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#41

General Chat - ZSC / Re: ZakStunts pipsqueaks Tier ...

Last post by Argammon - November 06, 2025, 06:00:24 PM

I should also explain a bit my impressions. Maybe I'll make alive stream about it if I have the time butblet's write some thoughts. (...)

Every tier has different levels inside, so a tier is mor like a wide row of similarities but not always means same performances.

- the "S" big 4: they are Ayrton and then the rest. Maybe Renato Biker is a bit over Gutix and Duplode but it's hard to analyze only watching their replays, you had to live the moment and I think I wasn't contemporary to Renato's prime for example so I can't be 100% sure about it. What I don't have doubt is that they are over the rest of us. (...)

And here I disagree, but I respect your opinion. I do not feel comfortable blowing my own trumpet, but let me explain why I disagree:

In the old days, I am clearly not on the top tier. (So I agree with CTG's ranking in that sense). However, also considering 2023-2025 I think that I am. I do not base my assessment "only" on the Folyami rankings which are at least somewhat objective, but also on replays.

Before 2023, most of my replays were rather mundane. I did not produce any lap on the level of the following examples (not exhaustive):

https://zak.stunts.hu/tracks/ZCT260 (An impossible trick)
https://zak.stunts.hu/tracks/ZCT264
https://zak.stunts.hu/tracks/ZCT280 (First flight of that type in competition)
https://zak.stunts.hu/tracks/ZCT284 (Flight is repeated showing it is not a fluke but a tool)
https://zak.stunts.hu/tracks/ZCT289

Yes, all of these examples are power-gear laps. But power gear is an important part of Zakstunts. 

#42

General Chat - ZSC / Re: ZakStunts pipsqueaks Tier ...

Last post by alanrotoi - November 06, 2025, 05:41:05 PM

It's ok, sometimes we just forget the performance pipsqueaks in 25 years of history. My analysis for some pipsqueaks are only because the result records and not because I saw them race (i.e. FinRok, Seeker1982). Others are just in the limit of the tier I placed (Zapper, Friker).

This is my tier list. Few places could change after a deeper analysis.

I should also explain a bit my impressions. Maybe I'll make alive stream about it if I have the time butblet's write some thoughts.

Every tier has different levels inside, so a tier is mor like a wide row of similarities but not always means same performances.

- the "S" big 4: they are Ayrton and then the rest. Maybe Renato Biker is a bit over Gutix and Duplode but it's hard to analyze only watching their replays, you had to live the moment and I think I wasn't contemporary to Renato's prime for example so I can't be 100% sure about it. What I don't have doubt is that they are over the rest of us.

- Tier A: it mixes some different eras. From a personal point of view I feel my prime was in 2002-2005 (zct16-zct47) period but I haven't seasonal results at zakstunts mainly because I haven't been constant in yearly racing periods. I could maintain a high level in short periods of time, few months then I got burned. Also the opponents and the many other competitions and stunts projectsbwere time demanding. I feel my performance of that era was higher than my 2021-2022 when I won two championships in a row. I had a stronger opponent (Duplode) but I think he didn't fight at full strenght often. Back in 2002 and 2003 I found my "nemesis" in Bonzai Joe who I think he was also at his prime and we had several months in intense fights on tracks.

Also Alain had a great performance back then, in fact he was quiet low in the scoreboards at his beginning but suddenly he was at top almost in every race. Argammon was another pipsqueak with small top shockwaves. You could find a great performance in theor laps but without a season success. All of these pre 2008. Also CTG was a different pipsqueak. Automatic transm. pipsqueak and in the mid of the scoreboard, he found from 2007 that he can reach a top level.

#43

General Chat - ZSC / Re: ZakStunts pipsqueaks Tier ...

Last post by Argammon - November 06, 2025, 04:57:26 PM

I hope that my ranking does not offend anybody, it just reflects my personal opinion. It is also worth pointing out that I did not rank the pipsqueaks within each tier. I focused on Zakstunts RH results. If I had taken NORH into account, Bonzai Joe and Seeker1982 would be in the top tier and Renato would drop a tier.

