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The first live event of the year is coming the 17th of March! (Next Sunday) in the Chatroom. The time is the following:

09:00 Buenos Aires
09:00 São Paulo
12:00 London
13:00 Amsterdam
13:00 Rome
13:00 Budapest
22:00 Brisbane

The car for this race will be Melange XGT-88... ALL OF THEM! Yes, we'll race with all versions of Melange. Why? I saw there was a confusion here and there of wich is the official version of the car so I finally decided to build the official version: Melange XGT-88 1.0 . As always the 1.0 version only had a small 3d shape enhancement.
The idea is to have all the versions racing in the same race. The version 1.0 will inherit the ID "CDOR" while the other versions will be assigned with similar IDs only revealed the day of the race. All the versions has the same performance and physical characteristics, the only changes are aesthetic in the dashboard and the 3d shape.
The versions are:

• Melange XGT-88 (2003) - Stressed didn't exist so I used the 3d shape of Acura and the LM-002 dashboard's. It has digital speedometer of course.
• Melange XGT-88 (2012) - CTG's version. He caught very well the spirit and the meaning of the car and made an excellent version.
• Melange XGT-88 19th Anniversary - commemorative version meant to be the final version but still had some details.
• Melange XGT-88 v1.0 - Official and definitive version of Melange. It's a stylized version of 19th Anniversary and fixed those details. Shared below in a zip file.

Please feel free to choose any of these versions for the race but please let's try to have one of each at least.

The track is GENERATIONS a fast and easy track that will be shared in the following days but you can check the flyer below. The cars will be shared the same day of the race because of the change of the car ID but meanwhile you can test drive any version while all of them has the same performance.

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Race summary:
Winner: Duplode
Man of the Race: Kylie and Duplode 107 jumps each.
Fastest lap: Overdrijf and Duplode: 0:49.35

1st Duplode (107 jumps)
2nd Alan Rotoi (105 jumps)
3rd Overdrijf (103 jumps)
4th dreadnaut (100 jumps)
5th KyLiE (107 jumps)
6th Erik Barros (101 jumps)
7th Cas (72 jumps)

It was the big race for Duplode. He was in every possible prize, shared or not :D
Congratulations guys and thank you for participating! It was a fun race!

2012 green for me, the one I did an academy episode with.

Great! I'll go vintage: 2003 model, dark grey  8)

I like 2021 version, but I won't be able to race this event  :'(

Great Scott!!! I will pick up the 2021 Brown one!!

I'll grab the 2024 in yellow!  Alan, I know you like yellow too, so let me know if you want to reserve it for yourself!

Thank you! Since all versions has at least one pick I'll pick the v1.0 and a color nobody used so no problem with it. As manager of the event I'll adapt to the pipsqueaks selections. :)

I'm in! I'll go for the traditional 2012 edition — I has a soft spot for the target dashboard! Purple color, please 8)

1 day left for the start!! I'll publish the track in few hours.

This is the track for tomorrow. Almost the same track with a couple elements changed. Take a look and give a try for tomorrow! Remember the car is Melange.

The rules will be the same. Race as many as laps possible. We'll have 12 minutes to make a 8 minutes replay.

Count me in!  I'll use version 1.0 in red. :)

Tomorrow before the race I'll share a Stunts version with the track and all Melange versions installed. You'll only have to select the track and the Melange version you chose.

Details: the ID of every melange version were changed but the new version will keep the "CDOR" id. You'll find the versions in correlative order in the showroom.

Fastening my seatbelt!

Quote from: alanrotoi on March 16, 2024, 06:50:02 PMDetails: the ID of every melange version were changed but the new version will keep the "CDOR" id. You'll find the versions in correlative order in the showroom.

I think I'll race with the standard CDOR version then. I feel uncomfortable leaving replays around pointing to single-event cars 😅

Still purple though!

Stunts with all Melange versions and the track.

My replay attached.

