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Title: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: BonzaiJoe on August 13, 2008, 08:10:55 PM
After some years, I am beginning to feel curious about what kind of person you are? You post almost only in racing subforums and about replays and tricks, but never in chat forums!
Where in Italy are you from? What do you like to do when you don't play Stunts, what's do you work with and do you have kids? Would you like to come to WSM someday?
Fill us in! You are a top pipsqueak and strong community member, we need to feel like you're our friend :)

Cheers!
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: CTG on August 13, 2008, 08:11:34 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on August 13, 2008, 08:10:55 PM
After some years, I am beginning to feel curious about what kind of person you are? You post almost only in racing subforums and about replays and tricks, but never in chat forums!
Where in Italy are you from? What do you like to do when you don't play Stunts, what's do you work with and do you have kids? Would you like to come to WSM someday?
Fill us in! You are a top pipsqueak and strong community member, we need to feel like you're our friend :)

Cheers!

Argammon's ghost.

Kidding. Or not.
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: Mark L. Rivers on August 14, 2008, 03:47:36 PM

First of all, thanks to have described me a top driver. It's a pleasure hear it, above all from a great champion as you are. Even if I sincerely think there's a quite high number of drivers stronger than me.

About my presence in the community, well, I have to say that when I joined almost three years ago in Stunts racing on the web, I have thought not to be so active in the Forum. Better, for several months I had not register myself on it, and I did it only when I had to communicate with a driver about a result.

As I told Krys (at spring 2006) when he for the first time invited me to join in his team, my life is really busy. I'm almost 40 years old and I work full-time with quite heavy responsabilities in a customer service center in Milan. Moreover, with my wife and many other friends I'm engaged in a voluntary service with a local community that absorbs a large part of our time. So I succeed to find some time to race in very short moments of the week (except during my holidays, obviously if I'm at home...), dividing also my free time between bicycle, music and, sure, Stunts.
I told Krys that all this would have made impossible for me joining in another community, even if on the web, specifying that for joining I consider exchanging 360 degrees thoughts, cultivating friendships, having a sort of parallel life in add to all the rest.
So, joining in a community is for me a thing that demands a lot of time, absorbing hours and hours that I really have not. And I don't like to make the things half and half, thinking also that I will have less and less free time to spend.

I know very well that replying in many topics mean creating many links with other members and this unavoidably would increase the time I should spend to express my thoughts, so not to appear disinterested or ungentle. Or, more probably, this would increase my wish to express my thoughts, detracting a lot of time from my family, friends and also from other activities, really important for others.
Moreover, my English is not very fluent and I have to dedicate more time than many others to formulate my phrases so to express exactly what I want to say.

In order of all this, I set up my join to Stunts world on the web as pure racing, the reason that brought me to discover this little world. I like the taste of the challenge, and the races in almost all sports are really a passion for me.
So I like to consider all you as fellows as it would be possible to meet if we were opponents in a real sport. Not very much time for relationships out of the race, but a sane and fair challenge on the tracks, a thing that could bring to appreciate each other for our ability. But not only this.
Because this little world is a lot more special than we could find in whatever other context. Because what brought to encountered us has been the passion for something special, the passion for a game as there's not the same.

Retrieving the message I sent to Krys when I told him about my position on community, I want to report some words, thinking I couldn't find better ones to express what I think about this game:

"I always liked to play with car toys. And since 1982, I always played with car pc-games (maybe the first was "Pole Position" with my Commodore 64.....). Then Stunts arrived and it has been a great love which still brings me to play when I can.
It's an historical game, a game without violence, weapons, cruelty and every kind of iniquities which are present in many actual games. Its semplicity and design, its imperfections, make it at my eyes like a pure and genuine game, like a teddybear, a doll or tinplate truck, an old toy able to transmit the good sensations about a time which won't come back.
Stunts is not a way of life for me, but a way to extend, even if only for short periods, my youth and the life of the boy inside me, a temporary breakaway from the wonted responsabilities of the life, like a recreation period in the life's school.
Stunts racing on the web has renovated in me the desire not to forget this wonderful game and to extend its life permitting to others to keep attached to a sane game, without follow the decadent line of the actual games, without follow the decadent line of the world."



