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Stunts - the Game => Live Races => Topic started by: KyLiE on March 07, 2022, 07:18:24 AM

Poll
Question: Which car should we use for The Purple Sunset Enduro?
Option 1: Chevrolet Corvette CERV III votes: 4
Option 2: Ferrari F40 votes: 2
Option 3: Lamborghini Countach votes: 0
Option 4: Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R votes: 0
Option 5: Porsche 911 Turbo votes: 2
Title: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: KyLiE on March 07, 2022, 07:18:24 AM
The Purple Sunset Enduro is named in honour of the last live race winner, Duplode.  The race is scheduled for Saturday the 2nd of April 2022 at 12:00 UTC.  Below are the corresponding times for those who participated in the last live race:

  • Saturday 09:00 Buenos Aires
  • Saturday 09:00 São Paulo
  • Saturday 14:00 Amsterdam
  • Saturday 14:00 Budapest
  • Saturday 14:00 Rome
  • Saturday 22:00 Brisbane
The car and track will be revealed closer to the race day.  If you would like to participate, please confirm your attendance in this topic.  If you would like to participate but are unavailable at the scheduled time, please let me know so I can try to organise an alternate time.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Daniel3D on March 07, 2022, 09:51:02 AM
It's not possible to say in advanced if I can make it. But I would like to, and I will try.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: alanrotoi on March 07, 2022, 10:04:00 AM
Me too. I hope I won't forget it :)
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Duplode on March 07, 2022, 10:46:41 PM
What an honour  :D (And I'll show up, of course!  ;))
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Cas on March 08, 2022, 12:26:47 AM
I will be at work that day at that time, but that may be a good thing. Saturdays are usually quiet when I have to work and if it were a day off, I would have to wake up early, ha, ha. So count me in. During my working shift, I will be setting up my tasks to try to have some time at the race scheduled time. In case of any issues, I'll let you know, but I don't think there will be any :)
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: dreadnaut on March 08, 2022, 07:20:44 PM
Added to my calendar, thank you for organising!
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: alanrotoi on March 09, 2022, 11:12:55 PM
Will we meet in the chat?
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: KyLiE on March 12, 2022, 12:52:31 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on March 09, 2022, 11:12:55 PM
Will we meet in the chat?

Yes. :)
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Cas on March 29, 2022, 03:54:11 AM
OK, I'll be there. It will be a Saturday with no special scheduled activity at work, which tends to be quiet. I'll make sure to prepare the chat and forum in case anything would occur, so I can let you guys know, but it's almost sure I'll be able to make it on time.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: alanrotoi on March 29, 2022, 01:50:51 PM
Is there any racing rule or just free?
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: KyLiE on March 29, 2022, 06:20:15 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on March 29, 2022, 01:50:51 PM
Is there any racing rule or just free?

Freestyle rules, however penalty time is not allowed.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Frieshansen on March 29, 2022, 07:02:38 PM
Will also be there
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: dreadnaut on March 29, 2022, 07:25:16 PM
Quote from: KyLiE on March 29, 2022, 06:20:15 PM
Freestyle rules, however penalty time is not allowed.
Oh, that'd be tricky to validate on a non-ending replay. Might be easier to ensure that the track does not have shortcuts with penalty worth taking.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: alanrotoi on March 29, 2022, 07:46:05 PM
I'm so in! The last (maybe the only) live race I took part was the one Mingva organized back in October 2002 and I sucked :D I can't find the post about it, only the beginning of the idea and its rules in an ISA topic. http://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?topic=627.0

By the way, how many time we will have to race? Should we film the race? How it will be?
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: dreadnaut on March 29, 2022, 07:55:17 PM
Confirmed! I have an eye test at early in the morning, but I should have plenty of time to be ready :)
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: KyLiE on March 29, 2022, 08:40:15 PM
Quote from: dreadnaut on March 29, 2022, 07:25:16 PM
Might be easier to ensure that the track does not have shortcuts with penalty worth taking.

Do you mean worth taking including the penalty time that the game applies?  If so, it will still be difficult to validate the replay since it won't show any evidence of penalty time unless you cross the finish line.

