ZCT44 - Euro Zone

[zaqrack]

ok but this is a competition for all the cars, the indy track has exactly the same value (or at least supposed rto be so)  as the others

[BonzaiJoe]

I refuse to design a track - I'm a pipsqueak, and besides I'm not half as good at it as Zak. I suggest letting JTK design tracks though. He's a track-designer, and it's a pity we can only very rarely race on his tracks.

[Krys TOFF]

I refuse to design a track - I'm a pipsqueak, and besides I'm not half as good at it as Zak. I suggest letting JTK design tracks though. He's a track-designer, and it's a pity we can only very rarely race on his tracks.

Don't worry BJ, Kalpen 2004 is supposed to begin in november. Isn't it JTK ?

[Ezekiel Kemboi]

ok but this is a competition for all the cars, the indy track has exactly the same value (or at least supposed rto be so)  as the others

In the past years with the Indy we always had very hard battles in the top, unlike sometimes when car and track were both shit. Maybe you give as many points for the Indy track as for the others, but in real, it's always the biggest thing to win with the Indy, even if it's not expressed in points.

I think Bonzai Joe is a much better track designer than Zak. He is my 2nd favourite. First is Krys and third is CTG.

[BonzaiJoe]

I have only published three tracks in my lifetime, one competition track, one TDC track and one which was both (Debrecen, Bordeaux, Beijing). They all sucked. And the races? Debrecen was boring in my opinion. Beijing was yet another clear win for Alan Rotoi. Zak, on the other hand, has designed about 40 tracks. While I must say some of them weren't very good, most of them were, and it's harder to be consistent when designing so many tracks. I think Zak's design style should go more in the direction of ZCTs 3, 5, 11, 14, 18, 19, 20, 22, 28, 30, 31, 33, 36, 39, 42. And not be so much like ZCTs 6, 10, 13, 21, 24, 26, 35, 40, 43, 44....

[Ezekiel Kemboi]

I have only published three tracks in my lifetime, one competition track, one TDC track and one which was both (Debrecen, Bordeaux, Beijing). They all sucked. And the races? Debrecen was boring in my opinion. Beijing was yet another clear win for Alan Rotoi. Zak, on the other hand, has designed about 40 tracks. While I must say some of them weren't very good, most of them were, and it's harder to be consistent when designing so many tracks. I think Zak's design style should go more in the direction of ZCTs 3, 5, 11, 14, 18, 19, 20, 22, 28, 30, 31, 33, 36, 39, 42. And not be so much like ZCTs 6, 10, 13, 21, 24, 26, 35, 40, 43, 44....

I liked your Beijing very much, it was one of my top5 favourite IRC/ISA tracks (Kinshasa was clearly the best).
Debrecen was something like what a Ferrari track should be. Wasn't too much paved corners, rather little shortcuts everywhere. I tried to copy that track somehow when I designed ACT 11, but I think I wasn't succeeded... Debrecen was a great track!
Bordeaux was a nice little track, without anything special.

About Zak's tracks: First ZCT 33 was Rotoi's track, ZCT 36 was Argammon's track.

I agree tracks like ZCT 13, 21, 24, and especially 40 and 44 should be completely dismissed. They are too easy, full of banked corners.
For me tracks like ZCT 33, 35, 42 and 43 were very much the same cathegory, all the track is about spinning the car, a lot of spins placed in the track. I must say this despite I had very good results on ZCT 33 and 43 with my worst cars.
Zak also had very much bad dual way tracks like ZCT 11, 12, 23 (this track, LOOOL) and 34. After ZCT 23 he said no more dual way tracks... and we saw this in this January...
But on ZCT 43 we had the most interesting dual way part at Stunts history! It was a very slight difference only between the two ways, well done. ZCT 29 was good I think at this aspect, too.
I saw some good Zak tracks as well. Since I have joined, I liked ZCT 15, 16, 17 (oooh what a good track it was! still my favourite Zak track), 20, 22, 26, 28 (again a fantastic track!). ZCT 30 wasn't bad either. ZCT 38 was very interesting and good, but it was unexplainably short. He should continue this trend, although he seems like losing it.

I rarely can understand why most of the people consider Zak to be a good track designer overall.

[JTK]

@Kryss Toff and BJ: *sigh* I wanted to. But first of all (!!!!) I need a new job! And almost all my online time is spent for that search, sorry!

But plans are made and almost ready but I do not have any time at the moment  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :evil:  :x  :?  :x      

...writes a very, very sad JTK...

[alanrotoi]

I just smile watching how many tracks in zakstunts were since I'm here and I only remember a few.

I guess I raced in 23 tracks. 10 of them I raced to win (14, 15, 16, 17 , 18 , 19, 20, 21, 22 and 23). And the last 10 I raced for the team points.
I think I missed 6 or 7 tracks.

[BonzaiJoe]

I can understand you JTK... I wrote a report about the german economical problems, and it seems you are not the only one who is having a hard time getting a job down there. I hope you are a member of a labor union or something, and that you will soon get a new job!

[Krys TOFF]

I think Bonzai Joe is a much better track designer than Zak. He is my 2nd favourite. First is Krys and third is CTG.

Me ? First ? Thanks a lot.
Which one did you prefer ?

@Kryss Toff and BJ: *sigh* I wanted to. But first of all (!!!!) I need a new job! And almost all my online time is spent for that search, sorry!

Well, I think everyone can understand this reason. We will wait, no problem. And... Good luck finding a job.

[Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister]

Krys: I really liked the first two tracks of IMSA Cup 2!! Everglades were very good, too, and check my votes on your track at TDC, I think I always gave good votes on your tracks.

Btw how do you like the gay party on the ZCT 44 current podium?

[Stunts Oracle]

Stop talking and race weak humans. I rule this world and you will never win.

[Krys TOFF]

Krys: I really liked the first two tracks of IMSA Cup 2!! Everglades were very good, too, and check my votes on your track at TDC, I think I always gave good votes on your tracks.

Btw how do you like the gay party on the ZCT 44 current podium?

Then I hope to see you at IMSA Cup 4 in 2005. :wink:

About Z44, I had no time to race recently, but don't worry I will race again, and improve of course. :wink: Beware Damage Inc. power.

[JTK]

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@BJ: No I'm not! I once was member in a union, but know what? I needed my union three times but then they never did anything for me. On the other hand they sometimes are even worse than any other public instance: Huge, grey, too old fashioned, depending on what once was, not trying new things to raise labour politics... The main boss of the union Ver.Di (Bsirske), where I was member once, tells things in such an old, old fashioned socialistic way, I cannot listen to him without getting ear ache. Each anti-fashist parole has more conten than what that dick headed, very well earning guy. Those were reasons for me to leave the union last year.

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[Akoss Poo a.k.a. Zorromeister]

When will be the final update? Tomorrow night? Sunday? Monday? I'm very excited this time. Zak! What can we expect?