Olympic Games in Beijing and many other things too... Saving the beer topic from being overtaken by Sports... ;D SORRY!!! I'm really drunk! :D :P
HUN is in elite league in ice hockey, Speedo&NASA made a super weapon in swimming by their hyper swimming dress, sports are still full of dopes (especially IGF, the new gigadope without any special detection by blood tests - I guess I could give them a piece of advice about it) while Roland Garros and Tour the France is coming soon in a few months... So, let's talk about sports! ;)
I hope to see a Flyers - Rangers battle soon... ;D
Quote from: CTG on April 23, 2008, 06:40:59 PM
I hope to see a Flyers - Rangers battle soon... ;D
Then organize one after the conference semifinals have finished. I'll watch the Penguins-Canadiens conference final at the same time. :)
Find a job first... :P ;D
Mathematic models of athletic performances, especially offered for Akoss Poo: http://myweb.lmu.edu/jmureika/track/index.html
Funny quote from IIHF website:
DENMARK
If we'd kept up our first-minute pace, we'd have beaten the Czechs 60-0
;D
Hahaha :) Who said that?
Anyway, I'm happy because we beat Italy 6-2, so we already have a place in the next round (unless Italy beats Czech Republic by 11 - (goal difference Russia - Denmark) goals, which is incredibly unlikely. And even in that case, if Russia beats Czech Republic, we're still in the next round :) But quarter finals will be very hard to reach still... I think I might even watch one of the games between the ice hockey giants.
Vote: Flyers vs. Penguins
Thank you for voting. See below for the results from across SportsNation.
Your responses in bold text.
1) Which team has the better offense?
83.7% Penguins
16.3% Flyers
2) Which team has the better defense?
68.0% Penguins
32.0% Flyers
3) Which team has the better goaltending?
66.8% Penguins
33.2% Flyers
4) Which team has the better special teams?
76.5% Penguins
23.5% Flyers
5) Which coach would you rather have on your bench?
69.4% Michel Therrien
30.6% John Stevens
6) Has Marian Hossa erased all questions about his postseason play?
70.4% Yes
29.6% No
7) Which is the best in-state rivalry in the NHL?
84.3% Flyers vs. Penguins
11.8% Rangers vs. Islanders
2.2% Sharks vs. Ducks
0.8% Rangers vs. Sabres
0.4% Kings vs. Ducks
0.3% Panthers vs. Lightning
0.2% Islanders vs. Sabres
0.2% Sharks vs. Kings
8) Which team will win this series?
37.3% Penguins, 4-0
21.4% Penguins, 4-2
18.7% Flyers, 4-2
9.2% Penguins, 4-1
6.2% Flyers, 4-3
3.4% Penguins, 4-3
2.7% Flyers, 4-1
1.1% Flyers, 4-0
Flyers will win. For sure.
Quote from: CTG on May 06, 2008, 09:10:36 PM
Flyers will win. For sure.
I quoted this post. Reason: you may change it if you become wrong.
I don't understand how you can care about American football...
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on May 06, 2008, 11:54:16 PM
I don't understand how you can care about American football...
;D Still NHL (ice hockey)... ;D
Quote from: Akoss Poo on May 06, 2008, 09:44:00 PM
Quote from: CTG on May 06, 2008, 09:10:36 PM
Flyers will win. For sure.
I quoted this post. Reason: you may change it if you become wrong.
I won't change it, but if things go wrong... well... I just won't CARE about it. ;D :P
Oh it's hockey :) Well I still don't understand, but I understand a bit more!
(I might have realised there are no goalkeepers in American football...)
Russia - Denmark 4 - 1
Could be worse...
Denmark lost 8-1 to Sweden, very impressive performance by the Swedish B team (the Swedish A team is playing the Stanley Cup conference finals under the name 'Detroit Red Wings'). Because I know some Danish Stunts pipsqueaks, and I've been to Denmark earlier, I'm happy to see Denmark in the main round, but this time I was cheering for the Swedish, they are my favourite national ice hockey team (not counting Hungary of course), so I was satisfied with the result. The vast majority of the best Swedish players are missing because of the NHL playoffs, so I don't think that the Swedish are hot favourites for a medal - maybe next time.
The Russian team is the big team which misses the least top players (only Malkin is missing in real), they are clear favourites in my eyes. Canada is strong too and they are playing at home, they are good for the silver.
Czech Rep., Sweden, Finland can catch a medal, maybe Team USA, too. Latvia, Norway, Germany, Belarus, Switzerland are suffocating the big teams' throat, but the big sensation is still missing - I think they can fight for the missing quarter final places. Denmark will be 12th I think.
The new rule at quarter finals and especially at relegation round are very stupid. With this, group A and group D will fight for two semi final places, while C and B for the other two, and the two side of the tree will only be mixed at the semi finals. If one side of the tree is much stronger, it is very unfair. For the relegation: best of 3 series Slovenia-Slovakia, France-Italy, losers are relegated. I think Slovenia and Slovakia are the 2 best from these 4, but one of them (probably Slovakia) will drop out, and France/Italy will be very lucky, because there's no round robin series this time for the relegation...
How did Slovakia get into the relegation group? :o They should be candidates for winning the championship...
As for Denmark, we have now lost against Russia, Czech Republic and Sweden - probably 3 of the 4 best teams (Canada being the 4th) in this world cup. I think it's still hard to say how strong our team is. The next games vs Switzerland and Belarus will show. They will be difficult, but not impossible for us. If we lose them, I still think we can beat Norway and be 11th.
Denmark-Switzerland 0-2 after just 4 minutes
7-2 in the end. Switzerland outclassed Denmark, and will probably start the playoffs as 3rd place team in main round group. Sweden has to beat Czech Rep. with only 4 defenders remaining (the other 2 were involved in the fight in Russia, and they get a match ban) in regular time. If they do, quarter finals will be: Russia-Switzerland, Sweden-Czech Rep. If the Czechs earn a point, then: Russia-Sweden, Czech Rep.-Switzerland.
In the other group, now the Finland-USA match is probably for the second place in the group. USA can get knocked out if the lose against Finland and Norway in regular time, I would like to see this version very much. If Norway doesn't beat USA, they wouldn't get qualified, and Latvia would go though instead of them.
Male handball, Champions League:
THW Kiel - Ciudad Real 25-31 (13-15)
Ciudad won with sum 58-54. JTK must be really drunk now...
Okay Denmark was not on the same level as Switzerland, and will probably also have problems vs Belarus. We'll see next year :) Now, who to support in the following games...
Support to PHILADELPHIA FLYERS versus the luckily drafted asshole team of pittsburgh! :D
Buuuuut, we won against Belarus! yay! Still last place in the group I guess, but I think we shouldn't be too ashamed of having lost vs. Czech Republic, Russia, Sweden and Switzerland, and beaten Italy and Belarus. So the quarter finals will be Russia - Switzerland, Czech Republic - Sweden, Finland - USA and Canada - Norway (did Norway really scrape into the quarterfinals!?). It's always the same, the six giants joined by two aspiring teams, in this case Switzerland and Norway, sometimes Slovakia or Germany, sometimes Belarus, hopefully someday Denmark :)
After this point I don't care about NHL... :P
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on May 13, 2008, 07:52:54 PM
Buuuuut, we won against Belarus! yay! Still last place in the group I guess, but I think we shouldn't be too ashamed of having lost vs. Czech Republic, Russia, Sweden and Switzerland, and beaten Italy and Belarus. So the quarter finals will be Russia - Switzerland, Czech Republic - Sweden, Finland - USA and Canada - Norway (did Norway really scrape into the quarterfinals!?). It's always the same, the six giants joined by two aspiring teams, in this case Switzerland and Norway, sometimes Slovakia or Germany, sometimes Belarus, hopefully someday Denmark :)
I think there are seven giants: Slovakia is a giant, too, but this year they brought a very shameful result (Team USA was also involved in the relegation round once, in 2003). In my opinion, if each team is coming with their best team, the strength order is the following:
1 Sweden
2 Russia
3 Canada
(gap)
4 Finland
5 Czech Republic
6 Slovakia
7 USA
(big gap)
8 Switzerland
9 Belarus
(small gap)
10 Germany
11 Latvia
(gap)
12 Norway
13 Denmark
14 Slovenia
15 Austria
16 Ukraine
17 Kazakhstan
18 Italy
19 France
20 Hungary
21 Japan
22 Poland
(gap)
23 Estonia
24 Great Britain
25 Lithuania
26 Romania
27 Croatia
28 Netherlands
(gap)
29 China
30 South Korea
The Pittsburgh Penguins are on a really hot streak: this year, those young players really became a mature and strong team, a real contender for the Stanley Cup. They are 11-1 in the playoffs, only one victory away from sweeping the lame Philadelphia Flyers, and with that, the dream final against the Detroit Red Wings, where several players from the great Tre Kronor Swedish National Team play.
East Conference Finals:
Pittsburgh-Philadelphia 4-2
Pittsburgh-Philadelphia 4-2
Philadelphia-Pittsburgh 1-4
CTG's big mouth seems to be completely disappeared, ain't it? ;D
FC Zenit St. Petersburg is the new UEFA Cu Champion! I cheared for them as Glasgow Rangers didn't play offesively along the entire cup. How long will Arshavin stay in Zenit? Not much I guess...
Quote from: Akoss Poo on May 15, 2008, 03:56:55 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on May 13, 2008, 07:52:54 PM
Buuuuut, we won against Belarus! yay! Still last place in the group I guess, but I think we shouldn't be too ashamed of having lost vs. Czech Republic, Russia, Sweden and Switzerland, and beaten Italy and Belarus. So the quarter finals will be Russia - Switzerland, Czech Republic - Sweden, Finland - USA and Canada - Norway (did Norway really scrape into the quarterfinals!?). It's always the same, the six giants joined by two aspiring teams, in this case Switzerland and Norway, sometimes Slovakia or Germany, sometimes Belarus, hopefully someday Denmark :)
I think there are seven giants: Slovakia is a giant, too, but this year they brought a very shameful result (Team USA was also involved in the relegation round once, in 2003). In my opinion, if each team is coming with their best team, the strength order is the following:
1 Sweden
2 Russia
3 Canada
(gap)
4 Finland
5 Czech Republic
6 Slovakia
7 USA
(big gap)
8 Switzerland
9 Belarus
(small gap)
10 Germany
11 Latvia
(gap)
12 Norway
13 Denmark
14 Slovenia
15 Austria
16 Ukraine
17 Kazakhstan
18 Italy
19 France
20 Hungary
21 Japan
22 Poland
(gap)
23 Estonia
24 Great Britain
25 Lithuania
26 Romania
27 Croatia
28 Netherlands
(gap)
29 China
30 South Korea
I think the list is okay, but you are underestimating Canada. I think they are the strongest of all the teams, and will also win this championship.
Quote from: Chulk on May 15, 2008, 09:32:06 PM
FC Zenit St. Petersburg is the new UEFA Cu Champion! I cheared for them as Glasgow Rangers didn't play offesively along the entire cup. How long will Arshavin stay in Zenit? Not much I guess...
Didn't saw any of UEFA cup, but a friend told me Rangers played like an European Once Caldas (remember Libertadores 2004...). Therefore, cheers for Zenit! :)
Quote from: Duplode on May 16, 2008, 12:31:25 AM
Quote from: Chulk on May 15, 2008, 09:32:06 PM
FC Zenit St. Petersburg is the new UEFA Cu Champion! I cheared for them as Glasgow Rangers didn't play offesively along the entire cup. How long will Arshavin stay in Zenit? Not much I guess...
Didn't saw any of UEFA cup, but a friend told me Rangers played like an European Once Caldas (remember Libertadores 2004...). Therefore, cheers for Zenit! :)
Exactly!!!
Poor Canada (RUS-CAN 5-4 OT)! I wonder what would happen if Crosby and Malkin are playing in the World Cup final instead of PHI-PIT conference final in NHL... (which is quite a knockout at the moment, 6-0 for motherfucker penguins 3 minutes before the end; 4-1 victory in overall)
Quote from: CTG on May 18, 2008, 11:38:27 PM
Poor Canada (RUS-CAN 5-4 OT)! I wonder what would happen if Crosby and Malkin are playing in the World Cup final instead of PHI-PIT conference final in NHL... (which is quite a knockout at the moment, 6-0 for motherfucker penguins 3 minutes before the end; 4-1 victory in overall)
Canada was almost with its strongest team (missing only Crosby), and couldn't beat Russia. Sweden is the strongest, missing Naeslund, H. Sedin, D. Sedin, Forsberg, Hagman, Zetterberg, Franzén, Kronvall, Lidström, Norström, Holmström, and losing only 5-4 to Canada... well, I think they have the strongest team. Poor SWE, losing the SF only due to the tired Lundqvist, and losing the bronze medal game with terrible unluck, outshooting Finland 36-13, but losing 0-4.
I guess I missed Sundin from the Swedish team. :) And Datsyuk from the Russian. Canada doesn't have that much great players than SWE and RUS. And most of the Russian stars are really young...
