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ZakStunts - the Competition => General Chat - ZSC => Topic started by: CTG on June 16, 2003, 12:50:37 AM

Poll
Question: Stunts world changed a lot on the top. But why?
Option 1: Bonzai Joe is tired votes: 6
Option 2: Rotoi lost motivation votes: 2
Option 3: ZakStunts and USC is not a challenge for top drivers anymore votes: 0
Option 4: Alain is getting better and better every month votes: 5
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: CTG on June 16, 2003, 12:50:37 AM
Stunts world changed a lot in the last three month! In March most of us would say that it's almost impossible to beat Rotoi and Bonzai Joe. And now look at the scoreboards of ZakStunts or USC: new star is shining called Alain il professore! I think he can be the new Nailwood/Inavoeg/Fdrzieva/Roy/Bonzai Joe/Rotoi of Stunts world. And what's YOUR opinion?
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: BonzaiJoe on June 17, 2003, 07:50:29 PM
Well... can you guess my opinion? :D
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: RetiredArga on June 17, 2003, 11:16:09 PM
Can you please stop talking about pipsqueaks you don't know?
Like Nailwood and even the others?

There are a couple of pipsqueaks who can drive a great time if they spend enough effort possibly including BJ,Alain,Arga,Rotoi and Akoss

All the superstar talk is BS
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: alanrotoi on June 18, 2003, 05:48:02 AM
I agree and I would like to add Mingva, XDude_NL, pArAnO, Zak and Krys.

I hope you are our Argy, because I don't like the unknown guests...
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: Mingva on June 18, 2003, 08:56:27 AM
QuoteI would like to add Mingva,
No, please don't add me to Stunts "Hall of Fame". I'm not worth it :roll:

QuoteCan you please stop talking about pipsqueaks you don't know?
Why? Who can forbid to talk about great pipsqueaks? btw, we don't speak about his personality or what he wears/eats. We know only his results (which you can find at sites of closed competitions), and it's enough to know how great he was.

QuoteAll the superstar talk is BS
But Nailwood really was the superstar few years ago :P And his results was a bit impressive. So why we cann't compare nowadays pipsqueaks with him or another Stunts legend?

P.S. Retired Argy? Hey, come on!!! If you stopped to race, give a message to Orion headquarters :evil: I don't like persons with such behavior :x
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: BonzaiJoe on June 18, 2003, 11:06:21 AM
Hey, I know Mark Nailwood, I know what he wears and how he talks, and when he sends his replays! (a bad decoy replay at the beginning and a super replay at the end of the month). I also know that I am definitely stronger than him. You all overestimate him :D I've done some serious research, and found that the two strongers drivers in Stunts history are:

CAP and Alan Rotoi

The next group is:

Bonzai Joe and Roy Wiegerinck

Then Mark Nailwood, then Fdzierva. Inavoeg is not even as good as most of the current pipsqueaks. He would get 4th-6th places here.

You may say it's just my opinion, but I've been seriously trying to find out by driving old CTRACKS and comparing replays and such...
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: Unknown Guest on June 18, 2003, 11:17:33 AM
CAP and Alan Rotoi

The next group is:

Bonzai Joe and Roy Wiegerinck

Then Mark Nailwood, then Fdzierva. Inavoeg is not even as good as most of the current pipsqueaks. He would get 4th-6th places here.

AHAHAH!
Come on! I bet a lot of pipsqueaks could beat your winning times after knowing the result or even watching the replays.
Fdzierva is a loser,forget him.And Bonzai Joe is no better than place 15 overall.
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: Alain il professore on June 18, 2003, 11:51:09 AM
about the winning ratio, its a different thing, we cant avoid saying nailwood will remain the best forever, because its impossible to be constant like him with nowadays pro level. i will compare nailwood performances to a talented and hanging on amateur between the amateurs of its time.


ok my real opinion about this magic we all run after here...

The magic show, the great flying circus, the stunts time!

its all about one minute and fifty maximum of an ejaculating replay, only happening every six month in one single person, and twice a year in a group of ten TOP pipsqueaks. (only two top pipsqueaks can rarely be in shape at the same time, three if we very lucky)

I lived those pieces of great moments, i must admit, five times. Nailwood or CAP, without the huge respect they deserve were the paleoracers, the prehistoric ones, who could not match with nowadays pipsqueaks, seriously. the TRICKS they risked their car into were not shiny and terrific. But those five rpls were. those five black magic rpls happened in the last twelve months!

