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Title: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on May 22, 2021, 07:59:23 AM
Quote from: CTG on November 11, 2011, 03:54:24 PM
ROTOI: FINISH THE MELANGE PROJECT!!!

Quote from: zaqrack on July 17, 2012, 04:17:12 PMIts your car, it would be the best if you would finish.

Ok guys I'm working hard to finish my work after (almost) 19 year  :o . The 3d shape is almost done and the dashboard is about 40%. I'm so excited because it looks great! Also I want to thank CTG to imagine and build a shape for this car. I must finish the work. By the way, the cars statistics or its performance won't be changed.

Here is a teaser just for kicks  ;) ;D Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9r2TLB3neE

Edit: attached the car files for download.
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: dreadnaut on May 22, 2021, 05:25:53 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on May 22, 2021, 07:59:23 AM
Here is a teaser just for kicks  ;) ;D Enjoy!

That's some serious teasing there! Looking forward to the final result :D
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: KyLiE on May 23, 2021, 07:12:06 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on May 22, 2021, 07:59:23 AM
Here is a teaser just for kicks  ;) ;D Enjoy!

Ha ha!  I like the way you used The Need For Speed intro music. :)
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Daniel3D on May 23, 2021, 08:45:45 AM
Quote from: KyLiE on May 23, 2021, 07:12:06 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on May 22, 2021, 07:59:23 AM
Here is a teaser just for kicks  ;) ;D Enjoy!

Ha ha!  I like the way you used The Need For Speed intro music. :)

Same studio right?
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on May 23, 2021, 03:08:55 PM
Quote from: KyLiE on May 23, 2021, 07:12:06 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on May 22, 2021, 07:59:23 AM
Here is a teaser just for kicks  ;) ;D Enjoy!

Ha ha!  I like the way you used The Need For Speed intro music. :)

Yeah you got it :D There will be more videos! Again coming soon ;)


Quote from: Daniel3D on May 23, 2021, 08:45:45 AM

Same studio right?

What do you mean?  ::)
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Daniel3D on May 23, 2021, 03:46:46 PM
Need for speed was made by EA canada, formerly known as DSI if i am not mistaken.
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Ryoma on May 23, 2021, 04:06:57 PM
Absolutly Daniel
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on May 23, 2021, 04:59:39 PM
Quote from: Ryoma on May 23, 2021, 04:06:57 PM
Absolutly Daniel

Haha didn't know that! It was destiny  ;D
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Cas on May 23, 2021, 07:44:14 PM
If I were to go back to 1993 when I just got my first PC and I could carry only one diskette of data from today, I'd save the Melange in it!  Looking forward to seeing more about it :D
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Daniel3D on May 23, 2021, 08:20:36 PM
Quote from: Cas on May 23, 2021, 07:44:14 PM
If I were to go back to 1993 when I just got my first PC and I could carry only one diskette of data from today, I'd save the Melange in it!  Looking forward to seeing more about it :D
#Metoo
:P
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on May 24, 2021, 12:48:30 AM
A new video! This time is a farewell to the old version and a welcome to the new Melange! Enjoy! ;D

https://youtu.be/dtxKhUCc_yA
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Daniel3D on May 24, 2021, 01:00:35 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on May 24, 2021, 12:48:30 AM
A new video! This time is a farewell to the old version and a welcome to the new Melange! Enjoy! ;D

https://youtu.be/dtxKhUCc_yA (https://youtu.be/dtxKhUCc_yA)

Wow, 
it's very good. A beautifully created edition.

Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Cas on May 24, 2021, 04:12:37 AM
Great video!  The part when they split and take separate ways....  :'(
The new shape looks great and still preserves the essence of the old one!
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: KyLiE on May 24, 2021, 06:12:12 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on May 24, 2021, 12:48:30 AM
A new video! This time is a farewell to the old version and a welcome to the new Melange! Enjoy! ;D

The new 3D model looks great!  Did you take inspiration from Furious 7 by any chance? ;)
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on May 24, 2021, 03:31:29 PM
Quote from: KyLiE on May 24, 2021, 06:12:12 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on May 24, 2021, 12:48:30 AM
A new video! This time is a farewell to the old version and a welcome to the new Melange! Enjoy! ;D

The new 3D model looks great!  Did you take inspiration from Furious 7 by any chance? ;)

