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#31
Quote from: HerrNove on August 27, 2025, 12:15:04 AMHi dreadnaut, I am a little confused by the "Submit time" screen after the update. It seems that the "Corrected time" row does not display the centiseconds of the raw time correctly (it shows 1:13:00 instead of 1:13:95).

Curiously, the confirmation screen after submitting the time shows the centiseconds correctly.

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Because it shows for some reason one of the SQL rounded cell time format, not the real one.

Here's what's happening — and how to fix it.

What's the bug?

On the Submit time page, the "Corrected time" line prints the raw time with a formatter that drops centiseconds, while the corrected time on the right uses a centisecond-aware formatter.
Result: you see 1:13:00 – 10% = 1:06.55 even though the raw time is 1:13.95.
The confirmation screen uses the centisecond formatter consistently, so it looks correct there.

Why it happens

Somewhere in the template/back-end that builds the string

{raw} - {bonus}% = {corrected}


the left token uses a "mm:ss" formatter (seconds precision), while the right token uses "mm:ss.cc" (centiseconds). The math is fine; it's a display mismatch.

The fix

Use one centisecond formatter for every time you display (raw and corrected), on both pages.

Example (PHP)
function format_time_cs(int $centis): string {
    $min  = intdiv($centis, 6000);
    $sec  = intdiv($centis % 6000, 100);
    $csec = $centis % 100;
    return sprintf('%d:%02d.%02d', $min, $sec, $csec);
}

// Build the "Corrected time" row
$raw_cs       = $time_centiseconds;              // e.g., 4395 for 1:13.95
$bonus_pct    = 10;
$corrected_cs = intdiv($raw_cs * (100 - $bonus_pct), 100); // truncate, don't round

$line = sprintf(
    '%s - %d%% = %s',
    format_time_cs($raw_cs),
    $bonus_pct,
    format_time_cs($corrected_cs)
);

Example (JS, if the page formats client-side)
function formatTimeCs(totalCs){
  const m = Math.floor(totalCs / 6000);
  const s = Math.floor((totalCs % 6000) / 100);
  const c = totalCs % 100;
  return `${m}:${String(s).padStart(2,'0')}.${String(c).padStart(2,'0')}`;
}

// corrected = truncate to centiseconds
const correctedCs = Math.floor(rawCs * (100 - bonusPct) / 100);

const line = `${formatTimeCs(rawCs)} - ${bonusPct}% = ${formatTimeCs(correctedCs)}`;

Also worth standardizing

Use mm:ss.cc (dot before centiseconds) everywhere for clarity.

Add a quick unit test for edge cases (e.g., 0:59.99 with 10%, 1:00.00, etc.) to ensure truncation, not rounding.

Once the submit page calls the same format_time_cs for both sides, the display will read:

1:13.95 – 10% = 1:06.55


which will match the confirmation screen.
#32
Competition 2025 / Re: ZCT290 - Abandoned Mine
August 27, 2025, 10:18:30 AM
Quote from: HerrNove on August 27, 2025, 03:18:47 AMA small preview of my nightly hacking efforts. Enjoy this high-altitude postcard from the abandoned mine!

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Round, perfectly drawn and fine boobs. Let's call this part of the track "the titty twister"
#33
Live Races / Re: September Live race (Online)
August 27, 2025, 10:05:44 AM
It's not working properly on my end. It's working in slow motion. Thank you for the effort.

I have a simpler solution! Download the .trk (qr coded with buildings on the terrain for each pipsqueak) from a PHP website, upload the replay on the website before a countdown ends. The times are automatically updated on a result page. What do you think of that?

I am not available in september for a live event. But I'll manage a live race project proof of concept aiming for the upcoming Stunts UNiversal Timezone Series during the holidays in october! from the 18th of october to the 3rd of november. This is a community project any Stunts pipsqueak interested at can take part, see the existing topic on France Stunts subforum.

https://youtu.be/QKI2mqj_tIU
#34
Quote from: dreadnaut on August 27, 2025, 03:29:14 AM
Quote from: Alain il professore on August 27, 2025, 01:28:44 AMInterpretation with respect to the "two groups" hypothesis.
The data do not support a strict partition of drivers into two non-overlapping groups (PG-dominant vs non-PG-dominant). Instead, the evidence is best described as:
- A stable top tier of drivers who adapt their car choices to tracks and can win in both categories; and
- A track-driven effect such that some seasons or clusters of races favor PG cars (higher PG percentage) while others favor non-PG cars.

Thank you Alain, happy to see you agree with my understanding of the situation.

A good example of a strong pipsqueak who can drive PG and non-PG is indeed @Argammon, since you mention him, who after his return has reached the podium in all races, 12 times with a powergear car, and 13 with other cars. He's as strong a driver as I've seen.

But you seem bent on some kind of vendetta here, which you cannot hide behind extra-wordy, automatically generated copy. It's shameful and childish that you have not acknowledged his apology, and that you bring the bitterness out on the forum.

