Wilshere in Aarhus?!? :o
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10533089/amp/Jack-Wilshere-verge-joining-Danish-club-Aarhus-deal-end-season.html
Is he known?
Quote from: alanrotoi on February 21, 2022, 02:17:21 PM
Is he known?
Sure. He played in Arsenal and England national team for many years. Not a Zidane, but still, way too famous to play in a mediorce Danish team.
It's something like Giuseppe Signori playing in Sopron. ;D
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Signori
Bonzai Joe needs to be called here: it's his team.
This World Cup will be the strangest ever:
- In november/december
- No Nigeria in Argentina's group.
Quote from: Shoegazing Leo on March 30, 2022, 09:45:17 PM
- No Nigeria in Argentina's group.
Still we could find Mexico in 1/16 (how the hell you say "octavos de final" in english? 😆 ;D
Nigeria and Chile could play their own world cup with Russia.
Quote from: alanrotoi on March 30, 2022, 09:48:57 PM
(how the hell you say "octavos de final" in english? 😆 ;D
i think : eighth final..
Quote from: alanrotoi on March 30, 2022, 09:48:57 PM
Quote from: Shoegazing Leo on March 30, 2022, 09:45:17 PM
- No Nigeria in Argentina's group.
Still we could find Mexico in 1/16 (how the hell you say "octavos de final" in english? 😆 ;D
Nigeria and Chile could play their own world cup with Russia.
Round of 16
I'm hoping a Qatar : Peru or Mexico : Peru, because this sounds funny in brazilian portuguese
Peru is a slang for penis
Qatar in portuguese is Catar, Catar : Peru ('catar peru' - get penis)
México in portuguese is México, México : Peru, that sounds like mexe com peru (mess with penis)
(https://cdn.resfu.com/media/img_news/these-are-the-groups-for-the-2022-world-cup-in-qatar--besoccer.png?size=1000x&lossy=1)
Group A: Overdrijf, Daniel3D
Group B: 1337haxoryt
Group C: Cas, Alan Rotoi
Group D: Ryoma, Bonzai Joe, KyLiE?, matamo?, Igor?
Group E: Frieshansen, sd4000, KaoS, Seeker1982, Cas? ;D
Group G: Heretic, Duplode, ZdnBurns, Leo Ramone, Amg
Group H: Zapper
The fixture is almost set up. Filling the fixture is my favourite part of world cups ;D
Quote from: Cas on April 02, 2022, 01:08:38 PM
The fixture is almost set up. Filling the fixture is my favourite part of world cups ;D
😁. Where do I put you? Group C or lets wait if NZ classifies against Costa Rica? (Most probably they won't).
Also a funny game is to make a predictions. I will search it a publish here so we all predict how will go the world cup.
Quote from: alanrotoi on April 01, 2022, 11:55:49 PM
(https://cdn.resfu.com/media/img_news/these-are-the-groups-for-the-2022-world-cup-in-qatar--besoccer.png?size=1000x&lossy=1)
Group A: Overdrijf
Group B: 1337haxoryt
Group C: Cas, Alan Rotoi
Group D: Ryoma, Bonzai Joe, KyLiE?, matamo?, Igor?
Group E: Frieshansen, sd4000, KaoS, Seeker1982, Cas? ;D
Group G: Heretic, Duplode, ZdnBurns, Leo Ramone, Amg
Group H: Zapper
Ehm. My father was a football fanatic. Because of that I have about the same interest in football as CAS has in 3th party libraries ;D
Sorry.
I do like the post and the idea, I just like it better without me 8)
Yeah, well, I call myself a football agnostic :D But filling the fixture is fun. During the World Cup, I like doing that and sometimes I enjoy news that involve some cultural exchange because of the event, but really it is the same for me who wins or who loses. Outside the World Cup, I don't follow any team and never watch a football game. And even during the World Cup, if a game is going to be too early, I won't wake up to watch it. Indeed, even in normal hours, if I'm alone at home, I don't watch the game. Maybe I can join if my father is watching.
So the World Cup starts in November.
Wich world cup since 1990 was the closest in classification for Hungary? Why Hungary doesn't classify? Why Romania or Bulgaria did sometimes instead? Why Hungary lost its power from the golden era?
Why the Netherlands never had won a world cup? The deseved morenthan once.
Will messi win a world cup?
Do Australians care about this cup?
Will France win again the cup?
Why Italy sucked against Macedonia?
How many dives will perform Neymar in this cup? Will Brazil win?