NHL playoffs:
Pittsburgh Penguins beat the Philadelphia Flyers 6-0 in the last game of the Conference Final. They won 4-1 on aggregate (dicksucker Flyers :D). They have to beat the Detroit Red Wings (the Swedish national team :)) to win the Stanley Cup.
Argentina won (real) hockey Champions Trophy in Germany (Don't make me write the name of the city, :)) 6-2 against Germany in the final. Good chance for a gold in Beijing there.
Female handball, Hungarian championship:
Györi Audi ETO KC won the championship easily with 100% performance (22-0-0), also winning Hungarian Cup - but losing in EHF Champion's League semi-finals versus Zvezda Zvenigorod (RUS) mainly because of the injury of Görbicz.
05.24: Detroit Red Wings - Pittsburgh Penguins 4-0 (0-0, 1-0, 3-0)
05.26: Detroit Red Wings - Pittsburgh Penguins 3-0 (2-0, 0-0, 1-0)
Ideal standings so far... ;D
05.28. Pittsburgh Penguins - Detroit Red Wings 3-2
Red Wings lead the series 2-1, next match 05.30. in Pittsburgh.
Szávay is a Helen.
Szávay is a dicksucker lame Helen!
OP ME COS I'M LAME!!!
Handball, men, qualification for Olympic games :
- tournament in France (due to French result in last competitions France was designed as a host for a qualification tournament, this is also true for Poland) with 4 teams
- best 2 teams qualified
Result after 2 days of 3 :
- day one (yesterday) :
France 34-25 Tunisia
Spain 33-31 Norway
- day 2 (today) :
France 28-24 Spain
Tunisia 30-30 Norway
Norway is already eliminated, France is already qualified, even if France loose tomorrow its match versus Norway.
Winner of Spain-Tunisia will be the 2nd qualified. In case of a draw, Spain will be qualified.
Handball, men, qualification tournaments for Olympic games :
France and Spain won yesterday in France so France and Spain are qualified while Tunisia (too bad for this good team who should have won the Africa title) and Norway are eliminated.
On other qualification tournaments :
- Poland and Iceland are qualified while Argentina and Sweden are eliminated (Sweden is still far from what it used to be...)
- Croatia and Russia are logically qualified while Japan and Algeria are eliminated.
Qualified countries for Olympic Games in handball men :
Germany (world champion),
China (because it's in China, else they would not have been qualified),
Denmark (Europe champion),
Egypt (Africa champion),
South Korea (Asia champion),
Brasil (America champion),
and now Russia, Croatia, Iceland, Poland, Spain, France
It will be a difficult Olympic tournament, especially for China. I think Germany, Croatia and France are medalist favorites while Denmark, Spain and Poland are outsiders. I wonder what JTK thinks about it.
Only 6 teams are better than Hungary (GER, DEN, ESP, RUS, CRO, FRA)... f*ck the system... And we can see that NOR and SWE are only qualified for the qualification tournament (instead of HUN) because the qualification WCH had been in Norway...
Ice hockey:
Stanley Cup finals, Detroit leads only 3-2 now, as:
Detroit-Pittsburgh 3-4 after ET (0-2, 1-0, 2-1, 0-0, 0-0, 0-1)
Nobody mentioned so far: Usain Bolt (JAM) is the fastest man on earth, 100m in 9.72! :o
How to kill Pittsburgh Penguins, LOL! ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eftKwZzT15U
Quote from: CTG on June 04, 2008, 11:24:10 AM
How to kill Pittsburgh Penguins, LOL! ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eftKwZzT15U
Okay, Detroit Red Wings showed it in a different way - they won Stanley Cup.
D i c k s u c k e r P e n g u i n s ! ! ! ;D :P
Malkin will come to Flyers. Or die. ;D
WCH qualifier, handball, men:
Hungary-Bosnia-Herzigovina 28-26 (15-14)
That match was a nightmare. Worst play of the team I've seen for long, even worse than on the ECH against Iceland. Bosnia lead in the vast majority of the second half, Hungary was striving for the lead. Our goalies was out of form, unlike the Bosnian keeper. We shot everything into him, our attacks missed fantasy and power, very annoying mistakes came in every aspects of the game. Even after a long club season it was disasterous, the team had a very long crisis. Let's hope everything will change in Sarajevo, or at least we will do enough to qualify for the WCH.
Quote from: CTG on June 03, 2008, 11:08:26 PM
Nobody mentioned so far: Usain Bolt (JAM) is the fastest man on earth, 100m in 9.72! :o
Really impressive! Even more considering he said 200m is his specialty!
Muhahahaha, Sidney Crosby got no prizes. Ovechkin did. Even if PHI killed Caps. ;D
Malkin stayed in Pittsburgh but... no more Hossa for Penguins! ;D
Klitschko - Thompson... tips?
TKO victory in the 7th round for the "Steel Hammer"!
Quote from: CTG on July 11, 2008, 11:38:41 PM
Klitschko - Thompson... tips?
TKO victory in the 7th round for the "Steel Hammer"!
Very bad match, disappointing performance from both fighters. Easy victory for Klitschko...
Water polo European champioship, bronze match, after extra time:
Hungary - Croatia 15-14 (3-1, 2-4, 5-5, 3-3; 0-1, 2-0)
Refrees were with Croatia, what a surprise... :-\ >:( But finally we won. ;)
Dirty Serbia sucked versus Montenegro in the final (after extra time)!!! ;D
Montenegro - Serbia 6-5 (2-1, 0-3, 2-0, 1-1; 1-0, 0-0)
Chances at the Olympic Games:
Serbia 33%
Hungary 22%
Croatia 20%
Montenegro 15%
Italy 5%
Spain 3%
else 2%
Long time no ice hockey post, so here's one.
Alba Volán will participate in the Erste Bank Austrian Ice Hockey League (EBEL) next year, too.
Opponents are again: Klagenfurter AC, Villacher SV, Vienna Capitals, Red Bull Salzburg, Black Wings Linz, Graz 99ers, Innsbrucker Haie, Olimpija Ljubljana (SLO), Acroni Jesenice (SLO).
The point system (each Elite "A" level international player means a certain point value, and the foreign players, too) will be stricter than next year: 5 points less available per team. What's more, Hungarian international players are now also "A" level players, who have point value... That's why Alba Volán sent away the Hungarian international players who are just 3rd-4th-5th line players in Alba and in the national team, too, and called up to the squad some new young Hungarian players, who haven't yet invited to the national team. The domestic players aren't worse than the Slovenians and Austrians, Alba was weaker than them becuase they couldn't afford quality foreign players from abroad, like all other teams. This year maybe they will have a bit more money, and they are thinking in North European players instead of more expensive North American ones. They need one really good goalie plus a complete line imported from abroad, to improve last year's performance. Fortunately none of the key players left the team. The shitty foreign players also sent away, they want to keep, the only good one, the Latvian Galvins, who played well also on the World Championships this year. His fate is not decided yet, negotiations are still under way. The new foreign players will arrive in August.
New players so far (those who came up to the first squad from second or junior squad, are not mentioned):
Dávid Jobb (HUN, from Dunaújvárosi AC, HUN-1)
Ádám Hegyi (HUN, Bad Neuheim, Junior GER-1)
Gergö Nagy (HUN, Red Bull Salzburg II, AUT-2)
Dániel Fekete (HUN, Trondheim IK, NOR-1)
?Roland Hajós (HUN, HK Trnava, Junior SVK-1, under negotiations)
?Dávid Kiss (HUN, Red Bull Salzburg II, AUT-2, under negotiations)
?Dániel Kóger (HUN, Red Bull Salzburg II, AUT-2, under negotiations)
?István Bartalis (HUN, IF Troja Ljungby, Junior SWE-?2, under negotiations)
Players left:
Chris Allen (USA, ES Weisswasser, GER-2)
Toni Sihvonen (FIN, Sports Vaasa, FIN-2)
Sam Ftorek (USA, ?)
Kangyal Balázs (HUN, Budapest Stars, HUN-1)
Rajz Attila (HUN, Alba Volán II, HUN-1)
Borostyán Gergely (HUN, ?)
Budai Krisztián (HUN, Kezmarok, SVK-1)
Gröschl Tamás (HUN, Budapest Stars, HUN-1)
Majoross Gergely (HUN, Budapest Stars, HUN-1)
Svasznek Bence (HUN, Budapest Stars, HUN-1)
?Guntis Galvins (LAT, ?, under negotiations)
Test matches:
8/22 HC Briancon (FRA-1), home
8/23 HC Briancon (FRA-1), home
8/27 Hokej Sumperk (CZE-2), neutral (tournament in Poland)
8/28 AIK Hockey Härnösand (SWE-3), neutral (tournament in Poland)
8/30 match for 1st/2nd or 3rd/4th or 5th/6th place, neutral (tournament in Poland)
9/2 Dunaújvárosi AC (HUN-1), away
9/5 Graz 99ers (AUT-1), away
9/12 Vienna Capitals (AUT-1), away
9/14 Vienna Capitals (AUT-1), home
Other Hungarian teams may participate in the Hungarian-Romanian Interliga. The teams are:
Alba Volán II (HUN)
Dunaújvárosi AC (HUN)
Újpest (HUN)
Ferencváros (HUN)
Miskolci Jegesmedvék (HUN)
Budapest Stars (HUN)
HC Csíkszereda (ROM - Transylvanian)
SC Csíkszereda (ROM - Transylvanian)
Progym Gyergyószentmiklós (ROM - Transylvanian)
?Steaua Bucuresti (ROM - real Romanian) or Brassó (ROM - Transylvanian)
Tragedy in Hungarian sport: György Kolonics, two-times olympic champion, more than 10 times world champion of canoe, died during training because of a sudden heart attack. He prepared for Beijing in C-2, having a great chance to win a medal again. He was 36 years old.
Rest in peace! :'(
American swimming star, Jessica Hardy was caught on using dopes (even the B-test is positive). I hope to see more disqualified American sprinters, swimmers; especially Michael Phelps.
Bahh... sad and stupid injury just before the Olympic Games: Anita Görbicz, best female handball player of Hungary made a serious accident - at home. She was cooking and somehow the hot oil poured on her leg. She suffered a tertiary burn (quite serious level :-\) and maybe she has to leave out Beijing. :(
That is very unlucky...
But of course it must be because she's a maleish Helen who doesn't know her way around the kitchen as she should, because she's been doing maleish things too much :)
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on July 29, 2008, 05:13:48 PM
But of course it must be because she's a maleish Helen who doesn't know her way around the kitchen as she should, because she's been doing maleish things too much :)
Akoss: how do you know BJ's password to this Forum? ??? ;D
Görbicz is cute, femalish and very talented player.
Quote from: CTG on July 29, 2008, 02:15:14 PM
Anita Görbicz... suffered a tertiary burn (quite serious level :-\) and maybe she has to leave out Beijing. :(
She didn't leave. Nice victory against Sweden. Your GK (I think Palinger was her name) really did well in those last minutes with 2 players out for Hungary!
About Argentina: Paula Pareto (22 YO) won our 1st bronce medal in Judo -48Kg.
I decided to watch some of the games before going to bed last night and guess what was on TV - Brazil v. Hungary in Female Handball! Too bad we didn't win (Hungary drawn in the last second from a direct foul... :'(), but there was a nice reaction - and great energy! - from our girls in the second half. And we still have hopes of qualification, if only a bit slim. :) And BTW, there's really something about Görbicz, she plainly stands out from a crowd...
I should mention as well we got our first medals too; like for Argentina, both were bronzes and in Judo: Ketleyn Quadros (Female, <55) and Leandro Guilheiro (Male, <73).
So far the olympics are not going the rightest way for the Hungarians.
Really poor performance for our fencers. I don't exactly know the name of each fencing categories, but in one of them, we had the recent world and a former European champion in our squad, and none of them won any medal. Best result is 4th place so far.
Good start for the female handball team (I'm still sad about the unlucky male team who miss the Games) against Sweden, then a very annoying draw against Brazil. In the end, we almost lost. The match had some key factors: the unusual defensive style of the South Americans (Hungarians don't like to play against 5+1 or 4+2 which was done by Brazil, only against the usual 6+0 syte), the Polish referees (surprisingly our friends were against us: Brazil made a lot of uncalled 2 min exclusion worthy fouls, which were unpunished by the refs - most prominent: 1 min to go, the Brazilian girl is lying on the ball deliberately to avoid Hungarian fastbreak, no 2 min call; while on the other side, even slighter fouls turned out to be 2 min exclusions), undisciplined play of Tóth, deconcentrated Görbicz at 7 m throws. We have to solve the problems of offensive play against the 5+1/4+2 defensive play, the Koreans are good at this, too, and their players are of higher standards than the Brazilians. The Germany match will be a key game, the chances are 50-50. The Russians are very strong, but their style suits our team I think, we might be able to beat them. At least 3rd place in the group is needed to avoid a meeting against top favourite Norway.
Water polo: disappointing draw against Montenegro in the first match (10-10), we wasted our 3 goal lead during the match. But probably this was the hardest match in the group, and we can still clinch top position there - which would mean a secured place in the medal round (top 4). The female team beat the Netherlands (11-9), relatively good play, although I think the difference between the two goalies yielded the victory for us.