I have overseen a decade of this community working together and supporting each other, and if your approach is to dissimulate and divide and attack, you are not welcome — on the forum, the shoutbox, and other community groups.

If you enjoy racing with us, the competitions are here. Other amateur agreeing, I am happy to move you to the Amateur League in ZakStunts, where you will be able to race with different goals.


Regarding the original matter of this thread. Let me summarise the situation:

- ZakStunts is the freestyle competition, and includes shortcuts and powergear
- It does its thing, it tries not to overlap nor compete with other competitions
- The Amateur League exists for those who prefer a less technical challenge
- We will discuss rule tweaks in the regular thread that will appear in the next week
- Nothing's on fire, the world's not ending, the gods died long ago


And finally, the continuous rambling and complaining and attacking in every possible thread must stop. You can "disagree and commit", and work to really help the community (e.g., organising awesome events!), or find something else to do with your life, elsewhere.


Happy you got your answer!

I'm just spotting patterns and drinking detox bio tea. I know Stunts history will take account of the higher than normal irregular number of PG tracks in 2008, 2023 and 2025. Hopefully I'm not writing for your eyes only, that I hope I respecfully aknowledged with some lights, but also for the records.
#35
Oh, one more thing.

I found the bottom of the PG iceberg: the definitive proof that excessive PG cars can break the meta.

The introduction of balanced bonuses for cars? 2008! Ok it was a testing year but look...

It was the worst season ever regarding the meta, period.

But I respect Ayrton as much as any other Zakstunts title winners in history!

Look at the carnage!

TrackWinnerCarPG?
ZCT080AyrtonPorsche March IndyYes
ZCT081AyrtonAcura NSXYes
ZCT082AyrtonFerrari 288 GTOYes
ZCT083AyrtonChevrolet Corvette ZR-1 (Vette)Yes
ZCT084AyrtonPorsche March IndyYes
ZCT085AyrtonLancia Delta IntegraleNo
ZCT086AyrtonAcura NSXYes
ZCT087AyrtonFerrari 288 GTOYes
ZCT088AyrtonLamborghini Countach (Lambo)No
ZCT089AyrtonChevrolet Corvette ZR-1 (Vette)Yes
ZCT090AyrtonFerrari 288 GTOYes

2008 recap

Wins: Ayrton 11/11 (clean sweep).

PG vs non-PG among winners: 9/11 PG (81.8%), 2/11 non-PG (18.2%).

Longest season streak: Ayrton 11 in a row (ZCT080→ZCT090). 1 more win in 2007 for a 12 in a row guinness book record.


#36
TrackWinnerCarPG?
ZCT258DuplodeLancia Delta IntegraleNo
ZCT259DuplodeCERV IIINo
ZCT260ArgammonFerrari 288 GTOYes
ZCT261ArgammonCorvette ZR-1 (Vette)Yes
ZCT262ArgammonMcLarenNo
ZCT263ArgammonAudiNo
ZCT264ArgammonFerrari 288 GTOYes
ZCT265DuplodePorsche March IndyYes
ZCT266DuplodeAcura NSXYes
ZCT267ArgammonPorsche March IndyYes
ZCT268ArgammonPanteraNo
ZCT269ArgammonChallengerNo

2023 recap

Wins: Argammon 8; Duplode 4.

Streaks: Argammon 5 in a row (ZCT260→ZCT264), then 3 in a row (ZCT267→ZCT269).

PG vs non-PG (winners): 6/12 PG (50%); 6/12 non-PG (50%).

Per driver (PG wins): Argammon 4/8; Duplode 2/4.

TrackWinnerCarPG?
ZCT270Alan RotoiJaguar XJR-9No
ZCT271DuplodePorsche 962 IMSA (P962)No
ZCT272DuplodeLancia StratosNo
ZCT273ArgammonLamborghini LM002No
ZCT274DuplodeFerrari F40No
ZCT275DuplodeZR1-GT3No
ZCT276DuplodePorsche Carrera 4 (Carrera)No
ZCT277Alan RotoiPorsche March IndyYes
ZCT278DuplodeLolaNo
ZCT279DuplodeLancia Delta IntegraleNo
ZCT280ArgammonPorsche March IndyYes
ZCT281DuplodeJaguar XJR-9No

2024 recap

Wins: Duplode 8; Alan Rotoi 2; Argammon 2.

Streaks: Duplode max streak 3 (ZCT274–ZCT276).

PG vs non-PG (winners): 2/12 PG (16.7%) — ZCT277 (Indy), ZCT280 (Indy); 10/12 non-PG (83.3%).

Per driver (PG wins): Duplode 0/8; Alan Rotoi 1/2; Argammon 1/2.


