final

Mark Nailwood
Inavoeg

Quarter-finals


Tsino - CAP+ 1.35
Roy Wiegerinck - Bismarck   + 2.80


Semi-finals


Mark Nailwood - Tsino+ 3.15
Inavoeg - Roy Wiegerinck   - 0.10


Bronze match


Tsino - Inavoeg   - 2.25


Final


Mark Nailwood - Roy Wiegerinck   - 0.40
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 16, 2007, 01:10:32 PM
Since the end of IMSA Cup, we need a tournament like that.
Count me in.
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: CTG on January 16, 2007, 01:14:03 PM
Fine! I just talked to Dottore on MSN and he said yes too. It means already 3 pipsqueaks. :) (On the other hand Akoss Poo said no answer but I guess he won't participate).
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: BonzaiJoe on January 16, 2007, 06:15:14 PM
I'm also in.... Very complicated rules, but as long as you keep score, I guess we're alright :)
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: CTG on January 16, 2007, 09:53:36 PM
Not that difficult, system is very similar to water polo European Championship... :)
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: CTG on January 17, 2007, 08:29:04 AM
Design is almost ready...  ;)
(Of course I won't use V?c track and Carrera - I just needed the pics inserted in the table... :) )
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: CTG on February 01, 2007, 04:05:05 PM
 :) The usual black design.  :)

Basic concept is good but I have some idea how to improve it. Do you accept some piece of advice from me?
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: CTG on February 01, 2007, 05:06:38 PM
Tell. Or send.
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: CTG on February 04, 2007, 11:42:11 PM
What about track names? You can suggest any towns from the world. One of them will be Izevsk (Russia) for sure. :)
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: CTG on February 20, 2007, 09:39:18 AM
Another participant: Werda confirmed his start.
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: zaqrack on February 20, 2007, 10:25:24 AM
will participants race with the Skoda Rapid? :) (one of my fav cars :))

(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/3/3f/Skoda_Rapid_136_1988.jpg)
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: CTG on February 20, 2007, 10:36:18 AM
Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooah what a car!!! ;D
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: Krys TOFF on February 20, 2007, 10:48:34 AM
Quote from: CTG on February 04, 2007, 11:42:11 PM
What about track names? You can suggest any towns from the world. One of them will be Izevsk (Russia) for sure. :)
Why not using dead people names for track names ? Like Anna Nicole Smith or Lolo Ferrari. Dead blonde chicks with false tits are good names for tracks : false huge tits are hills, ass and pussy are tunnels, jump will be done over the mouth and the nose, ...

Edit by CTG: This is a serious topic!
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: CTG on February 20, 2007, 10:52:17 AM
Sorry, I had to. I don't like kidding with dead people even if they were whores.
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: CTG on February 26, 2007, 04:14:39 PM
USR idea frozen, postponed to 2008 (after the 5th season of USC).
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: Krys TOFF on February 26, 2007, 04:50:02 PM
Quote from: CTG on February 26, 2007, 04:14:39 PM
USR idea frozen, postponed to 2008 (after the 5th season of USC).
Why ? Not enough confirmations ?
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: CTG on February 28, 2007, 12:00:34 AM
No, I just recognized that I won't have time for it - but regular USC can run without problem and with less update.
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: Chulk on June 05, 2007, 03:12:25 PM
I like the idea! Implement it as soon as you can. And of course count me in!
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: CTG on June 06, 2007, 10:12:48 AM
Yes the XY vs Mark with Indy match will be cruel. Unless another Indy specialist (Dottore, Krys, AbuRaf) faces him there.
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: CTG on June 06, 2007, 02:51:22 PM
Damn, splitting topic fucked up the whole thing... Of course the last two post would be USL topic.
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: CTG on July 29, 2007, 09:25:32 PM
Invitation list at the moment:

Former champions

1 Dottore
2 Bonzai Joe
3 Gutix

Former season podiumers

4 Krys Toff
5 Akoss Poo
6 Alain il professore
7 CTG
8 CTG

Race winners

9 Renato Biker
10 Usrin
11 Mingva (DQF)
11 Mark L. Rivers
12 Argammon
13 Dark Chaser

Most active (but not race winner) USC drivers

14 Diesel Joe (20 races)
15 CTG (19 races)
16 Werda (18 races)
17 AbuRaf 70 (16 races)
18 Zak McKracken (15 races)
19 Super Brian (15 races)
20 Chulk (13 races)
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: CTG on December 17, 2007, 10:00:05 AM
NEW CONCEPT!!!

As I cancelled USR, I decided to make a bit different weekly event. We have never had a real team contest ever. Now I offer a chance to race for eachother - without individual scoreboard.

Idea is the following: 8 pipsqueaks ---> 4 teams. Not conventional teams - pipsqueaks would be divied in two caps (WRL rankings) and selected by a draw (one from top4, one from 5-8). Every team would play with the other one twice (every pipsqueaks vs every other pipsqueaks) and collect points.

