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ZakStunts - the Competition => Competition Archive => Competition 2023 => Topic started by: alanrotoi on January 17, 2023, 10:07:30 PM

Title: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: alanrotoi on January 17, 2023, 10:07:30 PM
2 days of competition and what a hype!! A great battle for the leading. Oh and a great new idea: single-car podium scoreboards!

This oldie track is hard. What car is best? Lm002? Lancia? Indy? McLaren? Anyother?
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: Daniel3D on January 17, 2023, 10:32:49 PM
I chose it because it's hard and tricky, but also doable and (hopefully) fun for everyone.
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: dreadnaut on January 18, 2023, 12:15:17 AM
Indeed, it is quite a nice one. Thank you for choosing it, @Daniel3D!
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: alanrotoi on January 23, 2023, 04:30:50 AM
Somebody said Bonzai Joes record with Indy was beaten. ::)
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: Daniel3D on January 23, 2023, 10:49:17 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on January 23, 2023, 04:30:50 AMSomebody said Bonzai Joes record with Indy was beaten. ::)
Yes, and it has a trick that applies to the McLaren as well. So, i guess That's why it's not posted yet  8)
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: Erik Barros on January 25, 2023, 02:19:45 PM
Nice track, a tricky jump in the begining with a slow car. Back in 2003, which cars were allowed on this track?
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: Daniel3D on January 25, 2023, 02:36:19 PM
Quote from: Erik Barros on January 25, 2023, 02:19:45 PMNice track, a tricky jump in the begining with a slow car. Back in 2003, which cars were allowed on this track?
Only the Indy. The time before (June 2001 I think also at kalpens) was also the Indy. It's the third battle on this track  8)
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: alanrotoi on January 25, 2023, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: Erik Barros on January 25, 2023, 02:19:45 PMNice track, a tricky jump in the begining with a slow car. Back in 2003, which cars were allowed on this track?

It was a Porsche/March INDY exclusive competition.

The old name of the track is CTK2003a.trk

You can check the old scoreboard here:
http://stunts.kalpen.de/contest.htm
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: Daniel3D on January 26, 2023, 10:17:31 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on January 25, 2023, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: Erik Barros on January 25, 2023, 02:19:45 PMNice track, a tricky jump in the begining with a slow car. Back in 2003, which cars were allowed on this track?

It was a Porsche/March INDY exclusive competition.

The old name of the track is CTK2003a.trk

You can check the old scoreboard here:
http://stunts.kalpen.de/contest.htm
2003a was the second time. The original is from 2001.

ctrack31.trk (June):
CAP: 0.47.70
Mark Nailwood: 0.47.95
Fdzierva: 0.48.25
Roy Wiegerinck: 0.50.15
Bonzai Joe: 0.50.95
ManOnMoon: 0.51.35
Ben Snel: 0.53.60
Zak McKracken: 0.53.65
Death Lock (Canada): 0.55.80
Heino The Boy: 0.56.35
Warcher_44 (Netherlands): 0.56.80
JTK: 0.57.30
Juanchito (?): 0.58.00
KHR: 0.58.15
Jonz (Germany): 1.00.25
Darth Vedder: 1.00.30
Groovedigga (Germany): 1.00.95
Flying Dutchman (Netherlands): 1.03.05
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: Argammon on January 26, 2023, 11:18:17 AM
Results in 2003:


CTK2003a.trk (August):
Bonzai Joe: 0.46.20
Il Professore (France): 0.46.30
Akoss Poo (Hungary): 0.46.80
Argammon (Germany): 0.47.40
Zak McKracken: 0.48.35
Tsino (Colombia): 0.48.35
-=[FSB]=- (Brazil): 0.49.20
XDude_NL (Netherlands): 0.49.30
Fdzierva: (0.49.60)
Usrin (Hungary): 0.49.95
Krys TOFF (France): 0.50.00
Flaute (Germany): 0.51.75
Alan Rotoi (Argentina): 0.53.75
Satanziege (Germany): 0.55.10
Mushi (Portugal): 0.57.80
Janez (Argentina): 0.58.35
Juethy (Germany): 0.59.70
Leo Ramone (Brazil): 1.00.15
T3omi (Germany): 1.00.15
Viole (Ecuador): 1.00.30
JackTheRipper (Germany): 1.04.50
Q (UK): 1.05.35
KHR: 1.06.20
JTK: 1.06.55
Neil McRae (Canada): 1.10.60


Indy results in 2023:

Argammon: 46.05
Duplode: 52.80
Alanrotoi: 54.35
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: Duplode on January 26, 2023, 04:14:34 PM
Quote from: Argammon on January 26, 2023, 11:18:17 AMDuplode: 52.80

15 pipsqueaks ahead of this lap in the all-time combined scoreboard. Work cut out for me  :)
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: dreadnaut on January 26, 2023, 08:13:57 PM
QuoteIndy - Argammon 0:46.05
Now we expect a comeback from @BonzaiJoe!   Cork's Crew, bring him on the track!
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: Daniel3D on January 26, 2023, 11:39:07 PM
Quote from: dreadnaut on January 26, 2023, 08:13:57 PM
QuoteIndy - Argammon 0:46.05
Now we expect a comeback from @BonzaiJoe!   Cork's Crew, bring him on the track!
can he upload his old replay? Looks good on the single car scoreboard and doesn't matter much for the main scoreboard.
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: alanrotoi on January 27, 2023, 01:33:32 AM
Maybe to add all the old records in grey italic?
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: dreadnaut on January 27, 2023, 08:19:18 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on January 27, 2023, 01:33:32 AMMaybe to add all the old records in grey italic?