TrackWinnerCarPG?
ZCT282Alan RotoiAcura NSXYes
ZCT283ArgammonLamborghini Diablo VTNo
ZCT284ArgammonCorvette ZR-1 (Vette)Yes
ZCT285ArgammonFerrari 288 GTOYes
ZCT286ArgammonChevrolet CamaroNo
ZCT287ArgammonAcura NSXYes
ZCT288ArgammonPeugeot OxiaNo
ZCT289ArgammonCorvette ZR-1 (Vette)Yes

2025 recap

Wins: Argammon 7; Alan Rotoi 1.

Streaks: Argammon 7 in a row (ZCT283→ZCT289).

PG vs non-PG (winners, this year): 5/8 PG (62.5%) — ZCT282, 284, 285, 287, 289.


DriverTotal winsPG winsPG win %
Duplode27725.9%
Argammon17952.9%
Alan Rotoi16743.8%
CTG5240.0%
dreadnaut11100.0%
Seeker1982100.0%
FinRok100.0%
Overall (all winners)682638.2%


Conclusion (2012–2025)


Key aggregate result.
Across 2012–2025 (all ZCT races we compiled for those seasons), winners used a PowerGear (PG) car — defined here as Acura NSX, Ferrari 288 GTO, Porsche March Indy, Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 — in 50 of 164 races, i.e. ≈ 30.5% of wins. The remainder (≈ 69.5%) were won with non-PG cars.

Year-to-year variability.
The PG share fluctuates substantially by season (PG wins / races that year):

2012: 25.0%

2013: 16.7%

2014: 33.3%

2015: 25.0%

2016: 25.0%

2017: 25.0%

2018: 16.7%

2019: 33.3%

2020: 33.3%

2021: 41.7%

2022: 33.3%

2023: 50.0%

2024: 16.7%

2025: 62.5% (note: shorter season sample in 2025)

These swings show that calendar composition and track selection (which tracks appear in which season) strongly affect the PG / non-PG balance.

Interpretation with respect to the "two groups" hypothesis.
The data do not support a strict partition of drivers into two non-overlapping groups (PG-dominant vs non-PG-dominant). Instead, the evidence is best described as:

A stable top tier of drivers who adapt their car choices to tracks and can win in both categories; and

A track-driven effect such that some seasons or clusters of races favor PG cars (higher PG percentage) while others favor non-PG cars.

Afterword from "Il Professore", my insight for the community:

First and foremost, there is nothing to compare in 2023 and 2025 with the famous titles of Ayrton in 2005 or Renato biker titles in 2006, 2010 and 2013, they didn't benefit of so many PG tracks while honing their wins on mostly skilled driving on non PG cars.

Second, this season, there should not be a single other PG track. We already got too much!

Third, if in effect the season winner takes all the last non PG tracks, so be it my friends, the wrong can't be righted this year, its far too late, the winner of 2023 (50% PG tracks) has been favored also in 25 (62.5% PG tracks), with an improbably high set of PG designed tracks that suited best his talent. In the future, with an enlightened supervision and inclusive leadership, the number of PG tracks should be monitored closely a year ahead aiming to historical average of 30% PG tracks, to prevent another PG track discrepancy season.


Bonus tables from the golden generation of Stunts in 2005, a perfectly balanced competition, with a different winner almost every month, which is long gone but never forgotten!


TrackWinnerCarPG?
ZCT047Alan RotoiFerrariYes
ZCT048CTGJaguarNo
ZCT049CTGPorsche Carrera (Carrera)No
ZCT050AlainMelangeNo
ZCT051GutixAudiNo
ZCT052AyrtonLamborghini (Lambo)No
ZCT053Akoss PooPorsche March Indy (Indy)Yes
ZCT054AyrtonLamborghini LM002 (LM002)No
ZCT055Bonzai JoeAcura NSX (Acura)Yes
ZCT056AyrtonPorsche 962 IMSA (P962)No
ZCT057ChulkChevrolet Corvette ZR-1 (Vette)Yes
ZCT058AyrtonLanciaNo

Recap for 2005 (numbers & brief observations)

Total races: 12 (ZCT047–ZCT058).

Wins by driver: Ayrton 4; CTG 2; Alan Rotoi 1; Alain 1; Gutix 1; Akoss Poo 1; Bonzai Joe 1; Chulk 1.

PG (the four PG car types: Acura NSX, Ferrari GTO/288 GTO, Porsche March Indy, Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1) — wins: 4 / 12 = 33.3%.

PG-winning races: ZCT047 (Ferrari), ZCT053 (Indy), ZCT055 (Acura), ZCT057 (Vette).

Per-driver PG-win rates (2005):

Ayrton: 0 / 4 = 0% PG wins.

CTG: 0 / 2 = 0% PG wins.

Alan Rotoi: 1 / 1 = 100% (Ferrari).

Akoss Poo: 1 / 1 = 100% (Indy).

Bonzai Joe: 1 / 1 = 100% (Acura).

Chulk: 1 / 1 = 100% (Vette).

Alain, Gutix: 0% (their single wins were non-PG).

