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ZakStunts - the Competition => Competition Archive => Competition 2004 => Topic started by: Krys TOFF on November 18, 2004, 11:36:55 PM

Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: Krys TOFF on November 18, 2004, 11:36:55 PM
So far, Akoss and I made a proposal of track for ZCT 46.
Designed for indy.
Everyone can send a proposal unteil Z45's quiet days.

Here is the map of mine :
(http://imsacup.free.fr/Z46-Krys.gif)
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 19, 2004, 12:20:49 AM
I can only make a screenshot here, in Debrecen, I can only upload a file at home, in Kazincbarcika. I will put my track's map here tomorrow hopefully.

My track is harder and longer. The length of the track can decrease my chances, but as you can see, I don't want to win every track design contest. When I built my track, I said "well, this is a great track, I don't want to change anything about it, no matter if it is long. a good track would keep the drivers in front of the monitor, even if it's long"

So this is about my track in a nutshell.
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: Mingva on November 19, 2004, 06:35:00 PM
Don't forget for last track you'll have only 3 weeks, besides in christmas time. I don't think it's a good idea to use a long and hard track :?
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 19, 2004, 08:47:14 PM
For me a track is like a poem. When I start to design it, I don't know how long it would be. If it succeed to be long, it will stay long. It contains my thoughts, I can't remove any of the elements. Like you can't shorten a poem by some rows, just because you don't want to read 4 more rows, because you have -5 minutes less for it. I have the courage to leave my track as it was made: hard, long, good, and it expresses exactly what I wanted to say with it.
Title: lenght precision
Post by: Krys TOFF on November 20, 2004, 04:36:24 PM
Info : winning time for my track should be around 1:15 I think.
Title: another version of track map
Post by: Krys TOFF on November 20, 2004, 04:46:23 PM
Here is the game map for those who prefer it than TrackBlaster map. :wink:
(http://imsacup.free.fr/Z46Krys.gif)
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 22, 2004, 11:08:44 PM
(http://alvilag.hu/ctg/z46.jpg)

Here is my track!
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 22, 2004, 11:20:33 PM
(http://alvilag.hu/ctg/zct46poo.jpg)

The other screenshot
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: alanrotoi on November 23, 2004, 12:24:17 AM
The 1st seems a bit short but fast and the last seems very hard but long.
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: Krys TOFF on November 23, 2004, 10:22:36 AM
Another proposal someone ?
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: CTG on December 02, 2004, 03:37:15 AM
Ouch I just missed the track sending deadline - then I'll use it as Tihany track in UnskilledStunts. :)
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: CTG on December 02, 2004, 05:26:55 PM
I tested Akoss Poo's Z46:

- I must disagree with Alan (#1) - this track is not so long. My first complete lap with RH was around 1:45 and I'm sure winning time will be under 1:20.
- I must disagree with Alan (#2) - it isn't so hard. Okay, there are some damned tricky sections, but I made this lap under 20 minutes...

In overall: the track is very "delicious" for a real Stunts fan and it's good enough to be a ZSC track (what's more, a lot better then most of ZCT tracks this year).
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: alanrotoi on December 02, 2004, 09:35:23 PM
I only saw the screenshots  :oops:  :lol:
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: CTG on December 03, 2004, 03:13:55 AM
okay :)
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: Blind Ryan on December 03, 2004, 06:58:30 AM
I'm liking that second one.
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: Mingva on December 03, 2004, 06:54:47 PM
WHAT  :?:  :shock: :o  CTG already drove the potential future track?? But it's a tremendous disadvantage :?
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: CTG on December 03, 2004, 07:05:43 PM
Akoss: as I predicted few days ago... :)

Mingva:

1, shut up! :P
2, BJ also got the ZCT tracks earlier for analysis in the good old times
3, I won't be here in the last days of ZCT46 so it will compensate this advantage.
4, As you probably know I used to improve and find tricks in the second part of the month. This one was only a test.
5, Track maps are public (made by TrackEditor) so you can also build the tracks from them.
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: CTG on December 03, 2004, 07:08:24 PM
And what happens if Akoss Poo's track will win? Will you say Akoss has an advantage because he built it and he raced as many as he could on his own Z46? You are sooooooo ridicoulus...  :?
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: CTG on December 03, 2004, 07:11:24 PM
Anyway you must rather race on Sopron in USC - car is the Skoda, one of your favorites! ;)
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: Mingva on December 03, 2004, 08:17:24 PM
ok, I won't argue with the mighty Citizen of Chosen Nation :?