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KyLiE

1. 0:59.85
2. 1:52.25 - 0:52.40
3. 2.44.80 - 0:52.55
4. 3:35.65 - 0:50.85
5. 4:26.50 - 0:50.85
6. 5:18.30 - 0:51.80
7. 6:09.90 - 0:51.60
8. 7:02.65 - 0:52.75
9. 7:54.20 - 0:51.55

8:00 - middle of the first ramp on the first straight

107 jumps

Alan:

Lap 1: 57.65
Lap 2: 1:49.65 52.00
Lap 3: 2:40.30 50.65
Lap 4: 3:30.20 49.90
Lap 5: 4:20.60 50.40
Lap 6: 5:10.50 49.90
Lap 7: 6:00.30 49.80
Lap 8: 6:51.05 50.75
Lap 9: 7:40.75 49.70
8 minute mark halfway through banked corner in the first corner combination.

Number of jumps: 105

(Perspective from above is a little weird, I tried to find the frame that suggests the nose is actually over the tunnel a bit.)

KyLiE's replay

1. 0:59.85 (59.85)
2. 1:52.20 (52.35)
3. 2:44.75 (52.55)
4. 3:35.65 (50.90)
5. 4:26.45 (50.80) - Fastest lap!
6. 5:18.30 (51.85)
7. 6:09.90 (51.60)
8. 7:02.60 (52.70)
9. 7:54.15 (51.55)
* 8:00.00 at the slope before the closed jump
107 jumps

Cas:

1. 1:03.90
2. 2:01.95
3. 2:55.70
4. 3:53.40
5. 4:48.45
6. 5:43.15
7. 6:41.50
8. 7:38.35

8:00 leaving the first banked corner; 72 jumps

Lap times:

1. 63.90
2. 58.05
3. 53.75
4. 57.70
5. 55.05
6. 54.70
7. 58.35
8. 56.85

Overdrijf

1 - 0:58,90
2 - 1:50,50
3 - 2:41,15
4 - 3:31,55
5 - 4:22,25
6 - 5:12,50
7 - 6:01,85
8 - 6:53,60
9 - 7:44,20
Final on middle of the corner after the dirty road
Jumps: 103

51,60
50,65
50,40
50,70
50,25
49,35
51,75
50,60

Dreadnaut:
Race time  Lap time
00:00:58   
00:01:50    00:51,80
00:02:41    00:51,55
00:03:32    00:50,75
00:04:24    00:52,45
00:05:16    00:51,80
00:06:06    00:50,00
00:06:57    00:50,70
00:07:47    00:50,00

08:00.00 ended two tiles before the dirt road. He made 100 jumps.

Erik Barros

1. 0:59.05 (0:59.05)
2. 1:51.65 (0:52.60)
3. 2:44.75 (0:53.10)
4. 3:38.05 (0:53.30)
5. 4:31.10 (0:53.05)
6. 5:26.05 (0:54.95)
7. 6:18.90 (0:52.85)
8. 7:13.05 (0:54.15)
8+ 8:00.00 (On the final banked road)

Jumps: 101

Duplode

1. 0:57.85
2. 1:47.25 - 0:49.50
3. 2:36.95 - 0:49.70
4. 3:26.85 - 0:49.90
5. 4:16.20 - 0:49.35
6. 5:06.15 - 0:49.95
7. 5:56.00 - 0:49.85
8. 6:46.05 - 0:50.05
9. 7:35.95 - 0:49.90

8:00.00 - at the end of the bridge before the tunnels

107 jumps

Duplode's replay:

1. 0:57.80 (57.80)
2. 1:47.25 (49.45)
3. 2:36.90 (49.65)
4. 3:26.80 (49.90)
5. 4:16.15 (49.35) - Fastest lap!
6. 5:06.10 (49.95)
7. 5:55.95 (49.85)
8. 6:46.05 (50.01)
9. 7:35.90 (49.85)
* 8:00.00 just about to leave the bridge before the long tunnel

107 jumps

Race summary:
Winner: Duplode
Man of the Race: Kylie and Duplode 107 jumps each.
Fastest lap: Overdrijf and Duplode: 0:49.35

1st Duplode (107 jumps) Model: 2003 Melange XGT-88
2nd Alan Rotoi (105 jumps) Model: Melange XGT-88 v1.0
3rd Overdrijf (103 jumps) Model: 2012 Melange XGT-88
4th dreadnaut (100 jumps) Model: Melange XGT-88 v1.0
5th KyLiE (107 jumps) Model: Melange XGT-88 v1.0
6th Erik Barros (101 jumps) Model: 19th Anniversary Melange XGT-88
7th Cas (72 jumps) Model: Melange XGT-88 v1.0

It was the big race for Duplode. He was in every possible prize, shared or not :D
Congratulations guys and thank you for participating! It was a fun race!

