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Title: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on March 08, 2008, 11:17:35 PM
I don't know if you ever heard of this, but I discovered it today.
Name is BATRacer (http://batracer.com/-1FrontPage.htm?Jlr).

Goal is (once logged in) to play as a driver in one championship : F1 2007, F1 1986, A1GP, ChampCar, BTCC, ...
You set up your car, choose race strategy, then game engine do the race. This a sort of F1 (or other categories) manager.

I registered today and joined a BTCC championship in production category. You can still join it as there's not the full number of players at the moment I write this message.
You don't have to stay online, game starts automatically when number of pipsqueaks is complete.
Usually, once started it seems 1 championship lasts 1 race per day.
If you don't log in for 3 consecutive days, you can be fired of the championship though. Join a game when you're sure to ba able to spent around 15 minutes per day to it (car setup, tests, qualifications, ...).
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on March 14, 2008, 12:12:02 PM
So, nobody interested ? ::)

For info, after 6 days you are allowed to join a 2nd game as a "mid-season" replacement.
I joined a F1 championship (2007 style) today on a Renault car, only 1 race has been made so it will be almost a complete season. :)

I got a podium on my 1st race at BTCC, but finished only 8th at the second : the rain appeared in the middle of the race and my setup was therefore incorrect, and I adjusted bad the "change tyres when on wrong type", so I stayed on the track with slick tyres for 5 laps before changing my tyres. This is where I lost a promising 2nd podium in a row... :-\
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on March 14, 2008, 01:30:54 PM
I'm playing! On touring I finished 11th and 5th so far. First race I made a mistake in my 2nd qualy lap...  :-\
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on March 14, 2008, 05:19:14 PM
Cool, we should try to race together the same game some day. what is your sIf you raced 2 races already, then you should soon be available to join a mid-season game.
Then, try to join the game 24482 (game/join mid-season/enter game id) if there are available places : this is the mid-season F1 game I joined after the 1st race was done. We could race the same championship this way. :)
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on April 10, 2008, 11:45:56 AM
The partner I have in my mid-season F1 2007 game is just crappy and stupid.
Hopefully, I have better partners on my BTCC regular champ and my ChampCar private game.

I'm enjoying more the ChampCar so far, races are more strategic due to often safety cars and high number of laps (especially on oval races). I got my 1st victory in this ChampCar game and I'm leading the championship after 6 races.

BTCC game is with much less interest : short races, only 5 parameters to find so everybody has a perfect setup, sprint races results are conditionned by the qualifications as there's no pitstop.

F1 2007 game could be interesting, but with such a partner it makes me mad and I play it just to finish it.

Next games I'd like to test F1 2008 with the new qualification system, and also I'd like to reach pro level soon in order to try A1GP championship (same cars, 1 pipsqueak per team, only your strategy makes the difference : challenging for sure).

What about you Chulk ? How are going your championships ?
And does anybody else tested this web game ?
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on April 10, 2008, 04:30:58 PM
I had no teammate yet (OK; I have but none of them work with me). This are my stats with F1 2007 with Red Bull and F1 2008 with Renault.

Championships Started 1
Championships Won 0
Race Starts 14
Race Finishes 13
Poles 3
Wins 0
Podiums 2
Fastest Laps 1
Laps Run 751
Laps Led 74
Passes 49
Points 40

Also joind a private game of F1 2008 with Toro Rosso. I got 2 pole, 1 win and 1 podium there, but I doesn't count for WR.
My mid season game (F1 2008 with Renault) will be over in 6 races. Maybe I can try later to join a game with you.
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on April 10, 2008, 05:09:32 PM
My current status (only my BTCC public game stats are listed) :
Championships Started 1
Championships Won 0
Race Starts 16
Race Finishes 14
Poles 1
Wins 0
Podiums 4
Fastest Laps 0
Laps Run 352
Laps Led 12
Passes 107
Points 89

As you can see : laps run = 352 only, BTCC is only short races.

My mid-season F1 2007 (3 podiums, 1 pole) and my private ChampCar game (1 victory, 3 podiums, 1 pole) are not counted.