Swimming: that's were I'm quite satisfied. Silver medal for Cseh (400 medley), beating Lochte. He also swam well on 200 butterfly, 2nd best time in the heat round. Our other swimmers also did their best: 6th place for Kis G., 5th best time for Mutina in the heat round (women's 200 freestyle). F*ck off doped American and Australian swimmers!
Tennis: Ágnes Szávay lost 6:4 3:6 5:7 to home favourite Jie Zheng (China) in an excellent and very long, heroic battle. She has a chance to cure this disappointment in the doubles event with Gréta Arn on her side.
Other sports: we suck in judo and boxing as always in the olympics after big (medal) hopes (though Miklós Ungvári's match was a clear referee cheat against him, according to the Hungarian judo experts)... Sidi shoot himself into 6th place. Dorina Böczögö finished in 52nd place in gymnastics. I remarked this only because of her funny name. ;D
First positive doping: María Isabel Moreno (Cycling, Spain). I wonder how many more cases are in Swimming and Cycling mainly, that are not told because they would mean a decrease in people's interest in the games...
Swimming? The whole USA team. Maybe Australia too.
Oh my God, this one will be the crappiest Olympic Games for Hungary EVER.
At least we kicked ass in male water polo:
Hungary - Greece 17-6 (7-2, 2-2, 4-1, 4-1)
What a shame, Montenegro could won by bigger difference versus Canada (12-0!).
CTG talked about the water polo team's demolishing victory.
Let's see how the day was going for Hungarians.
In swimming, our rising star Emese Kovács showed a miserable performance, finishing only 27th. She was our secret favourite, allegedly she talked about swimming a new world record before the games, many people considered her as a medal hope. The commentators on Eurosport said that she put on some weight (5 kgs) in the olympic village, which can be the reason. We know that mentally she is weak (always anxious before big events), but that can't be the reason for swimming several seconds slower time than her not-too-old personal best. Emese, only 17, is in my opinion quite an attractive girl: http://www.origo.hu/i/0803/20080315kovacseme.jpg http://www.obudaisport.hu/kepek/1184870727.jpg , but it's also visible that she is b*tchy. Dániel Gyurta compensated this with a fabulous swim this afternoon. He went to the semi final with the best time on 200 breaststroke, setting a new Olympic record with this. In my eyes, he is advanced to a medal hope, and if he beats Kitajima in the final and wins the gold, I will suck CTG's dick (I promised to him ;D ;D ;D). Unlucky day for other swimmers: Mutina and E. Verrasztó just missed the finals of their main events, finishing 11th and 9th, respectively.
Tennis: Szávay/Arn doubles' match is postponed to tomorrow.
Rowing: Varga and Hirling, former World Champions missed the semi finals, which wasn't a real surprise, knowing some bad news about them, but still, it is a very weak performance for them.
Fencing: another very disappointing day for our fencers, only one man reached top8, though we were waiting for our second medal from one of them...
Other sports: a 9th place in shooting...
Well... another poor day for us. Let's hope tomorrow it will be different. Chances: László Bodrogi (WCH silver medalist, cycling, men's elite individual time trial), fencing (this the the women), László Cseh (swimming, 200 butterfly). There will be Gyurta's semi final and the female water polo&handball teams playing too. Both matches seem to be very hard, versus Australia and Germany, respectively.
Other non-Hungarian events: Serbia sucked dick against Croatia (water polo)! That's a surprise! That means if we finish 2nd in our group, it's not a big problem, because we avoid playing Serbia in the semi finals with this. I saw Spain's hardly-earned victory against China in basketball. LOL! Asia seem to be very strong, doped and supported (by crowd, and referees) this time, in other sports, too. German handball team sucked against Iceland! And Denmark versus South Korea, too! Ouch! Did anybody watch the match? I watch these Asian surprise results very 'carefully'... Btw I still miss the Hungarian team there...
I feel like watching the time trials, but it's at 7:30 AM.... It seems unlikely. I'm guessing Schumacher will win again. He seems to have taken more EPO than the others.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on August 12, 2008, 06:51:44 PM
I feel like watching the time trials, but it's at 7:30 AM.... It seems unlikely. I'm guessing Schumacher will win again. He seems to have taken more EPO than the others.
I would also bet on Schumacher, Germany always has a great time trialist for the biggest events. Let's see if Cancellara wanted to reach top form only for the Olympics (taking maximum EPO dose only for it), and not for the TDF. Therefore he can win I think, I consider him to be the best time trialst on the world. The track seem to be a bit hilly for Bodrogi, top10 is also good for him.
Denmark has two time trialists racing tomorrow, and one of them hates time trials :) We were awarded the extra spot after the beginning of the olympics, and he said "hey, nice chance to practice" :) So there's a candidate for last place: Chris Anker Sørensen. The other guy, Brian Vandborg, is supposed to be good and was 4th in the World Championships in 2006, but he has been really crappy so far this season.
Start list:
Men
Wave 1
13:30:00 39 Matias Medici (Argentina)
13:31:30 38 Fumiyuki Beppu (Japan)
13:33:00 37 Hossein Askari (Iran)
13:34:30 36 Svein Tuft (Canada)
13:36:00 35 Matija Kvasina (Croatia)
13:37:30 34 David George (South Africa)
13:39:00 33 Vasil Kiryienka (Belarus)
13:40:30 32 Matej Jurco (Slovakia)
13:42:00 31 Denys Kostyuk (Ukraine)
13:43:30 30 Steve Cummings (Great Britain)
13:45:00 29 Brian Vandborg (Denmark)
13:46:30 28 Raivis Belohvosciks (Latvia)
13:48:00 27 Robert Gesink (Netherlands)
Wave 2
14:30:00 26 Simon Spilak (Slovenia)
14:31:30 25 Rein Taaramae (Estonia)
14:33:00 24 Andriy Grivko (Ukraine)
14:34:30 23 Ryder Hesjedal (Canada)
14:36:00 22 Andrey Mizourov (Kazakhstan)
14:37:30 21 Przemyslaw Niemec (Poland)
14:39:00 20 Maxime Monfort (Belgium)
14:40:30 19 Vincenzo Nibali (Italy)
14:42:00 18 David Zabriskie (USA)
14:43:30 17 Laszlo Bodrogi (Hungary)
14:45:00 16 Chris Anker Sorensen (Denmark)
14:46:30 15 Bert Grabsch (Germany)
14:48:00 14 Denis Menchov (Russia)
Wave 3
15:30:00 13 Samuel Sánchez (Spain)
15:31:30 12 Santiago Botero (Colombia)
15:33:00 11 Marzio Bruseghin (Italy)
15:34:30 10 Michael Rogers (Australia)
15:36:00 9 Vladimir Karpets (Russia)
15:37:30 8 Kim Kirchen (Luxembourg)
15:39:00 7 Gustav Erik Larsson (Sweden)
15:40:30 6 Levi Leipheimer (USA)
15:42:00 5 Stef Clement (Netherlands)
15:43:30 4 Alberto Contador (Spain)
15:45:00 3 Cadel Evans (Australia)
15:46:30 2 Stefan Schumacher (Germany)
15:48:00 1 Fabian Cancellara (Switzerland)
The times are GMT+8 I think, so six hours minus for Central European times (GMT+1+1 summer time).
I cannot find the profile of the time trial track, although I'm very curious.
The following will take best time :):
13:30:00 39 Matias Medici (Argentina)
13:31:30 38 Fumiyuki Beppu (Japan)
13:33:00 37 Hossein Askari (Iran)
13:34:30 36 Svein Tuft (Canada)
13:36:00 35 Matija Kvasina (Croatia)
13:37:30 34 David George (South Africa)
13:39:00 33 Vasil Kiryienka (Belarus)
13:40:30 32 Matej Jurco (Slovakia)
13:42:00 31 Denys Kostyuk (Ukraine)
13:43:30 30 Steve Cummings (Great Britain)
13:45:00 29 Brian Vandborg (Denmark)
13:46:30 28 Raivis Belohvosciks (Latvia)
13:48:00 27 Robert Gesink (Netherlands)
Wave 2
14:30:00 26 Simon Spilak (Slovenia)
14:31:30 25 Rein Taaramae (Estonia)
14:33:00 24 Andriy Grivko (Ukraine)
14:34:30 23 Ryder Hesjedal (Canada)
14:36:00 22 Andrey Mizourov (Kazakhstan)
14:37:30 21 Przemyslaw Niemec (Poland)
14:39:00 20 Maxime Monfort (Belgium)
14:40:30 19 Vincenzo Nibali (Italy)
14:42:00 18 David Zabriskie (USA)
14:43:30 17 Laszlo Bodrogi (Hungary)
14:45:00 16 Chris Anker Sorensen (Denmark)
14:46:30 15 Bert Grabsch (Germany)
14:48:00 14 Denis Menchov (Russia)
Wave 3
15:30:00 13 Samuel Sánchez (Spain)
15:31:30 12 Santiago Botero (Colombia)
15:33:00 11 Marzio Bruseghin (Italy)
15:34:30 10 Michael Rogers (Australia)
15:36:00 9 Vladimir Karpets (Russia)
15:37:30 8 Kim Kirchen (Luxembourg)
15:39:00 7 Gustav Erik Larsson (Sweden)
15:40:30 6 Levi Leipheimer (USA)
15:42:00 5 Stef Clement (Netherlands)
15:43:30 4 Alberto Contador (Spain)
15:45:00 3 Cadel Evans (Australia)
15:46:30 2 Stefan Schumacher (Germany)
15:48:00 1 Fabian Cancellara (Switzerland)
This is expecting the route to be ~50 km and more or less flat. I don't know how long it is.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on August 12, 2008, 05:41:53 PM
Fencing: another very disappointing day for our fencers, only one man reached top8
Only TOP 16...
Today we had a good start: another silver medal from László Cseh (200 m butterfly), finishing just behind a surprisingly tired Phelps. Daniel Gyurta is finalist in 200 m breaststroke, slight chances for a medal tomorrow.
Wrestling: cheated loss for Tamás Lörincz, lost semi-final for Péter Bácsi.
Weightlifting: very ugly injury of the only Hungarian competitor, check it here: http://www.telesport.hu/igy-serult-meg-baranyai-csak-eros-idegzetueknek
Relatively good day so far. Uncommented/unmentioned Hungarian results:
Very exciting and tight game against Australia for the Hungarian women (waterpolo). I think Ágnes Primász was acting a foul against her in the last Hungarian attack, which resulted in a Hungarian extra (wo)men situation, and an equalizing goal.
Hungary-Australia 7-7 (1-1, 1-1, 1-2, 4-3)
Fencing: two women are in the last 16, let's hope one of them can win a medal. Ildikó Mincza (who is fencing without a bra I guess :)) almost lost against a fencer from Hong Kong, but in the end, won 15-11.
Three combat sporters will be fighting for 3rd-7th places, slight chances for a medal.
László Bodrogi made his start on the time trial track 13 minutes ago.
Damn, Gyurta couldn't do it... :-\
Superdoped Alain Bernard got 200m breastroke golden medal... A few months ago he was 4 secs slower than his time...
Quote from: Chulk on August 14, 2008, 05:26:19 AM
Superdoped Alain Bernard got 200m breastroke golden medal... A few months ago he was 4 secs slower than his time...
I cheered for Hoogenband. Let me guess: Bernard improved because of the new superdress (filled with his gene modified muscles)...
Quote from: Chulk on August 14, 2008, 05:26:19 AM
Superdoped Alain Bernard got 200m breastroke golden medal... A few months ago he was 4 secs slower than his time...
Wow, that's rather blatant :)
F U C K O F F Andrea Minguzzi!!! Eat poisoned spagetti, asshole! >:(
Where's Akoss? He should write the usual daily summary.
Well-done, László Cseh! His third silver medal in Beijing (200 m individual medley), all of these second places were behind ultra-hyper-super-extradoped, gene modified cheater asshole Michael Phelps. If Phelps is going to fail at a dope test in the close future, Cseh becomes a three times olympic champion. :D
Well, it's time to sum up the past Olympic days.
We still suck, this is my first observation. So far: 0 gold, 4 silver and 1 bronze medal for Hungary.
In fencing, don't know what's happening, events are almost finished, and we still only have one little bronze medal from Ildikó Mincza. Today, our big favourite men's epee team sucked in the quarter finals. Guess against who: China (43:45)... It was one of our biggest gold medal chances. Then they took 5th place very easily against Ukraine and Venezuela...
In boxing, finally we won a match, Szellö knocked out his opponent yesterday and advanced to the quarter finals (Tuesday). The others all sucked.
In shooting, Sidi finished in a very disappointing 39th place in another event, which, in his opinion, were his stronger event than the one in which he finished 6th... Olympic title holder Diána Igaly only finished 13th...
Rowing: former world champions Varga/Hirling duo is only participating in the C final (13-18th places)...
Cycling: László Bodrogi sucked on the mountainous terrain in the individual time trial event, finishing in a disappointing 27th place, well off the pace...
