Trust in Zak

[Mingva]

It's about 94% likely that one of those 4 ppl are lying and only 6% likely that all 4 are telling the truth

:shock:

[al il professore]

one:

statistics are lying, used by a bad psychohistorian.

we can measure intelligence to the results a body has in the real world, your result was false, you are not intelligent.

two:

intelligence gets higher home than a single brain, and a single person. telling somebody he is a dumb person, can result in changing the opinion a third person will have of both of them. human intelligence is spread in a bigger level than individuality. And it needs individuals to define her limits. Limits that, constitutively, are shaking everyday.  it is speaking each other. connecting with others intelligence is building a peer to peer network. this forum is building a stunts peer to peer. human standard bodies make plural individuals and those individualities make a human plural sense. the meaning of this common sense is to be found in discussion.

three:

law: in the nature, part of a human population that is intelligent is 5%. the percentage you invoked to define the part of a given population that can be superior in intelligence is 5%. I agree with a law that is published, because that makes me as intelligent as everyone who decides to obey to the same law... this law protects my own intelligence, everyone will gather behind laws. In stunts community, its clear to me that these numbers are respected. 5% of us are not superior minded, because we are not a panel of the worlds population. the choice of us was biased by some common obsessions. Do you understand now why we think each other are very interesting people?

[Argy]

You didn't understand my post at all Alain.
Have you seen the irony? Did I consider the fact that we are not randomly gathered people? Yes but for my example (called a 'model') I left that out in order not to make it more complicated than necessary.

Basically my conclusions are exactly the same you got,and you should have been able to read that between the lines.I have about the same thoughts about human intelligence you had but expressed them in a self-ironic way featuring a lot of

I hope you understand me now

[al il professore]

explaining is the way to gain more overall intelligence for humanity. hiding things? i dont know. it seems not.

[BonzaiJoe]

Of course my IQ comments were not meant literally, they were just to show how pissed off this topic actually made me. It's always easy to say days later that it was just for fun, but fact is you treated Zak like a newspaper treats a politician, which is not nice.
About the IQ thing, I don't consider it particularly unlikely that 4 of us are among the top 5% here... after all that compromises the whole world, and generally those who use computers, use internet, speak english (or something that resembles english ) and play old games are generally more intelligent. Yes, old games make you more intelligent because it shows that you are able to choose what you like instead of just playing what's hip or new or just buying a new game every week to kill the boredom you feel because you're to dumb to think of something to do.

[Mingva]

It's always easy to say days later that it was just for fun, but fact is you treated Zak like a newspaper treats a politician, which is not nice.

:shock: Did I treated him??? Where??? Show me that post and I'll delete it!!!

About fun: should I tell to you why I added " :lol: " in the 1st post of this topic?

P.S. To the dumbest person with the highest IQ in Stunts community, I'm repeating:
I'm respecting zaqrack
And this topic is made not to treat/insult Zak, but to see how participants trust in him. And another time I'm repeating: at the moment, isn't so bad!

[BonzaiJoe]

Ignore this message if you can

[BonzaiJoe]

Treat, not threaten... I will try to calm down.

[al il professore]

some of the things used by bonzaijoe to distinguish the IQs of stunts pipsqueaks from others is funny, and not true.

ok, it seems a natural thing that an oldy player is intelligent, because playing oldies at high level seems to mean:

use a computer,
use internet,
use english,
use old operating systems,
use them well.

ok

but using something only means to understand how it works.

lots of people dont use computers, and are constitutively more intelligent
lots of people dont use internet, and are by this meaning more intelligent
lots of people dont use english, and are WAYS lotsuva more intelligent
lots of people just never used old operating systems and...
well,

Nowadays every people use a computer: they click on a mouse!
nowadays every people use internet: they got wrapped up by media!
nowadays lots of people use english: this language is so easy to know!
nowadays lots of people use old operating systems: they are poor.
well...

this debate on intelligence is polluted by other things this crazy, crazy and post modern world copied from america

there is a world without the use and abuse of old or new computers, no mama didnt download me, and no i wont click on my friends to talk to them in real life.

they say the new media contains all the previous ones: the sound is contained by the letter, the letter by book, the book by computer... but mastering (using) a computer doesnt mean mastering intelligence. media are not the mens intelligence, intelligence is not the mans brain. its somewhere else.

[al il professore]

but the strong hand of the empire wraps us all and only few can open their eyes to the lie that tells computer and english users are meant to feel superior...

"i'm deep inside your children, they ll betray you in my name" zak de la rocha, sleep now in the fire, RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE album

The government functions like a machine, oblivious to reason, oblivious to the pain and suffering they have caused...We've got to Rage Against this Machine.

[JTK]

Oh, kids, come on! Everybody cool down please!

Maybe i can explain what I meant when I wrote

Topics like this one suck!  :evil:

If I read a poll about ME like this I would have felt insulted and would not think of fun at all. May be the better poll would have been: "What do you think about Zak's handling his contest" or something like that, a question which refers to his deeds not his personality. That's all. I think we should close this topic and return to racing, shouldn't we?  

[Mingva]

If I read a poll about ME like this

hmm, it seems JTK don't like critics  

[BonzaiJoe]

Well I'm not saying it's a huge challenge to use a computer, but it seems that generally people who use computers are more intelligent because less intelligent people would be too easily bored from looking at a screen. It takes some strength of imagination and insight to understand what's behind it all. You haven't argued against my old games argument, which I'm of course very pleased with.
?ou are quite right that you don't have to use the "western world"'s medias to be intelligent, but it does go the other way around. If you do, you are slightly intelligent. And again I'm not talking about those who just play Counter Strike or watch porn on the internet.

JTK: Can we please continue? We've already (as always) completely forgotten how this discussion began...

[JTK]

oh - sorry, of course!  :lol:  You have my permission  :wink:

[al il professore]

long sentences... not for ya

i said that about old games in the old OS part.

and i write it clear now:

using a computer is not a proof of intelligence. the real intelligence is not in an apple computer, it was found in the most famous apple picked up by our most famous dumbest ancestor in history on the most famous tree of our common ancient poetry.

cool! off topic again!!!