By the way, I was concerned not because of myself but because of -others-. Don't think, I'm not crying because you tested the track. No! I'm just interested why/how you got the track.
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: CTG on December 03, 2004, 08:22:33 PM
I got the track from Akoss Poo - and on the other hand I rebuilt Krys Toff's version... :)
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: CTG on December 03, 2004, 08:27:54 PM
Just to know: I asked the track for a fast test because Akoss wasn't sure it's easy enough to be a competition track.
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: alanrotoi on December 03, 2004, 08:47:31 PM
Ok already we know wich track won't be used :)
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 04, 2004, 10:15:08 PM
I made my track considering 3 things :
1/ car is indy, so powergear will be used, and so we should think about it when designing track.
2/ racing period will be shorter than usual time for a ZakStunts track, so it has to be quite short.
3/ Z45 was an elitist track, so next one has to be like easier to avoid people leaving ZakStunts due to too high level for beginners.

Now it's Zak's choice, I'll race track chosen, mine or not. :wink:
Title: Primer saludo...
Post by: AbuRaf70 on December 06, 2004, 01:37:31 AM
Hello...
My nick is AbuRaf70 and I have 70 years... :oops:
For invitation de Alan Rotoi, I visited this site and as to me liked, note me
to run I also...
Alrady I decreased ZCT 46...  now must prove it... :cry:
A great greeting to all... :wink:

I do not speak English - I use a translator...  :oops:
Title: Re: Primer saludo...
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 06, 2004, 08:17:03 PM
Quote from: "AbuRaf70"Hello...
My nick is AbuRaf70 and I have 70 years... :oops:
For invitation de Alan Rotoi, I visited this site and as to me liked, note me
to run I also...
Alrady I decreased ZCT 46...  now must prove it... :cry:
A great greeting to all... :wink:

I do not speak English - I use a translator...  :oops:

Welcome. Bienvenida :D
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: BonzaiJoe on December 07, 2004, 11:42:23 AM
Bienvenido en la competici?n, es siempre bueno ver a nuevos corredores! ¿Es usted realmente 70 años de viejo? Usted debe estar en buena salud, puesto que usted sabe todav?a jugar Stunts en un buen nivel. ¡Buena suerte! 8)
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: alanrotoi on December 08, 2004, 01:19:18 AM
Aburaf, si te suscrib?s en el foro ten?s una opci?n para cambiar el idioma del foro al castellano de Argentina (por supuesto no incluye los mensajes)
Title: AbuRaf70
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 08, 2004, 08:26:46 AM
Here is AbuRaf70 picture taken from 4DSL forum :
(http://www.lukaswebs.com/lacueva/foro/images/avatars/1912527970411408444bb06.jpg)
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: BonzaiJoe on December 08, 2004, 11:11:06 AM
Oh, obviously fake picture. I guess it's not so easy to play Stunts when you're 70 after all :D
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: Anonymous on December 08, 2004, 04:57:17 PM
Thanks to all by the welcome... :D

In spite thet BonzaiJoe not believes me, actually I have 70 years...

To ask Alan Rotoi that it knows me and group in their hits your competition :wink:
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: BonzaiJoe on December 08, 2004, 09:05:37 PM
I'm just saying that the picture is fake :D But never mind, Stunts is for everyone. Race to prove that 70 is the perfect age for a superb Stunts pipsqueak! I'm sure I'll be racing hard in Zakstunts 2055...
Title: Excuses...
Post by: AbuRaf70 on December 09, 2004, 05:21:13 PM
Embittered and ashamed ...   :evil:   :oops:

For mistake use the track ZCT 45 and send wrong the replay  :oops:

This alone passes to him/her/you to one of 70 years...   :(

I request excuses to Zak and to all the corridors...