Judo: all the events are finished, no medal, no Olympic points, but the referees are faulty in this, too. Against Miklós Ungvári, they were cheating heavily. Dániel Hadfi was very unlucky, he was leading in the match with a yuko and was still attacking, but his Kazakh opponent made a counterattack on him, which meant a waz-ari against Hadfi. In another action, Hadfi throw his opponent on the tatami on the Kazakh's back, which would have meant an ippon for him. The f*cking cheater jury said the Kazakh started the action and not Hadfi, which meant another waz-ari for him, and Hadfi lost the match with this... We finished with four 7th places in judo overall.
Wrestling: not bad. As CTG mentioned, one silver for Fodor&Hungary. In the final, we were 15 seconds from gold, Fodor was just defending, which was a mistake, the Italian Minguzzi (what a disgusting name!) threw him, and won. There was a cheated bronze medal match against Péter Bácsi, the French opponent got 3 points for nothing... Lörincz was very unlucky, he lost with two drawn sets against a Cuban. He was a victim of the new silly rules... He was not the only Hungarian who dropped out of the competition without a commited attack against him...
Tennis: Ágnes Szávay and Gréta Arn sucked against a Japanese duo, so no Hungarian survived the first round there.
Swimming: a bit disappointing 5th place for Dániel Gyurta in 200 breaststroke. If he had swam the time he had swam in the heat round, he would have won the silver medal... But László Cseh won her third silver medal in the games, sucking from Phelps for the third time, but beating Lochte (200 medley). The 4x200 women's freestyle relay finished in a surprisingly good 6th place. Evelyn Verrasztó and the good-looking Nikolett Szepesi just missed out from the 200 backstroke final. Krisztián Takács finished in an unlucky 9th position in 50 metres freestyle. Generally I'm not unsatisfied with the performance of our swimmers.
Athletics: Krisztián Pars, our medal hope, threw 80.07 metres with the hammer, he is in the final of course with that. He had the biggest throw with that in the qualifying round!!! Anikó Kálovics can run tonight in the women's 10 000 metres final.
Springboard diving: Nóra Barta made the last 18 (semi final), she is there lying in the 18th position.
Handball: WE BEAT GERMANY IN A DRAMATIC MATCH!!! From 15-20, our girls won 25-24! Really good. Germany also lost against Sweden, Brazil beat impressive South Korea, so things are really messed up in our group! We will play against Russia 14:45 CET!
1 Russia 5 points/3 matches
2 Hungary 5 points/3 matches
3 Korea 5 points/4 matches
4 Brazil 3 points/4 matches
5 Sweden 2 points/4 matches
6 Germany 2 points/4 matches
Water polo: Good victory with a good defensive play against Spain (8-5). That must be enough for the group victory, which would mean an automatic top4 berth. The women's team beat Greece 10-4, and won the group with that. With that, they are already in the top4, and they will be playing against Italy or Holland for the finals. In the other half of the tree: USA-Australia/China for the final. As for a semi final, Italy is a convenient opponent I think, USA or Australia would have been worse. We have 60% to win our semi final.
Some non-Hungarian events: still cheater Chinese and Korean sportsmen and sportswomen and referees! I saw a good France-Croatia handball match, both teams played really well. France won, poor Croatians, they have a lot of injured key players. A gymnast from Vietnam failed the doping test! That is hilarious, he was finishing in last position there! ;D ;D ;D Serbia just beat USA in water polo (4-2), it seems that maybe they are not as strong now as in most of the cases. Poor Laure Manaudou, she is really out of form. Or she just can't/doesn't want to keep the pace with the ultradoped other swimmers? Don't know the truth, but my dick would really like to feel to be inside her pussy. ;D Federer is in real trouble, lost against Blake... this is annoying, motherfucker Nadal will be Olympic champion and world No.1...
More to come! :-X
Result:
Russia-Hungary 33-24... awful play... ???
2 new doping cases: Jong Su Kim (North Korea), won a silver medal on pistol 50m men and a bronce in pistol 10m .Thi Ngan Thuong Do (Vietnam), took part in gymnastics artistics female events.
Athetics: Usain Bolt won male 100m in 9.69 and celebraiting before the end, what shows he could have done probably a bit faster. AMAZING!
Argentina results:
Male Basketball team beat Iran 97-82 and has already clinched 2nd place in group stage. Will probaly face China or Greece.
Female Hockey team beat Germany 4-0 and is almost qualified for semi-fnals. Last match against the weakest team on the group, New Zealand.
In Yachting, Espinola & Lange finished 1st and 2nd today and are in 3rd position overall after 3 races.
Football team is having a hard time against The Netherlands. Deserves to win but a lucky Dutch goal tied the game 1-1. (Watch Messi's goal, great!)
Edit1: On the 72nd minute, Ustari (GK) injured. Romero substituted him. I have a bad feeling about the rest of the match...
Edit2: End of 90', 1-1. Another 30 minutes of suffering...
Edit3: 105': Magic pass from Messi, nice definition by Di Maria with the outer part of the foot. 2-1 for us. End of ET1. Banega came in for Di Maria (he was quite tired) to gain control of the ball
Edit4: End of match. 2-1. Tuesday, 10 am (GMT+3): Argentina Vs. Brazil in semifinals.
As César Cielo bulleted past through Bernard, Sullivan et al. at 50m freestyle, we have got our first gold! 8) It's the first Olympic victory for Brazilian swimming as well.
Quote from: Chulk on August 16, 2008, 04:08:04 PM
Edit4: End of match. 2-1. Tuesday, 10 am (GMT+3): Argentina Vs. Brazil in semifinals.
Ha! Tuesday 10AM means it's likely I'll be able to watch this, how lucky... ;D
Quote from: Duplode on August 16, 2008, 06:18:55 PM
As César Cielo bulleted past through Bernard, Sullivan et al. at 50m freestyle, we have got our first gold! 8) It's the first Olympic victory for Brazilian swimming as well.
Quote from: Chulk on August 16, 2008, 04:08:04 PM
Edit4: End of match. 2-1. Tuesday, 10 am (GMT+3): Argentina Vs. Brazil in semifinals.
Ha! Tuesday 10AM means it's likely I'll be able to watch this, how lucky... ;D
GOOD LUCK FOR THE MATCH!
No way! ;D ;D
Perez - Curuchet won Madison Competition (Cycling) gold medal! Great for them but specially for Curuchet, who is retiring.
With this gold medal, we climbed form position 66th with 0-0-1 to 40th place with 1-0-1. Brazil is 39th with 1-0-5. We will overtake them as we have Silver for sure in football. But then they will overtake us back, when both Men's and Women's Volleyball teams win their gold medals.
yes I saw that gold, it was a nice race! Congratulations!
Quote from: zaqrack on August 19, 2008, 06:07:02 PM
I saw that gold
I couldn't. I was at university when it happened, I just got out at the same time the football match started and only saw the last 15 mins of 1st half.
Quote from: Chulk on August 19, 2008, 05:58:30 PM
With this gold medal, we climbed form position 66th with 0-0-1 to 40th place with 1-0-1. Brazil is 39th with 1-0-5. We will overtake them as we have Silver for sure in football. But then they will overtake us back, when both Men's and Women's Volleyball teams win their gold medals.
And hopefully we will overtake both of your countries with kayak-canoe gold medals. 0-4-1, still no gold from the Hungarian olympic team, that's annoying - our worst Olympic Games so far.
Our results from the summer Olympic Games (not taking part in 1920 and 1984):
| City | Year | Gold | Silver | Bronze |
| Athens | 2004 | 8 | 6 | 3 |
| Sydney | 2000 | 8 | 6 | 3 |
| Atlanta | 1996 | 7 | 4 | 10 |
| Barcelona | 1992 | 11 | 12 | 7 |
| Seoul | 1988 | 11 | 6 | 6 |
| Moscow | 1980 | 7 | 10 | 15 |
| Montreal | 1976 | 4 | 5 | 13 |
| München | 1972 | 6 | 13 | 16 |
| Mexico City | 1968 | 10 | 10 | 12 |
| Tokyo | 1964 | 10 | 7 | 5 |
| Rome | 1960 | 6 | 8 | 7 |
| Melbourne | 1956 | 9 | 10 | 7 |
| Helsinki | 1952 | 16 | 10 | 16 |
| London | 1948 | 10 | 5 | 12 |
| Berlin | 1936 | 10 | 1 | 5 |
| Los Angeles | 1932 | 6 | 4 | 5 |
| Amsterdam | 1928 | 4 | 5 | 0 |
| Paris | 1924 | 2 | 3 | 4 |
| Stockholm | 1912 | 3 | 2 | 3 |
| London | 1908 | 3 | 4 | 1 |
| St. Louis | 1904 | 2 | 1 | 1 |
| Paris | 1900 | 1 | 2 | 2 |
| Athens | 1896 | 2 | 1 | 3 |
You would be a lot higher if Phelps wasn't born in the same time of Laszlo Cseh...
Quote from: Chulk on August 19, 2008, 07:59:39 PM
You would be a lot higher if Phelps wasn't born in the same time of Laszlo Cseh...
I don't like this kind of 'if' thing. Why? Without Phelps all the top swimmers would be slower and maybe in a very different order - his times are the ethalon now. But you are also right with this, László Cseh is a great talent.
Where are the good old times when swimming was a gold mine for Hungary? :-\ I think it's enough to mention the name of Krisztina Egerszegi, one of the greatest female swimmers ever: 5 times olympic champion (+1 silver, 1 bronze) in backstroke and individual medley swimming; world record holder (1991-2008) of 200 m female backstroke swimming (without Speedo LZR dress, without huge musles, without dopes, but with extremely hard training and excellent swimming technique - so who the f.uck are Kirsty Coventry or Hoeltzer?!?)
How stupid sport is weightlifting... ;D
(http://static.nso.hu/db/01/ED/d000601EDae20f2df1fa4.jpg)
Usain Bolt, 200 m, 19.30... :o
Quote from: Chulk on August 19, 2008, 05:58:30 PM
Perez - Curuchet won Madison Competition (Cycling) gold medal! Great for them but specially for Curuchet, who is retiring.
With this gold medal, we climbed form position 66th with 0-0-1 to 40th place with 1-0-1. Brazil is 39th with 1-0-5. We will overtake them as we have Silver for sure in football. But then they will overtake us back, when both Men's and Women's Volleyball teams win their gold medals.
Congratulations on your first gold medal! As for silvers, at last we two sure ones at men's beach volley (three Brazilian doubles at the semis yesterday, even if one is playing under Georgian colours...) and women's female football. As for volleyball, I'm most of all anxious for the girls match vs. China - after such stellar performances, it will be very painful if they fall again at the semis...
Handball semi-finals (men) :
France 27-24 Russia
Croatia 26-24 Denmark
Poland 28-31 Iceland
Spain 29-24 South Korea
Germany (World Champions) out in series.
Denmark (Euro champion and 3rd in last World championship) out in quarter-finals
Poland (vice-World Champion) out in quarter-finals
Who remains ?
Croatia (vice-Euro champion), France (future winner ;D), Iceland (sparring partner) and Spain (2nd sparring partner).
Winner of Croatia-France (France, of course, we need a revenge of last Euro semi-finals) is future winner. Spain and Iceland are good, but not good enough.
Go France, go !
This means no more medals for Denmark :-[
Damn... we will have a very hard semi-final in water polo versus Montenegro - they kicked world champion's ass (Croatia). Very easy for Serbia, they will face the United States in the other semi. But at least we will win the bronze match versus USA... ;D
5th doping case. Lyudmila Blonska (Ukr), Heptatlon women. She is Silver medalist so far, but if 2nd test is positive again, she'll lose it and probably be suspended for life as it would be her 2nd doping case (suspended in 2003-2005).
Cute girl: Sarah Walker, New Zealand, BMX. ;)
(http://images.tvnz.co.nz/tvnz_images/sport/cycling/walker_sarah_bmx_d.jpg)
Oh hell, why can't our teams stop getting psyched out at every decisive moment?! First the female handball squandered three matches before finally getting held at 5th place in the group. After that, the ghastly performance of men's football against, of all adversaries, Argentina... and just when it seemed the women football team found enough confidence by finally - and soundly - beating the Germans they let it escape in the same circumnstances of four years ago :'( And now Márcio/Fábio Luiz lose the first set of beach volley final from a 6-point lead, then manage a stellar recovery from a seemingly lost second set... only to lose 15-4 at the tie break! Damn! >:( :'(
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Now there are few events where we have actual gold/silver chances, and it seems our medal count will be below expectancies. National hopes are on both volleyball teams (the girls haven't lost a single set yet, c'mon!), while Maurren Maggi (fm. long jump) has some chance to partly make up partly for Fabiana Murer's (fm. pole vault) troubles and Jardel Gregorio's (m. triple jump) semi-flop in athletics.
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PS.: Hungarians, I've just seen your female handball squad lost to Russia on the semis. Too bad, I wished to see you through... :(
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!! First gold medal for Hungary: Attila Vajda, canoe, 1000 m. Finally!!! ;)
Argh... Only second place from the girls... :-\ >:( Medals: 1-5-1 at the moment.
Bronze medal from the Kozmann-Kiss C-2. Over every expectations... Our C-2 was maybe the best few months ago. But then... you remember my post from July about the tragic death of György Kolonics, member of this C-2 with Kozmann. This bronze medal means more than a gold for the Hungarian sport. Well-done guys! Nice racing as a mark of esteem in remembrance of Kolonics!
