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Title: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on October 29, 2021, 01:45:52 AM
Yes!! The Police car from Test Drive 2 & the duel is under construction! The Ford LTD Crown Victoria from 1983 will be a police interceptor tunned to race against the best super sport cars in this game somewhere between Ferrari GTO and IMSA. I think I'll try to emulate the hardest difficulty from Test Drive II & the duel where the police is a pain in the lower part of the back :D

The car files are attached in this post.

So this will be the second police car to complete the set:

- Ford LTD Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (top speed between 190mph - 205mph) Ferrari GTO level aprox.
- Dodge Monaco Highway Patrol (top speed between 150mph - 170mph) Acura or Porsche Carrera level aprox.


I want to build them to make a fun experience for the player. Also the challenge is to make it drivable by the opponents in a live race against these super sport cars too. What do you think?
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Overdrijf on October 29, 2021, 07:58:17 AM
Organize a mini tournament, 3 cars 3 tracks, call it the cop cup. ;)
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: KyLiE on October 29, 2021, 03:32:07 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on October 29, 2021, 01:45:52 AM
I want to build them to make a fun experience for the player. Also the challenge is to make it drivable by the opponents in a live race against these super sport cars too. What do you think?

I think it's a great idea.  If you made the performance realistic, they would be outclassed by the majority of the Stunts line-up and therefore, not that much fun.  Also, the 3D model looks great! :)
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Ryoma on October 29, 2021, 08:12:15 PM
I Iove it!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Cas on October 30, 2021, 12:36:03 AM
Yeah!  It really looks superb!
I'm thinking that there should be a wiki post about the "2021 car making frenzy"  ;D  The number of cars has grown geometrically this year!
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on November 06, 2021, 07:53:25 PM
Avoid speeding or you'll be chased by our highway patrol and the police interceptor ;)
Thank you for your cooperation.
- 3d Shape of both cars are finished
- Dashboard for Ford Crown Victoria 80% finished
- Ford Crown Victoria game performance 70% finished
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on January 11, 2022, 04:02:22 AM
- 3d shape finished
- car specs and performance finished
- Dashboard 80% finished
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on January 11, 2022, 05:13:46 AM
I'm using carworks for the performance of the car. It is a lot easier to edit than car blaster. I can't find some details as the width of the car. I did the car so narrow that can't crash against trees or the finish line  ;D. Where can I edit this parameter with carworks?
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Daniel3D on January 11, 2022, 08:08:44 AM
Carworks can automatically calculate those values I believe.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on January 17, 2022, 07:23:58 PM
The car is finished. I just messed up with the dashboard graphics... the ins1, whl3... and all that shit. Is there an easy way to put the parts in order?
Why we must put the stallin same graphic over the same graphic in some parts? I mean whl3 over ins3 for example. What a waste of time.

Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Daniel3D on January 17, 2022, 07:41:26 PM
It's layers. The whl3 is steering wheel layer.the ins3 instrument panel layer. The animation of the needle Goes over 'ins' and under 'whl'.

At least, that's what I figured.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on January 17, 2022, 08:19:59 PM
I still can't reproduce transparencies. :(
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Daniel3D on January 17, 2022, 08:30:39 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on January 17, 2022, 08:19:59 PM
I still can't reproduce transparencies. :(
Do you have the mask (inm3) ??
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on January 17, 2022, 08:59:46 PM
yes
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Ryoma on January 17, 2022, 09:17:42 PM
You can share it your work.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on January 17, 2022, 11:18:11 PM
Having problems with "inm" and "ins" masks. The whole car is done :'(
Ryoma: Thank you! That would be fine but I want to solve my self if I can. I like the idea of comming with the surprise of a new car like a Stunts Santa Claus :D If I give up of these sh!tty useless masks I'll ask your help. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: KyLiE on January 19, 2022, 02:40:28 AM
Without having a look at your work, it's difficult to point you in the right direction.  One thing I can think of is to ensure that you have set your mask coordinates correctly.  Otherwise, you could send your work to Ryoma privately.  Think of him as one of Santa's helpers. ;)
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on January 19, 2022, 04:50:31 AM
I love you guy, thank you!! I'll give another try tomorrow. If I cant do it then I'll publish the files.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on January 22, 2022, 09:32:49 PM
Ok I'll publish the car. I'll be glad if somebody can help me with this detail. The only problem left is about the "ins" and "inm" masks. I attach here the 4 car files and 3 editable .psd to do/undo what is needed to fix it. :D