Do you have a second team if yours gets eliminated?
I agree that no country that has never won a World Cup deserves more to win one than the Netherlands. I think that football has more randomness than most people want to admit. Of course, skill is important, but if you have two skilled teams, they don't need to be that close in their skill level for randomness to take over, so these unexplainable (inexplainable?) things happen.
One greatly contributing factor to this is the fact that who wins depends exclusively on the number of successful goal kicks, which is something that doesn't occur very often during a match and that can easily happen by chance (or not happen, also by chance), while strategy tends to happen more in the middle of the field, where goal kicks can't happen. It's a very unfair sport, ha, ha.
Football team of my hometown won the NB III East championship title and found the way back to 2nd tier football (NB II, countrywide, 20 teams; behind the 12 teams of NB I). 5 rounds to go, the advantage is already 18 pts! :D
1. Kazincbarcika 33 29 3 1 93–17 +76 90
2. DEAC Debrecen 33 22 6 5 78–29 +49 72
3. BKV Elöre Budapest 33 22 4 7 57–33 +24 70
4. Hajdúszoboszló 33 18 8 7 63–31 +32 62
5. Tiszaújváros 33 18 6 9 66–46 +20 60
Quote from: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on May 02, 2022, 09:04:03 AM
Football team of my hometown won the NB III East championship title and found the way back to 2nd tier football (NB II, countrywide, 20 teams; behind the 12 teams of NB I). 5 rounds to go, the advantage is already 18 pts! :D
1. Kazincbarcika 33 29 3 1 93–17 +76 90
2. DEAC Debrecen 33 22 6 5 78–29 +49 72
3. BKV Elöre Budapest 33 22 4 7 57–33 +24 70
4. Hajdúszoboszló 33 18 8 7 63–31 +32 62
5. Tiszaújváros 33 18 6 9 66–46 +20 60
The 4th place is also called Hsjdusz bololô
They named the team after a cat walked on their keyboards.
Difficult names. How the people sings their name if it is that long? ;D just wondering... Or they just say "go tigers"? ;D
Quote from: alanrotoi on May 03, 2022, 05:52:08 AM
Difficult names. How the people sings their name if it is that long? ;D just wondering... Or they just say "go tigers"? ;D
Well, if you wonder, you can hear the pronunciation of the team names on Google Translate. Just click on the listen button.
These names are not too long in my opinion. I just typed Debrecen and Budapest as city names, they are not included in the team name.
Kazincbarcika is usually called KBSC (acronym of the old [1992-2021] name of the club, KazincBarcikai Sport Club) or Vegyész (means chemist, originating from the original [1957-1992] name of the club, Kazincbarcikai Vegyész Sport Egyesület, there is a big chemical industry company in the town) when the fans are chanting their name or singing a song to them. Kazincbarcika is a town merged from two former villages, Sajókazinc (Sajó is the river which flows near the town) and Barcika, that's why the town name is so long.
Hajdúszoboszló and Tiszaújváros are also just names of the town, I don't know their exact nickname chanted in songs. They are long town names, too: Hajdú is related to the Hajdúság region (where Hajdúszoboszló is) in Hajdúszoboszló, Tisza means the river in Tiszaújváros (literal translation: Newtown-upon-Tisza, formerly known as Leninváros, which means Lenin Town). BKV is the public transport company in Budapest, Elöre means (go) ahead/forweard. DEAC is the acronym of Debreceni Egyetemi Atlétikai Club, which means it is the athletics sports club of the University of Debrecen.
Btw yes, our cat can also type strange 'words' or 'names' on the keyboard... :)
That's very interesting. Thank for taking the time to write it. Leninváros... I'm sure it changed the name in 1992 too.
Why do you think Hungarian football dropped its quality from the golden era? Is there a more popular sport?
Quote from: alanrotoi on May 03, 2022, 01:30:58 PM
That's very interesting. Thank for taking the time to write it. Leninváros... I'm sure it changed the name in 1992 too.
Why do you think Hungarian football dropped its quality from the golden era? Is there a more popular sport?
Hungarian regime change took place in 1989. This was the end of the communism/socialism in my country. Communist/socialist idols faded away during the years. Leninújváros changed its name to Tiszaújváros in 1990. The change of my hometown's football team's name can also be associated with the regime change, it happened in 1992. However, the change of street names in my hometown can be dated to a bit later. My former primary school changed its name from Kun Béla Általános Iskola (Béla Kun/Kohn [-> Hungarian-Jewish communist] Primary School) to Árpád Fejedelem Téri Általános Iskola (Square Lord/Monarch/Prince Árpád Primary School) only in 1994. Moreover, later in a nearby village, Sajókaza, we could still could find Lenin Street on the map. In Sajószentpéter, a small town nearby, we still have Élmunkás Street (Elite Worker Street, typical communist theory to be an elite worker)...
