I created this topic in this section because its a south america?s competition, but I will write in english so our europeans friends can read and talk about it.
Some curiosity of mine about this competition that I like so much:
- Question for the europeans folks: It is true that in europe you dont give a damm about it ? Even dont know which teams are playing and the traditional ones? :cry:
- In argentina its also called Libertadores da America ?
It's not very usual to follow Libertadores Cup in Hungary. But I've heard that Atletico Paranaense was a finalist last time. :)
Atletico Paranaense was not expect in the finals. Everybody suposed they would stop in quarter-finals, right Leo ? :P
My team is Corinthians, the most loved and hated in Brazil, and this year we will be the champions!!! 8)
We have the best south american player (Tevez - argentinian), one who servers Brazil, and other 2 or 3 who could. We are the brazilian 2005 champion. :-D :-D :-D
Quote from: "vamologocomisso"Question for the europeans folks: It is true that in europe you dont give a damm about it ? Even dont know which teams are playing and the traditional ones? :cry:
- In argentina its also called Libertadores da America ?
I don't know anything about it.
If CTG had not answered mentionning Leo's favorite football team, I would not even know that you're talking about football. :lol:
Libertadores Da America... Mmmmm... Why talking about American Liberty for football ? :roll:
hehehe
you should know a little about libertadores, because many future football stars will appear here :wink:
in France, for example, in Lyon, they have Juninho(vasco), Fred(cruzeiro) and Cris(corinthians)
Well, unfortunally Corinthians lose yesterday(today) against Tigres from Mexico. :cry:
When the opponent is from mexico, colombia, equator, bolivia or peru, its allways trouble because they allways use their advantage of playing above 2500 meters (some places above 3000m), when the oxigen is rare and the local players is used to it.
When the opponent is from argentina, chile, uruguai, paraguai, and brasil, its hard to win in their homes, because they are strong.
Quote from: "vamologocomisso"hehehe
you should know a little about libertadores, because many future football stars will appear here :wink:
in France, for example, in Lyon, they have Juninho(vasco), Fred(cruzeiro) and Cris(corinthians)
Well, unfortunally Corinthians lose yesterday(today) against Tigres from Mexico. :cry:
When the opponent is from mexico, colombia, equator, bolivia or peru, its allways trouble because they allways use their advantage of playing above 2500 meters (some places above 3000m), when the oxigen is rare and the local players is used to it.
When the opponent is from argentina, chile, uruguai, paraguai, and brasil, its hard to win in their homes, because they are strong.
Jonh, Juninho Pernambucano started his career in Sport Recife and Fred in Am?rica Mineiro. This year, Atl?tico Paranaense is out, then I'll expect a good performance from Goi?s, because the coach, Geninho is an idol here (Brazilian Champion '01).
juninho showed his talent in Vasco, and Fred was inexpressive in America Mineiro.
em 2001 eu torci muito pro sao caetano ser campeao :roll:
engra?ado que aquele jogador sensa??o do atletico-pr sumiu depois daquilo. nem o nome eu lembro direito. alguma coisa mineiro, alem de kleber e kleberson, entre outros.
Yes, in Argentina it is also called "Libertadores de America" as well as Club Atletico Independiente's Stadium (No-team has won the cup more times than Independiente with 7, 4 in a row)
Yes, in Argentina it is also called "Libertadores de America" as well as Club Atletico Independiente's Stadium (No-team has won the cup more times than Independiente with 7, 4 in a row)
Chulk, I really dont want to undeserve all the independente tittles, but until 10,15 years ago, the brazilian teams dont care much about libertadores. :twisted:
Here, the teams also dont care(d) much for "Brazil Cup". Only Brazilian tournament counts(ed).
Then they start to care for libertadores, and also Brazil Cup(because this championship guarantees vacancy in libertadores).
Here is the only "libertador" of America that I ever heard about until Leo and Vamolo started to talk about South America football :
(http://www.chapellerie-traclet.com/hat/images/Cheicon_beret-che-guevara.jpg)
:-D
Quote from: "Krys TOFF"
Che?