I'm sorry I couldn't fix it and I spent hours with it. Please help me.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on January 22, 2022, 09:41:21 PM
Now it looks like "d1" but it should look like "d2". I mean the part inside the red square ;)
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Ryoma on January 23, 2022, 04:46:17 AM
Very nice dashboard I like it...the speedometer looks difficult. I will tale a look  at this today .
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Daniel3D on January 23, 2022, 10:20:35 AM
Ryoma. Do you think it is possible to lower the centre point of the needle and add the part of the dashboard that is over the needle to the steering wheel layer?
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Ryoma on January 23, 2022, 10:20:50 AM
Ok I reduce the size of Ins2. For remind : insX and inmX (X =1 or 3) are the results of the collision of whlX and ins2 in the window of ins2.

I will put on my méga the files.
https://mega.nz/folder/MuomTCxI#P2STZ8W5GND4ROH4V7tpBw

Quote from: Daniel3D on January 23, 2022, 10:20:35 AM
Ryoma. Do you think it is possible to lower the centre point of the needle and add the part of the dashboard that is over the needle to the steering wheel layer?

I try with the Fiat 500, I think it's not possible to hide some part of the needle.

@alanrotoi

240HP really ???
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Daniel3D on January 23, 2022, 11:00:44 AM
I know that the tip goes behind the wheel. But I'm not sure about the base. I never positioned the needle. Only edited graphics.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Ryoma on January 23, 2022, 11:51:33 AM
But maybe we can cheat with the color of the needle and the color of the dashboard
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on January 23, 2022, 01:39:22 PM
Quote from: Ryoma on January 23, 2022, 10:20:50 AM
@alanrotoi

240HP really ???

I don't know how to calculate the HP ingame so I put real info :D. BTW I noticed I must update the car info and I forgot to change the roof :o
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Ryoma on January 23, 2022, 02:03:24 PM
More than 300hp and 9000rpm for a big block.

I made some changes here :
https://mega.nz/folder/MuomTCxI#P2STZ8W5GND4ROH4V7tpBw


Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on January 23, 2022, 03:50:27 PM
Did you fixed the dashboard? :)
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Ryoma on January 23, 2022, 04:21:55 PM
Yes I do ....did you try the car in the link above?
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on January 23, 2022, 04:48:37 PM
Thank you so much! I see you adjusted the start point of the needles and fixed the mask problem. How do you do it so easy? I was the whole yesterdays morning trying to fix it and couldn't.

Now I'll add the new roof, update the car info and it's done :)
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Ryoma on January 23, 2022, 05:55:34 PM
It's not easy : Ins2 shall be the smaller as possible, with this rule sometime you will avoid insX and inmX. If not insX and inmX (X =1 or 3) are the results of the collision of whlX and ins2 in the window of ins2.

I think I resume properly the use of inmX and insX.


Another thing  : on your dashboard there are some artéfacts cause by the conversion of the palets. Particulary on the top and air vent.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on January 24, 2022, 12:49:22 AM
The car is finished! Attached here and in the 1st post. Also the wiki article is updated. If you find any error/bug please let me know. This is the first police car for this game! Chase those infractor cars and win the duel!
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Cas on January 24, 2022, 03:50:21 AM
I've been trying the car. It really looks great and it's very comfortable to drive!
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on January 24, 2022, 06:18:33 AM
Thanks! And I made a promo video of course! I hope you like it :D

https://youtu.be/7B-1I1ShkSk
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Daniel3D on January 24, 2022, 09:17:58 AM
That was really cool. Nice setup.
I love hou the car starts wiggling to keep the police behind.