I think that Stunts is a game that make all of us (maybe not really all of us, but sure someone of us) linked by a particular way to see the life, appreciating the past, the simplicity, cultivating the children inside us, independently from our age. This, I think, makes so special this community.

And even if I think I'll never have the possibility to participate in a WSM, I'm happy to having this experience "fighting" with you in this absolutely extraordinary little great world.
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: AbuRaf70 on August 15, 2008, 01:09:10 AM
Me siento identificado con todo lo que expresa Mark...

A esa edad, 40 años, se tienen muchos compromisos que cumplir...  trabajo, familia, relaciones sociales, etc.

Particularmente, me hubiese sido imposible participar de carreras de Stunts cuando trabajaba ya que lleva mucho tiempo...  cuando me jubilé y teniendo 70 años, pude integrarme a esta tan hermosa comunidad que practica el Stunts, que como dice Mark, no tiene nada de violencia, sino de saludable ingenio para ir mejorando día tras día...

Ojalá dure mucho tiempo más, para seguir disfrutando de ella...
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: JTK on August 15, 2008, 09:31:12 AM
Quote from: Mark L. Rivers on August 14, 2008, 03:47:36 PM

I'm almost 40 years old (...)


Aah - another "Oldie". You, Krys and me should join the first 40s Club on Stunts Community in some years (in two for me, actually). 8)
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: Chulk on August 16, 2008, 01:14:25 AM
Quote from: JTK on August 15, 2008, 09:31:12 AM
Quote from: Mark L. Rivers on August 14, 2008, 03:47:36 PM

I'm almost 40 years old (...)


Aah - another "Oldie". You, Krys and me should join the first 40s Club on Stunts Community in some years (in two for me, actually). 8)
Aburaf will be alone in his club for a long time...
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: AbuRaf70 on August 17, 2008, 12:35:48 AM
Lo bueno del Stunts, es que Uds. me aceptan "en sus clubes", no importando mi edad... ;)
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: JTK on August 18, 2008, 09:32:55 AM
 :D :D

So here's the ranking:

1. AbuRaf70

2. KrysTOFF, Mark L. Rivers, JTK

5. the rest

;D
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: CTG on August 29, 2012, 09:46:10 AM
Daffy Duck is already an adult (June 1994)! :o

It's so weird to realize that I am already older than JTK was when he started to play in competitions.
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: Chulk on August 29, 2012, 05:10:45 PM
Quote from: CTG on August 29, 2012, 09:46:10 AM
Daffy Duck is already an adult (June 1994)! :o

It's so weird to realize that I am already older than JTK was when he started to play in competitions.
You're old!!!
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: CTG on August 29, 2012, 08:00:11 PM
Quote from: Chulk on August 29, 2012, 05:10:45 PM
Quote from: CTG on August 29, 2012, 09:46:10 AM
Daffy Duck is already an adult (June 1994)! :o

It's so weird to realize that I am already older than JTK was when he started to play in competitions.
You're old!!!

Yes...  :-[
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: Chulk on August 30, 2012, 06:34:07 AM
After I wrote that I started thinking... from which age on do we consider people 'old'?
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: CTG on August 30, 2012, 08:23:20 AM
Several years ago I though the parts of life can be easily separated: 0-30 is young, 30-60 could be called as middle age, over 60 is old. Now, close to 30... well... I had to reconsider this. On one hand, somebody can be a big child even at the age of 50 (just think on the horny Frenchman). On the other hand, I feel myself too old for my real age because of my bad physical and psychological condition. However, my behaviour is usually childish. ;D