Thank you for taking some time reading, reflecting and, finally, creating a better Zakstunts competition!
#37
Quote from: dreadnaut on August 26, 2025, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: alanrotoi on August 26, 2025, 11:05:45 AMI'm surprised that people keeps replying without noticing it's all about trolling.

I prefer to assume good intentions, but a different frame of mind. On the other hand, I do need an answer to this, @Alain, because for me it's a fundamental point:

QuoteYou could argue for "a distortion" only if there were two different sets of drivers: those who win/podium all the PG races, and those who win/podium only the "rare" non-PG races.

Look at the past five years: can you find significant evidence of these two groups?

TrackWinnerCarPG?
ZCT126DuplodeLamborghini (Lambo)No
ZCT127DuplodeFerrari F40No
ZCT128DuplodeFerrari (288 GTO)Yes
ZCT129GutixJaguar XJR-9 (Jaguar)No
ZCT130GutixLotus Esprit (Lotus)No
ZCT131Renato BikerKartNo
ZCT132Renato BikerPorsche Carrera 4 (Carrera)No
ZCT133Renato BikerLanciaNo
ZCT134Renato BikerPorsche 962 IMSA (P962)No
ZCT135DuplodePorsche March Indy (Indy)Yes
ZCT136SuperBrian / Duplode (tie)Acura (Acura NSX)Yes
ZCT137FrikerNissan Skyline (Skyline)No

2012 recap

Total winners (counting the tie at ZCT136 for both pilots): Duplode 5; Renato Biker 4; Gutix 2; SuperBrian 1; Friker 1.

Longest streaks: Duplode 3 in a row (ZCT126–ZCT128); Renato Biker 4 in a row (ZCT131–ZCT134); Gutix 2 in a row (ZCT129–ZCT130).

PG vs non-PG (by race): 3 / 12 races were won with a PG car (25.0%) — ZCT128 (Ferrari), ZCT135 (Indy), ZCT136 (Acura).


TrackWinnerCarPG?
ZCT138CTGCorvette ZR-1 (Vette)Yes
ZCT139Renato BikerAudi Quattro (Audi)No
ZCT140Renato BikerLamborghini LM002 (LM002)No
ZCT141Renato BikerMcLarenNo
ZCT142CTGLotusNo
ZCT143Renato BikerFerrari F40 (F40)No
ZCT144DuplodeFerrari 288 GTOYes
ZCT145CTGZR1-GT3No
ZCT146CTGPorsche Carrera 4 (Carrera)No
ZCT147CTGMelangeNo
ZCT148Renato BikerJaguar XJR-9 (Jaguar)No
ZCT149Renato BikerPorsche 962 IMSA (P962)No

2013 recap
• Wins: Renato Biker 6; CTG 5; Duplode 1.
• Streaks: Renato Biker three in a row (ZCT139–141); CTG three in a row (ZCT145–147); Renato Biker two in a row (ZCT148–149).
• PG vs non-PG (winners): 2/12 PG wins (16.7%) — ZCT138 (Vette), ZCT144 (Ferrari 288 GTO). All other wins were in non-PG cars.


TrackWinnerCarPG?
ZCT150Renato BikerLancia Delta IntegraleNo
ZCT151Renato BikerPorsche March IndyYes
ZCT152DuplodeLamborghini Countach (Lambo)No
ZCT153Renato BikerAcura NSXYes
ZCT154Akoss PooLamborghini LM002No
ZCT155Akoss PooAudi QuattroNo
ZCT156DuplodeChevrolet Corvette ZR-1 (Vette)Yes
ZCT157DuplodeLotus EspritNo
ZCT158DuplodeFerrari 288 GTO (Ferrari)Yes
ZCT159Akoss PooFerrari F40 (F40)No
ZCT160Akoss PooMelange XGT-88 (Melange)No
ZCT161Akoss PooJaguar XJR-9 (Jaguar)No

2014 recap
• Total wins: Akoss Poo 5; Duplode 4; Renato Biker 3.

• Streaks: Duplode 3 in a row (ZCT156–158); Akoss Poo 3 in a row to close the year (ZCT159–161) and a 2-race streak earlier (ZCT154–155).

• PG vs non-PG among winners: 4 / 12 PG wins (33.3%) — ZCT151 (Indy), ZCT153 (NSX), ZCT156 (Vette), ZCT158 (Ferrari) — 8 / 12 non-PG (66.7%).