If we have the replays, we can upload those of existing pipsqueaks. Otherwise, I'm not going to implement "pseudo-replays" 😅
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: alanrotoi on February 03, 2023, 11:41:27 AM
Mark Nailwood in the scoreboard!  8)  8)
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: Duplode on February 03, 2023, 05:04:09 PM
And he's back right in the thick of the action! Amazing  8)
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: Argammon on February 04, 2023, 09:20:39 PM
MCLaren in action. No penalty time, of course.  8)

Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: alanrotoi on February 05, 2023, 03:01:09 AM
Quote from: Argammon on February 04, 2023, 09:20:39 PMMCLaren in action. No penalty time, of course.  8)



Interesting... Then still it's a challenge against Lacia.


By the way, Mark Nailwood now reach 4th place. One step to the podium!
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: Argammon on February 05, 2023, 09:12:07 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on February 05, 2023, 03:01:09 AM
Quote from: Argammon on February 04, 2023, 09:20:39 PMMCLaren in action. No penalty time, of course.  8)



Interesting... Then still it's a challenge against Lacia.


By the way, Mark Nailwood now reach 4th place. One step to the podium!

Welcome Mark! It is great to be racing against such a legend. Your time is very good considering you are using auto gears.  :)

Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: dreadnaut on February 05, 2023, 12:57:57 PM
@Mark Nailwood — by creating a new account, you start in the "Amateur" scoreboard. If you feel you don't belong there, you can ask to be promoted immediately ;D
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: dreadnaut on February 07, 2023, 10:56:16 PM
Quote from: Argammon on February 04, 2023, 09:20:39 PMMCLaren in action. No penalty time, of course.  8)

Dum de dum...

Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: dreadnaut on February 12, 2023, 12:40:17 AM
@Zapper, you sent two replays with the same time—your best time!—and ZakStunts can't deal with that ;D

I've removed the second you posted from the scoreboard, but I'm attaching it here
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: alanrotoi on February 12, 2023, 01:33:47 AM
This was the most race track since zct94 (2009) with 151 replays sent.
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: Mark Nailwood on February 12, 2023, 01:38:46 AM
Quote from: dreadnaut on February 05, 2023, 12:57:57 PM@Mark Nailwood — by creating a new account, you start in the "Amateur" scoreboard. If you feel you don't belong there, you can ask to be promoted immediately ;D
Well, I have to admit, position 8 in my comeback race is better than expected. And hey, I also managed to place my name at one of the car podiums!  8)

@dreadnaut - I think after more than 20 years of retirement, it's ok if I race at least my comeback season in the amateuer league (if no one of the other amateurs objects). Or is there also a league for "Resurrected professionals"?  ;)

Looking forward to the next track. Thanks to all for the warm welcome in the community!
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: alanrotoi on February 12, 2023, 03:24:25 AM
I must congratulate you Mark. I always saw your impressive records. After you retired there were a couple of "revolutions" of pipsqueaks and the performance improved quiet a lot. You are a good pipsqueak, no doubt, but  I bet you are also a very competitive man.
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: Zapper on February 12, 2023, 12:28:10 PM
Quote from: dreadnaut on February 12, 2023, 12:40:17 AM@Zapper, you sent two replays with the same time—your best time!—and ZakStunts can't deal with that ;D

I've removed the second you posted from the scoreboard, but I'm attaching it here
Hi @dreadnaut, I was in doubt of what file I had submitted, so I'm guilt in causing confusion ZakStunts.  ::)
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: dreadnaut on February 12, 2023, 02:07:17 PM
Ahha, no worries. I should fix the code, but it'll take me a bit ;D
Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: Duplode on February 12, 2023, 04:08:23 PM
That was a really good comeback race indeed, @Mark Nailwood -- great to see!  :)

Quote from: alanrotoi on February 12, 2023, 01:33:47 AMThis was the most race track since zct94 (2009) with 151 replays sent.

With the replays sent in the final half-hour, we ended at 157 replays (or 158, counting Zapper's alternate!), which is the highest since ZCT049 in 2005!

There were plenty of interesting things going on in ZCT258. Just for starters, one replay that is squarely in the must-watch playlist is @Argammon 's final GTO lap (direct download link (https://zak.stunts.hu/replays/4e58d8df7276a9084d17754a5303b9028d9d3f3a)), which dislodged me from the top of the GTO podium. Watching it, one can't help but wonder how far that line could be taken...

This race definitely calls for the classic spreadsheet analysis. I'll look into doing it soon!

Title: ZCT258 Analysis
Post by: Duplode on March 12, 2023, 08:43:11 AM
To go along with Daniel3D's guest article, here is the ZCT258 analysis!

Sector definitions:

(https://i.imgur.com/WHRiep8.png)

Split times (non-Lancia laps had their times corrected):

(https://i.imgur.com/GjS4n3m.png)

Sector times:

(https://i.imgur.com/vLZMtlN.png)

Reverse gaps:

(https://i.imgur.com/YQqEdVd.png)

Top 12 chart:

(https://i.imgur.com/f00Uwj7.png)

Some quick, far from exhaustive comments:


For the full data, see the attached workbook.



Title: Re: ZCT258 - A blast from the past
Post by: Daniel3D on March 12, 2023, 12:56:54 PM
Thanks for the data.