You mustn't say a certain age for getting old.
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: JTK on August 30, 2012, 08:36:53 AM
Krys ist not 50!! (Yet)!!! :o
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: CTG on August 30, 2012, 08:56:15 AM
Quote from: JTK on August 30, 2012, 08:36:53 AM
Krys ist not 50!! (Yet)!!! :o

But getting closer and closer... ;D
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: CTG on August 30, 2012, 09:10:23 AM
This year:

77 - AbuRaf70 (check the photos of the young Anelio at Facebook, probably from the '60s or '70s)
50 - Sergio Baro (LOL, the son took the second place)
43 - Mark L. Rivers
42 - JTK, Krys Toff
37 - Alain
36 - KHR
35 - Bismarck, Gutix
34 - Mingva
33 - satanziege, Vamologocomisso
32 - Alan Rotoi
31 - Ayrton, Dark Chaser, Mislav, Zak McKracken
30 - Paleke, Usrin, XDude_NL
29 - Akoss Poo, CTG, Diesel Joe, Doelloos, Leo Ramone, Pershing II
27 - Bonzai Joe, Chulk, Dinmor, Roy Wiegerinck
25 - Lise, Overdrijf, Renato Biker
24 - Duplode, Super Brian
23 - Friker
19 - Lene
18 - Daffy Duck
15 - Tweety Bird
13 - Marci
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: BonzaiJoe on August 30, 2012, 09:54:02 AM
Age when Stunts was released:

55 - AbuRaf70
28 - Sergio Baro
21 - Mark L. Rivers
20 - JTK, Krys Toff
15 - Alain
14 - KHR
13 - Bismarck, Gutix
12 - Mingva
11 - satanziege, Vamologocomisso
10 - Alan Rotoi
9 - Ayrton, Dark Chaser, Mislav
8 - Paleke, Usrin, XDude_NL, Zak McKracken
7 - Akoss Poo, CTG, Diesel Joe, Doelloos, Leo Ramone, Pershing II
5 - Bonzai Joe, Chulk, Dinmor
4 - Roy Wiegerinck
3 - Lise, Overdrijf, Renato Biker
2 - Duplode, Super Brian
1 - Friker
(-3) - Lene
(-4) - Daffy Duck
(-7) - Tweety Bird
(-9) - Marci
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: CTG on August 30, 2012, 10:08:38 AM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on August 30, 2012, 09:54:02 AM
Age when Stunts was released:

55 - AbuRaf70
28 - Sergio Baro
21 - Mark L. Rivers
20 - JTK, Krys Toff
15 - Alain
14 - KHR
13 - Bismarck, Gutix
12 - Mingva
11 - satanziege, Vamologocomisso
10 - Alan Rotoi
9 - Ayrton, Dark Chaser, Mislav
8 - Paleke, Usrin, XDude_NL, Zak McKracken
7 - Akoss Poo, CTG, Diesel Joe, Doelloos, Leo Ramone, Pershing II
5 - Bonzai Joe, Chulk, Dinmor
4 - Roy Wiegerinck
3 - Lise, Overdrijf, Renato Biker
2 - Duplode, Super Brian
1 - Friker
(-3) - Lene
(-4) - Daffy Duck
(-7) - Tweety Bird
(-9) - Marci


I wonder what did the pipsqueaks do on that certain day when Stunts was released. Maybe Friker crapped in the pamper, Bonzai Joe cried because somebody took his matchbox in the kindergarten, Akoss Poo was punished by his parents because of damning in the school, Alain celebrated his 500th jerk off with left hand, Krys stared the boobs of 74 different chicks and AbuRaf had a nice steak and a bottle of red wine with Sergio Baro after a long workday.
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on August 30, 2012, 01:09:13 PM
Akoss Poo celebrated his birthday, that's sure.  ;D
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: BonzaiJoe on August 30, 2012, 03:49:33 PM
Quote from: CTG on August 30, 2012, 10:08:38 AM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on August 30, 2012, 09:54:02 AM
Age when Stunts was released:

55 - AbuRaf70
28 - Sergio Baro
21 - Mark L. Rivers
20 - JTK, Krys Toff
15 - Alain
14 - KHR
13 - Bismarck, Gutix
12 - Mingva
11 - satanziege, Vamologocomisso
10 - Alan Rotoi
9 - Ayrton, Dark Chaser, Mislav
8 - Paleke, Usrin, XDude_NL, Zak McKracken
7 - Akoss Poo, CTG, Diesel Joe, Doelloos, Leo Ramone, Pershing II
5 - Bonzai Joe, Chulk, Dinmor
4 - Roy Wiegerinck
3 - Lise, Overdrijf, Renato Biker
2 - Duplode, Super Brian
1 - Friker
(-3) - Lene
(-4) - Daffy Duck
(-7) - Tweety Bird
(-9) - Marci


I wonder what did the pipsqueaks do on that certain day when Stunts was released. Maybe Friker crapped in the pamper, Bonzai Joe cried because somebody took his matchbox in the kindergarten, Akoss Poo was punished by his parents because of damning in the school, Alain celebrated his 500th jerk off with left hand, Krys stared the boobs of 74 different chicks and AbuRaf had a nice steak and a bottle of red wine with Sergio Baro after a long workday.

We shall never know. But all those options seem reasonably likely.
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: zaqrack on August 30, 2012, 04:25:03 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on August 30, 2012, 03:49:33 PM

We shall never know. But all those options seem reasonably likely.

Strange how technology changes life. I can now look back my photo archive and blog posts and most likely exactly rememebr what I did on a specific day - or at least have a strong clue.
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: CTG on August 31, 2012, 08:48:54 AM
Quote from: zaqrack on August 30, 2012, 04:25:03 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on August 30, 2012, 03:49:33 PM

We shall never know. But all those options seem reasonably likely.

Strange how technology changes life. I can now look back my photo archive and blog posts and most likely exactly rememebr what I did on a specific day - or at least have a strong clue.

Unless you wrote a diary on paper, like Akoss (or me). The good old 90s!
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: BonzaiJoe on August 31, 2012, 09:18:10 AM
We are and will always be the last generation who can remember life before the internet. I think that's what's going to be most interesting about us when we're old.
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: CTG on September 05, 2012, 08:37:16 AM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on August 31, 2012, 09:18:10 AM
We are and will always be the last generation who can remember life before the internet. I think that's what's going to be most interesting about us when we're old.

We won't survive our middle age.
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: BonzaiJoe on September 05, 2012, 11:03:49 AM
What's going to kill us?
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: CTG on February 28, 2013, 09:04:00 AM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 05, 2012, 11:03:49 AM
What's going to kill us?

Alcohol? ;D
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: Chulk on February 28, 2013, 03:21:38 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 05, 2012, 11:03:49 AM
What's going to kill us?
North Korea + China  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: CTG on February 28, 2013, 03:24:50 PM
Quote from: Chulk on February 28, 2013, 03:21:38 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on September 05, 2012, 11:03:49 AM
What's going to kill us?
North Korea + China  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

China / North Korea won't ever touch South America. Why would they do that?
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: Chulk on February 28, 2013, 03:29:27 PM
BJ asked what would kill YOU. I was never a part of that "us", suckers!
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: CTG on February 28, 2013, 03:31:46 PM
Quote from: Chulk on February 28, 2013, 03:29:27 PM
BJ asked what would kill YOU. I was never a part of that "us", suckers!