TrackWinnerCarPG?
ZCT162DuplodePorsche Carrera 4 (Carrera)No
ZCT163Akoss PooPorsche 962 IMSA (P962)No
ZCT164Akoss PooAcura NSXYes
ZCT165Akoss PooGate (custom)No
ZCT166DuplodePorsche March IndyYes
ZCT167DuplodeLancia Delta IntegraleNo
ZCT168Duplode & Akoss Poo (tie)Lamborghini Countach (Lambo)No
ZCT169Akoss PooLamborghini LM002No
ZCT170DuplodeJaguar XJR-9 (Jaguar)No
ZCT171DuplodeFerrari 288 GTOYes
ZCT172DuplodeMelange XGT-88 (Melange)No
ZCT173DuplodeAudi Quattro (Audi)No

2015 recap
Total wins (counting the ZCT168 tie for both): Duplode 8; Akoss Poo 5.
Streaks: Duplode's longest streak = 4 (ZCT170–ZCT173). Akoss Poo's longest streak = 3 (ZCT163–ZCT165). The ZCT168 tie counts as a win for both.
PG vs non-PG (by races won): 3/12 PG (25.0%) — ZCT164 (NSX), ZCT166 (Indy), ZCT171 (Ferrari GTO); 9/12 non-PG (75.0%).
Per driver, PG share: Duplode 2/8 = 25.0%; Akoss Poo 1/5 = 20.0%.


TrackWinnerCarPG?
ZCT174Renato BikerFerrari F40 (F40)No
ZCT175Renato BikerPorsche 911 TurboNo
ZCT176Renato BikerPorsche March IndyYes
ZCT177Renato BikerChevrolet Corvette ZR-1 (Vette)Yes
ZCT178DuplodeAcura NSXYes
ZCT179Renato BikerPorsche Carrera 4 (Carrera)No
ZCT180Renato BikerPorsche 962 IMSA (P962)No
ZCT181DuplodeLamborghini LM002No
ZCT182MarcoLotus Esprit (Lotus)No
ZCT183MarcoLancia Delta IntegraleNo
ZCT184MarcoJaguar XJR-9 (Jaguar)No
ZCT185MarcoNissan Skyline (Skyline)No

2016 recap

Total wins: Renato Biker 6; Marco 4; Duplode 2.


Streaks: Renato Biker opened with four straight (ZCT174–ZCT177) and later added two (ZCT179–ZCT180); Marco closed with four straight (ZCT182–ZCT185).


PG vs. non-PG among winners: 3 / 12 PG wins (25.0%) — ZCT176 (Porsche March Indy), ZCT177 (Corvette ZR-1), ZCT178 (Acura NSX); 9 / 12 non-PG wins (75.0%).

TrackWinnerCarPG?
ZCT186FinRokMelangeNo
ZCT187MarcoLamborghini Countach (Lambo)No
ZCT188FinRokFerrari 288 GTOYes
ZCT189FinRokPorsche 962 IMSA (P962)No
ZCT190DuplodeAudi QuattroNo
ZCT191DuplodePorsche 911 TurboNo
ZCT192MarcoFerrari F40No
ZCT193FinRokPorsche Carrera 4No
ZCT194dreadnautPorsche March IndyYes
ZCT195FinRokAcura NSXYes
ZCT196FinRokLamborghini LM002No
ZCT197DuplodeJaguar XJR-9No

2017 recap

Wins: FinRok 6; Duplode 3; Marco 2; dreadnaut 1.

Streaks: FinRok twice with 2-in-a-row (ZCT188–189, ZCT195–196); Duplode 2-in-a-row (ZCT190–191).

PG vs non-PG (winners): 3/12 PG wins (25.0%) — ZCT188 (Ferrari 288 GTO), ZCT194 (Indy), ZCT195 (Acura NSX); 9/12 non-PG wins (75.0%).

TrackWinnerCarPG?
ZCT198DuplodeMcLarenNo
ZCT199DuplodeLancia Delta IntegraleNo
ZCT200CTGMelangeNo
ZCT201FinRokNissan Skyline (R32)No
ZCT202Alan RotoiLamborghini Countach (Lambo)No
ZCT203DuplodeAcura NSXYes
ZCT204DuplodePorsche 962 IMSA (P962)No
ZCT205CTGAudi Quattro (Audi)No
ZCT206DuplodeFerrari 288 GTOYes
ZCT207CTGFerrari F40 (F40)No
ZCT208CTGLamborghini LM002 (LM002)No
ZCT209FinRokJaguar XJR-9 (Jaguar)No

2018 recap
• Wins: Duplode 5; CTG 4; FinRok 2; Alan Rotoi 1.
• Longest streaks: 2 in a row (Duplode twice: ZCT198–199 and ZCT203–204; CTG once: ZCT207–208).
• PG vs non-PG (winners): 2/12 PG wins (16.7%) — ZCT203 (Acura NSX) and ZCT206 (Ferrari 288 GTO); 10/12 non-PG wins (83.3%).
• Per-driver PG share (2018): Duplode 2/5 (40%); CTG 0/4; FinRok 0/2; Alan Rotoi 0/1.