Quote from: alanrotoi on March 29, 2022, 07:46:05 PM
By the way, how many time we will have to race? Should we film the race? How it will be?

As per the Le Stunts endurance racing (http://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?topic=2801.0) topic, you will have 12 minutes to record an 8 minute replay.  You're welcome to film yourself during the race, but it's not required.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Overdrijf on March 29, 2022, 10:11:23 PM
I'll be trying to make it. It's an extra crazy week this week in an already packed 3 months, but live racing is live racing.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: alanrotoi on March 29, 2022, 10:20:08 PM
Quote from: KyLiE on March 29, 2022, 08:40:15 PM
Quote from: dreadnaut on March 29, 2022, 07:25:16 PM
Might be easier to ensure that the track does not have shortcuts with penalty worth taking.

Do you mean worth taking including the penalty time that the game applies?  If so, it will still be difficult to validate the replay since it won't show any evidence of penalty time unless you cross the finish line.

Quote from: alanrotoi on March 29, 2022, 07:46:05 PM
By the way, how many time we will have to race? Should we film the race? How it will be?

As per the Le Stunts endurance racing (http://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?topic=2801.0) topic, you will have 12 minutes to record an 8 minute replay.  You're welcome to film yourself during the race, but it's not required.

Thank you! Now I know how it works
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: dreadnaut on March 29, 2022, 11:08:01 PM
Quote from: KyLiE on March 29, 2022, 08:40:15 PM
Do you mean worth taking including the penalty time that the game applies?  If so, it will still be difficult to validate the replay since it won't show any evidence of penalty time unless you cross the finish line.

Excluding the penalty time ;D  Cutting the track should take longer than sticking close to the track.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Overdrijf on March 30, 2022, 10:33:56 AM
Just don't drive lines that give penalty time. Anything else is on the table.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Daniel3D on March 30, 2022, 11:08:15 AM
So, basically just follow the road. Stunts may not be bypassed but taken as you like. Bridges and up/down corkscrew may be bypassed.

Is that right?

Replays will be reviewed I reckon?
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: KyLiE on March 30, 2022, 05:36:15 PM
Quote from: dreadnaut on March 29, 2022, 11:08:01 PM
Cutting the track should take longer than sticking close to the track.

In that case, I will update the track so we can race with freestyle rules and allow penalty time.  Not that it will be worth it anymore, but at least everyone will have the freedom to race as they please.  The only requirement is that you must cross the designated finish line to complete a lap.

Quote from: Overdrijf on March 30, 2022, 10:33:56 AM
Just don't drive lines that give penalty time. Anything else is on the table.

That's what I thought.  On both tracks that were used in the last live race (http://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?topic=3629.0), half of the track could be bypassed if you ignored penalty time, but nobody did that.  In any case, it shouldn't be an issue for this race. :)

Quote from: Daniel3D on March 30, 2022, 11:08:15 AM
So, basically just follow the road. Stunts may not be bypassed but taken as you like. Bridges and up/down corkscrew may be bypassed.

Is that right?

Replays will be reviewed I reckon?

As I mentioned, we will be racing with freestyle rules, just like ZakStunts.  The only difference is that penalty time will be ignored.  Like the last live race (http://forum.stunts.hu/index.php?topic=3629.0), everyone's replay will be reviewed by a fellow pipsqueak immediately after the race and the results posted in this topic.  I will review everyone's replay again later when I prepare the race summary.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Overdrijf on March 30, 2022, 07:22:46 PM
So I can just run tiny circles across the finish line and back? ;D
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: KyLiE on March 31, 2022, 07:02:22 AM
Quote from: Overdrijf on March 30, 2022, 07:22:46 PM
So I can just run tiny circles across the finish line and back? ;D

I feel like I'm going down a rabbit hole with this.  You could do that, but that's not fun and we're here to have fun, right?
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: alanrotoi on March 31, 2022, 12:26:56 PM
Why penalty time won't count? It is because the short time we have to race?
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: KyLiE on March 31, 2022, 03:58:27 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on March 31, 2022, 12:26:56 PM
Why penalty time won't count? It is because the short time we have to race?