THE MAGIC YEAR!

To Every pipsqueak! Just download and watch

1.july/august alanrotoi zack 16 acura best combo trick/shortcuts, Damn he had two months to complete this masterpiece,

2.november 2002 zack 19 countach helluva ride by 'you know who'

3.Alain on debrecen
4.Alain on eger
5.Alain on fehervar (those three rpls need to be studied! if you do, i will pass you the magic i found in others, they are copyleft!!!)

then consider this rpl too:

6. Roy on zack plus one. Possibly the first bon appetit rpl, the one that influenced the 2002 generation the most.

It came from one thing: they had guts, they were proud, and they played all together.

I feel blessed because i lived their finest hour.
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: BonzaiJoe on June 18, 2003, 02:42:34 PM
Of course most of that post is true, but not the first part :D
It's true that I knew the winning time of all the replays, but I had only watched one of them (mind you I beat all of his winning times). But I didn't take a month to do my replays, most of them took 30 minutes or so! So compared to the competition of that day, Mark Nailwood was incredibly strong, but compared to these days, he wouldn't win that much. It's also hard to say about CAP. His Kalpen winners were stronger, and his ISA replays were divine too, but he NEVER raced any other car than the Porsche March/INDY, so he probably doesn't have all-round skills.  So that just leaves Alan Rotoi, who drives every car and any kind of rules, and wins.
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: Alain il professore on June 18, 2003, 08:07:58 PM
yes me too!
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: Alain il professore on June 18, 2003, 08:10:23 PM
i mean i had a problem too, i couldnt play more than fifty minutes on IRC dublin, because i dont like stunts, so i only play fifty minutes a month :)
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: YourMaster on June 20, 2003, 10:20:52 AM
Hey stuntsers!
Telling everyone about how good you are won't make it more true.
And telling everyone your gay friend is one of the best does not make it more true.
And telling everyone some grandpa pipsqueak is the best of all does not make it more true.

Get real community.
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: BonzaiJoe on June 20, 2003, 11:38:00 AM
Driving old CTRACKs and comparing replays does make it more true....
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: BonzaiJoe on June 20, 2003, 11:38:57 AM
And we all know who you are, Argammon
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: Alain il professore on June 20, 2003, 06:17:27 PM
sorry!

its one year i speak against all odds, against all opponents, and,

it make it come true! I WON ZAKSTUNTS COMPETITION!!! its written fowever now...

Orion lead all month on the scoreboard, and orion won the competition... if some of the best readers and participants of this forum can find it, i promised that somewhere here on this forum or there on the old one. So... A dream came true :)
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: Argy on June 24, 2003, 11:13:08 PM
Hold your tongue Bonzai.
The only post I made here was as 'retired arga'
I don't know who did the others but I agree on the fact you overjudge your self if that word would exist in the english language :)

Greetings
-Arga
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: Alain il professore on June 25, 2003, 07:32:42 AM
i am waiting for the returned arga. :( hope its soon you fix your comp.
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: BonzaiJoe on June 30, 2003, 12:42:45 PM
Well I'm sorry about that, it looked like you :D
You can all easily say I overestimate myself, but arguments would help your case :D - my replays are better than Mark Nailwood's, but he's still somehow a better driver? Because he did his replays before me? say something...
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: alanrotoi on June 30, 2003, 06:27:31 PM
Do he knows Nailwood? 8)
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: Alain il professore on June 30, 2003, 07:15:56 PM
soon the stunts valhalla eda will teach everystunts pipsqueaks the mythology to become a great nation. Follow the manga on www.stuntsrus.fr.st.
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: Argy on July 02, 2003, 11:04:41 AM
I am not playing stunts anymore at the time being: lack of motivation.
As for Bonzai:
Give any serious pipsqueak only a lil bit of time and they should be able to beat any of your winning replays without any problem.

And let me add noone can confirm how long you needed to beat Nails replays.

I'm not racing for the overall competition but I will surely race for 1 or 2 'stage' wins this year where I will unsuspectedly come back and beat all the contenders for the overall victory :)

Greets
-Argy
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: Alain il professore on July 02, 2003, 04:29:29 PM
you are selfish to say that. I dont play for my wins... i play for orion.
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: BonzaiJoe on July 03, 2003, 11:13:18 PM
Of course I can't be sure, but remember I hadn't seen the winning replays (except CTRACK29), and it took less than half an hour to beat each of them. If you don't want to believe that, fine, I won't bother... what's the big deal with Mark Nailwood not being such a good pipsqueak as some people think he is?
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: Alain il professore on July 04, 2003, 08:46:13 AM
Mark Nailwood, no problem, he is the perfect god of our stunts valhalla. He earns so much victories that the way he did that doesnt matter for us. Only the first place counts.

