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Scoring for same time

Started by HerrNove, April 12, 2025, 03:43:41 AM

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HerrNove

What happens if two drivers have the same time, are they sorted chronologically or they get the same score? For a while I matched KyLiE's 3rd-place time but the board put me at position #4. The column "Points" gave me 10 points (as for a 3rd place) but the "Season's standings" page assigned me only 9 (and only 1 amateur XP instead of 5).

Same question for the PTB bonus.

Duplode

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As far as the final standings on the scoreboard go, equal times on the scoreboard result in an unbroken tie. Had the race ended a few hours ago with you and KyLiE at 1:17.09, the two of you would share the 3rd place and get 10 points each. There indeed are a few places in the site which don't display such cases as ties; you can think of these as display bugs that we'll get around to eventually. (The XP one, in particular, is mostly harmless, as for the moment XP updates are applied manually, rather than relying on the calculations used for the XP bubbles on the season scoreboard.)

For PTB, though, it's a different matter: to improve your PTB factor, you do need to overtake the time ahead of you rather than just match it, so in that equal times scenario you'd still be regarded as 4th for PTB purposes. In that regard, the PTB system (or at least my implementation thereof) follows the precedent of the old LTB system, in which leading hours were never shared.

HerrNove

Thanks, useful infos! After matching KyLiE's time I considered stopping there to avoid "provoking" him to improve his lap. Good that I get at least some symbolic PTB hours for posting a further improvement over his time.

Duplode

Quote from: HerrNove on April 12, 2025, 03:07:07 PMGood that I get at least some symbolic PTB hours for posting a further improvement over his time.

By now it's adding up to be beyond symbolic  :D (If I'm eyeballing it right, this evening's update should show you having more than 70 h, well on the way to PTB +0.5!)

KyLiE

Quote from: Duplode on April 12, 2025, 05:34:34 AMHad the race ended a few hours ago with you and KyLiE at 1:17.09, the two of you would share the 3rd place and get 10 points each. There indeed are a few places in the site which don't display such cases as ties; you can think of these as display bugs that we'll get around to eventually.

Is the season's standings page one of those places?

Duplode

Quote from: KyLiE on April 15, 2025, 10:15:54 AMIs the season's standings page one of those places?

Not really: points from each race are shown correctly on the season scoreboard including in the case of ties. There's an issue with the display of tiebreakers for the overall season results (see this discussion from last year), but that's a separate thing.

dreadnaut

I'm fixing the display of ties on the scoreboard, coming soon!

Sample from ZCT222:

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