Quote from: ChulkMaybe I can try later to join a game with you.
I won't be home from 23rd April to 30th April, with no web access. If you want us to team together, at will be in May. ;)
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on April 10, 2008, 08:18:21 PM
OK, I have no problem on waiting a few weeks.
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on May 05, 2008, 08:17:07 AM
Krys, I have my Private Game slot open. Wanna race together? Let me know. I don't care which carset, just tell me which game and I'll be there.
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on May 05, 2008, 10:05:56 AM
I have a F1 1986 (no-refueling, long and hard races for the pilots and the engines) private game planned with my clan and we miss a pilot, we could team up together then. I'll give you infos in BATRacer PM when I'll have, private game is not yet started. ;)

Ayrton also has joined BATRacer and wanted to race with me but he joined his game just before I came back from holidays and when I came back he already had another teammate.

We'll try next month to be all together in the same game. We can even be all in the same team in ChampCar as there is up to 3 pilots per team. ;-)
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on May 05, 2008, 04:20:57 PM
Ok, let me know and I'll be there. Bad luck Ayrton couldn't wait...
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on May 05, 2008, 05:28:01 PM
Quote from: Chulk on May 05, 2008, 04:20:57 PM
Bad luck Ayrton couldn't wait...
Yes, he joined a F1 2008 game with Toro Rosso while I caught a Ferrari seatbelt I could have shared with him. ;D

Anyway, only 1 victory remaining and I reach pro level. 8)
If all goes well, it will happen until the end of the week. ;)
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on May 06, 2008, 12:56:53 PM
Infos sent to you Chulk in BATRacer PM system. ;)

We will be the Zakspeed team (logical ;)), I already created the team. I selected Monaco as home race, please select another home race.
Remember that home race gives extra laps for practice and warm-up, and beeing well qualified is important in Monaco or Hungaroring for example. So I choosed Monaco to hope to get a better setup than others and be better qualified.

All teams won't be used and we deliberately excluded fastest teams of this period (Bennetton, Williams, Lotus, Ferrari, McLaren, Ligier) in order to keep the private game more balanced.

One last thing : races are with no refueling so harder races for pilots due to high weight at the start. Engines are not very reliable. Concentration, consitent, mechanical sympathy or super fit characteristics seems suitable according to this carset specificities. Of course, charisma is also suitable for setup (better than thinker as it helps too in pitstops).

I choosed super fit and consistent, maybe you should try others like charisma and concentration (or mechanical sympathy). Speed demon and pole sitter king don't seem suitable for this carset compared to F1 2007 or 2008. But it's your choice. I wait for you and will start the setup work.

Don't forget too to use the specific qualifications tyres for qualif runs. ;)
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: zaqrack on May 06, 2008, 06:45:16 PM
Quote
We will be the Zakspeed team (logical ;)), I already created the team. I selected Monaco as home race, please select another home race.

That's the spirit. :) +2 points extra in ZakStunts ;)
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on May 06, 2008, 10:10:28 PM
Quote from: zaqrack on May 06, 2008, 06:45:16 PM
Quote
We will be the Zakspeed team (logical ;)), I already created the team. I selected Monaco as home race, please select another home race.

That's the spirit. :) +2 points extra in ZakStunts ;)
For me too?
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on May 06, 2008, 11:03:19 PM
Quote from: zaqrack on May 06, 2008, 06:45:16 PM
Quote
We will be the Zakspeed team (logical ;)), I already created the team. I selected Monaco as home race, please select another home race.

That's the spirit. :) +2 points extra in ZakStunts ;)
Thanks. ;D :D

Edit : for info, ZakSpeed was the name of a real F1 (small) team in 1986. ;)

Chulk : we are 16, last driver is finally enlisted : the game will start soon with the qualifications of the 1st race. 8)
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on May 07, 2008, 04:33:15 PM
I've seen that. Last driver to join really kicked ass so far. Let's see how it works. By the way, which is your method for testing? Mine is:

If Ing Advice says High values (High, Hard or Stiff ARB's), I put the test values in 80, considering high goes from 60-100.
If Ing Advice says Medium, I put the test values in 50, considering medium goes from 40-60
If Ing Advice says Low values (Low, Soft or Loose ARB's), test values go in 20, considering low goes 0-40.
After every updated value, I take 8 points steps. That way, with about 5 updates of a value, you have a very close value to a Spot On.

