How, who and when? How come there are two versions of Joe's?!

[Duplode]

Does Broderbund 1.0 comes without Helens.trk?

Indeed. A related observation is how in the ZakStunts Permanent Competition track pack (which, as we now realise, has the 1.0 versions of the other tracks) all the original tracks have October 1990 file dates, except HELENS, which has a December 1990 date.

[alanrotoi]

Ooh! So when a friend gave me a Stunts copy in 1993 it was incomplete (some jaguar files were missing) but it was ok about Helens.trk! Just wow!

[Cas]

Wow!  So Stunts was distributed while it was still being, in a way, developed. It wouldn't be crazy to think there could be slight differences in the code as well, not just the data files, within snapshots of the same version at different times... but surely they made sure that replays were compatible within the same version.

Everything mentioned here is super interesting, but especially, the Bernie's differences call me to also split up the track in R4K like I did for Joe's. Victor Narl had been telling me about this too.

[rallyfiend]

Exactly. The difference is the horizon but the track is exactly the same.

Thanks for clarifying. Not sure why they lost the variety of horizons going from 1.0 to 1.1.

BTW @rallyfiend when we'll see you in the scoreboards of ZakStunts or Race for Kicks?  or a Live Race event maybe?

Not sure; aside from needing to blow off thirty years of cobwebs, I'm flat-chat over the this new year's break, which is when I'd normally get back into gaming.

The set is reunited, thanks again!

You're welcome.

[Cas]

I see that the version of Bernie's I have and the one I uploaded to R4K is the 1.0 version. Even my 1.1 copy has that one. I'll see if I can find it in R4K and ZakStunts version.

Aha!  It looks like the R4K version does have Bernie's 1.1, but ZakStunts 2024 includes Bernie's 1.0.

[alanrotoi]

What a mess