Was the red car all ai? Or did you switch cars for some shots?
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Ryoma on January 24, 2022, 09:37:15 AM
Very cool video.

One question why the graphics on the video on youtube is better than mine. Look the camparaison : I have these artefact on the air vent and dash board that did not exist on the video on youtube.

Can someone explain it ???
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Daniel3D on January 24, 2022, 10:07:09 AM
What artifacts?? I don't see it..
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Ryoma on January 24, 2022, 10:22:31 AM
Some rust color on the air vent and some grey pixels on the top of the dashboard instead of marroon.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: KyLiE on January 24, 2022, 12:52:44 PM
Excellent work on the car and I love the video as well! :) As for the difference between the game running locally and the video on YouTube, I can't see any.  Obviously the game looks sharper when running locally, but that is to be expected.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on January 24, 2022, 01:01:57 PM
Quote from: Daniel3D on January 24, 2022, 09:17:58 AM
That was really cool. Nice setup.
I love hou the car starts wiggling to keep the police behind.

Was the red car all ai? Or did you switch cars for some shots?
Thanks! The Ferrari GTO was Skid Vicious all the time. It was unexpected when he didn't let me pass when I got closer in the bridge corners and it reinforced the story 😊.

@ Ryoma, maybe is just a rendering effect. The original images size has 320x200 pixels and they were resized to 1280x720.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on January 24, 2022, 01:47:24 PM
BTW do somebody knows what's the song of the video? ::)
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Ryoma on January 27, 2022, 06:08:45 AM
Cover of TD 2 music ?

Another thing : your car looks like a brick but it's very aerodynamic ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on January 27, 2022, 12:05:05 PM
Quote from: Ryoma on January 27, 2022, 06:08:45 AM
Cover of TD 2 music ?
Yeah!  ;D

Yes! I'm building these tuned American cars trying to make them susceptible to bugs like magic carpet or others. That's why I also tested with car dimentions and weight.

Seems American cars from 60's to late 80's are mostly bricks so fortunately they're easier to build a 3D model. Fortunately for me because it is the first time drawing 3D models since 1999. I enjoy doing it but it costs me a lot of time.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Ryoma on January 27, 2022, 12:26:39 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on January 27, 2022, 12:05:05 PM
Seems American cars from 60's to late 80's are mostly bricks so fortunately they're easier to build a 3D model. Fortunately for me because it is the first time drawing 3D models since 1999. I enjoy doing it but it costs me a lot of time.

I know, I know....about 8 hours for a shape, the same for a dashboard...
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Cas on January 28, 2022, 12:30:37 AM
Great video! :)  The Interceptor doing what it's best at. The music does sound really cool in this video. I wasn't familiar with TD2 music. I've always only had TD3.

The blur and colour change surely has to do with the codec compression. What is the original video resolution? If you scale up the game window without any kind of interpolation, then the effects of lossy compression should be milder.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on January 28, 2022, 03:11:54 AM
Thanks! The original video is a dosbox capture so it's 320x200.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: alanrotoi on January 28, 2022, 07:37:28 PM
Quote from: Ryoma on January 27, 2022, 12:26:39 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on January 27, 2022, 12:05:05 PM
Seems American cars from 60's to late 80's are mostly bricks so fortunately they're easier to build a 3D model. Fortunately for me because it is the first time drawing 3D models since 1999. I enjoy doing it but it costs me a lot of time.

I know, I know....about 8 hours for a shape, the same for a dashboard...

I don't know. It feels like more. I work for few time and then leave so my production is quiet slow. I have more time now in summer.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Test Drive II)
Post by: Cas on January 28, 2022, 09:18:17 PM
Yeah, then that's why. You can scale it up to 640x400 and it should look sharper in spite of the video compression. But this is as long as the conversion doesn't try to change the aspect ration to 4:3, which it shouldn't.