I am and have always been a big fan of leading time, as it secures that the race is alive during the whole month, and not just on the last day. But there is also a bad side of the LTB. It makes top drivers race their best in the beginning of the month, thereby making the top times on the scoreboard seem totally impossible and out of reach for newbies, thereby discouraging them to drive. I remember when I race the Kalpen competition in 2001, I was very excited because I could fight for the first place in the whole first half of the month, although I would end up 4th or 5th. So maybe an idea is to start leading time calculation 10 or 14 days into the month, so the scoreboard won't have to be completely unbelievable from the start.
Or being on 2nd place of the scoreboard should also mean 0,5 hours of leading time/hour, and on 3rd place: 0,25 hours of leading time/hour.
But I would also support Jacky's idea.
Wow, good idea from Akoss Poo!
Akoss' mentioned idea was discussed and turned down (mostly by Argammon & Co.).
Was it really? I thought it was a brilliant idea... and I thought the reason for its being turned down was that it was too hard to code in PHP. But I do remember Argammon complaining... but anyway my suggestion solves (partly) a different problem than Akoss', let's not have them mixed up.
Sorry folks but you completly got it wrong.
I didn't complain about that idea at all.(I even found it to be a good one)
Actually I didn't complain about anything I just suggested some things and gave the reason why I liked those ideas. And some of them are even implemented now.
Well that's great, then let's implement Akoss Poo's (or whoever it was) idea for flexible and motivating Leading time calculation.
Yep, maybe after exams, from next track, Zak could do it :) But then another situation can arise: in first week we'll have strong times not from 2-3 pipsqueaks like it's nowadays, but from 5-7 :shock:
That's why I made my suggestion - delayed leading time.
Great idea. If the competition is 20 days long it would be cool that leading time counter starts from day 10 :D
take a look at last year, the same kids won the same points. stop the leading time, now, regardless the gourmandise of the kids.
And what does that have to do with keeping the race alive on more than the last day of the month?
i truly think the leading time points only interested two persons last year and apparently didnt add any interest to the championship except for those two guys.
those drivers are not driven by these points. perhaps what you propose is relevant in a competition with more active people.
Strange but on this point I have to agree with Alain :X
:wink:
and its only an opinion, i will bow to the common choice of course. but i say it again: its funny to play for the points, and its funny for only two guys :)
Okay, so we agree that leading time makes the elite drivers race more, because they want points, so that they can get a better place in the championship. I am perfectly aware that most drivers couldn't care less about leading time because they never reach first place anyway, but just look at Krys Toff right now, who said he was racing for leading time, because he didn't get any next year. So leading time is good for a few people - why not keep it?
Secondly, as we've agreed that only the few best pipsqueaks who want to win the championship race for leading time, that means times will be very strong from the very start of the month. If two people like myself and Argammon battle for the leading time, we can push each other very far, and consequently get times that will discourage any newbie. Imagine coming to this site, seeing 55 second times on the scoreboard, racing and getting an 1.40 time. Then what's the point of coming back? That's why I suggest that leading time is delayed, so that the strongest drivers (meaning whoever feels that his time might discourage some newbies) hold back in the beginning of the month, making the scoreboard seem more human. And what's wrong with that idea?
Well, I want to say I aggree with BJ. But it may not be the perfect solution, because all top pipsqueaks will send their replays the same day and the same pipsqueaks will still have the points... Except if Damage Inc. can continue the good work. :D
I tried to fight and get leading points but failed so far.
It's not so important because one of my teammates managed to do it.
But we were too late, points are already decided : 1 for Argy, 2 for BJ.
at the moment CTG has almost 2 days more leading time than Arg.
Really ?
CTG could earn 1 bonus point ?
Good. :D
But the month isn't over and Argy can still send a new leading replay... :roll:
the idea of delaying is not worth it because you seem to believe that some are not able to do the same thing like others, that they are genetically weak. I proved myself to be a hard hitter because of smtg else than the talent, (what one can call live racing)
and that can be named the rage.
noone rage against nobody if its easy to achieve it :) lets forget leading time. I dont want a newbie to lose this year championship because of the points he didnt fight for in the early year.
Genetically weak? Well, you're the only one who has said that.
I have the weird idea that if you've played Stunts for 9 years and won competitions you may know a bit more and be a bit more experienced than someome who comes here for the first time.
Would you say anyone could become the world champion at chess in one month? Or football? Let's see you do it just with your rage...
Quote from: Akoss Poo on January 13, 2004, 11:29:52 AM
Or being on 2nd place of the scoreboard should also mean 0,5 hours of leading time/hour, and on 3rd place: 0,25 hours of leading time/hour.
LOL, that sounds familiar. So the real inventor of PTB was Akoss Poo...