Only exceptionis B-Bias, where values are 34;48;62 and I take 4 points steps. I tell you this because it will help you have better estimations when loading my car before doing your runs. If you load my values and have the info about testing, it will be easier.
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on May 07, 2008, 11:51:33 PM
I answered in BATRacer team talk already. ;)

You just have to finish setup adjustement during warm-up and we should have then an all spot-on setup for the race. :)

In spite of that, I was about to get pro level and I lost a promised victory in my mid-season F1 2008 game (the only thing I still miss to be promoted to pro level is 1 more victory) AT THE LAST LAP !!! >:( A pace car entered a few laps before my 2nd planned pitstop and I reacted by pitting during it, but pace car stayed too few laps to compensate the anticipated pitstop so in the end of the race my tyres were very used, allowing my teammate to come back on me and bypassing me at the very last lap ! Damn it !
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on May 08, 2008, 01:38:25 AM
What do you need to be a Pro? I have 6 or 7 poles, 7 or 8 podiums, 1 win (in Monaco yesterday with Williams F1 2008  ;) ) and 1 fastest lap.
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on May 08, 2008, 02:35:38 PM
You need 2 wins, 1 pole, 1 fastest lap and 6 podiums. I'm also far above these requirements, except for the wins : only 1 so far. Private game victories don't count (or else I would be pro already).
We both only need a victory to get pro. ;)
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on May 08, 2008, 04:32:09 PM
OK, thanks. You're about to get Pro are you're not even ranked! That's good!
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on May 08, 2008, 04:47:53 PM
To get ranked you need to finish 35 races, which means at least 2 seasons of games, that is around 2 months. But reaching pro level could be done way faster : 1 good season can be sufficient theorically.
When I'll be pro, I will finally be able to race V8 supercars carset for my next game. :)
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on May 09, 2008, 09:51:12 AM
One advice for CTG, in case he would like to play BATRacer : IP are checked, and double accounts are closed without warning. No ghosts in BATRacer (except if you have a not fixed IP and never forget to change your IP between 2 logins ;)).
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on May 10, 2008, 08:42:29 AM
This is done now : I reached pro level. :)

Quote from: BATRacerCongratulations! You have now upgraded to Pro-Level competition and can now compete in Pro-Level championships!   00:44 Today
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on May 13, 2008, 11:16:37 PM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on May 10, 2008, 08:42:29 AM
This is done now : I reached pro level. :)

Quote from: BATRacerCongratulations! You have now upgraded to Pro-Level competition and can now compete in Pro-Level championships!   00:44 Today
Well done! I almost had it last weekend but I had and accident (actually someone crashed with me and took me out) 10 laps before the end and leading.
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on May 16, 2008, 04:34:34 PM
Krys, My mid-season game ends tonight. Do you want to give me your public game number so I can try to join then as a mid-season replacement?
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on May 16, 2008, 05:10:51 PM
My F1 2008 public season number is 26756, I'm in ferrari team but got some bad luck quite often since the start of the season and I'm only 7th for the moment after 7 races (I hope I won't be 18th at the 18th race ! :D).
One of the 2 McLaren pipsqueaks is obvisouly not logged since at least 2 days, maybe his seat will be in mid-season available seats soon. His name is Richard turner. But be fast as McLaren seats are quickly chosen (not like Super Aguri ones ;D).
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on May 17, 2008, 01:50:46 AM
It ends after midnight and I won't be logging in too early in the morning (I still can sleep late on Saturdays)
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on May 23, 2008, 03:21:20 PM
Chulk and I are pro but Ayrton is still "academy' beginner at BATRacer. ;D
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on May 23, 2008, 08:14:59 PM
Yes, we finally are ahead of him in a car game!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on May 26, 2008, 05:18:06 PM
Here's a site that converts setup for different weather conditions, very useful  ;)

http://pinknotgay.awardspace.info/BATr/ (http://pinknotgay.awardspace.info/BATr/)
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on May 26, 2008, 08:11:48 PM
Good, but not complete.
I use an Excel/OOCalc file to convert setups.

One info : I joined a V8 Supercars mid-season and it seems best characteristic to choose is thinker or charisma (only 1 to choose in this carset) as setup feedback is VERY low. My character has pole sitter king chatracteristic which much less efficient than in F1 carset as there is qualifications only 1st race of 3. Each track has 3 races : 2nd one starts with arrival order of 1st race inversed, and 3rd one starts with average arrival order of first 2 races to create the starting grid.
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on May 26, 2008, 08:43:34 PM
It works really good! Even if not every carset is there, many can be used. For example, F1 1986 can be changed with F1 2007 or F1 2008 without much difficulty.
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on June 08, 2008, 09:36:32 PM
Coooool ! My ranking increased by more than 700 places with the results of my 2nd public season : I was 1880th, I'm now 1108th. ;D
this is due to my good results there, and that I was given the championship bonus. I finished 2nd in the end behind my teammate, but he had the instructor status, so I got the championship victory in my stats. :D
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Ayrton on June 12, 2008, 12:40:36 AM
I have a private game slot free ...
then if some of you start one tell me to join the same !!!  ;)
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on June 12, 2008, 12:47:56 AM
Krys y yo terminamos el nuestro hace unos dias y esta organizando otro. Si queres mandale un mensaje para que te cuente.