As dreadnaut mentioned, it makes it difficult to validate the replays.  When the game applies penalty time, it makes you aware of this in two ways:

  • A message on the screen while you are driving.
  • On the evaluation screen after you cross the finish line.
However, when you play back a replay where penalty time was applied, the message that appeared while you were driving is no longer visible.  The only way to tell is to continue driving and cross the finish line.  In the case of a live race, there is a good chance that you won't be anywhere near the finish line at the end of the replay.  Therefore, to make it easier for everyone to review the replays after the race, the decision was made to ignore penalty time completely.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: alanrotoi on March 31, 2022, 04:06:16 PM
Ooh understood! :D Sorry I'm slow learning :D
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Cas on March 31, 2022, 09:28:45 PM
How about this?: the replay verifying person is free to choose whether to take the time to verify if there's penalty time and if there is, add it to the lap time. If somebody does something crazy like just going around the start/finish line, that's a good time to do just this, ha, ha... But if the replay looks normal, probably the verifying person will choose to not do it. Just in case, it's always better to try to not get penalty time :P
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: KyLiE on April 01, 2022, 02:25:18 PM
Attached is the track for tomorrow's race.  I've added a poll to vote for the car that we'll be using.  To avoid confusion, we'll be racing with the rules that have been discussed.  That is, freestyle rules and penalty time will be ignored.  I'll be in the chat an hour before the race to prepare and answer any last-minute questions. :)
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: alanrotoi on April 01, 2022, 03:49:29 PM
Nice! Downloaded. About the car I voted Nissan but I tryied to vote Porsche 911 Turbo that I haven't tried for years and we can't find it in any competition this year. Sorry! My vote goes for Porsche 911 Turbo.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Daniel3D on April 01, 2022, 06:20:36 PM
Quote from: KyLiE on April 01, 2022, 02:25:18 PM
I've added a poll to vote for the car that we'll be using. 
I don't know all cars. Can you please tell me which ones have PG?   8)
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: alanrotoi on April 01, 2022, 07:40:04 PM
None of the as far as I remember.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: dreadnaut on April 02, 2022, 12:54:59 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on April 01, 2022, 03:49:29 PM
Nice! Downloaded. About the car I voted Nissan but I tryied to vote Porsche 911 Turbo that I haven't tried for years and we can't find it in any competition this year. Sorry! My vote goes for Porsche 911 Turbo.

I moved your vote from the Nissan to the Porsche 911 Turbo.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: alanrotoi on April 02, 2022, 02:12:08 AM
Haha thank you for fixing my mess :D
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Overdrijf on April 02, 2022, 11:43:08 AM
Is CERV III confirmed as the car? (Then I don't have an installation to do.)

I'll see you guys in 2 hours!
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: KyLiE on April 02, 2022, 11:50:42 AM
Quote from: Overdrijf on April 02, 2022, 11:43:08 AM
Is CERV III confirmed as the car?

Voting hasn't closed yet, but it's looking that way!
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Cas on April 02, 2022, 01:18:06 PM
Here I am!
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: alanrotoi on April 02, 2022, 01:18:31 PM
I'll be in the chatroom in 10 mins.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Cas on April 02, 2022, 02:06:11 PM
A little modification to the track. Posting now
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Cas on April 02, 2022, 02:28:21 PM
Here goes mine. It ends in a beautiful crash at exactly 8 minutes :D
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Overdrijf on April 02, 2022, 02:28:48 PM
efw
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Duplode on April 02, 2022, 02:29:13 PM
Done!
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: alanrotoi on April 02, 2022, 02:29:25 PM
my r
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Frieshansen on April 02, 2022, 02:29:50 PM
snst
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: KyLiE on April 02, 2022, 02:32:13 PM
My replay attached.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Overdrijf on April 02, 2022, 02:40:59 PM
Cas:

Lap 1: 1:35.25
Lap 2: 3:02.05 (1:26.80)
Lap 3: 4:27.00 (1:24.95)
Lap 4: 5:50.55 (1:23.55)
Lap 5: 7:16.25 (1:25.70)
8:00 at half a carlength past the first block of the "last minute addition" slalom.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Duplode on April 02, 2022, 02:43:28 PM
Overdrijf lap times:

1. 1:27.75 (1:20.75)
2. 2:48.55 (1:20.80)
3. 4:09.55 (1:21.00)
4. 5:29.90 (1:20.35)
5. 6:51.50 (1:21.60)
8 minutes right after the second loop
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Cas on April 02, 2022, 02:45:29 PM
KyLiE's lap times:

0:07.00
1:28.20 (1:21.20)
2:48.05 (1:19.85)
4:08.40 (1:20.35)
5:27.15 (1:18.75)
6:45.00 (1:17.85)
8:00.00 - Approaching the s/f line, passing the turning sign

Almost 6 laps
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: KyLiE on April 02, 2022, 02:55:06 PM
Frieshansen's results attached.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: alanrotoi on April 02, 2022, 02:59:09 PM
Duplode's lap times:

1:26.90
2:45.55
4:04.65
5:23.30
6:42.10
8:00.00 - at the end of the last corner almost in the finish line.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Frieshansen on April 02, 2022, 03:26:19 PM
Alan´s lap times:

1. 1:27,55
2. 2:45,90 (1:18,35)
3. 4:04,05 (1:18,15)
4. 5:22,00 (1:17,95)
5. 6:40,30 (1:18,30)
6. 7:58,60 (1:18,30)
8:00 at the end of the dirt tile
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: alanrotoi on April 03, 2022, 01:54:11 AM
Watch today's live race! Enjoy! :D After the 8th minute appears the map of the track and the final positions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTF4eN5Tgn8
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Overdrijf on April 03, 2022, 10:42:55 AM
Beautiful video!

Looks like driving around the loop was just about as fast as just driving through it. Nice map at the end too. The avatars are a nice touch. And next time we should give everyone their own color car on purpose. :D

(The times between brackets for the first lap are a tad inconsistent, but I'm just a complainopus.)
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Daniel3D on April 03, 2022, 11:16:39 AM
Indeed a very nice video.
And congrats on the victory   ;D
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Cas on April 05, 2022, 01:38:18 AM
Great video!  Makes me think we should have a stable site for the Live Races, where we could find all scoreboards, tracks and replays for download individually, links to the videos for each race, etc. :)
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Frieshansen on April 05, 2022, 08:19:18 AM
Awesome video and as expected a perfect result - congratulations Alan!
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: alanrotoi on April 05, 2022, 05:06:45 PM
Thank you! Also congrats to KyLiE for the excellent organization and to have made the fastest lap! (1:17.85)
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: KyLiE on April 05, 2022, 07:15:17 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on April 03, 2022, 01:54:11 AM
Watch today's live race! Enjoy! :D

That's an excellent video!  Also, thank you for doing my job for me! ;)

For those of you who are interested in the static results, here is the scoreboard with the fastest lap times:








1. Alan Rotoi   1:17.95
2. Duplode   1:18.60
3. KyLiE   1:17.85
4. Overdrijf   1:20.35
5. Cas   1:23.50
6. Frieshansen   1:24.00

Congratulations to Alan Rotoi for winning the race!  Duplode and I followed close behind in second and third place, respectively.  Also, we saw a great result from Frieshansen in his first live race.  Well done!  I have attached a map showing everyone's position at the 8 minute mark.

Quote from: alanrotoi on April 05, 2022, 05:06:45 PM
Also congrats to KyLiE for the excellent organization and to have made the fastest lap! (1:17.85)

Thanks!  I look forward to racing with you all again soon! :)
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: dreadnaut on April 05, 2022, 07:49:21 PM
Wow, the top three were really close!

Sorry for missing the race :(  My eyes took almost a whole day to be back to normal after the tests.