So i am agreeing: Mark Nailwood is the best, and he won his races because he had a special talent that put him before other pipsqueaks more often than average.

When rains fall, earth is wet... whats the problem.

And OF COURSE, his replays seems like the average ones of akoss poo. But no saint generation of pipsqueak before ours did max out things like we could. We turned the thing to a professionnal rolling circus. Our times are not so perfects, but we drive like robots, and we master silly tricks they had no idea they could be used efficiently before, with their amateur minds. Now i do those tricks, i know the limits, I know this fine line can be reached, out there.

Good luck to the coming newbies :( they came at bad era. The era of professional manolita handling.
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: Alain il professore on July 04, 2003, 08:48:44 AM
did nailwood era know RH use? yes. But they used it like lazy kids who wanted to play. We use it to kill people.

"By reason or by force" Pinochean statement.
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: BonzaiJoe on July 04, 2003, 12:47:50 PM
Maybe, maybe not. But I agree about the maxing out and robots.
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: alanrotoi on July 04, 2003, 06:50:53 PM
(I'll rewrite this message, I did it yesterday but the computer rebooted :()
I said something like:
I don't know why they don't believe you Bonzai. I believe you. Maybe they need to race in a random Kalpen's track to see it by themself.
I raced in a Kalpen's track, I don't remember which one but when I finished I noticed that I was 3 secs faster than the 1st (Nailwood I guess).
The track ends with a Corkscrew up/down and two sharp corners to the right on water. It was the first try!
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: Alain il professore on July 04, 2003, 06:52:59 PM
congratulations for choosing a wonderful pipe job avatar :)
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: BonzaiJoe on July 04, 2003, 11:34:24 PM
That was Inavoeg's win. Try any other Kalpen track and you'll beat them too. Only CAP's seem hard to beat. Especially CTRACK31 and CTRACK33 I guess. I beat him on CTRACK30 though... but it's not really the same, because I had seen his winning replay from that track.
Title: heyo :)
Post by: YourMASTERArgy on July 07, 2003, 07:58:57 PM
Bonzai,
Imagine you would only be racing against Ctg,Bolo,Myron,Xdude etc etc etc

Do you think your final replays would be as good as if you would race vs  a serious racing rotoi,alain,arg,akoss?

I doubt it.Basically at some point your times might be done in 30 minutes as you knew you would win anyways.
Nail's problem at some point was he had no real enemies so he could send in rather mediocre replays to win.
I bet he would have been able to send better replays if necessary at some points...... and when cap came he probably lost motivation.....

For example my last replay was place 11 and I doubt it makes me a bad driver ;)
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: Alain il professore on July 07, 2003, 08:03:47 PM
ah ah ah ah ah and bonzai joe hides his z27 time, believing argammon wont send a time and alain will concentrate on IRC only

ah ah ah ah ah ah ah

ah ah ah aaha ahahaahhahahahhaahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: YourMASTERArgy on July 07, 2003, 09:42:22 PM
.... and it was 4 u too alain.
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: BonzaiJoe on July 07, 2003, 11:14:29 PM
Well tough luck for Mark Nailwood if it's not his fault that his replays were "not so good". That doesn't really make him a better driver. Maybe he could have been a better driver if he had driven more, (if more competition had made him drive more) but we can only guess at that, and so he isn't.
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: Argammon on July 08, 2003, 06:18:57 AM
PFFT would people please stop posting under my name!?!?!
I must be very popular :/
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: BonzaiJoe on July 08, 2003, 12:09:44 PM
Was the first post written by you or were none of them?
Title: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: Alain il professore on July 08, 2003, 06:43:01 PM
the answer is only in one tortured mind? Perhaps we never know
Title: Re: New Nailwood star on Stunts sky?
Post by: CTG on August 26, 2014, 12:39:32 PM
Quote from: YourMASTERArgy on July 07, 2003, 07:58:57 PM
Bonzai,
Imagine you would only be racing against Ctg,Bolo,Myron,Xdude etc etc etc

Do you think your final replays would be as good as if you would race vs  a serious racing rotoi,alain,arg,akoss?

I doubt it

Only? Check the results of the last 10 years, dickhole... :D