Btw Lenin Town... we also had Sztálinváros (Stalin Town) until 1961... brrrh...
Hungarian football quality drop: my next post... UPDATE 23rd June: next time I'll post about it.
ENG 0 - HUN 4 :o :o
What a beating! ;D
Tell me how a small country with 3,5 million people like Uruguay can have such high level in football? That's remarcable, they are up there almost since the football was born and they are so few. If India or China or Indonesia or Phillippines with their much higher population have had the same football culture than them we could face a major opponent.
Quote from: alanrotoi on June 17, 2022, 03:11:30 PM
Tell me how a small country with 3,5 million people like Uruguay can have such high level in football? That's remarcable, they are up there almost since the football was born and they are so few. If India or China or Indonesia or Phillippines with their much higher population have had the same football culture than them we could face a major opponent.
You gave the answer partly: football culture. Fanatism, enthusiasm, sense of football, atmosphere. And partly genetics. Latino people are really good at football. Chinese people will never be on that level. Just like Europeans (and South Americans) will never touch the table tennis ball like them. It is their sport. And none of us will run like Kenyan and Ethiopian runners.
Quote from: alanrotoi on June 15, 2022, 08:02:34 PM
ENG 0 - HUN 4 :o :o
What a beating! ;D
Well... I guess the English players really took this match easily. As for team Hungary, our Italian head coach built a decent team. We have some Bundesliga players, but of course individually the English team is better. But on that night, our team functioned better. And wanted the victory more. And had a scoring efficiency which is very rare. That's a shame for the English team, under no circumstances should they let a medium-level team win against them 4-0 in England. They deserved it because booed and whistled all the time during our anthem.
Quote from: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on June 23, 2022, 02:16:08 PM
And partly genetics. Latino people are really good at football. Chinese people will never be on that level. Just like Europeans (and South Americans) will never touch the table tennis ball like them. It is their sport. And none of us will run like Kenyan and Ethiopian runners.
I don't think genetics has an effect as large as culture. In Italy most kids will be exposed to football, many to volleyball and skying, a good number to track and field events. It took me 25 years to
see a table tennis table, and running any long distances is a pain with too many hills and mountains. So a really large pool of young people is constantly interested and "tested" in football, and you are bound to find the individuals motivated and interested in training.
Another thing that statistics point to is wealth: in rich countries kids and young people are more likely to have access to equipment, and time to play and train. This gives you again a larger pool, and better resources to improve. In poor countries, only exceptional individuals will be able to train, instead of working to support themselves and their family. Fewer participants, strong results, but usually only in "low cost" fields, long-distance running being a prime example.
Quote from: dreadnaut on June 23, 2022, 09:21:39 PM
Quote from: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on June 23, 2022, 02:16:08 PM
And partly genetics. Latino people are really good at football. Chinese people will never be on that level. Just like Europeans (and South Americans) will never touch the table tennis ball like them. It is their sport. And none of us will run like Kenyan and Ethiopian runners.
I don't think genetics has an effect as large as culture. In Italy most kids will be exposed to football, many to volleyball and skying, a good number to track and field events. It took me 25 years to see a table tennis table, and running any long distances is a pain with too many hills and mountains. So a really large pool of young people is constantly interested and "tested" in football, and you are bound to find the individuals motivated and interested in training.
Another thing that statistics point to is wealth: in rich countries kids and young people are more likely to have access to equipment, and time to play and train. This gives you again a larger pool, and better resources to improve. In poor countries, only exceptional individuals will be able to train, instead of working to support themselves and their family. Fewer participants, strong results, but usually only in "low cost" fields, long-distance running being a prime example.
Well, as far as I know, China has a huge football development program launched around 5-10 years ago, I'm really curious about its success. So they spend a lot of money on it. South American countries are not among the wealthiest nations, still, they can play excellent football. They don't need money to develop, they play great football in the small pitches between the houses, too.
About table tennis, it is a successful and relatively popular sport in Hungary. Maybe its success has been decreased a bit in the past 10-20 years, but earlier it was the case that Hungarian players were good at European and World Championships until they had to face a Chinese or a naturalized Chinese player...