I'll be there for the next one, in three months!
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: alanrotoi on April 06, 2022, 06:04:07 PM
Quote from: dreadnaut on April 05, 2022, 07:49:21 PM
Wow, the top three were really close

Yep, at least in the 1st lap the leading was shared by Duplode, KyLiE, Overdrijf and me, 4 pipsqueaks took it.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Cas on April 06, 2022, 09:38:43 PM
A top down video of the race would be very interesting to see :)
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: ZdnBurns on April 16, 2022, 02:40:48 PM
Hi guys!
Unfortunately I have missed many events and races.
I didn't know about the enduros. This is a excellent idea!
I have used another way for make tracks for various laps, like this in attachment.
I hope to participate in the next enduro!
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: ZdnBurns on April 16, 2022, 04:28:53 PM
Another trick...
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: alanrotoi on April 16, 2022, 05:17:42 PM
The next race is scheduled the 2nd or 3rd of July - Race B Organised by: Cas, Overdrijf, . Come the next time!!

I would say I want another race before July. We only need:

* A chatroom ( http://forum.stunts.hu/chat/ )
* A track (it should be easy to drive so it is possible to build in few minutes or just use and old one)
* pipsqueaks connecting to the chat at the same time for 40 mins - 1 hour :) (weekends seems to be the best option)
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Daniel3D on April 16, 2022, 06:01:52 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on April 16, 2022, 05:17:42 PM
or just use and old one
CACTUS..... please...
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: alanrotoi on April 16, 2022, 07:48:09 PM
Quote from: ZdnBurns on April 16, 2022, 02:40:48 PM
I didn't know about the enduros. This is a excellent idea!
We could set another live race in the following weekends. We can organize it if you agree. :D

Quote from: ZdnBurns on April 16, 2022, 02:40:48 PM
I hope to participate in the next enduro!

A good practice for noRH or live racing is in Race for Kicks.
http://www.raceforkicks.com/index.php?page=race&race=2022-04

Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Cas on April 16, 2022, 10:58:31 PM
@ZdnBurns - That's very ingenious, specially the second track!!  It took me a minute to realise what was going on!

I'll start making tracks for July. With Overdrijf, we'll surely provide two or three. What do you think, mate?

@Alan Rotoi - If you want to quickly set up another one sooner, I may be able to make it. If it's going to be early, it's better on a weekend that I have to work. If it's going to be late, it's better on a weekend I have off. This weekend, I'm working.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: ZdnBurns on April 17, 2022, 04:27:06 AM
@Cas, now I noted that my first suggestion is not something new, you used it at Cactus!

Great! I hope enjoy the next events and help as possible.

The second suggestion is about go and come back on the same path (I don't know how explain that clearly in English). I was thinking about it some months ago, and something like that was what I found more functional.
It is also interesting if you want to use some things not allowed, like a bridge without the down ramp. But I think it's not a big new for everybody here.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: alanrotoi on April 17, 2022, 05:48:03 AM
Quote from: ZdnBurns on April 17, 2022, 04:27:06 AM
It is also interesting if you want to use some things not allowed, like a bridge without the down ramp. But I think it's not a big new for everybody here.

It's new for me. I've never been a noRH or a live race pipsqueak. (Only on e 20 years ago). It's a great community event and we can find a different use of the game with these kind of tracks.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Cas on April 17, 2022, 04:00:04 PM
Yes, there's always something new!

I think that Stunts 1.0 allowed for a path that is connected to the start/finish line to be incomplete as long as at least one path was complete. But Stunts 1.1 requires that all paths that are connected to the start/finish line be complete!  If you want to drive on a normally illegal path, you have to disconnect it in a way akin to what you (ZdnBurns) did in the second track. The problem with this is that Stunts does not "follow" your car and when you come back to cross the finish line, you will either get a crazy penalty time or Stunts won't realise you crossed it at all and will continue recording. That makes it hard to verify and give an exact lap time.
Title: Re: The Purple Sunset Enduro (2022-04-02)
Post by: Overdrijf on April 18, 2022, 06:12:24 PM
Quote from: ZdnBurns on April 16, 2022, 04:28:53 PM
Another trick...

Oeh, I might steal that trick for the next live track.

I did a track with a sort of similar idea in Zakstunts last season, but not like this, and this seems pretty impossible in a regular race.

Welcome aboard!