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Title: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: Argammon on February 07, 2023, 05:26:06 PM
I just sent the track to dreadnaut. Please excuse the silly title, I guess that happens when you have small kids.  8)

Sneak Preview:

-dual way: One newbie friendly way, and one that is a bit more challenging. The boring way may be useful for live racing.
-both ways take approximately the same time, which is faster depends on the car used.
-a lot of water to make way switching more difficult.
+10% to the Pantera because it is a cool car!
Title: Re: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: Duplode on February 07, 2023, 05:46:24 PM
Great title! It kinda makes me want to race in blue  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/A4vo8NO.gif)
Title: Re: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: Cas on February 07, 2023, 05:55:28 PM
Getting ready for it!  8)
Title: Re: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: afullo on February 07, 2023, 10:09:30 PM
At first glance I read the Hare and the Hondt, as electoral systems...  ;D
Title: Re: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: Friker on February 12, 2023, 07:22:08 PM
Why this "shortcut" does not work?
Title: Re: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: Argammon on February 12, 2023, 07:51:33 PM
Did anybody try whether it works? If it does and is fast enough, maybe ban it before the race starts officially.

Sorry for the blunder. :/
Title: Re: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: Duplode on February 12, 2023, 08:13:36 PM
Quote from: Friker on February 12, 2023, 07:22:08 PMWhy this "shortcut" does not work?

Because it should be banned according to The Venerable Precedent :D See also: ZCT136 (https://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?topic=2806.0), ZCT146 (https://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?topic=2958.msg58897#msg58897), ZCT244 (https://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?topic=3840.0)... (cc @dreadnaut for confirmation.)
Title: Re: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: Cas on February 12, 2023, 08:45:03 PM
It's very well calibrated. Yet, I've had a slightly better result as the Hare :)
Title: Re: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: Friker on February 12, 2023, 08:48:24 PM
Ok, it does work (maybe it is faster). :) I did not know it is banned. I though it is a part of a desing (third equally quick path). Good thing is I asked about it. :)
Title: Re: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: dreadnaut on February 12, 2023, 09:45:41 PM
Yes, I would say banned in advance, as unplanned — as Argammon mentioned earlier.
Title: Re: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: Argammon on February 12, 2023, 10:26:00 PM
I did not balance it so I would suggest to ban it. Could you please write a sentence above the track so there is no confusion?

Thanks and sorry for the trouble.  :)
Title: Re: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: Argammon on February 13, 2023, 11:13:49 AM
Quote from: Friker on February 12, 2023, 08:48:24 PMOk, it does work (maybe it is faster). :) I did not know it is banned. I though it is a part of a desing (third equally quick path). Good thing is I asked about it. :)

I would be curious to see whether that route is faster indeed.  :)
Title: Re: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: Friker on February 13, 2023, 11:24:05 AM
Quote from: Argammon on February 13, 2023, 11:13:49 AM
Quote from: Friker on February 12, 2023, 08:48:24 PMOk, it does work (maybe it is faster). :) I did not know it is banned. I though it is a part of a desing (third equally quick path). Good thing is I asked about it. :)

I would be curious to see whether that route is faster indeed.  :)

Then do not ban it. :)
Title: Re: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: Argammon on February 13, 2023, 02:11:45 PM
Quote from: Friker on February 13, 2023, 11:24:05 AM
Quote from: Argammon on February 13, 2023, 11:13:49 AM
Quote from: Friker on February 12, 2023, 08:48:24 PMOk, it does work (maybe it is faster). :) I did not know it is banned. I though it is a part of a desing (third equally quick path). Good thing is I asked about it. :)

I would be curious to see whether that route is faster indeed.  :)

Then do not ban it. :)

It's not my decision. I trust the judgement of dreadnaut and Duplode who have much more experience. Imagine, I would suggest not to ban it and it turned out to be 10 seconds faster!  8)
Title: Re: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: Friker on February 13, 2023, 02:33:05 PM
Quote from: Argammon on February 13, 2023, 02:11:45 PM
Quote from: Friker on February 13, 2023, 11:24:05 AM
Quote from: Argammon on February 13, 2023, 11:13:49 AM
Quote from: Friker on February 12, 2023, 08:48:24 PMOk, it does work (maybe it is faster). :) I did not know it is banned. I though it is a part of a desing (third equally quick path). Good thing is I asked about it. :)

I would be curious to see whether that route is faster indeed.  :)

Then do not ban it. :)

It's not my decision. I trust the judgement of dreadnaut and Duplode who have much more experience. Imagine, I would suggest not to ban it and it turned out to be 10 seconds faster!  8)

To be honest.. at least I wouldn't be driving a straight line most of the time. :) Unfortunately, this type of track is completely out of my possibilities (I like to spend the least amount of time to produce half-decent result).
Title: Re: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: Argammon on February 13, 2023, 04:24:41 PM
I don't have a strong opinion on this issue. It is only important to me that everybody is aware of the rules.
Another possibility would have been to open up the secret path after the public days. But as I've said, I don't have a strong opinion and am no admin.  :)
 
Title: Re: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: Daniel3D on February 13, 2023, 07:35:51 PM
Quote from: Argammon on February 13, 2023, 04:24:41 PMI don't have a strong opinion on this issue. It is only important to me that everybody is aware of the rules.
Another possibility would have been to open up the secret path after the public days. But as I've said, I don't have a strong opinion and am no admin.  :)
 
It's an unintended path. So better to not allow it
Title: Re: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: dreadnaut on February 13, 2023, 08:06:22 PM
Quote from: Daniel3D on February 13, 2023, 07:35:51 PMIt's an unintended path. So better to not allow it

For a track like this, were the two main routes have been balanced carefully, that's what I went for. In other situations it could be a nice discovery, but here it changes the nature of what Argammon intended for the track.
Title: Re: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: alanrotoi on March 30, 2023, 03:10:54 PM
Ooh what a funny detail. Dreadnaut added the angry Cherry Chassis picture to my report. ;D  ;D
Title: Re: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: dreadnaut on March 30, 2023, 09:19:19 PM
I didn't have a grumpy Alan picture ;D
Title: Re: ZCT 259 The Hare and the Hedehog.
Post by: Daniel3D on March 30, 2023, 09:32:19 PM
Quote from: dreadnaut on March 30, 2023, 09:19:19 PMI didn't have a grumpy Alan picture ;D
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