Damn, it was a tight match... Male water polo, semi-final:
Hungary - Montenegro 11-9 (3-4, 3-3, 3-0, 2-2)
The other semi is coming soon: Serbia - United States. I give 99 percent for Serbian victory. And I hope to see that 1 percent, we would kick ass in the final versus yankees, like we did in Sydney 2000 when we beated Russia in the final by 7 goals (13-6).
YES ! Handball men semi-finals : France 25-23 Croatia
Olympic Champions of 2004 beaten twice by France during these Olympic Games. ;D
Now, aim for the gold versus Spain or Iceland !
Aaaand a surprising silver medal for Denmark in two-man 1000m kayak! The Hungarians were leading but then completely lost it in the end...
So, medal count: 2-2-3. Better than expected, and still better than Hungary on the medal table :) But probably not for long. No more medals seem to be possible for Denmark.
Lena Schöneborn, modern pentathlon, Germany... Nice! ;)
(http://www.lena-schoeneborn.de/gal/DKB-WM_in_Berlin/LaufenimHalbfinale.jpg)
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on August 22, 2008, 02:04:51 PM
Aaaand a surprising silver medal for Denmark in two-man 1000m kayak! The Hungarians were leading but then completely lost it in the end...
So, medal count: 2-2-3. Better than expected, and still better than Hungary on the medal table :) But probably not for long. No more medals seem to be possible for Denmark.
Kammerer and Kucsera had kamikaze tactics - it did not work... :-\ Our medal chances: one or two gold medals tomorrow in female kayak (K-1, K-2), maybe some silver and bronze medals too. And our male water polo team is at least silver medalist - we couldn't beat Serbia in the last 4 years but that last victory was in the final of Athens 2004... ;)
Wow, nice start from Iceland in the male handball semi-final! 5-0 versus Spain at the moment! :o
2 more bronze medals for us. Yesterday, Espinola-Lange won theirs in Yatching (Tornado) and just an hour ago, Las Leonas (Female Hockey Team) beat Germany 3-1 for the bronze medal. In 2 hours, we'll face Dream Team (hopefully not today) for semi-finals (male Basketball)
Quote from: Chulk on August 22, 2008, 02:37:44 PM
In 2 hours, we'll face Dream Team (hopefully not today) for semi-finals (male Basketball)
Let's hope Argentina can make the high and mighty "Dream Team" suck! ;)
WHAT THE HELL?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Serbia - United States 5-10 in male water polo, USA is in the final. Yankees demolished the No 1. water polo team on Earth! Sapic, the best player ever just suffered - we could never switch him off from the game. I'm afraid of the final... :-\
Edit: Especially because refrees will help the USA - it's 100%
Argentina - United States 81–101 (11–30, 29–19, 24–29, 17–23); damn... :-\
Iceland is finalist in male handball, it's really a nice surprise. I hope to see them winning the gold.
Quote from: CTG on August 22, 2008, 06:38:46 PM
Argentina - United States 81–101 (11–30, 29–19, 24–29, 17–23); damn... :-\
Really damn! That 1st quarter after Ginobili's injury really left us out of the game. Even after our look-like coming back in 2nd quarter, we couldn't keep up with them as we didn't have our starting SG (Ginobili) and our starting SF (Nocioni) was injured and didn't know if he was playing until the very last minute.
Anyway, still the thightest game in Olympics for USA, with 'only' 20 points advantage.
Tonight, football final. Sunday, at 14hs (Beijing time, I guess GMT-8), Basketball Bronze medal match against Lithuania (hoping the game to be different from the one in groups fase)
Quote from: CTGIceland is finalist in male handball, it's really a nice surprise. I hope to see them winning the gold.
No way ! Go France, go ! Let's catch this 6th gold medal !!! 8)
We may get another gold medal tomorrow too with boxing : one guy is finalist (don't ask me his name nor the weight concerned, I don't know).
Still left...
Good case: 3 golden medals (and a bronze) in kayak-canoe, 1 in water polo.
Expected: 1 golden medal (1 silver and 1 bronze) in kayak-canoe, 1 in water polo.
Worst case: only silver/bronze medals in kayak-canoe, silver in water polo.
Gold medal for Arg in football! wheeee!
Well done Argentina : football revenge of 1996. ;-)
Quote from: Krys TOFF on August 22, 2008, 10:46:47 PM
Quote from: CTGIceland is finalist in male handball, it's really a nice surprise. I hope to see them winning the gold.
No way ! Go France, go ! Let's catch this 6th gold medal !!! 8)
We may get another gold medal tomorrow too with boxing : one guy is finalist (don't ask me his name nor the weight concerned, I don't know).
I forgot that cross bicycle was not done when I posted. done this morning with, of course, J. Absalon winner. 2nd gold medal for him after Athens in 2004. :)
Boxing : the French guy lost today versus the boxer of Ukraine. But there's another French in final for boxing who will play tomorrow. Still 2 more medals planned (boxing and male handball). I hope they will be both in gold and not in silver, especially in men handball. ;)
Silver medal in boxing (who cares ?) but GOLD MEDAL in men handball versus Iceland. Hell yeah !
(http://i.eurosport.fr/2008/08/24/462323-3365845-151-113.jpg)
Women handball got 5th place. Too bad they got a bad start in the tournament and had to play versus Russia in quarter-finals (lost by 1 point only after 2 extended time, reminds me of defeat versus Germany in last world championship semi-final :-\). Else they could have had a potential medal too.
Finally, France got 10th place with 40 medals (7 gold, 16 silver and 17 bronze), more medals than South Korea, Japan and Italy who are ranked before us because they have more gold.
USA still got the most amount of medal (110) but are now only 2nd behind very strong China. I think China will now remain on top of ranking for a long time, just like USA were until now and USSR before too. A new era starts with China leadership in Olympics.
BUT if we count European Union as 1 country (including Romania and Bulgaria recently enlisted but without candidates not yet accepted), we are the winners with 86 gold medals !!! ;D
Krys: your signature is really old, and it can only be understood if you know Alain :)
What's the problem with my "Save a tree, eat a beaver !" signature ? :P ;D
There isn't a problem - it reminds me of Alain who liked beavers. I like trees too. But there are far more trees in the world than there are beavers. Maybe saving beavers is more important...
OK then, I changed my signature to an ad for BATRacer. ;)
Some great results for Brazilian women at the final days: Maurren Maggi won long jump and became the first woman to get a gold medal for Brazil in individual sports. The female volleyball squad crowned a great tournament and killed their ghosts by beating USA 3-1 at the final match. Their male counterparts also faced the United States but were beaten 3-1 on a nearly flawless performance by the North Americans - it seems our all-conquering squad of the recent years has definitely entered a generation shift period. Overall, we finished at 23rd positin on medal table (3g/4s/8b), matching our best performance in total number of medals (Atlanta '96, 3/3/9) but highlighting that, all things considered, we had not much real progress from four years ago to now...
3-5-2 at the end (21st on medal table, we are behind Romania :-\ but ahead of Slovakia :D), shame on the Hungarian olympic team and especially our sport leaders.
Gold:
Attila Vajda, canoe (C-1), 1000 m
Katalin Kovács - Natasa Janics, kayak (K-2), 500 m
male water polo team YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!!! Third time in a row! Where are the fuckin' Serbians? Where are they? NOWHERE!!! ;D And we fucked yankee asses in the final: Hungary - United States 14-10 (6-4, 3-4, 2-1, 3-1)
Silver:
László Cseh 3x, swimming, 400 m individual medley, 200 m individual medley, 200 m butterfly (all behind Phelps, the motherfucker cheater autist butthole)
Zoltán Fodor, Greco-Roman wrestling (84 kg) - surprise, but still skid off Minguzzi
Katalin Kovács, Natasa Janics, Gabriella Szabó, Danuta Kozák, kayak (K-4), 1000 m
Bronze:
Ildikó Mincza-Nébald, female epee
György Kozmann - Tamás Kiss, canoe (C-2), 1000 m
Expected medals - which did not come true:
Female water polo team (even a gold could be possible for them - finished 4th)
Female handball team (most of people expected a medal from them - I didn't - but they played quite bad and in spite of this fact they reached a lucky 4th place with one really good match versus Romania (Transsylvania belongs to Hungary!!! ;D))
Katalin Kovács (K-1, 500 m - she's far the best in female kayak but had a very bad day...)
Krisztián Pars (hammer throwing, his season record would be enough for a silver but finished only 4th)
Emese Kovács (swimmer, she said she must be able to beat the world record but couldn't even qualify to the second round...)
Dániel Gyurta (swimmer, silver medalist of Athens, broke the European record in the first round, but finished only 5th with his second best time ever in the final - he admitted he can't do his best in the morning... skid of American lobby for morning finals, maybe their dopes have higher effect in that part of the day...)
Diána Igaly (skeet, she won in Athens - out of TOP10 now)
Zsolt Nemcsik (sabre, silver medalist of Athens, winning some world events in the last few years - couldn't even qualify to 16)
Dániel Hadfi and Miklós Ungvári (judo, both very talented with good rankings at world and European championships - both of them falled because of cheater refrees...)
and some other competitors in kayak-canoe, fencing, wrestling, boxing...
Well, the main results are told there, so I won't write them down again, just some comments.
Kayak: K1 500 metres women, I think Natasa Janics should have competed instead of Katalin Kovács. Janics is better in her head, a competitive girl, who always does her best on the day of the competition. We missed a gold medal there.
In judo, wrestling, boxing and fencing, we had very good chances. 1 gold in judo, 2 in fencing (plus the other medals) would have been realistic. I'm saying this after knowing their WCH and ECH results. In these sports the match is too much in the referee's hands. They help well-lobbied nations, like France and Italy in fencing, Russia in wrestling etc. It is the most apparent in the olympics, that's why we sucked there. That spoiled very much the performance of the Hungarian olympic team.
In handball, the refs were cheating against Hungary and for Korea in the bronze medal battle. It was very disgusting that during the whole olympic games, Koreans, Chinese and other Asians were helped to a big extent by the referees. That's why I'm saying the olympics are not sports now, Hungary should wake up from the dreams. It's the demonstration of the power of countries, referees, doctors and politics and lobbying is the key, sportsmen and sportswomen are just puppets.
We finished 21st on the medal table, it's a pity that Romania was ahead of us. But it is nice to beat Slovakia. From typical Stunts nations, France and Germany finished well above us, while we beat Brazil and Denmark on the medal table.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on August 26, 2008, 10:58:00 AM
That's why I'm saying the olympics are not sports now, Hungary should wake up from the dreams. It's the demonstration of the power of countries, referees, doctors and politics and lobbying is the key, sportsmen and sportswomen are just puppets.
::)
On the other hand it's worth to mention: Hungary became wet sport specialist.
In/on the water: 3-4-1 (swimming, kayak-canoe, water polo)
Other sports: 0-1-1 (wrestling, epee)
Nikolai Valuev vs John Ruiz heavyweight eliminator fight... well, that was a disappointing match. The "Beast from the East" can't really use his size to knock out his opponents and also has terrible technique, while Ruiz is just boring and weak. Result: split decision victory for the Russian (116:113, 116:111, 113:114).
Test matches of Alba Volán ice hockey EBEL (=AUT-1) team:
Dunaújvárosi Acélbikák (HUN-1)-Alba Volán 3-3, Alba won in penalty shootout
Alba Volán-HC Briancon (FRA-1) 2-2, Briancon won in penalty shootout
Alba Volán-HC Briancon (FRA-1) 2-1
Alba Volán-Hokej Sumperk (CZE-3) 1-0 - tournament, Poland
Alba Volán-Hockey Haernösand (SWE-3) 5-1 - tournament, Poland
Alba Volán-Bad Nauheim (GER-3) 2-1 - tournament, Poland
Dunaújvárosi Acélbikák (HUN-1)-Alba Volán 2-5
Graz 99ers (AUT-1)-Alba Volán 2-0
More to come before EBEL Start:
Újpesti TE (HUN-1)-Alba Volán
Vienna Capitals (AUT-1)-Alba Volán
Alba Volán-Vienna Capitals (AUT-1)
First EBEL game 19/9:
Black Wings Linz (AUT-1)-Alba Volán
Rumours say Lance Armstrong is planning a big comeback at Tour de France 2009... >:(
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080908/sports/cycle_armstrong_comeback
Quote from: CTG on September 09, 2008, 11:18:02 AM
Rumours say Lance Armstrong is planning a big comeback at Tour de France 2009... >:(
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080908/sports/cycle_armstrong_comeback
TDF organizers already warned him about the new stricter doping control rules. ;D If I'm not mistaken, they still don't consider Armstrong a real champion, rather a doping machine. But they couldn't make him fail a doping test (damn).
I'm quite surprised that he will be back, but I'm sure he will win the tour then (or finally decide not to participate)
I saw Vuelta a Espana on Eurosport today. On this stage, the riders had to face the famous-unfamous Angliru hill, which is the steepest hill on the three major grand tours (Tour, Giro, Vuelta). On some sections, it is 23,6% steep... Fortunately, there were no rain like in 2002 on this hill, but fog occured there. By the way, Contador won the stage. By the way, Armstrong is a big dick.