TrackWinnerCarPG?
ZCT210dreadnautPorsche March IndyYes
ZCT211MarcoRangerNo
ZCT212FinRokPorsche Carrera 4No
ZCT213FinRokKartNo
ZCT214FinRokChevrolet Corvette ZR-1Yes
ZCT215OverdrijfAudi DTMNo
ZCT216MarcoPorsche 962 IMSA (P962)No
ZCT217DuplodeAudi QuattroNo
ZCT218MarcoAcura NSXYes
ZCT219Alan RotoiPorsche March IndyYes
ZCT220CTGKartNo
ZCT221FinRokRangerNo

2019 recap
• Wins: FinRok 4; Marco 3; Duplode 1; Overdrijf 1; Alan Rotoi 1; CTG 1; dreadnaut 1.
• Streaks: FinRok won three in a row (ZCT212–ZCT214).
• PG vs non-PG (winners): 4/12 PG (33.3%) — ZCT210 (Indy), ZCT214 (ZR-1), ZCT218 (NSX), ZCT219 (Indy); 8/12 non-PG (66.7%).

TrackWinnerCarPG?
ZCT222DuplodeLamborghini (Lambo)No
ZCT223DuplodePorsche March IndyYes
ZCT224DuplodeAudi DTMNo
ZCT225Seeker1982Lamborghini LM002No
ZCT226DuplodeFerrari F40No
ZCT227CTGAcura NSXYes
ZCT228DuplodeToyota TruenoNo
ZCT229FinRokLancia Delta IntegraleNo
ZCT230DuplodeChevrolet Corvette ZR-1Yes
ZCT231CTGPorsche 962 IMSA (P962)No
ZCT232CTGPorsche March IndyYes
ZCT233DuplodePorsche Carrera 4No

2020 recap

Total wins: Duplode 7; CTG 3; Seeker1982 1; FinRok 1.

Streaks: Duplode 3 in a row (ZCT222–ZCT224); CTG 2 in a row (ZCT231–ZCT232).

PG vs non-PG (race winners): 4/12 PG (33.3%); 8/12 non-PG (66.7%).



TrackWinnerCarPG?
ZCT234DuplodeJaguarNo
ZCT235CTGLotusNo
ZCT236CTGMelangeNo
ZCT237DuplodeVette (Corvette ZR-1)Yes
ZCT238Alan RotoiLamboNo
ZCT239Alan RotoiBMW DTMNo
ZCT240Alan RotoiFerrari (GTO)Yes
ZCT241Alan RotoiIndy (Porsche March Indy)Yes
ZCT242Alan RotoiAcura (NSX)Yes
ZCT243DuplodeAudiNo
ZCT244DuplodeVette (Corvette ZR-1)Yes
ZCT245Alan RotoiLM002No

2021 recap

Total wins: Alan Rotoi 6; Duplode 4; CTG 2.

Streaks: Alan Rotoi five in a row (ZCT238–ZCT242). CTG two in a row (ZCT235–ZCT236). Duplode two in a row (ZCT243–ZCT244).

PG vs non-PG (winners): 5/12 PG (41.7%); 7/12 non-PG (58.3%).



TrackWinnerCarPG?
ZCT246Alan RotoiLancia Delta IntegraleNo
ZCT247Alan RotoiPorsche Carrera 4 (Carrera)No
ZCT248Alan RotoiCaterhamNo
ZCT249DuplodePorsche 962 IMSA (P962)No
ZCT250Alan RotoiCERV IIINo
ZCT251dreadnautFerrari 288 GTOYes
ZCT252DuplodeAcura NSXYes
ZCT253Alan RotoiChevrolet Corvette ZR-1 (Vette)Yes
ZCT254Alan RotoiJaguar XJR-9 (Jaguar)No
ZCT255DuplodeAudi Quattro (Audi)No
ZCT256Alan RotoiPorsche March IndyYes
ZCT257DuplodeLamborghini Countach (Lambo)No

2022 recap

Wins: Alan Rotoi 7; Duplode 4; dreadnaut 1.

Streaks: Alan Rotoi 3 in a row (ZCT246–ZCT248) and 2 in a row (ZCT253–ZCT254).

PG vs non-PG (winners): 4/12 PG (33.3%) — ZCT251 (Ferrari GTO), ZCT252 (Acura NSX), ZCT253 (Corvette ZR-1), ZCT256 (Porsche March Indy) — 8/12 non-PG (66.7%).

end of first part... follow on the next posts my friends!
#38
Hello everyone,

TL;DR: I'm drafting here an idea I'm maturing as a one man band, but aimed towards a community project: The Stunts live race world cup.

1. Goals

Ensure fair competition regardless of available training time.

Highlight the "live" spirit of Stunts: precision, quick strategy, pressure management.

Create a global format bringing together players from multiple time zones.

2. Competition Structure
Phase 1: Conference Qualifiers

Conferences:

🌎 The Americas

🌍 The Old Continent (Europe, Africa)

🌏 Oceania / Asia-Pacific

Each conference hosts one live race on the same track, but scheduled for local convenience.

Top 3 from each conference advance to the Grand Final.