I request to Zak that it remove my time from 2:02:00   :oops:

I will begin of new with ZCT 46..

Regards     AbuRaf70    :wink:
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: zaqrack on December 09, 2004, 05:45:54 PM
time removed, better luck next time! :)
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: alanrotoi on December 09, 2004, 10:59:49 PM
Man, I don't like this track! It is not for newbies or for "few trys" pipsqueaks. This is for an exaustive RH. I can't enjoy.

And I don't like that other pipsqueaks tested the track before it was published. It is not right and unfair. The designer is allowed to do it for obvious reasons :P
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: CTG on December 09, 2004, 11:13:12 PM
Alan, you collected a bad point... after 10 you will get a black point... after 10 black points you will get a blue point... after 10 blue points you will get a red point... after 10 red points you will get a bad point... :D

(freestyle version after Atta, master teacher of chemistry)
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: alanrotoi on December 09, 2004, 11:37:44 PM
:?:  :?: errr... ok :D :smt104

I think if people will race this track it will be only for the car. :(
Title: Time removed...
Post by: AbuRaf70 on December 10, 2004, 12:34:53 AM
Thank you very much, Zak...  :D
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: AbuRaf70 on December 10, 2004, 12:52:26 AM
Thanks Krys by presenting my photo of 4DSL...   :D

BonsaiJoe, in my photo the hull this in assembly photo but my face is of truth is of 70 years...   :D

Regards...   :wink:
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: Argammon on December 10, 2004, 11:34:28 PM
I must whoeheartly agree with Alan on 1)That it is VERY unfair that CTG raced the track before it got published and 2)About his opinion on the track.
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: alanrotoi on December 11, 2004, 05:26:14 AM
Quote from: "CTG"Just to know: I asked the track for a fast test because Akoss wasn't sure it's easy enough to be a competition track.

You must think we are stupid.
If he was not sure he could send the track to zak!
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: BonzaiJoe on December 11, 2004, 01:21:53 PM
I don't think CTG expects anyone to believe his lies... I agree it's ridiculous that CTG got the track before us, but it's just a game... Maybe there are prizes, but CTG is too slow to win one, so never mind.
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: alanrotoi on December 12, 2004, 10:30:55 AM
Ok I hope it wasn't true. I hate cheats and lies.
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: al il professore on December 12, 2004, 11:17:02 AM
who cares about cheats and lies? when we are dead and gone?

let them speak, let them do. ctg is a stunts hero, he won the last race. did you see his replay? its wonderful.

but i doubt a wacky rpl from me,  alanrotoi or argammon would have been slower than CTG's :)
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: alanrotoi on December 14, 2004, 07:18:45 PM
Excellent fight between Caesar, AbuRaf and Dinnor!!
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: CTG on December 14, 2004, 08:41:12 PM
Nice close match on top 2-5 places:

2 CTG Damage Inc.  1:28.65 manual 12-14   16:10 16
3 Bonzai Joe Cork`s Crew  1:28.70 manual 12-12   01:50 14
4 Stunts Oracle MeganiuM Aces High  1:28.75 manual 12-10   07:57 12
5 Zak McKracken Cork`s Crew  1:28.80 manual 12-10   15:31 10
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: alanrotoi on December 14, 2004, 09:59:04 PM
I don't know the others but zak's and mine are really our best. That's very interesting.
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: Dinmor on December 14, 2004, 11:17:21 PM
Quote from: "alanrotoi"Excellent fight between Caesar, AbuRaf and Dinnor!!

Thank you..

Mind you, I will win it.  :twisted:
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: CTG on December 14, 2004, 11:55:40 PM
my best is 1:28.65 at the moment
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: alanrotoi on December 15, 2004, 12:31:48 AM
You can try Dinnor but remember AbuRaf is racing hard!
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: AbuRaf70 on December 15, 2004, 04:24:47 AM
Alan...

Thank you very much, by the faith that me you have... :D
Title: ZCT 46 tracks proposal
Post by: al il professore on December 15, 2004, 08:15:39 PM
alanrotoi always bet on the good cars