Quote from: "Krys TOFF"Here is the only "libertador" of America that I ever heard about until Leo and Vamolo started to talk about South America football :
:-D
Eira! Eira! Che Guevara ? da caveira!!!
Chulk (ou algum outro hermano argentino). O jogador S?rgio Ag?ero, do Independiente, ? realmente tudo isso que est?o falando ??? Dizem que ele pode substituir Ronaldo no Real Madrid, e j? compararam ele com Maradona e Messi... :shock:
Para os argentinos, o Gallardo foi um dos 300 novos Maradona
hahahahaha!!!
isso ? verdade.
a lista dos 4000 novos maradonas ? grande:
aimar, messi, tevez, gallardo(:shock:), riquelme, ortega(:shock:), milito, saviola, dalessandro, etc, etc...
os jornais argentinos s?o um pouco precipitados :wink:
Messi tem potencial, mas ? muito novo para se dizer se vai ser de classe mundial
Hmm Krys I guess you're wrong. El Libertador de Am?rica is Jos? de San Mart?n.
(http://www.adonde.com/historia/images/1821san_martin_ar.jpg)
Also Sim?n Bolivar.
(http://www.ellibertador.com/images/Simon%20Bolivar%201.JPG)
El Che is another thing :)
well, for us brazilians it was Dom Pedro II.
Who said:
'Independencia ou morte!' =D>
Quote from: "vamologocomisso"Chulk (ou algum outro hermano argentino). O jogador S?rgio Ag?ero, do Independiente, ? realmente tudo isso que est?o falando ??? Dizem que ele pode substituir Ronaldo no Real Madrid, e j? compararam ele com Maradona e Messi... :shock:
Sergio Ag?ero es un gran jugador, el mejor en Argentina probrablemente y tambien es cierto que Real Madrid lo busca. Messi es el mejor jugador juvenil del planeta y tiene potencial para ser el mejor de todos en el futuro, pero tanto el como Ag?ero son todavia muy jovenes.
Ag?ero es excelente y de verdad te digo que uno disfruta viendolo jugar.
O melhor jogador sulamericano atualmente ? Carlitos Tevez!!!
Ele ? jogador do Corinthians, meu time de cora??o, mas isso ? apenas coincid?ncia :-D :-D
Es cierto que Tevez es uno de los mejores de America y el hecho de que se destaque en un grande de Brasil como Corinthians le da todavia mas merito
Quote from: "vamologocomisso"well, for us brazilians it was Dom Pedro II.
Who said:
'Independencia ou morte!' =D>
Dom Pedro II don't said "Independ?ncia ou morte!" Who said it was Dom Pedro I:
Leo, you couldnt just left the way it was ??? Nobody would know :oops: :roll: :-D :-D :-D
now, Im an idiot! :? :cry: :cry:
Quote from: "vamologocomisso"Chulk, I really dont want to undeserve all the independente tittles, but until 10,15 years ago, the brazilian teams dont care much about libertadores. :twisted:
Here, the teams also dont care(d) much for "Brazil Cup". Only Brazilian tournament counts(ed).
Then they start to care for libertadores, and also Brazil Cup(because this championship guarantees vacancy in libertadores).
Si en Brasil no es muy importante la copa libertadores, ?por qu? abriste este post? Me parece que es mas importante de lo que quieren aceptar!! :lol:
I hate football
eu odeio futebol
yo odio futebol
Ich hasse Fu?ball
Je d?teste le football
Odio il football
:D :D :D :D
Alan, isso era no passado. j? faz muito tempo que os times brasileiros d?o muita importancia para a libertadores :wink:
Renato, Voc? ? uma vergonha para o povo Brasileiro! :-D
um beijo, meu amor :oops: ...ihhhh, esqueci que n?o pode mais brincar assim :-D :-D :-D :-D
hahaha, n?o esquente cara, eu gosto de futebol, o que eu n?o gosto ? do fanatismo descontrolado de muitos brasileiros (n?o estou acusando ningu?m especificamente). Voc? n?o fica bravo quando v? uma not?cia na TV de que os torcedores do time derrotado destru?ram um ?nibus p?blico s? porque este estava lotado de torcedores do time advers?rio? Ent?o, foi isso que eu quis dizer com "eu odeio futebol" ;-)
Yo prefiero ver encuentros internacionales (de paises y clubes), porque las ligas nacionales son aburridas y llenas de fanatismo y pol?tica.