Thank you! The model made by CTG was excellent so I modified it to make the sense of evolution. About the farewell, yes it's inspired in fast & furious 7 ;D
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Duplode on May 25, 2021, 12:07:21 AM
The updated model does look nice!  :) The one suggestion I have is for the order of the car colours being kept as close as possible to the one in the previous model, so that colour choices in old replays are for the most part retained. If need be, the most recent version of Stressed I posted about a while ago has a command to easily reorder car colours.
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on May 25, 2021, 02:19:34 AM
Quote from: Duplode on May 25, 2021, 12:07:21 AM
The updated model does look nice!  :) The one suggestion I have is for the order of the car colours being kept as close as possible to the one in the previous model, so that colour choices in old replays are for the most part retained. If need be, the most recent version of Stressed I posted about a while ago has a command to easily reorder car colours.

Ooh! I didn't take it in mind! I'll reorder to the previous order. Meanwhile I'm working in the dashboard.
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on May 27, 2021, 01:00:12 AM
New dashboard in progress...

- A dark blue dashboard
- new font for digital speedometer
- white numbers

This part is quiet slow at least I'll show a prototype.
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Cas on May 27, 2021, 03:01:38 AM
Wow!  It's going to look amazing.
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Ryoma on May 27, 2021, 04:53:23 AM
Wonderfull dashboard !!!!!
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Daniel3D on May 27, 2021, 12:11:01 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on May 27, 2021, 01:00:12 AM
New dashboard in progress...

- A dark blue dashboard
- new font for digital speedometer
- white numbers

This part is quiet slow at least I'll show a prototype.

It's beautiful, but I kind of liked the idea of a proximity sensor on the old one.
So I will keep a backup of the old one in one of my stunts versions. Hard to let go of it  ;)
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on May 27, 2021, 02:34:34 PM
Quote from: Daniel3D on May 27, 2021, 12:11:01 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on May 27, 2021, 01:00:12 AM
New dashboard in progress...

- A dark blue dashboard
- new font for digital speedometer
- white numbers

This part is quiet slow at least I'll show a prototype.

It's beautiful, but I kind of liked the idea of a proximity sensor on the old one.
So I will keep a backup of the old one in one of my stunts versions. Hard to let go of it  ;)

Honestly the left part is only graphics. The main part of the the dashboard is the digital speedometer and the rpm. I'm trying to make it "more realistic" but the dashboard is under construction so I'm opened to suggestions and new ideas. Also for the rest of the dashboard.

BTW about dimensions, how is the maximum height of every part? And what's the "transparent" color?
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Ryoma on May 27, 2021, 02:44:08 PM
Transparent color is black in indexed bmp for the the dast and insX. White for dasm and inmX.
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Cas on May 28, 2021, 12:32:09 AM
Alan... what do you mean about maximum height of every part?  I'd like to help
About transparency, Ryoma is correct. To be more specific, it seems to me that Stunts uses a masking strategy that works like this:

- First, take the mask image and apply it via an AND bitwise operator
- Then, take the graphical image and apply it via an OR bitwise operator on top of the previous result

So what you normally do is use colours 255 (for "keep old pixels") and 0 (for "replace with image") in the mask and use colour 0 in the image to make sure it does not modified the non-zero pixels when you OR it.

If my speculation is correct (and it very likely is, because this is the most intuitive way to produce a simple mask that's really fast on old computers), then using a colour other than zero in the graphical image would cause the colour indices to merge resulting in values that you most likely don't want, but... this might be exploitable if you know what you're doing. Using colours other than 0 and 255 in the mask could also be used for similar purposes, but it would be more difficult to make that useful. Stunts palette is not organised in powers of two, so nothing very beautiful can come out of this, I think.
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: KyLiE on May 28, 2021, 01:35:59 PM
The new dashboard looks great! :) As I've said before, creating the dashboard can be a very tedious and time-consuming process.
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on June 05, 2021, 11:06:08 PM
- 3d shape finished
- paintjob fixed
- dashboard finished (99%)

Test driving the car. I don't show the compete dashboard yet because it has some easter eggs ;D It will be revealed soon!
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Cas on June 05, 2021, 11:21:40 PM
I'm looking forward to try the complete new Melange!! :D
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: CTG on June 06, 2021, 12:27:34 AM
Quote from: KyLiE on May 28, 2021, 01:35:59 PM
The new dashboard looks great! :) As I've said before, creating the dashboard can be a very tedious and time-consuming process.