Pointsystem:

3 pts - both team members could beat their opponents
2 pts - one member wins, the other loses and their summarized result is better than the opponent's
1 pt - one member wins, the other loses and their summarized result is worse than the opponent's
0 pt - both members lose

Maybe it sounds a bit difficult, so here is a sample contest:

1 - Inavoeg
2 - Mark Nailwood
3 - Roy Wiegerinck
4 - Akoss Poo
5 - Doelloos
6 - Leo Ramone
7 - KHR
8 - Mingva

Selection by a draw (for example via YouTube): Roy & Leo, Akoss & Doelloos, Inavoeg & KHR, Nailwood & Mingva

ROUND 1

Roy vs Doelloos 1:10.55 - 1:13.40
Leo vs Akoss 1:24.90 - 1:10.80 ---> 1:1, Akoss & Doelloos have better sum time result ---> 2 pts, other team 1 pt

In round 4 Roy will play race versus Akoss, Leo versus Doelloos.

Inavoeg vs Mingva 1:10.10 - 9:54.45
KHR vs Nailwood 1:20.00 - 1:20.05 ---> 2:0, Inavoeg & KHR 3 pts, other team 0 pt

...

6 rounds, everybody played with everybody else but his teammate. No individual rankings, just teams. ;) Do you like it?
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 17, 2007, 10:57:06 AM
Original idea. I like originality. But why only 8 pipsqueaks/4 teams ?
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: BonzaiJoe on December 17, 2007, 03:46:22 PM
Sounds like fun. But team-making should be well considered, maybe not just random...
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: CTG on December 17, 2007, 07:01:39 PM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on December 17, 2007, 10:57:06 AM
Original idea. I like originality. But why only 8 pipsqueaks/4 teams ?

Because I guess there's no more than 8 pipsqueaks being able to race weekly... :(
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: Chulk on December 17, 2007, 10:39:05 PM
I like the randomized teams, but who will handicap players?
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: CTG on December 19, 2007, 02:35:14 PM
So... from now the first 8 applicants can participate. It will start at the same day with the new USC track in January. ;)

Quote from: Chulk on December 17, 2007, 10:39:05 PM
I like the randomized teams, but who will handicap players?

I don't really understand your question. As I said before, randomization will be solved with draw (two caps with 4-4 little pieces of paper, draw, recorded with webcam and published on YouTube). Luck has a little role in this case but I guess first cap pipsqueaks are quite equal (possibly four of these pipsqueaks: Bonzai Joe - as a former USC champion he has the law to be first cap pipsqueak without WRL ranking, Mark, Dottore, Chulk, CTG, Duplode, Argammon, CTG), while second cap has a good balance too. What's more, teamwork will mean a lot - fast first cap pipsqueak with less sense to find tricks + good trickfinder oldie with worse WRL ranking can be a winner combination.
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: Chulk on December 19, 2007, 08:29:38 PM
I was asking who will decide about a pipsqueak's skill? Who says which pipsqueaks belong to cup "a" or cup "b"? Who will decide cups conformation? (This last one should have been the original question, as it's the clearest one)  ;)
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 19, 2007, 08:43:13 PM
Quote from: Chulk on December 19, 2007, 08:29:38 PM
I was asking who will decide about a pipsqueak's skill? Who says which pipsqueaks belong to cup "a" or cup "b"? Who will decide cups conformation? (This last one should have been the original question, as it's the clearest one)  ;)
I think CTG will do according to his WRL + best results achieved at USC, like he said about BJ.
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on December 19, 2007, 09:29:37 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 19, 2007, 02:35:14 PM
So... from now the first 8 applicants can participate. It will start at the same day with the new USC track in January. ;)

Maybe I didn't understand very well. Will USR for teams start next January, while ISM will be in its topical moment? If it's so, sorry but I don't think I'll participate, I won't have enough time...
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: Duplode on December 19, 2007, 09:37:00 PM
Quote from: Mark L. Rivers on December 19, 2007, 09:29:37 PM
Will USR for teams start next January, while ISM will be in its topical moment? If it's so, sorry but I don't think I'll participate, I won't have enough time...

That's very true, CTG - as you are concerned about pipsqueaks lacking time for weekly races, you'd better postpone it a bit...
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: Chulk on December 19, 2007, 11:19:36 PM
I agree with Duplode and Mark. Maybe it can start on February?
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: CTG on December 19, 2007, 11:38:03 PM
Quote from: Mark L. Rivers on December 19, 2007, 09:29:37 PM
Quote from: CTG on December 19, 2007, 02:35:14 PM
So... from now the first 8 applicants can participate. It will start at the same day with the new USC track in January. ;)

Maybe I didn't understand very well. Will USR for teams start next January, while ISM will be in its topical moment? If it's so, sorry but I don't think I'll participate, I won't have enough time...

Hmmm then let's say it will start few days after ISM final.
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: CTG on January 17, 2008, 12:11:48 PM
Idea cancelled... or let's say postponed to an undefined date. :)

I have to work a lot in the following weeks/months so I can't afford to spend too much time on different competitions and it would be very unfair against my future temporary teammate.
Title: Re: UnskilledStunts Rapid
Post by: Krys TOFF on January 17, 2008, 12:20:41 PM
Quote from: CTGmy future temporary teammate.
Mmmm... Work teammate or the re-born of Unskilled Drivers with a new member ?

edit : forget it, it's the teammate of USR as mentionned in previous posts. My mistake.