Now, in English so everybody knows...
Krys and I just finished our game a few days ago and he's planning another. Maybe you can send him a message to let him know you want to join.
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on June 12, 2008, 12:48:02 PM
I asked on the French Webring-F1 forum and it's ok. You can join too Ayrton.
It will be an A1GP (so, 1 member per team only in this carset) private game planned to start today or tomorrow.
I'll send you both game id and password by BATRacer private message. ;)


Apart from that, nobody else joined BATRacer from the Stunts community ? ::)
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on June 12, 2008, 08:28:14 PM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on June 12, 2008, 12:48:02 PM
I asked on the French Webring-F1 forum and it's ok. You can join too Ayrton.
It will be an A1GP (so, 1 member per team only in this carset) private game planned to start today or tomorrow.
I'll send you both game id and password by BATRacer private message. ;)


Apart from that, nobody else joined BATRacer from the Stunts community ? ::)
Argentina es mio, cante pri!

Nevermind, just a local joke...
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on June 14, 2008, 03:03:51 AM
So, how about that game? Was it delayed by any problems or it's just a simple delay without any complications?
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on June 14, 2008, 12:50:04 PM
3 guys that planned to join finally said they can't because they'll be away from computer during the game period.
And it seems that we need to be 16 to start an A1GP private game, dunno why... So far we're not 16 so we're waiting. I asked a few times already in webring F1 forum about it. I'll keep you informed when I'll have more news. ;)
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on June 15, 2008, 05:25:10 PM
OK, game started. Check your BATRacer's PM guys. ;-)
I'll race as Sweden team. Argentina (for Chulk) and Brazil (for Ayrton, like Senna ;)) are still available.
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on June 15, 2008, 07:00:42 PM
Quote from: Chulk on June 12, 2008, 08:28:14 PM
Argentina es mio, cante pri!
Too late : Ayrton choosed Argentina. ;D :P :D
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on June 16, 2008, 12:14:11 AM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on June 15, 2008, 07:00:42 PM
Quote from: Chulk on June 12, 2008, 08:28:14 PM
Argentina es mio, cante pri!
Too late : Ayrton choosed Argentina. ;D :P :D
Yes, I know. I chose South-Africa instead. I really love their flag!
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on June 19, 2008, 09:48:18 AM
I finally entered top 10 French pipsqueaks, which is quite hard to do. But it can change back tomorrow : the previous 10th best French was just a few points before me yesterday, and he can be back at the 10th place tomorrow according to today's results. I won a race yesterday, this is what probably made me catch this place. We'll see.

Anyway, with my current world ranking I would be 2nd best Argentinian pipsqueak. :D

edit : is "Ayrton2008 Ayrton2008" player a 2nd profile of the Ayrton we now ? Beware : 2 (or more) profiles per player is forbidden, except if you buy "kool tools" for all of your profiles. I saw a few guys with their accounts blocked when they wanted to create 2 free users profiles.
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on July 15, 2008, 01:48:42 PM
Congrats to ayrton who (finally) reached pro level. ;D
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on July 22, 2008, 12:57:18 PM
Getting Kool tools and starting 4 championships instead of 1 at a time made my ranking decrease a lot (500 points => 390 points). Obviously the system calculates with number of championship wons compared to total championships started, and it also count % of finished races and number of poles, victories, podium, ...