I know a few people who were playing it as a registered player in sports clubs (one of them in the third Hungarian division), however, they weren't professional players. I also like to play table tennis very much, sometimes I play it against my wife. Many of us grew up in playgrounds where there were table tennis tables (from concrete of course).
Not the same for volleyball. It is quite an unpopular sport somehow in Hungary, especially related to its world popularity. Volleyball is introduced to only a very few children. I guess most Hungarians were never taught playing volleyball and never played indoor volleyball. In schools, rather football, basketball or handball is played in classes. Some people are playing it only on the beaches as 100% amateurs. But there are surprisingly few professional Hungarian players and teams registered (one of the top Hungarian teams is in my hometown, Kazincbarcika, so the popularity here is higher than in most places in my country). Our international teams are weak, too, especially the men's squad.
About running, let's see short distance running. In the world elite (for example, in an Olympic final), you will find only massive, muscular black people (once or twice a white man might occur, but really rarely). White people can load tons of money into short distance running, they still won't or barely run under 10 seconds. When you see long distance running, its the field of tall and thin African people. White athletes can rather dominate in technical events (e.g. pole vault). I find the genetic factor almost as important as culture.
Yes, skiing needs money (and mountains, too). It is not a sport for Hungary, that's sure. Though I like alpine skiing very much and I follow the World Cup every year on Eurosport or ORF1.
Who will win this world cup? Who will be the surprise team? Will Canada score a goal?
Are you on shock!? It's another goal by Vitor Roque!
Let's go to our second Libertadores final...
Quote from: alanrotoi on August 08, 2022, 06:59:35 AMWho will be the surprise team?
Do you still want to know? ;)
There is a huge difference between winning a single fixed match and being the surprise team of the tournament.
Quote from: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on November 22, 2022, 06:21:52 PMThere is a huge difference between winning a single fixed match and being the surprise team of the tournament.
It was not intended as a serious analysis, just as a friendly insult. :)
Btw, I don't think the match was fixed. Argentinians got punished for their overconfidence, but can still go far if they learn the lesson.
Yes it wasn't a funny morning. Mexico and Poland finished in a tie so it was the best result we could expect from them. I think both will beat Saudi Arabia.
PRRUUUU PRRRUUUU PRRRUUU (is the Pigeon sound in brazilian portuguese)
Two goals of Richarlison, O Pombo (The Pigeon).
I prefer alias like Socrates or Dunga or Alemao, but "Richarlison".... my god.
Quote from: alanrotoi on November 25, 2022, 03:32:27 AMI prefer alias like Socrates or Dunga or Alemao, but "Richarlison".... my god.
Richarlison and Sócrates are real first names. Dunga is the brazilian name of Dopey, the mute Snow White's dwarf. Alemão means German, because he looks like a blondie german man.
Lionel Messi is a little far away from his best days, but stills magical.
After his goal the team started to play in this World Cup. But in a so short tournament it is match by match.
Yesterday Spain 1 Germany 1... Almost out Deutschland. They must win and wait for the other match.
Today's big match is Portugal vs Uruguay. Then Brazil vs Serbia I expect a 2 - 0 for Brazil.
Quote from: alanrotoi on November 28, 2022, 04:52:54 AMThen Brazil vs Serbia I expect a 2 - 0 for Brazil.
Perfect (although a bit late) prediction! ;D
https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/match-centre/match/17/255711/285063/400235484
Haha I was so sleepy. I was referring to Brazil vs Switzerland ;D
Quote from: alanrotoi on November 28, 2022, 04:52:54 AMYesterday Spain 1 Germany 1... Almost out Deutschland. They must win and wait for the other match.
I still expect Germany to sneak through, but with how that group is going you never know, as all sorts of things are happening there (late turnaround drama! old-school blowout! absurdist comedy! high energy standoff!).
Ghana vs. Uruguay on Friday with qualification at stake -- spicy! (Let's just hope Alonso won't have his team start with 3 DMs again!)
Well, I had thought the World Cup will re-raise my interest in football, but it didn't happen... In the past 15 years, I had seen a lot of things happening. I can observe the chance of a match being fixed in every match. The role of money and player neutralization reached extreme high levels. My bet was France as champions and Mbappé as golden boot winner, but these were rather anticipated instead of being technically explained.
I still prefer to watch ice hockey, alpine skiing, ski jumping, road cycling, or if these are not available, handball, biathlon, nordic combined, car racing or sometimes even water polo, volleyball, futsal, basketball instead of football...