Nice touch. Anyway, my rage will kill you. :D
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: alanrotoi on February 28, 2013, 04:22:37 PM
If we die thanks to China is because their many many many bad and cheap toys and other stuff.
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: zaqrack on February 28, 2013, 04:43:17 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on February 28, 2013, 04:22:37 PM
If we die thanks to China is because their many many many bad and cheap toys and other stuff.

except me, I will die from air pollution before that :)
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: Chulk on February 28, 2013, 04:55:27 PM
Quote from: zaqrack on February 28, 2013, 04:43:17 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on February 28, 2013, 04:22:37 PM
If we die thanks to China is because their many many many bad and cheap toys and other stuff.

except me, I will die from air pollution before that :)
That'll kill Mexican first, don't worry
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: alanrotoi on February 28, 2013, 04:57:19 PM
No, they will die because their droug gangsters affair first. :(
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: BonzaiJoe on February 28, 2013, 06:41:09 PM
China is mainly dangerous to Chinese people (because of air pollution). They're not going to waste any resources killing Europeans.
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: Chulk on February 28, 2013, 07:51:49 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on February 28, 2013, 06:41:09 PM
China is mainly dangerous to Chinese people (because of air pollution). They're not going to waste any resources killing Europeans.
Of course not!! China takes on USA and North Korea takes on Europe (hopefully leaving Russia and Czech untouched, we don't want their beauties wasted ;) )
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: Friker on February 28, 2013, 09:30:48 PM
Quote from: Chulk on February 28, 2013, 07:51:49 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on February 28, 2013, 06:41:09 PM
China is mainly dangerous to Chinese people (because of air pollution). They're not going to waste any resources killing Europeans.
Of course not!! China takes on USA and North Korea takes on Europe (hopefully leaving Russia and Czech untouched, we don't want their beauties wasted ;) )
ehm.. did you hear about Slovakia?
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: alanrotoi on February 28, 2013, 10:19:22 PM
I love Argentinian girls, this melting of races is awesome :D
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: Friker on February 28, 2013, 10:36:27 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on February 28, 2013, 10:19:22 PM
I love Argentinian girls, this melting of races is awesome :D
hmm.. talking about Argentinian asses in topic dedicated to MLR.. feel strange :)
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: alanrotoi on February 28, 2013, 10:41:37 PM
There are a lot of Italian descendant here, so it's not that strange XD
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: Chulk on February 28, 2013, 10:49:11 PM
Quote from: Friker on February 28, 2013, 09:30:48 PM
Quote from: Chulk on February 28, 2013, 07:51:49 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on February 28, 2013, 06:41:09 PM
China is mainly dangerous to Chinese people (because of air pollution). They're not going to waste any resources killing Europeans.
Of course not!! China takes on USA and North Korea takes on Europe (hopefully leaving Russia and Czech untouched, we don't want their beauties wasted ;) )
ehm.. did you hear about Slovakia?
Oh, yeah!!

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FibWlHi0ATo/TV9oYmw6GAI/AAAAAAAAABU/d0sPjdWUjMg/s1600/Adriana-Sklenarikova-4.jpg)

Eastern (better said Central) European chicks are right behind Russian in my list of chicks. So we should keep everything from GMT to East untouched.
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: zaqrack on March 01, 2013, 02:35:17 AM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on February 28, 2013, 06:41:09 PM
China is mainly dangerous to Chinese people (because of air pollution). They're not going to waste any resources killing Europeans.

and expats in China  >:(
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: Chulk on March 01, 2013, 03:46:13 AM
Quote from: zaqrack on March 01, 2013, 02:35:17 AM
and expats in China  >:(
Sorry, expats? What is that?
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: zaqrack on March 01, 2013, 04:43:45 AM
expatriates, foreigners living in a country other than their homeland, usually temporarily. 
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: Chulk on March 01, 2013, 05:33:46 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: BonzaiJoe on March 01, 2013, 08:54:00 AM
Good point. So maybe their evil world domination strategy could be to take in great streams of expatriates and have them die from air pollution, all the while exporting all their own people to the cleanest places in the world.
Title: Re: Mark L. Rivers
Post by: Chulk on March 01, 2013, 01:59:12 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on March 01, 2013, 08:54:00 AM
all the while exporting all their own people to the cleanest places in the world...
And creating a monopoly of supermarkets there ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D