That's probably the most annoying part of car editing. Nice work, Mr. Rotoi!
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on June 29, 2021, 11:53:43 PM
Dashboard finished! There are some special elements/details/improvements that you can find. Could you find them? ::)
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: KyLiE on June 30, 2021, 11:25:52 AM
That looks amazing! :D So far I have noticed:
Are there any more?
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on June 30, 2021, 01:51:47 PM
You're doing great! Yes, there are more ;D


What else? ;D There is something Daniel asked too.
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Daniel3D on June 30, 2021, 02:06:54 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on June 30, 2021, 01:51:47 PM
;D There is something Daniel asked too.
O, I see it.
An opponent proximity sensor in the center console.   ;D
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on June 30, 2021, 03:19:07 PM
Quote from: Daniel3D on June 30, 2021, 02:06:54 PM
O, I see it.
An opponent proximity sensor in the center console.   ;D

That's right! And there is more! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Daniel3D on June 30, 2021, 08:37:18 PM
Does it say "19th" in the upper left and right corner?
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on June 30, 2021, 11:40:42 PM
Quote from: Daniel3D on June 30, 2021, 08:37:18 PM
Does it say "19th" in the upper left and right corner?

Yep! And where used to say "Rotoi Racing" now it says "Melange XGT-88".

What else?  ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Cas on July 01, 2021, 02:38:06 AM
There's this view selector which displays the front of the car :)
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on July 01, 2021, 04:54:32 AM
Yep, that's the opponent proximity sensor :D
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on July 01, 2021, 11:08:07 PM
So, the changes and new features are:


I think that's everything ;D
After a validating test I'll publish the complete car. Just give me some days because I'm too busy with the work.
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Cas on July 03, 2021, 11:05:16 PM
It's going to deserve another track in Race For Kicks!! :)
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Daniel3D on July 04, 2021, 12:44:04 AM
Quote from: Cas on July 03, 2021, 11:05:16 PM
It's going to deserve another track in Race For Kicks!! :)
Opponent mandatory. Just because it has the proximity sensor  8)
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on July 04, 2021, 06:06:03 PM
My pleasure :D
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Cas on July 08, 2021, 05:16:22 AM
The opponent should be the police car!!! :D
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on July 08, 2021, 01:56:25 PM
Quote from: Cas on July 08, 2021, 05:16:22 AM
The opponent should be the police car!!! :D

Haha! Seems we have a story now! ;D
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Daniel3D on July 08, 2021, 04:45:36 PM
 :-X
If we all select the same colour we can make a movie out of it.
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on August 09, 2021, 12:36:05 AM
The new version of Melange XGT-88 is available. Here is a video explaining all the specs of the car. The trilogy videos of Melange is complete. Download the car and test it please! Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQUPr0nXsbw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQUPr0nXsbw)


and here is the playlist containing teaser, farewell old version and melange car showcase:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbPRp_eeBCrtKd7ewNxJvdPfQJt_9IbJI

PS: remember to install it in a different Stunts copy that you use for zakstunts 2020. The next year we'll see ;)
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Cas on August 09, 2021, 02:27:21 AM
Great video!  Just downloaded the car. You say it's better to use another copy of Stunts, but the performance parameters are compatible, right?  So if I record a replay with the new one, it should still be compatible. Or am I wrong?
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on August 09, 2021, 04:29:38 AM
Thanks!
I really don't know. I recommended just in case. It's 19th anniversary because is mean to be used in 2022's competitions because of that. If there is no problem then we would replace it right now.
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: KyLiE on August 09, 2021, 01:34:32 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on August 09, 2021, 12:36:05 AM
The new version of Melange XGT-88 is available. Here is a video explaining all the specs of the car.

Great video! :) I've been looking forward to this.  If you only changed the visuals and not the performance parameters (Including the operation of the gearbox) then it should be compatible.  Only testing will confirm this though.
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on August 09, 2021, 06:23:26 PM
Thank you! Do you recognize the 3 songs of the video? ::)

Only visuals were changes so it should be ok.
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on August 11, 2021, 12:26:06 AM
Marco made a live test drive yesterday. Check it out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL_8Tv8NljQ
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: KyLiE on August 11, 2021, 12:04:28 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on August 09, 2021, 06:23:26 PM
Thank you! Do you recognize the 3 songs of the video? ::)

Yes!  They are metal covers of the original Stunts music:
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Zapper on August 12, 2021, 09:08:31 PM
Hi Alan,

Firstly let me give you the congrats for you nice work with this melange 19th anniversary model!