Anyway, I started to get more points with my results (pole, podiums and victories) and I'm back in top 10 active French pipsqueaks for the moment. But real rank will be shown at the end of my championships. If I win 1 or 2 of them (so far I lead 2 of them (1 of them with good gap, the other is very sharp leading), I'm 5th on another one and 8th on last one) I'll climb again in the ranking. ;D

Also, I started to get some overall records (see attached image). What are yours Chulk and Ayrton ?
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on July 22, 2008, 05:36:29 PM
This is my only World Record:
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on July 27, 2008, 12:06:16 AM
My world records updated ;D
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on August 06, 2008, 10:29:36 AM
Well, I like this game and now I reached the top 1000 pipsqueaks and I'm 5th best French pipsqueak. ;D
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on August 06, 2008, 11:20:13 PM
Updated Wolrd records. Of course, some of them went down in ranking since last time. But I got a 4th top 10 record in my MR2 Road class mid-season. :)
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on August 06, 2008, 11:39:08 PM
This is my new rank:
2171th with 122,67 points and...
Poles      7   Podiums   11
Wins      3   Fastest   1

I got a Pole + Win combination last race of BTCC Touring with MZ.
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on August 07, 2008, 09:36:35 AM
My stats at this moment to compare with yours Chulk. ;)
I won a ChampCar championship while having only 1 victory on it, but I had 7 2nd places, 4 poles and 3 best laps for only 2 retirements. :)
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on September 10, 2008, 06:25:12 PM
I found a "replay exporter" to keep the details of the races : http://trendell-studios.net

Example with a good result for me in my current LMES game. I'm in sharp battle for the lead with Zarkovic guy, only a few points between us while we're both leading by more than 100 points to the 3rd guy (Stephan, Zarkovic teammate) : http://trendell-studios.net/batracer/view.php?id=1336 ;D
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on October 21, 2008, 10:33:58 AM
Updated stats and records. All records don't fit into 1 screen now, I had to to 2 images.
I lost all my F1 records but I almost don't play F1 carset, there's not enough strategy on them, except F1 2005 with tyre specificity.
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on October 21, 2008, 08:36:14 PM
I think F1 86 has some tactics as well, as fuel is not needed, you could use your tyres a lot and pit 2 times or have its usage at 0 and try not to stop on softs... Anyway, I prefer A1GP o any other carset (that I tried, of course). I'm now trying F199. Cars are quite similar in speed and the main difference is its mech duration. BAR breakes almost every race if you force it too much...
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on November 07, 2008, 02:12:13 PM
I reached the 1000 points barrier this morning. Next steps, top 500 drivers, and then 1500 points. ;D
But it's becoming harder and harder to get points. The better ranked you are, the lower each victory is worth in points.
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 10, 2008, 03:50:51 PM
And now, the overall 20000 points limits is achieved, and top 500 global rank too since a few days.
BAT score points close to 1200. Top 100 drivers are all above 2100 points in BAT score.
Along you progress and get points and rank, each performance gives less points. Only 100 BAT score points (the one in red) for my 4th championship victory (in V8 Supercars) while I got 600 for my 1st one. It will be hard to enter top 100, but I'm sure I can. ;)
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on December 10, 2008, 04:24:00 PM
You're doing great Krys! I started another A1GP (still the best after trying Champcar and batseven as mid-season). Waited almost 2 months for an A1GP for here. After the first 2 meetings (4 races) I'm leadinng by one point and have a 2nd place on the starting grid for the next sprint.
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 10, 2008, 05:24:42 PM
A1 is a good carset, but difficult.
My favorite carset remains LMES, where race strategy is the most important.
I'm testing the new indycar carset, I'm 2nd of the championship after 3 races although I got a retirement (an aggressive guy colliding on me :() at 1st race, my teammate is 1st (no retirement). :)
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Chulk on December 11, 2008, 12:42:09 AM
Finished 2nd on the sprint mentioned before and now I have 5 points of advantage.
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on December 11, 2008, 02:44:00 PM
My top 100 records up to date.
Of course, now that F1 2005 carset is beeing more played, almost all my top 10 records there are now ranked lower.
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on April 06, 2009, 03:40:42 PM
Long time without update there.
Scoring system for world ranking has been changed a few and points are not limited to 2500 now.
Regarding ranking, I'm now around 300th place, but I should go up to around 250th rank soon as I'm already champion of an indycar game before the season is finished. In 2 days the season will be over and I'll get my new ranking. 8)

I had some frustrating games last months, with 6 championships lost for a few points. As only champion is rewarded in world ranking, beeing 2nd of the championship is the same as beeing last. Too bad, I ended 3 times 3rd and 3 times 2nd recently...
Regarding my other curent games, I'm in battle for the title in 2 of them (last one I'm doing really crappy) so maybe some more big points in world ranking will come in case I win these 2 games. ;D

Edit : updated top 100 records per carset attached ;)
Title: Re: BATRacer
Post by: Krys TOFF on April 08, 2009, 06:45:40 PM
1000th race start (public games and mid-season games), 250th in world ranking. ;D