PS: I must admit that the correct ending would be the newest version winning the race but I'm glad that the original 2003 version did it :D The version started it all.

The trophy for @Duplode and @KyLiE

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Race summary:
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What an excellent trophy, thanks @Erik Barros ! :D And yes, I really enjoyed the opportunity of driving the 2003 Melange again! :)

Ha ha!  Thanks @Erik Barros!  Also, thank you @alanrotoi for the race summary.  It was a great race! :)

The video of the event was published!! Check what a beatiful and tight race we did. Thank you everybody!

https://youtu.be/bZ8Vta8-1S8

Great video!  Very nice to watch full screen as recommended :D

Thanks! It was surprising the quantity of magic carpets (even while building the track). That's why I decided to add the "Man of the Race" prize but only reveal it after the race to not make you think about it and let the jumps and magic carpets be free. ;D

Watching the video I already made a map of the spots where the jumps were made. Let me know if you find another magic carpet spot (where and when in the race).

The "Wind Tunnel" was the place where almost every lap had a magic carpet.

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Guys, the Top speed of Melange is 219 mph (I thought it was 218 mph)  :o . Only 3 pipsqueaks reached it in this race and it was in the same place, a jump from the broken bridge to the hill road.

• 4th lap: dreadnaut
• 7th lap: Alan Rotoi
• 9th lap: Cas

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Quote from: alanrotoi on April 02, 2024, 11:36:16 PMGuys, the Top speed of Melange is 219 mph (I thought it was 218 mph)  :o . Only 3 pipsqueaks reached it in this race and it was in the same place, a jump from the broken bridge to the hill road.

• 4th lap: dreadnaut
• 7th lap: Alan Rotoi
• 9th lap: Cas

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I've seen this effect before. What I suspect happens is this: when the car is at say 79*128 rpm it does it does its little calculation, figures the car should be two steps faster faster on the next frame and goes to 81*128 rpm. Here it does another calculation and figures it should not increase the speed to the next frame, so the car stops accelerating and maxes out at whatever speed 81*128*gear ratio gives it. But if you end up in a situation where you happen to land on 80*128 rpm instead of 79 the torque curve and air drag happen to be such that the calculation also comes out to "2 steps faster", bringing it up to 82*128 rpm and a higher speed, at which point the car will stop accelerating.

This is a thing that can happen both at flat track top speed and real top speed, but it's probably more likely to happen with real top speed, as speedups and such give big acceleration, making the car skip rpm levels and sometimes land higher than other times.

It gets a bit more messy when powergear is involved. The turbo Siluro sometimes says it did 245 mph on the evaluation screen, even though what really happened was the meter going up and back down really shortly without it visually looking like the car really got a burst of speed, so it probably just thinks it is in powergear for one frame or so?

Oooh that's a good explanation! We should place it in a wiki article. Some mechanics of the game are unknown and it would be cool to make them public.

Very technical and a great analysis. Yes, this is something that should be on the wiki. The richness of the possibilities in Stunts is never ending :D

BTW there is also a subtle difference in the dashboard of the 19th Anniversary version and the 1.0 version. Check!  8)

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It's a beautiful cockpit design, is the miniature in the center intended to be a small example of the Melange on the dashboard or a digital screen?A diecast miniature of Melange would be amazing!!

Quote from: Erik Barros on April 07, 2024, 04:54:29 AMIt's a beautiful cockpit design, is the miniature in the center intended to be a small example of the Melange on the dashboard or a digital screen?A diecast miniature of Melange would be amazing!!

It's an Opponent Proximity Sensor ;D

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Imagine if cars had a plug-in file that allows you to implement very specific behaviours for cars and their dashboards!  A dream!

Wait, you changed the font for the digital speedometer? That's a thing you can do?

Yes and no. This graphic was originaly about the differences between 2012's and 19th anniversary versions. For v1.0 I only changed the roof.

About the numbers of the digital speedometer they are just sepsrated images so I used a different font for every image, saved as png and replaced them. Just like ctg did from 2003 to 2012 versions.
2003 version has the corvette's font but in black because the background color. For 2012 version ctg changed them. For 19th Anniversary I changed everything including the font of the numbers.