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Posted by zaqrack
 - January 10, 2008, 10:15:28 PM
OK, a brief HOWTO as a start:

-download a DOS/Win9x boot floppy image according to your taste. I used the standard Windows98 files available here: http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=196

-Extract them somewhere

-download HP USB Disk Format Tool available here: http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=197

-unpack and run the tool, specifying FAT32 as a filesystem, and tick Create a DOS startup disk. Specify the location of the Win98/other system files extracted earlier

-Format the drive

-Copy your Stunts directory to the USB key.

-If you want it to autostart, just edit autoexec.bat in the root of the USB key, and enter stunts_k with its path.


later I'll add pictures, and info on how to add disk caching to speed up disk access, but it's not needed for Stunts that much.
Posted by Duplode
 - January 10, 2008, 08:02:14 PM
Quote from: zaqrack on January 10, 2008, 07:48:21 PM
The another reason why I post this here is if anyone would like to create a similar DOS booting pendrive, I could write a small HOWTO. A good way to use an old pendrive of yours for something useful :)

Here is one interested potential user  8)
Posted by zaqrack
 - January 10, 2008, 07:48:21 PM
As I got a work notebook at my new workplace (HP 6720s - GR649A in case anyone interested), which I will have to use while traveling to China, I formatted an USB pendrive to boot DOS and start Stunts, so I can play on any computer I meet, from now :)

The strange thing is, that on my own notebook, when I start Stunts this way, the sounds and the Music works strangely. Music skips and stops, and sound: there is no engine sound, just the sound of the landings after jumps and the skidding - I don't mind, this is the perfect setup for me. I always shift gears according to the RPM meter on the dashboard, and now I'm very intensely alerted when I start skidding. I like it!

The another reason why I post this here is if anyone would like to create a similar DOS booting pendrive, I could write a small HOWTO. A good way to use an old pendrive of yours for something useful :)
Posted by Simon82
 - December 23, 2007, 09:48:30 PM
Yeah!!! Now I've a FAT32 C: partition I installed Dos 7.1 on first and after xp on it. Stunts run flawlessy smooth as never seen on dosbox. I was right on it comparing both system.

The only bad thing is that my laptop can't apparently resiza dos low res image to scale on fullscreen.. :(
Posted by Chulk
 - December 23, 2007, 03:13:17 PM
I can't really see why you couldn't make it work. Maybe you should install DOS and then copy stunts directory to that partition. That shouldn't be so hard. Why did you try to do it with bootable floppies and CD's?
Posted by Duplode
 - December 23, 2007, 01:12:58 AM
...or I'm a complete DOS noob. Yesterday I created a 200MB FAT32 partition on my secondary HD and tried to load DOS/Stunts from all sorts of boot floppies and CDs I could arrange without having to tinker a lot with configs (including Zak's ISO). Nothing worked - at most I reached Main Menu and was deterred due to lack of extended memory... And, to kill my will to try it further, I had a huge scare: After launching from a FreeDOS one-floppy package and reaching the car selection screen, my video went crazy with gibberish and the PC failed to restart afferwards! I had to unplug the video card, boot the machine running on onboard video and plug the GeForce again... ???
Posted by Simon82
 - December 21, 2007, 11:12:55 AM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on December 21, 2007, 10:25:17 AM
I can only agree : even if I managed to find almost-good settings for DOSBox with my new computer, it's always with a slight "late response" of the cars compared to pure DOS. Which is a handicap, especially for corner speed.
Exact, I'm happy I'm not the only one to feel it. I suffer it when I've to prepar for a dangerous turn.
Posted by Krys TOFF
 - December 21, 2007, 10:25:17 AM
I can only agree : even if I managed to find almost-good settings for DOSBox with my new computer, it's always with a slight "late response" of the cars compared to pure DOS. Which is a handicap, especially for corner speed.
Posted by Simon82
 - December 20, 2007, 03:02:36 PM
Quote from: zaqrack on December 20, 2007, 11:46:12 AM
can your computer boot from an USB flash drive? I plan to prepare a Stunts USB boot drive image.
This is the first thing I've thoke to but not every pc can do it. I've a Mac Mini and with Bootcamp I don't know if it's possible. I've spare computer here and there but It would be good to have it on a usb key and surely easy to do. Just the boot drivers on it are a little tricky to install the first time.

To Duplope:
Try and you'll see that something change in better, obviously being a native environment. I thinki Dosbox fit in a layer in wich it's inserted a millisecond lag I've the unluck to feel of. Maybe I'm the only "robot".. surely I'm a passionated of the accuracy of every reproduction, talking about both dosbox or emulators.
Posted by Duplode
 - December 20, 2007, 12:30:59 PM
Quote from: Simon82 on December 20, 2007, 09:13:00 AM
Don't you see a little difference in response time when press a command? I'm talking about millisecod but it is something I can feel. When you play on a real system you see it's better.

Actually I want to check that out - so much time has passed since I last played under pure DOS that I can't remember how it was anymore  :-[. I'm up to reformat into FAT32 a spare partition lying in one of my HDs, make it bootable and move the Stunts stuff there, but currently I feel a bit lazy...

Quote from: zaqrack on December 20, 2007, 11:46:12 AM
can your computer boot from an USB flash drive? I plan to prepare a Stunts USB boot drive image.

If there is a way to use it without formatting my pendrive I might consider that oprion too! ;)
Posted by zaqrack
 - December 20, 2007, 11:46:12 AM
can your computer boot from an USB flash drive? I plan to prepare a Stunts USB boot drive image.
Posted by Simon82
 - December 20, 2007, 09:13:00 AM
Quote from: Duplode on December 19, 2007, 09:53:35 PM
Quote from: Simon82 on December 19, 2007, 09:22:06 PM
I don't know why but it seems something different from a real system with dosbox. It loose some frame in the complex situation.. even with high cpu cycle.

Then you might wish to reduce a bit the cycles (too high can cause slow down as well), or maybe turn on dynamic CPU on.
Don't you see a little difference in response time when press a command? I'm talking about millisecod but it is something I can feel. When you play on a real system you see it's better.
Posted by Duplode
 - December 19, 2007, 09:53:35 PM
Quote from: Simon82 on December 19, 2007, 09:22:06 PM
I don't know why but it seems something different from a real system with dosbox. It loose some frame in the complex situation.. even with high cpu cycle.

Then you might wish to reduce a bit the cycles (too high can cause slow down as well), or maybe turn on dynamic CPU on.
Posted by Simon82
 - December 19, 2007, 09:22:06 PM
Quote from: zaqrack on December 19, 2007, 04:20:21 PM
I had a trusty old P-133 for just playing Stunts - it worked like a charm. Since I have my new laptop (1,2Ghz Pentium-M), Stunts under Dosbox (and linux) runs as perfect as in native mode. I had to enable dosbox's dynamic core, no other config changes were necessary. (overlay 3x display mode in window almost fills the whole screen, perfect)

I don't know why but it seems something different from a real system with dosbox. It loose some frame in the complex situation.. even with high cpu cycle.
Posted by zaqrack
 - December 19, 2007, 04:20:21 PM
I had a trusty old P-133 for just playing Stunts - it worked like a charm. Since I have my new laptop (1,2Ghz Pentium-M), Stunts under Dosbox (and linux) runs as perfect as in native mode. I had to enable dosbox's dynamic core, no other config changes were necessary. (overlay 3x display mode in window almost fills the whole screen, perfect)