Ice hockey, preparration matches:
Alba Volán-Újpest (HUN-1) 6-3
Vienna Capitals (AUT-1)-Alba Volán 2-3 (1-1, 1-1, 0-1) -> really great result and performance from the team.
About the signings:
New players in the team:
Levente Szuper (HUN, from Milano Vipers ITA-1)
Gergö Nagy (HUN, from Red Bull Salzburg II AUT-2)
Dávid Jobb (HUN, from Dunaújváros HUN-1)
Roland Hajós (HUN, from HK Trnava SVK Junior-1)
Ádám Hegyi (HUN, from Bad Nauheim GER Junior-X)
Dániel Fekete (HUN, from Trondheim IK NOR-1)
Todd Jackson (USA, from Newcastle Vipers GBR-1)
Blake Forsyth (CAN, from Idaho Steelheads ECHL)
Andreas Byström (SWE, from Malmö Redhawks SWE-2)
Nathan Martz (CAN, from Storhamar NOR-1)
Ryan Bonni (CAN, from Soenderjyske DEN-1)
Released:
Toni Sihvonen (FIN, to Sports Vaasa FIN-2)
Guntis Galvins (LAT, to Dinamo Riga KHL)
Chris Allen (USA, to High1 KOR-1)
Krisztián Budai (HUN, to Kezmarok SVK-1)
Ádám Péter Németh (HUN, to Újpest HUN-1)
Balázs Kangyal, Tamás Gröschl, Bence Svasznek, Gergely Majoross, Péter Németh (all HUN, all to Budapest Stars HUN-1)
Sam Ftorek (USA, to ?)
Gergely Borostyán (HUN, to ?)
It's a bit late now few months after the Olympic Games but still... ;D
(http://www.sott.net/image/image/8449/made_in_china.jpg)
Funny pic! Now, this reminded me I still haven't updated Standings on South American qualifiers, right to it.
Don King offered 100,000,000 USD for a Vitali Klitschko vs Wladimir Klitschko match. What an asshole... >:(
Quote from: CTG on October 21, 2008, 11:48:22 AM
Don King offered 100,000,000 USD for a Vitali Klitschko vs Wladimir Klitschko match. What an asshole... >:(
Mmmm, who are these 3 people you talk about ? :D
Some boxing probably. I don't like boxing. :P ;D
Quote from: Krys TOFF on October 21, 2008, 12:56:18 PM
Quote from: CTG on October 21, 2008, 11:48:22 AM
Don King offered 100,000,000 USD for a Vitali Klitschko vs Wladimir Klitschko match. What an asshole... >:(
Mmmm, who are these 3 people you talk about ? :D
Some boxing probably. I don't like boxing. :P ;D
Yep, boxing. If you don't like that, don't make a comment. :P
(Or open a new topic about positions in sex ;D)
Quote from: CTG
Yep, boxing. If you don't like that, don't make a comment. :P
It was not a comment, it was a question to confirm if it's really boxing or not. ;D
Rugby qualifiers:
Hungary - Denmark 39-12 ;D
:o
I didn't know Denmark had a rugby team :)
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on November 05, 2008, 06:32:14 PM
:o
I didn't know Denmark had a rugby team :)
I didn't know Denmark and Hungary ever know the word rugby. :D
Quote from: Krys TOFF on November 05, 2008, 10:29:05 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on November 05, 2008, 06:32:14 PM
:o
I didn't know Denmark had a rugby team :)
I didn't know Denmark and Hungary ever know the word rugby. :D
Beware snail-eaters - we are coming! ;D
Quote from: Krys TOFF on November 05, 2008, 10:29:05 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on November 05, 2008, 06:32:14 PM
:o
I didn't know Denmark had a rugby team :)
I didn't know Denmark and Hungary ever know the word rugby. :D
You didn't know Argentina could kick your ass twice at home, but...
Quote from: Krys TOFF
Sorry, I couldn't resist :D
Quote from: Chulk on November 06, 2008, 12:56:07 AM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on November 05, 2008, 10:29:05 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on November 05, 2008, 06:32:14 PM
:o
I didn't know Denmark had a rugby team :)
I didn't know Denmark and Hungary ever know the word rugby. :D
You didn't know Argentina could kick your ass twice at home, but...
Quote from: Krys TOFF
Sorry, I couldn't resist :D
Chulk vs Töff, nice "flamewar"! ;D
Quote from: Chulk on November 06, 2008, 12:56:07 AM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on November 05, 2008, 10:29:05 PM
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on November 05, 2008, 06:32:14 PM
:o
I didn't know Denmark had a rugby team :)
I didn't know Denmark and Hungary ever know the word rugby. :D
You didn't know Argentina could kick your ass twice at home, but...
Quote from: Krys TOFF
Sorry, I couldn't resist :D
Oh yes, last WC. BAD memories... We learnt everything about rugby to Argentinians (most of them play in French clubs) and this is how they are thankfull. :(
Quote from: Krys TOFF on November 06, 2008, 12:09:00 PM
Oh yes, last WC. BAD memories... We learnt everything about rugby to Argentinians (most of them play in French clubs) and this is how they are thankfull. :(
Wisemen say it's an honor when the stundent beats the master... so you should be proud. BTW, I think you'll beat us this weekend.
Quote from: Chulk on November 06, 2008, 01:52:42 PM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on November 06, 2008, 12:09:00 PM
Oh yes, last WC. BAD memories... We learnt everything about rugby to Argentinians (most of them play in French clubs) and this is how they are thankfull. :(
Wisemen say it's an honor when the stundent beats the master... so you should be proud. BTW, I think you'll beat us this weekend.
It seems I'm not so wise then. ;D
Anyway, French team is in a new dynamic, with new managers and the come-back of the real French style rugby, what English call "French flair" : a rugby made of movements, of improvisations, of speed. Not the too static and defensive style that the team tend to use in last WC.
But there are some new players with not enough experience of very high level, we'll see in the next matches if the "old new system" is already in place or not. It was not completely in place in last 6 nations tournament (we ended 3rd, same points than England but match versus England lost so we're behind in ranking), but some good things were made. We'll see. ;)
Quote from: Krys TOFF on November 06, 2008, 03:42:45 PM
Quote from: Chulk on November 06, 2008, 01:52:42 PM
Quote from: Krys TOFF on November 06, 2008, 12:09:00 PM
Oh yes, last WC. BAD memories... We learnt everything about rugby to Argentinians (most of them play in French clubs) and this is how they are thankfull. :(
Wisemen say it's an honor when the stundent beats the master... so you should be proud. BTW, I think you'll beat us this weekend.
It seems I'm not so wise then. ;D
Anyway, French team is in a new dynamic, with new managers and the come-back of the real French style rugby, what English call "French flair" : a rugby made of movements, of improvisations, of speed.
It's know as "Rugby Champagne" here...
Painful coincidence in Hungarian national male handball team: both of our goalkeepers injured on the same day. Nándor Fazekas suffered a serious ankle injury at the training of Gummersbach, while Nedad Puljezevic (Pick Szeged) saved a shot in a bad way, a ribbon is broken in his upper arm. Bad luck... :-\
Female handball, European Champions League, group phase:
Two rounds, very different feelings about them.
Györi Audi ETO KC - Ikast Brande EH 25-27 (15-11)
Typical Hungarian way of losing a match: ETO was already leading by 8 goals in the first half (15-7) but then... Annoying match! Görbicz scored only 5 goals - health problems (felt bad during the match - it turned out she has blood pressure problems). Some bad news after the match: Aurelia Bradeanu, one of the best players in the team is pregnant - bad timing from the aspect of the team.
Györi Audi ETO KC - Zvezda Zvenigorod 29-23 (17-10)
Surprisingly easy victory versus the Russian title holder - especially because Görbicz (6 goals/4 from penalty) is not in good physical shape at the moment (too many injuries this year, blood pressure, private life problems...).
Kometal Skopje will be an easier opponent. Or at least I hope... ETO isn't too good in the last few months: only second in Hungarian championship at the moment behind the peasant team of Debrecen (Debrecen - ETO 24-22, bah).
Males:
SG Flensburg Handewitt - MKB Veszprém KC 32-29 (15-15)
Germans played too fast...
Alba Volán is lying is 7th position in the Austian ice hockey league. Quite good. Two players have to face a serious ban after having a fight against Austrian national team players of RBS Salzburg. Austrian judges seem to be a bit too biased. Last game: Linz-Alba Volán 4-3 after extra time -> 1 pt for Volán.
Hungarian-Romanian (Tranysylvanian) league (MOL League) 6th place team Dunaújváros is competing in Continental Cup 3rd round against very strong teams (powered by foreign Canadian, Swedish players): Dunaújváros-Bolzano Foxes/ITA 2-5, Dunaújváros-Coventry Blaze/GBR 4-6. Battle for 3rd place tomorrow: Maribor/SLO-Dunaújváros Steel Bulls.
Olympic Qualifyers, second round: HUN-SRB 9-1, HUN-CRO 6-1, HUN-LTU 5-2. Last round in February, winners will advance to Vancouver 2010: LAT, ITA, UKR, HUN. Tough...
Beijing 2008, semi-official news! The silver and bronze medalists of male hammer throwing, Belarus Vadim Devyatovskiy and Ivan Tsikhan tested positive for traces of testosterone - it's very likely that they lose their medals and then 4th place Krisztián Pars (HUN) will step up to 2nd. A little good thing after this shameful Hungarian performace at the Olympic Games: our medal collection will grow to 3-6-2.
Quote from: CTG on December 11, 2008, 01:00:03 PM
Beijing 2008, semi-official news! The silver and bronze medalists of male hammer throwing, Belarus Vadim Devyatovskiy and Ivan Tsikhan tested positive for traces of testosterone - it's very likely that they lose their medals and then 4th place Krisztián Pars (HUN) will step up to 2nd. A little good thing after this shameful Hungarian performace at the Olympic Games: our medal collection will grow to 3-6-2.
It became official. :)
Heavyweight boxing:
The good old hero, Evander Holyfield tried his best and faced Nikolay "The Beast from the East" Valuev for the WBA title. Holyfield showed up an excellent performance, teaching the giant Russian how to play this sport - refrees were thinking in a very different way, cheating with points for Valuev. Scores: 114-114, 115-114, 116-112 for the Russian. The audience was upset with the result (in Germany!!! Valuev is at Sauerland!), so am I. Professional boxing is just theater with fixed results and with "untouchable" champions. DISGUSTING!!!
I want to see Vitali Klitschko vs Nikolay Valuev. The beast will be knocked out.
Some news:
Alba Volán is lying in last position in Austrian Ice Hockey League (EBEL), but they are only 1 pt away from 8th - playoff - place. Austrian hockey federation punished very seriously Volán after the two Canadian players of the Hungarian team fighted against Austrian national team players of Red Bull Salzburg, who provoced them. Austrians were very biased, gave a ban to the 2 key players, and plus the fact that they cannot be replaced by other players. Volán were playing with only 3 lines in their last games (injuries, U20 WCH matched also gave no help to Alba), but the bad period seem to be over. They gained a new North American player from AHL, and will fight against 9th place Graz tomorrow.
Hungarian U20 ice hockey team was relegated from division I (placement 21st in the world for this generation) after facing the opponents of the stronger group. This was a weak generation, but the next one will hit: Hungary have NHL hope players at 1992-93 born guys.
Hungary, France and Denmark had very miserable female handball ECH tournaments... France did not qualify to main round, Denmark finished 11th, Hungary 8th. These teams met in the group stage: HUN-FRA 29-26, DEN-FRA 24-23, HUN-DEN 26-26. Hungary had some bad luck (harder group at main round - the other group contained MKD, CRO, SWE, BLR... no comment...), but the main problem was that they really went out of world class players except for Görbicz, Vérten and Pálinger... Some middle class players who fill the Hungarian squad's most places cannot win the WCH. With good team management and moral we can earn a bit better places, but no tournament wins like in the early past...
BÖFF
Quote from: Akoss Poo on December 22, 2008, 05:52:50 PM
France did not qualify to main round, Denmark finished 11th, Hungary 8th. These teams met in the group stage: HUN-FRA 29-26, DEN-FRA 24-23, HUN-DEN 26-26.
Logically, France didn't qualified, but it was always with sharp results. Not so bad for a brand new French female handball team (60% of new players).
WHO CARES ABOUT FEMALE HANDBALL??
???
:-[
:-X
:)
Greatest success of Hungarian professional boxing ever: we have two active world champions at the moment. Zsolt Erdei (30-0, 17 KOs) defended his WBO light heavyweight title versus Yuri Barashian (25-5, 17 KOs). The same night, Károly Balzsay (20-0, 14 KOs) dethroned the formerly unbeaten WBO super middleweight champion, Dennis Inkin (34-1, 24 KOs) in a very tight and good match by points. Well-done, guys! What a shame there's no chance for them to challenge the top fighters (Calzaghe, Roy Jones, Tarver, Dawson, Kessler, etc.) - they are both too dangerous compared to their low PPV value for American televisions.