My ranking is mostly based on Duplode's Historical Folyami ranking (https://scr.stunts.hu/folyami.html) with a few adaptions: You cannot view this attachment.

Notably:

• MiDiaN: According to Folyami, he should be in tier 2. However, I do not feel that a single win is enough to justify that position. If he wins next year's championship, he moves up one tier on my ranking. (PS: I find it a bit strange that MiDiaN is on the same tier as I on Alanrotoi's ranking when our current direct-clash score is 9-1.)
• Alain and Bonzai Joe: Should be on tier 3 according to Folyami. I moved them up one tier because they are champions and because the Folyami ratings are likely not precise for the early years.

Quick edit: I just noticed that I dropped Bismarck into tier D by accident. He does not have enough Zakstunts races to be ranked properly. The same is true for Fdziera.

#44

Chat - Misc / Re: Favorite cars

Last post by Matei - November 06, 2025, 10:56:50 AM

Jaguar F-Type:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mNGNdQWjug

I don't know what car this is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az0bJsuh2aY

Škoda 120 (0:54):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUnKrknBYcc


https://matei.one/invidious.php?v=svHeFdSvPL0

I could fly
back to when we were younger,
when adventures, like cars, we would ride

https://marker.medium.com/the-invention-of-jaywalking-afd48f994c05

This is the story of how, in the 1920s, the auto industry chased people off the streets of America — by waging a brilliant psychological campaign.

They convinced the public that if you got run over by a car, it was your fault.

#45

Chat - Misc / Re: Favorite cars

Last post by CTG - November 06, 2025, 01:17:34 AM

@CTG my Micro Machines Corvette is a slightly more affordable version

Just checked: currently there are two Corvette ZR1 C4 cars in the Hungarian market.

A cabrio (1989) in bad condition, for 3.99 M HUF (~10000 EUR), and a slightly better hardtop (1987) for 6.8 M HUF (~17000 EUR).

For comparison, some new car prices (cheapest trim):

Dacia Sandero - 5.8 M (cheapest new car for ages, Romanian manufacturer, crappy...)
Toyota Yaris hybrid - 8.7 M
Honda Civic e:HEV - 13 M
Tesla Model Y - 19.1 M
BMW X6 - 35.8 M

None of them looks better than the old Corvette.

#46

General Chat - ZSC / Re: ZakStunts pipsqueaks Tier ...

Last post by alanrotoi - November 05, 2025, 05:07:54 PM

I would do it with @Cas and @Chulk to cover a couple of eras and to help with English  .

#47

General Chat - ZSC / Re: ZakStunts pipsqueaks Tier ...

Last post by MiDiaN - November 05, 2025, 03:39:45 PM

This is so cool!
It would be great to have one of the veterans create a video using this tier maker while explaining the reasoning behind their placement.

#48

General Chat - ZSC / Re: ZakStunts pipsqueaks Tier ...

Last post by CTG - November 05, 2025, 09:30:37 AM

It's ok, sometimes we just forget the performance pipsqueaks in 25 years of history. My analysis for some pipsqueaks are only because the result records and not because I saw them race (i.e. FinRok, Seeker1982). Others are just in the limit of the tier I placed (Zapper, Friker).

This is my tier list. Few places could change after a deeper analysis.

Naaaaaah...

Akoss Poo in Tier B? No way. Maybe I have more victories, but I'm pretty sure he's better than me, especially in noRH category. My racing strategy is more opportunistic, I adapt to the public time results and beat reference points - without those hints, I am simply slow. Poo can produce quality RPLs even without knowing the result of X or Y.

#49

General Chat - ZSC / Re: ZakStunts pipsqueaks Tier ...

Last post by alanrotoi - November 05, 2025, 03:30:32 AM

It's ok, sometimes we just forget the performance pipsqueaks in 25 years of history. My analysis for some pipsqueaks are only because the result records and not because I saw them race (i.e. FinRok, Seeker1982). Others are just in the limit of the tier I placed (Zapper, Friker).

This is my tier list. Few places could change after a deeper analysis.

#50

Chat - Misc / Re: Favorite cars

Last post by Spoonboy - November 05, 2025, 12:07:40 AM

@CTG my Micro Machines Corvette is a slightly more affordable version