Phase 2: Grand Universal Final

The 9 qualified drivers face off live on a brand-new track.

Results → determine the Top 3 of the Universe.

3. Race Formats possibilities

a) Live Classic Race

Track remains undisclosed until the start.

Duration: 12 minutes (max 15 for exceptional tracks).

Goal: as many laps as possible → best lap time counts.

b) Live Rally / Endurance

Track is revealed 7 days in advance.

Single lap, lasting 6–9 minutes.

Live duration: up to 15 minutes (1–2 attempts).

4. Practical Organization

Sign-up: each player registers in one conference (based on time zone or availability).

Track distribution: each pipsqueak receives a unique QR code (drawn with map buildings) to prevent file sharing.

Timer:

A countdown starts automatically upon download.

Replay (RPL) must be submitted before the countdown expires (12 or 15 minutes).

Referees: each conference must have at least 2 referees (one main + one backup).

5. Scoring

Ranking is based on best lap time.

In case of a tie → 2nd-best lap decides.

Suggested scoring per conference:

1st = 10 pts

2nd = 6 pts

3rd = 4 pts

4th+ = listed in the results but no points.

The Final is decided only by performance (no point carry-over).

6. Fair Play & Ethics

🚫 No secret training or early access to the track file.

Replay Handling (RH) allowed / GAR non directive trust based rule.

✅ Drivers may share emotions and impressions live (chat, stream), but no exact lines or tricks during the race.

7. Communication & Broadcasting

Each conference may organize its live session on YouTube or Twitch.

All RPL files will be archived and published on the official page.

A highlight video of the three conferences and the final will be produced.

I'll share a link to measure the volunteering level. Every answer could help taste the water on the topic.
#39
Competition 2025 / Re: ZCT290 - Abandoned Mine
August 26, 2025, 12:05:30 PM
You are mostly right. Time is key. There is probably no talent in genius. I'm curious about how much time is needed for a genius (talking about 2000+ Folyami Stunts driver) to drive a winning lap.
#40
Thank you for taking part, there's still 5 days and 12 hours left! OWOOT rules, no RH please.

Monthly trophies still to grab:

🏆 🔮 Faster than Stunts Oracle!

🏆 ⚡ Faster than yourself (like Muhammad Ali)

🏆 🛠� The Grinder

🏆 💪 The Super Grinder

🏆 ♾️⚡ Faster than yourself — Permanently (Community)

Congratulations to @Victor Narl for being the first to unlock them all!

Competition will stop on Sunday evening (no quiet replays), and a new track will be released:

FSC2 - MARRAKECH - september 2025

Let's go deeper in this Morocco tour, next to the Atlas mountains.
#41
Competition 2025 / Re: ZCT290 - Abandoned Mine
August 26, 2025, 11:22:34 AM
Quote from: alanrotoi on August 26, 2025, 10:38:50 AMI hope you'll enjoy the track! The track was designed to avoid a PG surprise. Let's see if I succeeded. The objective is to have a fight between different ways of racing. For example, P962, Lancia and Carrera, you'll need sometimes different tricks and strategies to "solve" this track.

All past tracks were designed, meant and verified to avoid a PG surprise anyway. It's not about the track design it's about the PG cars. They are the unbeatable flaws of the game. Everybody know the PG bug is not a bug but a feature. They represent an existential horror for skilled drivers.

I even bet a bite on my pipe that a PG car, used by an oligarchy of pipsqueaks, will win ZCT290 by a huge gap!

Let's listen @LeoRamone explain anti PG track design, he knows his job, he found the algorithm for an anti PG track, which stand in three simple words: declivity, dihydrogen and d-fence.

  • No inclines,
  • split the map in half with a water lane
  • and then place the building stops.


But it's not about designing anti PG tracks to make a perfect competition, PG cars also need to shine sometimes.

The flaw of this bonus system including PG cars is that people think PG cars can compete on equal foot with non PG cars. It's never the case, and the distorted gaps will always happen, with two different races on the same track where not everybody stand the same chance!
#42
Quote from: dreadnaut on August 25, 2025, 03:49:34 PM@Alain, if you agree with me then you misunderstood my message 😅 My point is that the same people win PG and non-PG races. Removing PG from the equation doesn't change the result: they win because, at that moment in time, they are the most dedicated pipsqueaks.

You could argue for "a distortion" only if there were two different sets of drivers: those who win/podium all the PG races, and those who win/podium only the "rare" non-PG races.

Look at the past five years: can you find significant evidence of these two groups?

If someone consistently ranks in the middle of the scoreboard (✋), claiming "oh, I would have won this race if it weren't for powergear" would be disingenous.

A far less dedicated pipsqueak who ranks consistently in the middle of the scoreboard could redo the lap of this month winner with no dedication.

@KyLiE is the only pipsqueak that could help us with hints on what you want to know, he is the only one who saw how to do it, and drove for a ZCT289 podium.