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on December 22, 2008, 11:18:34 PM
WHO CARES ABOUT FEMALE HANDBALL??
???
:-[
:-X
:)
Who cares about any female sport?? (Except for pole vault, Isinbayeva rocks!)
Quote from: Chulk on January 11, 2009, 10:03:38 PM
Except for pole vault, Isinbayeva rocks!
She's very hot!!!
Only a few days left to male handball world championship... Hungary seems to be a dark horse again: we can beat anybody but also we can lose versus any teams.
Preliminary round
Group A: Argentina, Australia, France, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia
Group B: Croatia, Cuba, Kuwait, South Corea, Spain, Sweden
Group C: Algeria, Macedonia, Germany, Poland, Russia, Tunisia
Group D: Brasil, Denmark, Egypt, Norway, Saudi Arabia, Serbia
I miss Iceland very much...
Hahaha, the olympic silver medals aren't in there :) And it's full of crap teams...
Here are my guesses :
Gr A : France > Hungary > Romania (just because Sania is injured, or else they can be 2nd :P) > Slovakia > Argentina > Australia
Gr B : Croatia > Spain > Sweden (not yet back to its past glory) > South Corea > Cuba > Kuwait
Gr C : Germany (even if they got a severe defeat versus Spain recently ) > Poland > Russia > Tunisia > Algeria > Macedonia
Gr D : Serbia > Denmark > Norway > Egypt > Brasil > Saudi Arabia
Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Australia present, but no Iceland, no Czech Republic, ... ::)
Quote from: Krys TOFF on January 13, 2009, 03:48:17 PM
Romania (just because Sania is injured, or else they can be 2nd :P)
Romania will have nice suck versus Hungary - not because of Sania, but because we are better than those gipsies! :P
My guesses:
A 1 France 2 Hungary 3 Argentina 4 Slovakia 5 Romania 6 Australia
B 1 Spain 2 Croatia 3 Sweden 4 South Korea 5 Cuba 6 Kuwait
C 1 Germany 2 Tunisia 3 Russia 4 Poland 5 Macedonia 6 Algeria
D 1 Denmark 2 Norway 3 Egypt 4 Serbia 5 Brazil 6 Saudi Arabia
Quote from: Akoss Poo on January 15, 2009, 06:52:34 PM
My guesses:
A 1 France 2 Hungary 3 Argentina 4 Slovakia 5 Romania 6 Australia
B 1 Spain 2 Croatia 3 Sweden 4 South Korea 5 Cuba 6 Kuwait
C 1 Germany 2 Tunisia 3 Russia 4 Poland 5 Macedonia 6 Algeria
D 1 Denmark 2 Norway 3 Egypt 4 Serbia 5 Brazil 6 Saudi Arabia
May God listen to you!
Let's see...
Group A: Töff, CTG/Poo/Zak, Meganium, Friker
Group B: Mislav, Halfgammon
Group C: Kalpens/DJ
Group D: Bonzai/Lise/SB/Lene, dstien, Duplode
Quite an interesting tournament for Stunts pipsqueaks!
My tips
Group A: 1 France 2 Hungary 3 Romania 4 Argentina 5 Slovakia 6 Australia
Group B: 1 Croatia 2 Spain 3 South Korea 4 Sweden 5 Cuba 6 Kuwait
Group C: 1 Germany 2 Russia 3 Poland 4 Tunisia 5 Macedonia 6 Algeria
Group D: 1 Denmark 2 Egypt 3 Serbia 4 Norway 5 Brazil 6 Saudi Arabia
Quote from: Chulk on January 15, 2009, 07:28:58 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on January 15, 2009, 06:52:34 PM
My guesses:
A 1 France 2 Hungary 3 Argentina 4 Slovakia 5 Romania 6 Australia
May God listen to you!
Don't dream too much, Argentina will loose versus Romania and Slovakia. They sill end 5th, beating Australia only I think.
Quote from: Krys TOFF on January 16, 2009, 11:38:46 AM
Quote from: Chulk on January 15, 2009, 07:28:58 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo on January 15, 2009, 06:52:34 PM
My guesses:
A 1 France 2 Hungary 3 Argentina 4 Slovakia 5 Romania 6 Australia
May God listen to you!
Don't dream too much, Argentina will loose versus Romania and Slovakia. They sill end 5th, beating Australia only I think.
I remember there was a very good Argentinian handball team some years ago in the WCH, finishing fifth in the group where all the other teams finished later in the top6 on that WCH, and meant some threat to those teams - not including Hungary, who beat them by 12 goals - but they were really good. It's hard to compare the strength of the European and the non-European teams, but Hungary are clearly much better than Slovakia, and a bit more than Romania. I think Argentina can beat them! Australia is the outsider, take it for granted, on the opening game, they will lose by 20-25 goals against Hungary. :P
Edit: Croatia-South Korea 27-26... surprisingly close... dirty Asians!
Results in our group:
Slovakia-Argentina 27-25
Hungary-Australia 41-17
Weak game by SVK and HUN, too...
The first real big game:
Germany-Russia 26-26
Damned Slovaks! Really lucky draw for them against us. What's more, they beat Romania (it was about the first time when I wanted to see Romania winning in sports), so we brought that result to the main round.
Surprisingly, Russia and Spain are not in the main round!
Our group:
Croatia 4, France 4, Sweden 2, Hungary 1, Slovakia 1, South Korea 0 pts.
The other:
Denmark 4, Germany 4, Macedonia 2, Serbia 2, Poland 0, Norway 0.
My guess:
E 1 FRA 2 CRO 3 SWE 4 HUN 5 SVK 6 ROK in the end.
F 1 DEN 2 GER 3 SRB 4 NOR 5 POL 6 MKD
BÖFF!!!
1st qualif round impressions :
Suprising Macedonia, kicking out decreasing Russia.
Confirmation of Sweden's come-back. Still not back to the higly dominative team of the 90s, but improving tournament after tournament with a young team. Probably back to the top for the next Olympics when its players will have learn some more experience.
Confirmation that South Korea can always surprise any top team, kicking out Spain from main round.
Strong Germany back after a slow start versus Russia (not penalizing for them as Russia is eliminated from main round) with a good victory versus Poland.
Solid Denmark and Croatia, it was expected too.
As for France, well, domination in score is not so real, Bertrand Gilles is not really replaced but yet an increasing French team able to improve its performance when opposition is there, like versus Slovakia and Hungary. France end the 1st round with the best defence of all groups, that's a good news for the next matchs. And Daniel Narcisse is back after beeing ill at the start of the tournament, so I have good hopes for France. :)
LOL Slovakia is good! Beat Korea! It seems in our preliminary group not France's opponents were too weak... France was too strong. Let's see HUN-CRO tonight, the two teams know each other, in their last match on ECH qualifiers, Hungary won at home 30-28. Clearly much more chance than against there was against France! My beat is a close loss: 32-29 to Croatia.
Hungary lost versus Croatia, but with a not so sharp score : 27-22.
Good result of Hungary versus Sweden.
On 1st group, France and Croatia are already qualified for semi-finals, with no defeat so far. Last match of the round will be France-CRoatia, result will only define the opponents according to 2nd group results.
Hungary can end 3rd of the group if they beat South Korea.
On 2nd group, Germany, Poland, Denmark and Norway can still be qualified, much sharper fight than on 2st group.
The France-Croatia match will have no importance. These 2 teams are really the best, they will win their semi finals, and will meet in the final to decide the biggest things. It's a pity that Hungary is not in the other group or there are no quarter final stage, they maybe would have a chance to make the semi finals.
Now 6th place is realistic for Hungary. We can beat Korea I think (tip: 28-26 to HUN), and it's 95%, that it would mean a 3rd place in our group. Slovakia-Sweden can be a very big match. For the 5th/6th placement match, we will probably meet the loser of the Germany-Denmark game, so I think the 6th place is more realistic for us. That is my guess for the Hungarian team.
Tips for final medals: 1 Croatia 2 France 3 Denmark
Russia is really sucking dick! Slovakia is surprisingly strong.
Quote from: Akoss Poo on January 27, 2009, 01:45:27 PM
Slovakia is surprisingly strong.
It's not a suprise. ;)
Usrin The Slovak
Croatia 22-19 France.
Croatian B team is slightly stronger than French B-team.
I hope to see the same teams in final and that the result will be the opposite with the A-teams. :P
Germany eliminated by Denmark, semi-finals will be Denmark-France and Croatia-Poland.
Battle for 5th place between Hungary and Germany, battle for 7th place between Sweden and Serbia, battle for 9th place between Slovakia and Norway.
Bets :
Denmark 24-31 France
Croatia 27-22 Poland
Hungary 21-29 Germany
Sweden 32-20 Serbia
Slovakia 24-22 Norway
Quote from: Krys TOFF on January 28, 2009, 12:34:16 PM
Croatia 22-19 France.
Croatian B team is slightly stronger than French B-team.
I hope to see the same teams in final and that the result will be the opposite with the A-teams. :P
Germany eliminated by Denmark, semi-finals will be Denmark-France and Croatia-Poland.
Battle for 5th place between Hungary and Germany, battle for 7th place between Sweden and Serbia, battle for 9th place between Slovakia and Norway.
Bets :
Denmark 24-31 France
Croatia 27-22 Poland
Hungary 21-29 Germany
Sweden 32-20 Serbia
Slovakia 24-22 Norway
Ooh, then my bets:
Denmark-France 27-29
Croatia-Poland 26-21
Hungary-Germany 27-30
Sweden-Serbia 33-31
Slovakia-Norway 22-32
Macedonia-South Korea 22-28
Quote from: Akoss PooDenmark-France 27-29
No way. :P
Quote from: Akoss PooSweden-Serbia 33-31
I don't think it will be that sharp, Sweden is really better than Serbia.
Quote from: Akoss PooMacedonia-South Korea 22-28
Oh, I didn't tipped on this one, right.
Let's say Macedonia 24-26
South Korea
South Korea lost against Macedonia, I was really surprised. Korea meant a real threat to almost each team so far, their style was really unusual for the others.
Hungary was tired against Germany, and the German keeper was fantastic in the 2nd half... 25-28 against them, 6th place overall - good result I think.
Quote from: Krys TOFF on January 29, 2009, 01:23:06 PM
Quote from: Akoss PooSweden-Serbia 33-31
I don't think it will be that sharp, Sweden is really better than Serbia.
It seems you were right... Sweden is leading 37-29 at the moment, not so much to go. What's more, it's the final result. Now it's 2-1 to Krys, he was the closer again.
Another big battle between Stunts nations is on to come!!!
OLYMPIC ICE HOCKEY QUALIFICATION FINAL STAGE
9 best nations according to WRL (RUS, CAN, SWE, FIN, CZE, USA, SUI, SVK, BLR) are already qualified to Vancouver, 3 other nations have possibility to qualify. 3 groups, 3x4 teams, 3 qualifiers. WRL 10-18 plus the winners of the pre-qualification stage (KAZ - WRL 19th, HUN - WRL 20th, JPN - WRL 22nd).
Groups are the following:
in HANNOVER, GER
GER (10th), SLO (15th), AUT (16th), JPN (22nd)
The most even group. Japan, with its unique style and fast skating, is a very tough opponent to all nations except for the usual top7 nations. The other 3 teams are quite on par, Germany is slightly stronger than the other two. Slovenia miss Anze Kopitar, Austria will miss Vanek. Slovenia managed to call back some old great players, so they will be a strong side. AUT-SLO will be interesting because of the AUT-SLO-HUN top league, GER-AUT because of eternal rivalry. Prediction: 1 GER 2 SLO 3 AUT 4 JPN
in RIGA, LAT
LAT (11th), ITA (14th), UKR (17th), HUN (20th)
The least even group, because Latvia is far ahead of the others. In my opinion, they will qualify. Ukraine will delegate a bit stronger team than in WCH 2008 Div I, so I think they will finish 2nd, this time beating Hungary. Italy is despite their WRL position, a beatable side without a real international star, they will have no chance. Prediction: 1 LAT 2 UKR 3 HUN 4 ITA
in OSLO, NOR
NOR (12th), DEN (13th), FRA (18th), KAZ (19th)
Kazakhstan is stronger than its WRL position shows. Their players often miss WCHs, or they don't take it seriously enough. They will not do the same if there's the olympic qualification. Norway and Denmark are of the same strength, anything can happen. France will surely finish 4th, altough they have some players playing in very good clubs. Prediction: 1 NOR 2 KAZ 3 DEN 4 FRA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hockey_at_the_2010_Winter_Olympics_-_Men%27s_qualification (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hockey_at_the_2010_Winter_Olympics_-_Men%27s_qualification)
Quote from: Akoss Poo on January 28, 2009, 12:57:25 PM
Slovakia-Norway 22-32
Akoss Poo-Krys TOFF 2-2, as Slovakia lost to Norway 27-34.
Quote from: Akoss PooFrance will surely finish 4th, altough they have some players playing in very good clubs. Prediction: 4 FRA
I can only aggree with that.