Not to mention (I'm convinced) corruption, oppression and systematic violation of human rights. (Applies to the Olympics as well unfortunately, which i did like to follow, but don't watch anymore for that reason)
The referee stole the match for USA against Iran. A not sanctioned last minute penalty would gave the match to Iran. Suspicious.
I think that wasn't a penalty -- no shirt pull, and it isn't clear that the contact brought Taremi down. A better view of the key moment on the broadcast replay would have been useful, though!
I hope so. I wanted Iran to win but I want more the fair play.
Poland almost out. Ok next round is Australia.
That's some way to qualify, Poland... Anyway, Australia vs. Argentina has such a nice ring to it -- it makes me feel like booting up some old FIFA and picking the first two NTs on the menu for a match :)
Poland qualified because they have fewer yellow cards than Mexico. First time it happens in a World Cup I guess.
:'(
Well, our championship is officially over.
If you're not getting a shot at beating Germany, it's just not worth it.
Quote from: Overdrijf on December 02, 2022, 07:32:53 AMWell, our championship is officially over.
That's too bad. I really like doing my groceries during the game. Very quiet outside 8)
Quote from: alanrotoi on December 01, 2022, 03:16:25 AMPoland qualified because they have fewer yellow cards than Mexico. First time it happens in a World Cup I guess.
Poland qualified with better goal difference (2-2 vs. 2-3).
Quote from: Usrin on December 02, 2022, 03:11:15 PMQuote from: alanrotoi on December 01, 2022, 03:16:25 AMPoland qualified because they have fewer yellow cards than Mexico. First time it happens in a World Cup I guess.
Poland qualified with better goal difference (2-2 vs. 2-3).
Right, I didn't know the last minute goal from Saudi Arabia. ;)
Go Uruguay! (Uruguay vs Ghana, a hard match since 2010 world cup!)
Quote from: alanrotoi on December 02, 2022, 04:30:12 PMGo Uruguay! (Uruguay vs Ghana, a hard match since 2010 world cup!)
Wow, what a sucker punch :-\
unexpected results from the world cup:
Saudi Arabia 2 - Argentina 1
Japan 2 - Germany 1
South Korea 2 - Portugal 1
Tunisia 1 - France 0
Japan 2 - Spain 1
"National"elf is out.
Spot the differences....
I was going to say "oh my, those moustaches!" — but in the modern photo they might be all hiding a moustache! ;D
Imagine cr7's face right now... ;D
Argentina winning the World Cup and the ZakStunts championship on the same week-end! 😱
Quote from: dreadnaut on December 18, 2022, 07:47:38 PMArgentina winning the World Cup and the ZakStunts championship on the same week-end! 😱
It is truly the greatest achievement any country can hope for.
Congratulations to all who are from Argentina, feel like they are from Argentina, like football and/or Stunts or just feel like celebrating something.
Messi played a fantastic WC as a leader. Di María was the game key today and Dibu Martínez is a world class goalkeeper. Congrats Hermanos!
Quote from: Shoegazing Leo on December 18, 2022, 09:24:15 PMMessi played a fantastic WC as a leader. Di María was the game key today and Dibu Martínez is a world class goalkeeper. Congrats Hermanos!
Indeed! A final for the ages, against a France team taking on the role of yesteryear's Germany -- steely, never to be counted out opponents -- and ending on a very well deserved victory!
Quote from: dreadnaut on December 18, 2022, 07:47:38 PMArgentina winning the World Cup and the ZakStunts championship on the same week-end! 😱
Hahaha I'm so happy. Messi has his world cup, Argentina its third. There are many things to analyze of this team and manager. I'll wait for the experts opinions. Now I'm back from the celebration in the local square. Everybody is happy. Southamericans lives football like this.
I think people stayed till late yesterday at the concentration points of each city in Argentina. I heard in the news that as people were all packed there and couldn't go anywhere for hours, they were doing... well, what the body needs, wherever they could. Not nice, ha, ha. So I guess the happiest people celebrating were the ones in the "outskirts" of the crowd ;D
Today is a normal day again. Things that are so difficult to achieve should have a longer impact, somehow. Although, I must say, I wouldn't want that impact to be a crowd in the middle of the city if it's going to last several days :p Maybe something more like a Christmas season, with its decorations, or a celebration fair somewhere. But yes, one day is just too brief.
RIP King Pelé
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioA0DwrriWM&vl=pt
Rest in peace, Pelé