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ZakStunts - the Competition => General Chat - ZSC => Topic started by: Argammon on April 01, 2002, 09:00:00 PM

Title: Damn it I found the trick!
Post by: Argammon on April 01, 2002, 09:00:00 PM
To late! to late!



I am 100% sure Bismarck used it but am not sure about Roy.

It does only work with the LM002 as far as I know ->it won't help me next month.



This is how I found it:

I drove the 1st part of the track like mad but never managed to go below 18.90 after trying about 50 times I realized it couldn't be driven faster...The average time I got was between 19.00 and 19.40

But then I got an idea and tried it out:

Best try after few minutes: 18.45 !!!

I couldn't believe it and drove on and at least kept the advantage I got over the remaining track without investing much time!



This is no joke and I guess I have to wait until next year to win the LM002 competition.The great improvement in my time has nothing to do with skills,it's the car    
Title: Damn it I found the trick!
Post by: Bonzai Joe on April 01, 2002, 09:00:00 PM
Must be something with the gears...
Title: Damn it I found the trick!
Post by: roywiegerinck on April 02, 2002, 06:00:00 AM
I think I didn't use it................
Title: Damn it I found the trick!
Post by: Bonzai Joe on April 02, 2002, 08:00:00 AM
But Bismarck used it?



There is also the graphics trick you know. But I never want to use it, since it is important for me to drive in beautiful surroundings  
Title: Damn it I found the trick!
Post by: DukeBismarck on April 02, 2002, 05:00:00 PM
First i can promise you, that i haven't heard of that trick before.

So i tested it and this is my result: I was not able to beat my first checkpoint time of 02625 at the first bridge with that trick ( by the way i was also not able to beat it without the trick), but it was easier to get closer to the time with the trick, but i wont use it, because in my opinion the car is not fine enough steerable and i can't drive as fast through the corners as without the trick.
Title: Damn it I found the trick!
Post by: Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister on April 02, 2002, 07:00:00 PM
We don't know if we used the trick... That's beatiful... Is it really a trick?

Argammon, did I use it? I don't think...
Title: Damn it I found the trick!
Post by: zaqrack on April 02, 2002, 07:00:00 PM
I could tell you that the timer-routine is buggy from it`s roots in stunts, just as the collision-routine, this is how you can reach sometimes such times you can`t repeat, and that they seem more faster.



Proof? Get an XT or an AT and run Stunts on that machine (it`ll run on an XT with 1meg ram too). Try to achieve such times you get on your other comp. You won`t succeed.

There is only a very little difference from 486`s up to Pentium IV-s, but it`s bigger on slower computers.

So if there is such a BIG bug in the timer, then it`s sure there are some little ones too.



I`m not 100% sure about this, We`ve made such experiments 4 or 5 years ago with my friend, but we guessed that our theory is right.
Title: Damn it I found the trick!
Post by: Argammon on April 03, 2002, 07:00:00 AM
Ok,if you don't disallow it I will use it this month to check if it is really a trick or not.

In the meanwhile I will send a short replay out containing the beginning of the last track which is considerably faster than Bismarcks beginning.And he had the best......

Title: Damn it I found the trick!
Post by: Bonzai Joe on April 03, 2002, 08:00:00 AM
I just thought I'd tell you that I drove 18.80 the first time I turned simulation speed to slow, so there's no doubt that it does improve your time. But I think it's difficult to drive that way, so I don't think I'll use it. But maybe if you use replay handling very much, you can get a good replay out of it.....