Quote from: "alanrotoi"Yo prefiero ver encuentros internacionales (de paises y clubes), porque las ligas nacionales son aburridas y llenas de fanatismo y pol?tica.
na argentina, deve acontecer o mesmo que no brasil. os melhores jogadores (os bons jogadores), v?o embora muito cedo deixando o campeonato nacional fraco e desenteressante (n?o totalmente, claro, mas muitos times ficam realmente muito fracos).
o auge de todo jogador brasileiro ? passado na europa, e depois que o jogador envelhece e ninguem o quer mais por l?, ele volta a jogar no brasil.
Meus campeonatos favoritos s?o: World Cup; Copa America; Champions League; Libertadores da America; Liga Espanhola; Campeonato Brasileiro; Campeonato Paulista;
N?o coloquei a UEFA Cup porque n?o consigo acompanhar
TIM?????????OOOOOO E???????????!!!!!
Universidad Catolica(CHI) 2 x 3 Corinthians(BRA)
Tim?o teve uma vit?ria her?ica com 2 jogadores a menos!!! :shock: :shock:
de virada, na casa do advers?rio!
novo l?der do grupo!!!
esse ano a ta?a ? nossa!!!
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
just to remember: Corinthians passed in first place of his group!!!
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
Leo, e o atl?tico, hein ?! ?LTIMO COLOCADO no brasileir?o ???
que peninha! :cry:
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
hoje, jogo important?ssimo:
River Plate x Corinthians
avante, Tim?o!!!
:-D :-D :-D
Quote from: "vamologocomisso"just to remember: Corinthians passed in first place of his group!!!
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
Leo, e o atl?tico, hein ?! ?LTIMO COLOCADO no brasileir?o ???
que peninha! :cry:
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
?ltimo n?o! PEN?LTIMO... Mais respeito! No ano passado, levamos 12 jogos para ganhar a primeira e ainda chegamos em sexto...
How strange, South American people are even more fond of football than we in Europe, and still: no posts for ages.
Quote from: CTG on October 22, 2011, 10:52:41 AM
How strange, South American people are even more fond of football than we in Europe, and still: no posts for ages.
more action, less words
? :P Böff!
Quote from: Renato Biker on March 23, 2006, 04:12:19 AM
I hate football
eu odeio futebol
yo odio futebol
Ich hasse Fu?ball
Je d?teste le football
Odio il football
:D :D :D :D
Something is missing: "Gyülölöm a futballt!"
(of course I don't)
Semi-finals: no teams from Brasil...
Quote from: CTG on May 15, 2014, 07:26:26 AM
Semi-finals: no teams from Brasil...
A refreshing change. They had won the last 4. I feel we'll have a surprising champion and my bet is Nacional (P) or Bolivar (B)
Cruzeiro players are undead...
River Plate won Copa Sudamericana - is it more or less the same as EL behind Champions League in Europe?
Quote from: CTG on December 12, 2014, 11:42:26 AM
River Plate won Copa Sudamericana - is it more or less the same as EL behind Champions League in Europe?
Exactly. We fell in the semifinals BTW, after (1) a defensive blunder in the first leg; (2) playing perhaps the best 45 minutes of football in the season in the second half of the second leg but missing four clear chances while at it; and (3) losing 4-1 at penalties.
Well... not exactly the same, as clubs that play Libertadores play Sudamericana as well (not just the 3º in Round Robin, but all of them). So technically, you can win both cups the same season (which you cannot do in Europe)