Please allow me to ask you this, are the power specs in showcase accurate?

From what I found in the previous model (using caredit3) it has 605bhp and the folowing torque curve (approximately):

(http://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3757.0;attach=8065)

Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on August 12, 2021, 11:59:11 PM
Thank you Zapper! You're right the specs aren't accurate. Let me explain:
They are the specs from 2003. In those times there wasn't a tool to check those numbers so everybody just wrote fantasy numbers for their own cars. In Melange case: the cc and HP were aproximately numbers from Turismo Carretera cars. Also the maximum speed I wrote 216 mph in the game just to make a similar feeling of hte IMSA cars but in fact the maximum speed is 218 (it can reach 220 but suddenly drops to 218 so I take 218 as max speed).

Also the price of the car was a joke to make it super cheap opposed to the other custom cars that were super expensive. ;D

I didn't realize to add the data from caredit to make the video more accurate. It would have been cool to add them. Maybe in the presentation video of the next car... ;)
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Ryoma on August 13, 2021, 05:56:48 AM
The torque curve is very strange with many steps.
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Ryoma on August 14, 2021, 06:51:43 AM
Where can I found this caredit 3?
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: KyLiE on August 14, 2021, 09:54:23 AM
The latest release that I know of is from Zapper right here on the forum (http://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?topic=3079.msg80264#msg80264).
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Ryoma on August 20, 2021, 12:57:42 AM
I try one car of mine and I made a mistake of +5% on the torque and power. It's not a problem because I adapt the weight consequently in order to have the real value for 0-60mph, 0-1000m and when known 60mph-0 for brake.

Caredit seems cool for gear ratio.

Do you think it's possible to have a software which directly made a picture with a 3d view of the car and characteristics below. Like in the show room
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Daniel3D on August 20, 2021, 07:57:13 AM
Quote from: Ryoma on August 20, 2021, 12:57:42 AM
Do you think it's possible to have a software which directly made a picture with a 3d view of the car and characteristics below. Like in the show room
I think that can be done.
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on October 25, 2021, 05:04:09 AM
KyLiE helped me to polish some details of Melange, some errors about lower detail colors, etc. This is the final version. I attached here and attached in the first message. Download and save this final version of the car ;)

Thank you!!
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on December 20, 2021, 02:03:46 PM
I uploaded the .rar again because I forgot to submit the file "melange.txt". It's an updated info about the car and grammatically corrected by KyLiE ;)
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Daniel3D on December 20, 2021, 03:48:58 PM
I found out that my son has a melange.
(At least, that's what I started to call it)
8)
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on December 20, 2021, 09:33:04 PM
Hahaha that's a good name! I was thinking to 3D print a 7-10 cm model of Melange but I don't know how to export the model with the wheels included. :D
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Daniel3D on December 20, 2021, 10:00:39 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on December 20, 2021, 09:33:04 PM
Hahaha that's a good name! I was thinking to 3D print a 7-10 cm model of Melange but I don't know how to export the model with the wheels included. :D
You can't export the wheels of course. But it won't take long to add them annually in a 3d editor. You will have to attach the wheels anyway.
I can do it if you want,
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on December 20, 2021, 10:46:35 PM
Quote from: Daniel3D on December 20, 2021, 10:00:39 PM
I can do it if you want,

Yes, please. Thank you! ;D ;D

PS: I attach the files stressed creates when exported the melange. The guys accepts .obj files to print so it's ok in this format.
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Daniel3D on December 21, 2021, 09:30:56 AM
Alright. It will not be before Christmas I'm afraid.
Got late shifts until Christmas.
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: alanrotoi on April 22, 2022, 03:33:40 PM
The dashboard was based (mostly) in these two pictures. There are more but I think they weren't that important. I had the idea of a dark blue dashboard since January 2016 at least :D
Title: Re: Melange XGT-88 19th anniversary
Post by: Daniel3D on April 22, 2022, 05:32:10 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on December 20, 2021, 10:46:35 PM
Quote from: Daniel3D on December 20, 2021, 10:00:39 PM
I can do it if you want,

Yes, please. Thank you! ;D ;D

PS: I attach the files stressed creates when exported the melange. The guys accepts .obj files to print so it's ok in this format.
O [####].. I completely forgot about this.
I'll try to make time soon   :-\