I don't mean to be rude to any pilot in particular, that's not my point. I'm pointing the precise flaws in the meta. And this meta is so broken it can even favor the same entire team!

I'd love to know how much total time you invested @KyLiE once you had the informations needed to imitate the PG lap. Real question btw, it would help us grasp how much of a dedicated pipsqueak you are and if for real, the most invested pipsqueaks win the race at Zakstunts 25. Again, no value judgement, just investigation. "Non hypotheses fingo!" as would say Newton (the alchemist) I don't push my imagination, I don't work on baseless facts!

Thank you for your time reading me, I hope it was enjoyable and easy to read ❤️�🔥
#43
Quote from: dreadnaut on August 25, 2025, 03:06:44 PM
Quote from: Alain il professore on August 25, 2025, 02:43:46 PMNow in 2025 it's 6 months on PG and 3% of pipsqueaks using it take all the wins.

That is an understatement: those few are winning all races, with or without powergear! Maybe they are better drivers, or maybe they dedicate a lot of time optimising their ZakStunts laps. The two things often overlap.

Why are other folks not winning the non-powergear races? How does removing powergear from the equation solve that problem?

I agree. The point is not only how many time they win, but how close or distorted are the results. With PG it's not even close, without PG it's close and fair. Unless there were more races to judge from, it could be more conclusive, but there were only three non PG races with a majority of close results in 2025. The six other tracks were PG with a unanimously distorted gap.

Have a nice day on the tracks!
#44
Quote from: alanrotoi on August 25, 2025, 02:45:33 PM
Quote from: Victor Narl on August 25, 2025, 12:52:22 PM
QuoteI hear the "continuous powergear suprises are not a surprise" point.

Just so I understand, what's preventing folks from sending powergear replays?

- don't search for a powergear route?
- can't find a powergear route?
- don't enjoy driving powergear?
- feel less competitive with powergear cars?
- don't have time for powergear laps?
- powergear is wrong™
it's not about the fact of PG presence, but that PG is unacceptable for racing because of the grass braking bug
I think it's acceptable to drive on grass in free, but in general, the grass shouldn't prevail over the track, otherwise the idea of the game originally conceived by the authors is lost. this is no longer Stunts where 80-90% of obstacles will be cut by a merciless grass bug, many newbies seeing such replays will not register and participate

It's not about the car it's about track building criteria. We had a season 2023 with many of us trying to prevent PG with flooded tracks. It was quiet boring and annoying and the objetive was failed. You can also check the ratings of the tracks and they were low.

If you want a non pg race sign for building a track and make it impossible for pg. Not an easy task even with flooded (boring most of them) tracks.

There might be a compromise beyond "impossible for PG". Ok, consensus is PG cars and non PG cars mix like vinegar and oil even if the track is meticuously prepared to impair PG dominance.

There's one idea to fit them all: separate PG competition and non PG competition by providing them in alternation. Let's respect historic PG/non PG car distribution: around 10-15% PG races every year.

Thank you for reading my post, I hope your day was perfect and you sent a lap at ZCT290.
#45
Quote from: dreadnaut on August 25, 2025, 01:50:25 PMThanks Victor, I think I understand your view on powergear as a bug, one that deviates too far from the idea of Stunts as a racing-on-a-track game.

Alain, apologies if my questions was mis-worded. What I want to ask is, to each participant, why do you not attempt or send a powergear lap? I need more information beyond "most people would..."


A thought: powergear is a tricky skill. I had to drive a powergear lap in my second race, and could only do so because of the folks in the shoutbox and forum guiding me — no team yet! Took me a long time to learn before I could get near a PG podium. Fast-forward to today, I think we have some nice resources like Overdrjft's videos, but nothing on powergear! Learning resources might be part of the steep obstacle 🤔


One point I should make clear now though: this is a useful discussion to drive the rules for next season, maybe coefficient changes (double bonus loss for PG podium positions?), anything to improve the balance, but powergear is a feature of ZakStunts, and it's here to stay.

(and I repeat, ZakStunts is not the whole Stunts world, there are other great competitions to enjoy without powergear)

I have a one word answer: "Ethos".

I quit competition in 2008 because of car bonuses. I didn't want to use PG, hiding my replays against the field, not taking part in the time attack battle because it would kill the spirit of our collaborative competition. I didn't want that format then, and will never use it in the future, defending high values, viewing competition as a collaborative exploration rather than a winner take all mindset. I want to be able to beat a PG car with a non PG car every month. And it's not, it will never be the case with this format.

For instance, https://imgur.com/ajg8k3L.png in 2003, I found all the PG shortcuts and shared them with my 5 team members. It was one of the few races with a power gear of the whole year and everyone in the scoreboard used it. It was fair competition. Now in 2025 it's 6 months on PG and 3% of pipsqueaks using it take all the wins.

The elephant in the room might not seem obvious for some, but I'm sure history will prove me right.