Quote from: Akoss PooAkoss Poo-Krys TOFF 2-2
Tough match. ;)
Quote from: Krys TOFF
Denmark 24-31 France
Croatia 27-22 Poland
Quote from: Akoss Poo
Denmark-France 27-29
Croatia-Poland 26-21
(logical) Real results :
Denmark 22-27
France => point for me (+5 is closer to +7 than to +2).
Croatia 29-23 Poland => point for me (3 points difference with real result instead of 5 for you Akoss)
Krys 4-2 Poo ;D
Last bets :
Croatia 33-34
France (after 1 extended time I think)
Denmark 26-24 Poland
I bet for the revenge of the groups match that already happened between these 2 teams.
Go Croatia!!!! ;D
France... :-\
Congratulations France. Bad performance by Denmark... I just talked to my new roommate yesterday. She is a handball player and she knows some of the national team players. She says they have been playing badly because they've had disagreements and got mad at each other internally. Interesting...
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on February 02, 2009, 10:29:17 AM
I just talked to my new roommate yesterday. She is a handball player
Is she hot? ;D
Alexander Ovechkin's superb goal versus Habs... :o
http://www.pixter.hu/video?id=9765 (http://www.pixter.hu/video?id=9765)
Male handball, Flensburg vs Kiel, scandal after two years...
http://www.shz.de/home/top-thema/article//schiedsrichter-manipulation-beim-thw-kiel.html (http://www.shz.de/home/top-thema/article//schiedsrichter-manipulation-beim-thw-kiel.html)
JTK? Any news?
Some ice hockey :)
Austrian Top League
Alba Volán improved last season's performance by a lot. I guess if there hadn't been for the lot of injuries and suspensions (fvck off Austrian Ice Hockey Federation), we would have reached the playoffs.
Final Standings of Regular Season
Gesamttabelle SP S U N SV NV SPS NPS Tore +/- PT
1. (1.) Klagenfurter AC 54 38 0 16 6 2 0 2 204:141 +63 80
2. (2.) Vienna Capitals 54 33 0 21 4 5 4 2 203:162 +41 73
3. (3.) Red Bull Salzburg 54 32 0 22 2 2 5 2 200:157 +43 68
4. (4.) Villacher SV 54 31 0 23 2 3 3 2 183:153 +30 67
5. (5.) Black Wings Linz 54 30 0 24 4 0 3 3 166:144 +22 63
6. (6.) HK Jesenice/SLO 54 24 0 30 1 4 2 2 179:197 -18 54
7. (7.) Graz 99ers 54 24 0 30 2 3 3 3 124:154 -30 54
8. (8.) HC Innsbrucker Haie 54 24 0 30 3 4 4 2 153:186 -33 54
9. (9.) Alba Volán Székesfehérvár/HUN 54 17 0 37 2 1 3 8 129:178 -49 43
10. (10.) Olimpija Ljubljana/SLO 54 17 0 37 2 4 2 3 131:200 -69 41
NHL Regular Season
Pittsburgh Penguins had have serious trouble some weeks ago, drifting away from playoff spots more and more. Now with the new trainer, they are on fire, 7-1-1 in their last nine games. Because of the good shape of the rivals, they are still not in playoff spot, but they are very very close to it now. Great 5 away victories in a row!
Standings East
1 Boston 95 pts/66 games
2 New Jersey 87/65
3 Washington 85/66
4 Philadelphia 80/64
5 Florida 76/66
6 Montréal 75/66
7 Carolina 75/67
8 NY Rangers 74/65
9 Pittsburgh 74/66
10 Buffalo 73/66
11 Toronto 65/66
12 Ottawa 60/64
13 Tampa Bay 55/66
14 Atlanta 54/65
15 NY Islanders 49/65
Hungarian-Romanian MOL League
The two best Romanian (Transylvanian, to be right, so they are Hungarians in real, too) teams played in the final, because
-Alba Volán played with their very young B team because of the EBEL participaton
-Hungarian referees were using the European standards, while in Romania, home ice was a too big advantage
-Újpest lost their best players for the key semi finals due to injuries, they still had a chance to win, but couldn't
-best Hungarian players were playing abroad, all Romanians at home
-Romanian talented young generation has grown up, while the Hungarian top generation is still in junior (or lower) aged
-Hungarian teams take the Hungarian League more important, the Transylvanian ones the MOL League
Final Results
1 HC Csikszereda (HC Miercurea Ciuc)
2 SC Csikszereda (SC Miercurea Ciuc)
3 Újpesti TE
4 Budapest Stars
5 Dunaújvárosi Acélbikák
6 Steaua Bucuresti
7 Ferencvárosi TC
8 Progym Gyergyószentmiklós (Gheorgheni)
9 Miskolci Jegesmedvék
10 Alba Volán II
Hungarian League
for 5th-7th place, Miskolc, Ferencváros and Alba II playing.
Semi Finals: Alba is leading 2-0 against Dunaújváros, and so does Újpest against Stars.
Olympic Qualification
Hungary-Latvia 3-7 - 3-5 2 minutes before end, really good match, really good play of Hungary, good result
Hungary-Italy 1-4 - deconcentrated, tired Hungarian team against a physically stronger, but generally a side of the same strength as Hungary, disappointing match
Hungary-Ukraine 3-3, Ukraine won with penalty shots, unlucky match, good play, we should have won
We played the weakest on the easiest match, that cost too much.
Qualified: LAT, GER, NOR.
Male handball, EHF Champions League, quarter-finals: that's what I call "fair" and "random" draw... >:(
Ciudad Real (ESP, title holder) – MKB Veszprém (HUN)
SG Flensburg-Handgewitt (GER)–HSV Hamburg (GER)
Csehovszki Medvegyi (RUS)–Rhein-Neckar Löwen (GER)
CO Zagreb (CRO)–THW Kiel (GER)
Tragedy in Hungarian sport - again... :-\
Last night Gábor Ocskay, maybe the best Hungarian ice hockey player, also member of Alba Volán died in heart attack. He was 34 years old. Rest in peace!
Hungarian ice hockey team is playing without Ocskay Gábor in the WCH. Still, they played very well so far. They lost to Slovakia 3-4 with a Slovak goal 13 seconds from the end. I guess we would have deserved 1, 2 or 3 points, there was no real difference between the teams in that game. Canada demolished us 0-9 then. Yesterday, we played against WRL-9th Belarussian team another very even game. If we had capitalized on our scoring chances with a better rate, we really would have won the game. 1-1 until the 54th minute, 1-3 in the end with an empty net BLR goal, another bittersweat loss. We will have to fight to avoid relegation. With the cheater Germans gave up their game to cheater French (to help them avoiding deserved relegation), knowing that GER will host WCH 2010, they can't get relegated, only 1 team can survive from the 4 of the teams of relegation round. Very sad. Also a big f*ck off on the LAT-SWE game (3-2, OT).
Something happier:
NHL, Eastern Conference Quarter Finals:
Pittsburgh Penguins (4th seed) - Philadelphia Cryers (5th) 4-2 (4-1, 3-2 OT, 3-6, 3-1, 0-3, 5-3) ;D
In The Semi Finals:
Washington Capitals (2nd seed) - Pittsburgh Penguins (4th) :o
penguins are an overdrafted shit (fashion team), but they are just weak without Crosby and Malkin, while FLYERS is a REAL TEAM! On the other hand, this 4-2 is quite far from the promised 4-0... :P
Penguins are in trouble! Lost the first two games in Washington! F-ck off!!! We were close (2-3, 3-4). Ovechkin is really on fire, the second and third line of the Pens should really give more! Crosby is not enough! Now 2 home games are to come. We really have to win them both.
Hungary is relegated from elite group of ice hockey. We lost all of our games. We played a great game against Slovakia and Belarus, had no chance against Canada, was tired but did all we could against Germany, lost because of the cheater referees against Denmark (our top division-1 level team is not strong enough to resist this, check the penalty minutes summary, it underlines my words), and played a really bad game against Austria. I hope we'll be back in 5 years, when our young generation grows up. And one thing: Palkovics was so impotent without Ocskay... :(
The WCH has come to the quarter finals. They are (with my tips):
Canada-Latvia 7-1
Russia-Belarus 4-2
Finland-USA 3-2
Sweden-Czech Rep. 4-3 OT
Canada has the widest range of players to select from their NHL stars, Russia almost the same. Czech Rep. and Finland managed to use a good percent of their NHL stars, they are with a really good team. Sweden's golden generation is getting old, misses WCHs (Sundin, Forsberg, Alfredsson, Naeslund, Lidström), the younger stars are almost all alive in the NHL playoffs (most of them in Detroit, Vancouver: Zetterberg, Franzén, H. Sedin, D. Sedin, Kronwall, Öhlund, Lundqvist), so they really miss they key players. But they have a strong enough team to be the fifth medal hope team. The others has no chance in my opinion.
Sweden has a new star, playing in the WCH, called Linus Omark (22 years old). The small center can do miraculous things in the ice, really worthy to watch these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_X5FdpsWpg#noexternalembed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_X5FdpsWpg#noexternalembed)
(<-)
it doesn't embeds itself, but this one is the best of the 3 IMO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIJs4HsWD3A#noexternalembed&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIJs4HsWD3A#noexternalembed&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxCNJL35374#noexternalembed&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxCNJL35374#noexternalembed&feature=related)
My tips:
Canada-Latvia 6-2
Russia-Belarus 6-3
Finland-USA 2-3 OT (because USA is dirty & lucky, SOG 43-30)
Sweden-Czech Republic 5-4
Akoss: have you ever drawn up a list of all the times Hungary have been cheated by the referees compared to the times they have been helped by the referees - counting all kinds of sports?
I think you will find there is a worldwide referee conspiracy against the nation of Hungary, no matter who they are playing!
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on May 05, 2009, 08:02:33 PM
Akoss: have you ever drawn up a list of all the times Hungary have been cheated by the referees compared to the times they have been helped by the referees - counting all kinds of sports?
I think you will find there is a worldwide referee conspiracy against the nation of Hungary, no matter who they are playing!
Not a good aspect. It's not a conspiracy versus Hungary - you just have to see that smaller countries with less active lobby and low level sport diplomacy get less help from refrees. On the other hand many nations hate Hungarians so it's quite easy to pick a refree from an "enemy"...
:D
Quote from: BonzaiJoe on May 05, 2009, 08:02:33 PM
I think you will find there is a worldwide referee conspiracy against the nation of Hungary, no matter who they are playing!
;D ;D ;D ;D
Just for Akoss Poo - remember what happened last year. Now Caps will kill pens with H5N1... ;D :P
Jacob, did you watch the match (DEN-HUN)? If you didn't, then have you at least seen the penalty minutes statistics! Before saying anything, you should check that! I only complained about 1 matches out of 6, is it such a great rate? If you watched the match, you could see that what in the Hungarian side was a call, on the Danish side, the whistle remained silent. Denmark is the better team, and if helped by the referees, the result can turn only into one way - Danish win, just like the zebras want.
Penguins won Game 3, series 1-2, next match in the Igloo, too.
It was so close... :-\
Female handball, European Champions League, final:
Viborg HK - Györi Audi ETO KC 24-26
Györi Audi ETO KC - Viborg HK 23-26
A single goal... well, typical. But! Somebody was missing from these two matches. Guess who: Anita Görbicz, the very best player of ETO. She suffered a very stupid knee injury few days before the first match (has to leave out few months). Unfortunately she's irreplaceble, we don't have quality substitutions for every positions. And even without her only a single goal was missing to win the cup... DAMN IT!
At least they won the championship (few rounds before the end of the competition) and the Hungarian cup. Cold comfort...
6 European cup finals in the last 10 years, all of them lost - 3 of them versus Viborg:
1999, EHF Cup: Viborg HK - Györi Graboplast ETO 21-24, 28-21
2002, EHF Cup: Ikast Bording EH - Györi Graboplast ETO 25-30, 36-23
2004, EHF Cup: Viborg HK - Györi Graboplast ETO 27-27, 37-21
2005, EHF Cup: Cornexi Alcoa - Györi ETO KC 21-27, 28-19 (the most shameful ever, versus another Hungarian team - a weak one...)
2006, Cup Winners' Cup: ZRK Buducnost - Györi Audi ETO KC 25-25, 26-23
2009, Champions' League: Viborg HK - Györi Audi ETO KC 24-26, 26-23
It's a pity... I would have been okay with you winning :-) Who cares about female handball and especially teams outside Århus? ;D
Russia won again ice hockey WCH, beating Canada in the final. Swedish team, missing all its key players still having work in NHL, earned promising bronze medal. Hungary finished last.
In the NHL, the Pittsburgh Penguins beat the Washington Capitals after a very long a tiring series. They won 6-2 in the decisive battle in Washington. This was probably the real Conference Final, because after this, they swept out the Carolina Hurricanes 4-0, only one game out of 4 was a close one. The mighty Detroit Red Wings will wait for them in the Stanley Cup Final - just like last year. Let's hope the Pens will win this one, too - unlike last year. :)
dirty dicksucker cheater overdrafted penguins - Detroit Red Wings 2-1 (series "won" by pit, 4-3), but poo has still no job and he has penis cancer in his hand. :D
Topic closed for a while. :P