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#31

General Chat - ZSC / Re: Statistics!

Last post by alanrotoi - November 12, 2024, 08:49:20 PM

Statistics about frieshansen, spoonboy, zapper and mark nailwood, ZCT279 included:

• Overall points: Frieshansen 73, Spoonboy 69,  Nailwood 65, Zapper 63
• Leading hours: Frieshansen 549, Zapper 386, Nailwood 76, Spoonboy 8
• LTB points: Frieshansen: 2, Zapper 1, Nailwood 0, Spooboy 0
• Time traveled: Frieshansen 12:25.74, Spoonboy 12:33.01, Nailwood 12:44.12, Zapper 12:49.31

#32

Competition 2024 / Re: Cars and rules for 2025

Last post by Duplode - November 11, 2024, 10:31:38 PM

I feel the LTB system could be well worth looking into in this pre-season. Last year there were plenty of interesting ideas for reform (here is some of the discussion in the previous thread), but there was little time left in the cycle for them to mature and become actionable.

So, LTB... I should begin by noting that I'm probably not the best person to make the case for LTB reform, as I kind of made my peace with the current system during this season (maybe the hangover from ZCT266 has cleared ), and wouldn't really mind going into 2025 without major changes. Anyway, it's certainly an important topic which is well worth discussing now. We could perhaps begin by looking at possible motivations for changing LTB. Looking back at past discussions, I would highlight two issues that I've seen mentioned with some frequency:

• Most pipsqueaks never or only rarely partake in LTB fights.
• Intense LTB fights can be exhausting and time-consuming.

Do these cover the perceived issues well? Are there other aspects worth highlighting?

#33

General Chat - ZSC / Re: 25th anniversary celebrati...

Last post by alanrotoi - November 10, 2024, 11:09:42 PM

One special race with special balance sounds good!

For the start of the season I think it worths to send an email invitation to every email address of all stunts pipsqueak we can get.
I have a quiet long list already.
We could make a 1 time Stunts newsletter.

#34

Competition 2024 / Re: Tiebreakers redux

Last post by dreadnaut - November 10, 2024, 09:28:14 PM

However, given that the rule exists, I do not see a reason why it is not written down.

Yes, I plan to clarify that in the rules for 2025. I was also surprised, first by the limit (which I had forgotten) then by the fact that it was in the code, clearly defined, but not in the rules. Seems like we forgot to add it when the LTB calculations changed.

#35

Competition 2024 / Re: Tiebreakers redux

Last post by Argammon - November 10, 2024, 07:12:40 PM

I think the tie-break rules should work as described on the Zakstunts page, at least for this season. For the next season "SUM" is an alternative for the first tie breaker to award consistency/effort. However, I am also fine with having number of wins as the first tie breaker.

I would also suggest that the rules explicitly state that a pipsqueak cannot get more than two leading-time points. I wasn't aware of this last month and thought Alanrotoi should have gotten three points. However, Duplode and Alanrotoi reminded me of the fact there was a precedent, so it seems fine to only award Alanrotoi two points. However, given that the rule exists, I do not see a reason why it is not written down.

#36

Competition 2024 / Tiebreakers redux

Last post by Duplode - November 10, 2024, 06:26:25 PM

Given that it's quite possible that we'll see a draw (or even a few draws) somewhere on the season scoreboard, it makes sense to have a look at the issue of tiebreakers, in order to clear any lingering ambiguity.

The ZakStunts rules page says that "in case of a draw, the pipsqueak with the most victories / best positions / number of best positions is announced as the winner". That provision was added for the 2016 season, after we realised in the previous year that the rules were silent on tiebreakers. Sounds clear enough, right? However:

• Somehow, and in spite of being involved in the discussion about it back in 2015, I either forgot completely about the rule change, or was never aware that the text of the rules had actually changed to begin with! I suppose others among you might be similarly surprised about it.
• The season scoreboard page currently doesn't break ties using the number of wins and so forth.

The point of this post is just to put the matter up for consideration. For this season at least, I won't push for any particular way of breaking, or not breaking, ties. I can't do that with a straight face given that I was confidently misquoting the rules as late as yesterday 

#37

World Stunts Meeting 2004 / Re: World Stunts Meeting 2004

Last post by Cas - November 10, 2024, 06:07:49 PM

I arrived about 20 years late, but I'm here   If any Hungarian is around, I'll be in Budapest for a couple more days. I'm leaving on the 13th. I know it's not much time to plan anything, but if it possible, let me know!

#38

Chat - Misc / Re: Association game

Last post by Cas - November 10, 2024, 06:03:28 PM

IMF (International Monetary Fund)

#39

Chat - Misc / Re: Association game

Last post by Shoegazing Leo - November 10, 2024, 02:38:22 PM

EMF

#40

General Chat - ZSC / Re: 25th anniversary celebrati...

Last post by Shoegazing Leo - November 10, 2024, 02:36:56 PM

An idea:
The tracks:
- Part some of more unforgettable
- Part some of most famous pipsqueaks
- Part some of concept tracks or collective tracks